I Found My STOLEN Flying V on Reverb! | The Scam Story
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0:00 - Intro - Check Links In Description!
0:24 - I Found My Stolen Flying V
0:49 - The 2 Big Scams I Fell For
3:22 - The V Story
7:30 - Luthier Story / Project Tales
8:27 - How to Prevent Being a Victim
10:39 - Luthier's Response
12:03 - One Last Hope?
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70s flying V: • These 70s Vs are Magic...
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Stolen Goldtop: • The Tale of a Lost '57...
Stolen Guitar I Bought: • 2005 Gibson Les Paul S...
📚 Description: Sometimes surfing Reverb all-day everyday pays off. After 3 years, I found my stolen Flying V - one of many guitars that have been missing/stolen by the hands of someone claiming to be a Luthier and doing restoration/repair work.
When I first started getting into he guitar business - I got burnt back to back and had to go back to square one just shortly after getting a mortgage on my first house. Luckily, I've never been afraid of hardwork so by working between 3-6 jobs at a time, I was able to rebuild and get to where I am today.
This is the story of how I lost a whole collection of project guitars including this flying V.
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Part 2: th-cam.com/video/IzeDKIJ6o8c/w-d-xo.html
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Snakepit Les Paul: th-cam.com/video/fD1RZEqjPBw/w-d-xo.html
Ohio Guitar Show Walkaround: th-cam.com/video/QGG5OJ5BMuk/w-d-xo.html
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Traveling 335s - th-cam.com/video/ZEvTREV6VM4/w-d-xo.html
Stolen Goldtop: th-cam.com/video/msCnGjDld3E/w-d-xo.html
Stolen Guitar I Bought: th-cam.com/video/DCv3PF_q9xE/w-d-xo.html
Jesus you are a super nice guy!! I would be telling the "Luthier" you WILL be meeting the guy from your state to give him my guitars.People are lucky there are people like you because he would be having more health problems over that kind of money.I'm no tuff guy but that's alot of money.Love your show.
What do you mean hopeful? Give him a deadline to return your property and if he doesn’t then file and show up with police and take them home yourself.
I’ve been too blue to check it out, but I guess I’ll pore over your site (after I find it) and see whether you offer a service to keep an eye open for other people’s stolen guitars? The problem being I haven’t found a single photo of my boosted SG, and it was stolen over a decade ago… if it hasn’t been re-fitted by now to look like it’d never been modified in the first place, if the pickup covers haven’t been replaced and so on, I’d be shocked. I guess it’d also be awesome if someone could help me ID, from a written description, what year my stolen SG may’ve been from… and maybe even help me find an affordable player-grade replacement? You seem so busy, though: probably TH-cam alone is a full-time gig. 😕
Need an update 2020 on the slash snake pit guitar..We need some closure.
You know what they say: "Fool me 15 times; shame on you, fool me 16 times; shame on me."
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Exactly. He's been scammed so many times online that I'm beginning to think it's all made up for his channel's content.
😂😂😂
Mystic Knight. you've read my mind. Can someone be so stupid and expose his idiocy in YT? mmmmmhh...
best one yet
Stop. Giving. This. Guy. Any. More. Chances. Typical scammer behavior, just ask for all your guitars back or threaten lawsuits and police action. It's insane that he still has them. And now with the flying v being sold, if he has anymore of yours left time is of the essence to get them back before they're sold too.
@Satanic Panic Fun and Games
Yes, they would be sorry they ever met me.
lol, the comments to your reply, everyone is a tough guy on the internet.
@@mhsandifer Because the courts would require them to pay your hospital bill.
Most probably already have been sold... and if you did actually get the ass into court you’d get a settlement that he’d never pay in monthly installments of $2.83/month. Just send him a beating...er greeting... instead. Damn typos!
Please keep me updated on your guitars I lost the 57 Les Paul and California and Long Beach it was candy Apple wine burgundy I bought it in 1968
The fact you played into his story for so long while being so naive is pretty remarkable.
Haha haha 😂 yeah
My son, 9 years old ....first reaction .....Dad, what an idiot!
You're raising kids right ! Lol
Why idiot?
@@timofeybarishevskii9188 Lol! your sons right!!
@@timofeybarishevskii9188 yeah why is he an idiot
YaBoiDrake because he gave his guitar collection to this so called luthier
Send one guitar, get it back, if satisfied, send one more. Don't send your whole collection..lol
Right? Trogly is fuckin stupid for that.
He was new to the game. It's alright. He's got those Gibson monitors and that KFC bag back there. He'll make up for the loss with the deals he'll get with those guys.
Dude is a sucker. Wow! I’d never make a video showing how naive I was lol
Matt Perkins Cant be too much of a sucker to build up a collection like he has/had. He’ll get back there too. If he was crying maybe not but he’s accepting and willing to share so others don’t stuff up.
As sooon as he said "I sent 16 of my guitars" or something like that, I felt sorry for him.
I wouldn't be asking him about it. I'd say "my friend's coming to get all of the guitars in whatever condition they're in so have them ready." Have a cop meet him there. Time is your enemy here.
Yes. 100%
Unfortunately, he is showing the World that he does not understand what to do in these situations. And should stop giving private advice on these matters.
@@ryans9029 Just doing this video worked against him by showing the guy that is stealing his guitars that he is weak and does not understand how to act and get his stuff back or have that asshole arrested. He seems to dismiss his guitars in this video like the guy who stole them already won. I don't get it considering he has all the guys info and all those emails for proof. He shoulda made this video as a scare tactic and spoke harsh against this guy to scare him into giving back his guitars!
Not everyone is comfortable with conflict. He’s handling it in his own way. Hopefully some local subs can steer this guy in the right direction. I’d get 3 or 4 buddies and show up heavy for him if I lived close by, but that’s obviously not his style. Sounds like this luthier is a punk.
@@andersun16 ...I agree
@@andersun16 sounds to me like he hasn't evenjust simply requested the guitars back.... He let's the luthier talk him into keeping them longer. He meds to say no, I'm coming to get them today. No conflict. No threats. And I'd the guy does not comply, call the police and report them stolen.
Simple as that. He doesn't have to be the conflict or tough type to stand up and get his thousands of dollars in guitars back from a thief or scam artist.
YOU LET HIM SELL YOUR STOLEN GUITAR? OMFG. Dude, at this point you deserve EVERYTHING.
Lmao my thoughts as well. I would have just messaged the seller and said hey man sorry but that guitar is stolen and I'm reporting it as such so don't be surprised when the cops come. -oh you're out 600$? -im out about 15k so I'll be recouping that, take it up with the person you bought it from sue them.
No way would I be like ah naw it's cool if you sale it. I love losing money.. unless he's got insurance on these and he's taken a claim and now committing insurance fraud? Idk he's kind of a dumb kid
@@jlo7770 He never filed anything. Saying that guitar is his now wouldn't get the guitar back. The guy is clearly a very nice person, but incredible naive.
@@alanbrito7322 100% trogly (Austin) is an idiot. He got ripped off for 16k$ for a fake guitar. I love Austin but he's an idiot.. he's had a ton of guitars stolen from him and he's done nothing... Austin is dumb and not trust worthy because he let's people steal from him... sorry but??? He gets what he gets
"I really want to believe" is sweet music to a scammer's ears! Also the hospital sob story is standard con artistry.
Exactly. This guy needs to man up and start being assertive.
With the number of guitars involved, I would be showing up at the guys house in person.
My thoughts exactly. With a couple of really big friends.
If it was one guitar I'd be showing up.
With a hammer and blow torch.
Yep. This Trogly is far too sweet to solve such problems. He doesn't care to see HIS Flying V being sold. Buy it! He would send them ANOTHER guitar, if the V was sold. Fight back!
To accomplish what exactly? Going to jail for assault isn't really going to help you get your guitars back. This isn't the wild West anymore.
This “luthier” steals 16K worth of guitars from you and you’re “hopeful” one day they’ll return to you? Lmao this guy serious?
Yeah they are gone
@@beefnacos6258 And so does the money he got from it. Most scammers are big spenders. It sure went to the local casino the same evening as he got it.
I believe mr. Trogly has already written this off as a loss/experience! Basically, IF he can get anything back (that he basically has NO PROOF of ownership of) it's a win... but not worth any investment of time /money.
He’s an idiot
Yeah that's very gullable.
troglodyte:
noun
(especially in prehistoric times) a person who lived in a cave.
a hermit.
a person who is regarded as being deliberately ignorant or old-fashioned...
I'll go with the last one...
Your first show is always magical. Whether it’s guitars, guns, or antique car/bike parts, there’s always something special about that first time
There's NO excuse for his behavior. PERIOD. Not an illness, not a death in the family, nothing. People like him make my fng blood boil. Don't fall for those "it happened when I was in the hospital" lines. He's essentially playing the "but you wouldn't hit an old man with glasses, would you?" card...Don't fall for his bs anymore. Act fast, act now.
Maybe he was acting fast and acting now.....when he stole it!😂😂😂😂
I think he has more of an ideology like that in his mind but he doesn’t wanna absolutely trash the guy online in case he’s not lying all of a sudden
his actions are at least... understandable if the story is true.
Lets put it this way, i'm going in hospital, that means i'm possibly dying, and while no one may like it, im looking out for me first and everyone else a far FAR second, if selling that guitar pays for me breathing tomorrow, guess what's getting sold.
You may not like it, and being on the receiving end of it sucks, but its understandable. granted, I assume everyone who dicks you is a scammer and not a sob story because a sob story form most people gets them to lay off the big boy actions.
alidan I agree to a point...that being said if you sell that guitar and pull through when you get out the first thing you are doing is giving the owner of the guitar the money or working towards getting that done.
Well said
You'll never get them back, the guy is a chronic liar.
!? Do you mean pathological liar? Or chronic.
@@danskeebro4365 Pathological. In the heat of the moment, out of anger, I misspoke.
!? Just asking man don't worry.
You have his address. Rent a car, show up on his doorstep, and drive those guitars back home. Stop whining and go get them guitars.
i guess he doesnt mind to be scammed. maybe he made more money by posting this videos. haha
That is a good way to get ventilated. Better to retain a lawyer, prove to the county court that said individual is in obsessional of your personal property and allow the sheriff or police to recover that property with a warrant. Unless the guy is insane, everything will be settled out of court and in a decent fashion.
That’s sounds like a better idea for a video than this
@@kaiserwilhelm1938 The police and courts will almost laugh at you for wanting to get them involved in something so trivial to them. And yes, you're right, trying to retrieve your property yourself might get you shot at, but it might be your only option.
Better off just not sending anyone your expensive equipment?
@@devilsoffspring5519 Yeah, it's unfortunate but the police probably won't get involved unless you know someone, and they would probably advise you to sue the guy since you have contracts for the work and proof. So then the guy will just ignore the resulting civil suit and you're out the lawyers fee and time spend pursuing a civil case that the police will also then decline to enforce.
I work on fraud cases and with victims. My business recovers property for victims that have their property in possession of someone who does not own it. Possession is not ownership.
We do not use violence, we press charges and take actions under court ordered judgments. This includes all costs: legal, investigative, and, if cash, interest... we are not a collection agency, we are victims advocates who believe each time a con walks successfully away from a PLANNED/DELIBERATE criminal action, everyone suffers... and BTW, why aren't you insured?
If you continue to give this con time, hoping there is some honesty here, you will run out of time with statutes that allow you to press charges in civil courts. If you have passed statute limits, you can plead equitable tolling: that you did not perceive any crime until recently, especially if you can prove some level of diligence... SUE HIM NOW!!! Press charges asap in civil court, let law enforcement know what is happening, especially if this is crossing state lines... the size of this crime warrants action, how many other victims do you think this guy has screwed? Time for answers... its up to each of us to keep the sandbox clean.
If you look at the comment Megaman X made, further up the page, it seems this "luthier" is involved with smuggling of endangered species from Belize. And Trogly is aware of that. That's why he's not getting the law involved.
Yeesh, I'd love to be able to shrug off someone stealing SIXTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS from me.
bigguscurlyus seriously...
He would turn up missing. Bet that.
@@docd-monik4380 If he turns up how can he be missing?
It's like saying "he would wake up dead".....
Dude - I'm an awesome luthier... one of the best... how about you send me a half-dozen extremely expensive guitars? I promise I'm totally legit.
Nah man I'm even more legit, send em my way
greedy butts!! i am good!! so just send me 3! that will pay rent for ayear!!
Sounds good
I’m even better. I’m too legit. Too legit to quit.
You just dont understand how legit I am. When I do something bad, I call the police to arrest them.
opened the dictionary today, looked up ,,naivety'' found a picture of this dude in an air guitar pose.
Hahahahahaha
So you’ve shipped this guy your guitars? And you haven’t just driven to his address and taken reinforcements with you?
Grow a spine man.
i'm a looner, only got 2 friends. one is called Smith...
cramp guessing the other is Wesson
That's stupid advice. If he does that he's 100% guaranteed to end up in a much worse situation with the law.
Right..And the police will be happy with that move
Or file a civil suit( you had a real contract) and get a court order. Its not so costly and will get the stuff back.
This is what happens when you have more money than sense.
Except you have to have some sense to get “more money” in the first place. Often there are calculated risks to get money, you have to be prepared to take losses and learn from them. As they say success is often achieved at the cost of many failures. In the process you also gain resilience and objectivity, that’s make you a happier more balanced individual. A life lived!
@@michaeldahm214 A calculated risk would be to send 1 guitar to said stranger, then evaluate the quality of work upon return. If the work is good and the person is reliable, send over the other guitars.
This genius sent multiple guitars across the country to some random dude and is then surprised to find them being sold off lol.
If that's how you define living life... good to luck to you!
Jordan I don’t disagree. It is a mistake to send a bunch of guitars to some “random guy”. The “living your life” bit referred to the willingness to accept your mistake without losing it and becoming overwhelmed with negativity and making your self totally miserable. Instead see if you can objectively try and resolve the issue and possibly get a positive result
Lmao so true
michael Dahm unless your born or marry into wealth
I once dropped a large rock on my foot, breaking all of my toes in the process. It hurt so much, so much so, I decided to do it again just in case I was wrong. 16 times I did it, and guess what..... IT STILL HURT!!
@Barry Goldwater Yeh still hurts
did u try again tho
@@frogwithsocks5408 Meh..
Not to accuse of anything. But seems like that luthier guy has something really really against Trogly not to push to extreme recovery measures. Hmmmmmm this world is one big wild wild west...
"I had a blast at the guitar show, I was buy, trading, and selling." I bet he ended up handing his wallet over to two ten year olds who declared they were the guitar show wallet inspectors.
He prolly gave his credit card info for the entrance free 💀
hahahahaha!
Dude you are one of the most trusting kind and relaxed people Ive ever seen and I’m sad that we live in a world where I have to say that you’re trusting “to a fault”. That shouldn’t be a fault but in this increasingly immoral world it sadly is. I can only hope and pray that you get far more lucky breaks than the number of crooks you encounter. Bless you man.
This guy epitomises the saying "more money than sense."
+100
Probably could agree
Fintan no Simp for this wimp
The old saying rings very true: a fool and his money are easily parted
I think he needs to be punched more than the guy that has the guitars
I wish I could afford to get scammed out of like $30,000- in guitars alone- and still be as happy and upbeat as this guy.
You wish to be a gullible victim?
@@MrBikboi AGREED 👍
@@MrBikboi No, he wants to be rich enough to lose that kind of money without going bankrupt.
It’s theater. In real life, many actors are miserable. When the camera goes on at any level, the actor emerges. Even on TH-cam
The problem with selling online is you get scammed. Just stick with fb marketplace and sell local. f*k selling online.
3:46 Today I learned my dads guitar is worth $2850
Now now...leave it where it is😉
Too bad he paid 4k for it.
Oh man Austin! That’s a crazy story! I hope you get these guitars back! What some people will not do.. the universe has a strange way of bringing things back around! thanks for the best guitar info show ever! I hope to do business with you someday! Keep up the fantastic work Trogly!!
There is no excuse for that guy to go ***months*** without contacting you while possessing tens of thousands of dollars worth of your property. Period. Just disgusting that he'd do that and then try to play this sickness card. If he truly has some bizarre illness that apparently he isn't allowed to let you in on then that might prevent work on the guitars, but there's no way it would make him unable to type a quick text message. I would have gotten police involved already at this point, as he clearly (to me) hoped you wouldn't notice this little stunt.
That guitar aint worth that much money kid
Lapis Eye not just that Flying V. He has 10 others or so that we know about.
There isn't even any consistency in the lies he is being told. I'm unclear why his friend had the guitars and if he was or was not trying to sell them on his behalf. It doesn't make sense anyway you don't sell someones property to try to recoup some of the money, surely you just return their property and apologise?
Does anyone believe any of this shit? If you really had those guitars and wanted custom work would you ship or visit someone local? B is your answer.
@@logantylerb.5299 More telling, right?
Literally just handing your lunch money over to the bully and thinking "OH SHUCKS! I Wasn't that hungry anyway. He'll pay me back its okay! Here have my allowance too. HEHEH"
Cringe
@@psyche5893 found the easily scammed person
Bro I’ve been going through your channel and you have the best guitar stories. Thankyou for sharing
If You have a shipping address for this guy and he has that much property of yours, I feel like a private investigator or a lawyer should be involved to go there and see what he has. You're too nice for your own good.
When I was 18 someone broke in my house and stole my guitar. I couple weeks later I spotted it in the back seat of a car outside a coffee shop. I broke the window out and took it back and also stole his laptop and gold clubs. He burned the serial number off the guitar with a lighter.
Metal
You should have slashed his tires for good measure as well
Good
POWER MOVE!!
Things you unfortunately cannot do anymore in these times, though with the whole virus confusion out I was finally able to get my dirtbike back from a guy who stole it about 8 months ago, there were cameras on some houses but I went out during the night and took back my bike, it had been spray painted over my beautiful cover and I had to slowly peel off the ugly metallic blue paint. Still haven't found my stolen Ibanez SR800 bass though
I know everyone's been saying this already, but definitely get police involved and try to get your guitars back NOW. This whole hospital story just sounds like BS to buy him time to cover his tracks as he sells your guitars.
I'm not gonna throw any rocks at you but offer my condolences for your loss. Treat your guitars like you would treat your wife, don't loan her out, don't send her anywhere alone, and don't trust anyone with her. Keep 'em coming!
Yea that's been my motto for many years! I never understood the get your guitar "beat up" for character. I treasure my wife, I wouldn't beat her up and tell the cops it's good for her appearance and character. The older my guitars get, the more I take of them. The newer guitars, get the "baby" treatment from the start. Good post!
I'm going to take an educated guess re: luthier. This sounds like the actions of an functioning addict, specifically a chronic relapser. So whatever he uses, he's not always using. Probably goes on a run for several months, then he goes to detox, gets out and is clean for a period of time before he inevitably relapses.
Id say that early on in your relationship with him you managed to catch him between relapses. While he's clean, he's able to focus on things, he clearly knows what he's doing when he's able to focus on the work.
Unfortunately it's always just a matter of time. If you only sent him 1 or 2 guitar at a time it's possible you may have never had a problem with him, but when you get past the dozen mark, well.....
If this is the case luckily the "functioning" part of functioning addict is that he has the resources so that he's not selling other people's things to pay for it. If I'm right this may actually be a good thing. So some point as long as he still has your things, you'll probably get them back.
The red flag is the constantly changing cell phone number. They keep changing because he doesn't pay the bill and his service is cut off. If more than a month or so goes by, when he is able to turn it back on the number he had has been given to someone else. The periods between hearing from him it's likely he may be selling or pawning his tools. Ive been repairing guitars for 15 years, and building and servicing amps for a few years less. I don't really consider myself a luthier though. I have built some over the years, but I only the limits of my skills and talent. If I were to have so sell my oscilloscope for example, when I would have to buy a new one, the cheapest, and I mean CHEAPEST as in it doesn't look like much more then a multi reader, is $600. The one that I use I bought used for close to 3 times that. I can imagine trying to dig myself out of a situation where I wasn't even able to keep my phone on, that there are probably many things that would have to be paid.
I could be wrong and he might just be the most easily distracted man in the world.
Definite possibility but not everyone who does drugs, even hard drugs, do such things. I've known all sorts of addicts, people you would never ever suspect, who are quite successful through their own hardwork.
I was an addict in my youth, along with my husband who I've been with 20 years. We had addictions to all sorts of drugs, we liked everything really. We had been told that we were some of the most functioning addicts people had ever seen but we didn't ever do anything illegal to get anything and always worked. We've never been fired ever and held down the same job for years on end.
When I was ready to quit, it was hard, but I did it completely on my own. Some people can't do that but some can. I've never been arrested. I don't and never looked like a crackhead. I did my best to take care of myself.
Now if I was ever up for 2 days straight, yeah I probably looked a but rough, but overall I've always been told by people that they were shocked at how old I was. Even when I was 35 people really believed I was early 20s. I've been asked out by young college guys and their jaw literally dropped to find out I was basically old enough to be their mother.
Now that I'm basically 40 I have aged the most in one year than I did in several but still not badly. I still don't even use makeup beyond lip gloss so obviously it's not that bad.
I haven't used any drugs, except shrooms in many years. I won't ever give up those, and it's a rare occurrence anyway. But we are successful and well off enough now with a family despite all the things we had trouble with once.
I can turn down any opiate, even right in front of me. I had my wisdom teeth pulled several years ago and I accepted the norcos out of fear of dry socket, but only took 1 the first night and threw the other 14 away once healed and on the last 2 wisdom teeth I just turned down the painkillers. I'm that much beyond it at this point.
I'm also around alchohol constantly but haven't drank in many many years. Uppers could be difficult but I avoid those and any talk about them.
Watching movies like Goodfellas still twists my stomach up and I usually have to run to the toilet. That's just seeing use on tv.
But I haven't touched any in a decade now.
I haven't had mdma since a good 10 yrs so I also avoid that but mostly because the last few times it wasn't real mdma. They are like shrooms for me. Not an addiction. If someone gave me one as good as back in the day, I'd accept sure, but would take responsibly, saving it for a weekend and kids at a friend's house.
But I don't expect to ever see the real stuff again, not like it was in the 90s. I think they make it different now and I was done trying it again many years ago.
Sorry to ramble, I just wanted to really make the point that crappy people do crappy things. I hate when people blame terrible behavior on drug usage and not themselves.
Something like PCP(the one drug I've never tried), might make someone do something truly out of their control, but most drugs the person is still in enough control to know right from wrong, especially when talking about something particularly heinous.
@@beccak1932 totally concur. I used IV heroin for six years and I've never stolen from anybody and did two STEM degrees under the influence.
@@beccak1932 i was speaking from personal experience myself, it's the reason I'm willing to wager that it's drugs. Booze doesn't manifest itself like this. Any long term such addict, especially for are amor l able to remain "functioning," indefinitely; it's just no possible unless for some reason you're independently wealthy (though i know quite a few people that come from money, and even they can't maintain for too long).
It seems this story could be used as a hypothetical story used in those "how to tell if a friend or family member is an addict," it literally contains almost every red flag there is. If there's one thing that all junkies share, it's that when things get desperate (which can main anything from not being able to cop, to robbing liqueur stores) they'll take advantage of any opportunity they can.
With this story, i can completely believe that the guy at least intended to act in good faith, it most likely wasn't a case of him fully intending on ripping Trogly's off. He probably fully intended to do what he said he was going, unfortunately for the Trogly's, it was a matter of bad timing.
Everything about this story I've heard and seem many times before. Inconsistent and irregular productivity: at first everything went down as it should have. Then the ghosting, where he just falls off the face of the earth. The constantly changing phone number is a BIG sign, it's something that places like potential employers, companies, skip tracing, background checks, etc. If someone has changed their phone number more than 2 or 3 times in a decade, it's a concern because with the exception of maybe being stalked, there's not a lot of reasons to change your number unless you have no choice.
The "medical issues" is another ubiquitous story addict give. Lastly the way he disappears only to pop his head out every once in a while is why im confident that not only is the idea that he has a drug problem, but it's one that is in q constant cycle of being clean then relapsing.
If this story had 1 or 2 of these things alone, while it's still likely to be drugs, it's possible there's another cause. ALL of them though? Id have to hear a really convincing story as to how it could be anything else.
It's possible he actually has the guitars, with the exception of the Flying V. He might be selling or putting his tools in hawk to support his habits, and he can't actually do the work until he gets them back.
I agree 100%. Probably why only some guitars have been sold once he gets desperate. I'm sure he convinces himself once he gets clean he will make it all right. I've been there.
I had my home broken into and lost some of my gear. Good thing I made a three-ring binder that had pictures, serial numbers and receipts of all my guitars, amps, multitrack recorder, stompboxes, mics, etc. The police called me back a few days later after I gave them my notebook from reporting the break-in. They located most of my gear and wanted to pick me up to identify it.
You should have seen the manager of the pawnshop face as he turned over my property. Oh, he was clearly upset that he lost money. Probably because either he or one of his employees were incompetent for buying my gear from the thief. They didn't 'have' a copy of the thief's I.D/Licences when the bought my gear. So they ended up being the ones out of money and no gear.
The kicker is the pawnshop was right in my neighborhood, only a quarter-mile from my house. I've gone in that pawnshop from time to time to see if they have any gear worth buying. So imagine what my surprise would have been if I never kept a record of my gear, walked in the shop and saw my guitars hanging on the walls, and couldn't do a damn thing to get them back without proof of ownership.
@123645445 I believe it is a federal law for pawn shops to take I.D.s. They are definitely fences of stolen property and the A.G. / District Attorney should be coming down on them.
@Comrade Kong We are both strangers to one another therefore, not entitled to believe what a stranger has posted. But I'll say this, just because businesses share the same common laws to operate from state to state, doesn't mean best practices is always 'practiced'. People will always find ways to circumvent laws. Perhaps the thieves had a fake ID, I don't know, I wasn't there when the shop purchased my gear from the thieves. Back in 2005 pawnshops in Maryland did not require fingerprints (and still don't). Also, I never got all of my stolen property back, what I got back I was extremely grateful for and wasn't going to look a gift horse in the mouth by wondering why the detective didn't take my property to the police station. Perhaps he didn't need to do it since he had my notebook. He allowed me to keep my property after I identified it right there in the shop, and he had all the proof that the gear was mine in my notebook. I have no idea if the police ever caught the burglars, I moved not too long after that once I found out that the community was going through a spike in crime. But if you will take one word of truth from me? Log serial numbers and take pictures of your property.
@@darbywing2 I am a licensed Texas Pawnbroker. Pawn Shops are licensed at the state level, not the federal level. The only thing we do that's federally sanctioned is firearm transactions and we do get DL/ID information on those along with photocopies. However, on just regular pawns/sales, there is no requirement to collect a copy of the ID, though we are required to record the ID number on the pawn/sales ticket. Some pawnshops have begun to utilize point of sale photo capture but those are usually the higher end pawnshops. It sounds like this may be a mom and pop pawnshop.
That is a very interesting story. Thanks for sharing.
Today’s lesson boys and girls: don’t trust anyone except your local shops. Also how are you so collectively calm about this? I’d be infuriated. The guy is feeding you BS excuses which is unacceptable behavior by anyone. He’s most likely stalling so he can sell or trade them locally. Just file a police report, you should have no issues getting back what’s rightfully yours.
*Infuriated
*infiltrated
*inflammable
*inuit
"How are you so collectively calm"
More money than sense. Could have donated them to some kids instead. I'd work to retrieve it based on that fact alone. Instead of gifting it to some criminal without putting up a fight.
I’m glad you got your guitars back Trogly. I’ve had 3 purchases on Reverb that have gone off without a hitch. But I have to say. Your stories scare the shit out of me. My collection is just about complete anyway. Thanks for sharing your invaluable insights, and keeping the rest of us out of trouble. Your daily viewer.
You're a breath of fresh air to us guitarists! Thank you for all your hard work and informative videos. I've learned so much more about guitars even though I don't buy and sell. Wealth of knowledge to be had on this channel!
Breath of fresh air to scammers and con artists too. Doesn't even call police when he's got them caught in a web of lies.
Something doesn't add up here. You have $16,000 in merchandise probably stolen from you and you don't seem interested in calling the police. Yet you're all goofy and giddy about finding one of your stolen guitars for sale online. That's a very curious attitude. One is left to wonder why you don't want the police involved. Your story simply doesn't make sense.
You have a point. But also maybe he's not freaking out for the sake of the video.
Probably wipes his ass with money.
He would rather send them off than learn to fix them himself. He has the money to waste.
he said learn from him!! take pics of everything and all nubers so you canmake a report!!
There may also be legal processes in play that it wouldn't be helpful for him to comment on in a public forum.
I think you're being naive. The luthier is a thief and his hospital story is no excuse.
If he can get a guy to store them then he can get someone to send them back to you.
THIS!
The whole obsession over guitars with specific "rare" original factory paintjobs is naive, a naive fetish. The paintjob is the fastest & (often) cheapest part of the build, but it always puts stars in people's eyes quicker than anything else.
I love this story!!!!! Only because of what we're learning here . TY Austin!!!
You crack me up man lol love the channel. Great information and personality. I would definitely hang out with Mr. Trogly
That's a same man, him doing that to you, if he truly was having all these medical issues he should have contacted you to at least send the guitars back to you. If it does not work out with the guy coming up this weekend, you know I only live about 2 hours from Nashville, if there is anything I can do to help you, message me and let me know. I am glad you at least found the V but here is something that you should suggest to Reverb, Reverb should REQUIRE that the serial number be put in the title of the listing. This way people who have had stolen equipment could just type in the serial number and do a search and if it pops up and is the missing instrument, well then you take the next steps to getting it back! There is nothing for Reverb to have to do aside from updating their listings term of service so why wouldn't they do it?
Great idea for reverb and bring a gun
My grandfather always said " Never trust anything with 4 legs and trust anything with 2 legs even less "
Nice.
But spiders... they are trustworthy. :-D
He must’ve had a shitty dog then
“Never trust anyone who bleeds for five days and doesn’t die.” - Angry old woman hater. 😆
A dog will look at you when it bites, but a human will happily stab you in the back.
-my grandpa.
Man I dig your energy. Calm and chill. I’d be ragging man. Positive vibrations to you.
You are so right about private luthiers. Had one who worked on my guitars who tripled the repair cost. Then he had the gall to suggest that I just give him a guitar of mine that he had wanted for years. A total scam on his part.
You gave a guy 13 guitars to hold at once? Even if he wasn't a crook, what if he had died or something?
wait so... you're trusting a "very generous supporter of the show" to bring these guitars back up to you? Like... another random internet person? Have you learned nothing? Really hope I missed something and its your dad or someone you can actually trust. Otherwise I'm not sure that you deserve to get these guitars back, lol.
Good job buddy this was cool, it made me remember parts I'd forgotten
I remember you talking about this years ago. Glad you finally found this guitar.
time for the police to get involved trog
Time for that was before making this video.
Me and 2A.
You were trusting because you simply don’t think like a thief. I’ve been burned because I couldn’t imagine doing such a thing. It’s kind of a sad awakening, realizing that people can do such terrible things. Keep the faith. There are still a lot of good people out there. Thanks for sharing.
Isnt that the truth. I would never think of doing that to someone. I dont understand people like that at all.
@@GreatWhiteLionSnake And so blatant too. Putting the guitar up on Reverb hoping nobody would notice? Cannot stand thieves. Cost me my '66 (CBS transtional) Sunburst Strat and original case. 🇭🇲😡
@Blue - THIS!! What you said exactly. Most criminals are far from being genius masterminds - quite the contrary, they’re sub-moronic sociopaths who only barely manage to pull off their scams because most of us can’t fathom anyone behaving so reprehensibly in the first place! You put it perfectly, thank you.
@Kevin Hall - Sheesh, I feel for you. Stolen ‘60s (maybe 1970) SG Standard here. 😢 The missing guitar feels like an empty space in your chest, doesn’t it?
@@danopticon Very much. Bought in '68 stolen mid 70's. Was in immaculate condition and had recently been worked on by a very well known luthier. Sickening as "allegedly" it went through a guitar shop for a pittance. Pretending to be a buyer, looked at a few Strats, mentioned Hendrix had a "sunburst" and "do you stock any?" Now you would probably answer "No but can try order one" or something but the dramatic change of attitude was a dead giveaway. Two thieves as it turned out. Sorry for rant 😧🙁
My heart breaks thinking about this but bro never get in that deep with anyone ever.. Even if its not a scam, no one needs that much of your stuff at a time. I sooo hope you can recover your guitars. Thanks for sharing this and hopefully saving someone else from what youre going through..
you seem so sincere and nice. subscribed! - and I don´t even play guitar, i play bass. brightened my mood for sure. thank you
The more this video goes on, the worse you look.
Seriously. This dude is a clown
@@BoxOfCurryos which dude
This was early in his career he was a newbie.
Besides everyone makes mistakes
It's gotta be fake, right? NO ONE ANYWHERE is this stupid. And instead of calling the police he makes a video? Nothing adds up.
bashpr0mpt Exactly.
Stop trusting him. You know that he sold one of your guitars without your knowledge. That alone should be enough of a red flag for you. He'll have no problem doing it again. Just get your guitars back.
Always enjoy your informed insights and adventures...keep it coming..
First time I finally liked, commented, and subscribed. Good luck
I cringed throught this video. How can anyone be this naive.
He is playing into it to get more comments and traffic from people that say " WHY U SOH STUPITD?!!!1?''''
Bruh he was a newbie he didn't know better
This isn't naive, naive is getting scammed by buying a shit guitar from AliExpress (which is what those blanks were, they were 10-15x kit guitars in bulk purchase orders for a few hundred bucks. I see them all the time (I make instruments, not guitars though, they're too common and worthless, a good quality hand made custom guitar can't compete with big brands made in China and 'finished' in not-China). The dude had no photos of him making anything, just buying parts.
@@bashkillszombies not true. Nothing about your sentence makes any sense…
Austin.....he sold your guitars after he restored them.
Yup, that's what I was thinking too. NEVER give your stuff to someone to restore without getting the necessary paperwork/contracts to have the work done. That's standard business practice!
Nope the V has not been restored, look at the listing, total disaster
The V is worth more unrestored being a Ronnie Hughes played guitar.
So I kinda barley just started watching your channel but I really do love it, and I was wondering if you could do a review on the new Steve lacy fender strat
I like the new set up plus we finally get to see yr face.
"don't trust anyone on the internet...." u can't even trust someone who's had an established brick & mortar business. i had an acquaintance who owned a photography business for many yrs. when 911 happened & the economy tanked, he stole my camera gear, money, etc. all while i was helping him pack up to move back to CA.
@Comrade Kong for comedy
He's stringing you along, mate - don't fall for his crybaby stories, sic the cops onto him now. That's your property, not his.
Possession is 9/10 of the law. This guy will never see his shit again.
@@boofert.washington2499 you know that's not a literal statement right?
President Ronald Reagan once said, "Trust and verify" W.C. fields said, "There's a sucker born every minute". You've obviously learned an expensive lesson, and your spirit tells me you live by the golden rule' unfortunately in every way possible, mankind is wicked. There is an abundance of wolf's in sheep's clothing waiting to to deceive. Along life's journey you'll encounter more disposable crooks. Keep your guard up with a smile. I truly appreciate your show and look forward to the brilliance you share. I've made mistakes and poor decisions. I'm now 63 and watching my adult children and grandchildren make some of the same mistakes I made. You Rock Austin. I look forward to every episode. You continue to convince me to hold onto my collection of vintage Gibson's and fenders. I've been collecting since 13 years old. (Kurtiss from Costa Mesa CA.)
Thank you for sharing your experiences. It has been very helpful to me and I’m sure it will be to others.
Yep, I will not send $16,000 worth of guitars to a complete stranger now, which I was planning on doing tomorrow! This video taught me a valuable lesson.
As PT Barnum famously said, "there's one born every minute"
And, apparently, each one has a TH-cam channel.
It's like he has the ability to make both great and horrible decisions simultaneously... incredible!
Always awesome to see a fellow middle Tennessean, maybe I'll catch you in downtown Franklin snatching up some Kilwins one day! Take care brother
I certainly hope you get your guitars back. Especially the V. I used to have a sunburst one just like it, new in 1990. I made the bad mistake of having a Kahler trem professionally installed and soon after realized that i made a bad decision. About 5 or 6 years later i traded in the V for an Epiphone Dot 335, took a bath on it. Now that guitar is modded to the max and I am happy. In 2007 i bought a new V in white and its still like new today. So we live and learn...😂
No more Mr. nice guy. If your V changed hands, guaranteed others have also. Time to demand!
Dude, I totally feel your pain. When I was 10-11 yrs old I bought a super rare card in a pack of baseball cards that was worth $500. I wanted to keep it safe so I put it inside of one of my speakers to my stereo. The only one who knew where I put it was my brother, only because he walked in & saw me putting it back together. 1 week later it was gone. He denies it to this day. It sucks when someone steals from you.
thats fucking brutal dude. Damn
Damn, your brother stole from you, not to disparage your brother but was or is on drugs.
I had a similar thing happen with my brother because he stole a family heirloom from our families house, so I haven't spoken to him since and probably never will. Some people might think that's harsh, but think about it -- would you do that to YOUR sibling, and if so, then what would that say how you feel about them? It's basically like telling someone that you don't give a shit about them. It's funny too because he had done various smaller irritating and/or hurtful things all my life such as hitting on my girlfriend and shit like that, and my mother always said to me "Oh, he loves you, these feelings are just your imagination" , and then he pulled that stunt of stealing the family er-loom from our house and that was like the BIG last straw, and just confirmed what I'd been feeling all my life. He's been fairly successful in business, but he's crapped on people and most who work with him seem to not work with him again, and I think it's because he always screws people even if it's just for a bit, like as an example, we co-wrote a song long ago which did get used on TV (which is the only reason I found out about this), but it turns out when he registered it with ASCAP,, he put the songwriting credits as 75% in his name and 25% in mine even though it was a 50/50% endeavor. So that's the kind of shit he's done to people all his life. He's also been married three times and it's of course it's always the woman's fault. Yeah right -- whatever... brother.
When I first started watching your show, I never saw your face, but every now and again I would think you showed it by accident. But after watching many more of your videos, I realized you chose to minimize your facial exposure in order the accentuate the guitars. Love the channel. Unfortunately, your guitars for sale are currently out of my league - but very informative. For now, some of your sponsors are more in my range and who knows what the future brings.
I know the feeling have a guitar of yours stolen. I had a Toni Iommi Gibson Sg stolen from me years back. Glad that you found yours at least.
Why would you send him so many guitars before one was done
Probably due to the thought of faster turnaround to get them all done.
He’s brain dead?
Because he's an idiot with more money than sense.
The stealing and the scamming and the “luthier” aside - who in their right mind would buy a Slash “snakepit”? And for how much?
HaveMercyMissPercy I don’t know. I certainly wouldn’t want even a real one for 600 bucks. Plain silly.
Living in Youngstown ohio.i have seen the godz several times.soon as you said the name I knew.great band
You sound sooo mellow and relaxed after you get burned. I would probably drive to his house after all these shenanigans and get the guitars myself.
Dude,,you should do voice overs. Hell of a voice. Makes me feel relaxed to hear you conversate
*SIMPLE TIP:* I never deal with someone I cannot reach physically to break his jaws if he scammed me.
great tip
@@StIdes-wb3ir 😉👍
*Pro Tip*
@@Nathan_Coley looool
Wow you're hard
While I was lived overseas in Japan for 12 years, thieves stole from my storage unit (in the United States) one of my Marshall amps, my '83 Start, my Heritage Gold Top Les Paul, my Antares V (one of the lawsuit Vs), my Zoom MRS-802 (unit, they didn't take the software or power supply) and some other things that had sentimental value. A few moths later some people broke into my house & stole my classical guitar & my Martin Backpacker.
I hate thieves! My feeling is: death to thieves! The fewer thieves we have in the world the better societies will be. (That applies to thieves of all economic classes, such as white collar/Wall Street thieves.)
Man is diseased, thiefs are just one facet of it😒
Yours were stolen, the brilliant guy making the video gave his guitars away. What a sucker.
Bro u had stuff worth some good money
@@JR-ke9lm yeah. It’s not about the money, though.
The ‘83 Strat was my second electric guitar. I traded in my first (a Gibson Challenger II) for it.
The Gold Top was given to me, as a gift, by a good friend before he returned to Japan, after college.
@@ThrashRebel damn man that sucks :( I’m 18 rn I just bought my first strat
I had a 1989 Gibson les Paul custom cherry sunburst stollen back in 2008. It was beautiful. Even had the flip up string winding tuning knobs. Haven’t seen it since.
Wow. What a story. A friend of mine in the early 80's found his stolen bass in a major retail music store and came back with the police. Wasn't necessarily the store's fault. They got caught in the middle. But in that same store his brother bought an American made strat and took it apart and it was made from third party parts. Was not a Fender American strat.
I once had my Washburn Harvest acoustic guitar stolen from a gig. By a HUGE stroke of luck, my bass player was talking about it at work and one of his workmates happened to overhear him. He told him that he knew who had it because he heard two guys talking about it at a party the previous weekend. This workmate (who just happened to be a hardcore bikie) paid the people a 'visit' and hey presto! Guitar back!
This is ridiculous - Don't understand why you do not go get your guitars in person?! I'd say $15-$16,000 worth of property is worth a trip ...to anywhere in USA - wth, man? ...seriously, if you don't bother then obviously you do not deserve what's been stolen from you.
Its obvious he's rich
His mother/wife won't let him go.
He's autistic? I mean seriously, as a trust fund kid he could even hire a lawyer to do this all for him.
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For $16,000 he could of gotten slash to sell him a tour used Les Paul.
God bless you my dude. May eternal blessings be with your soul. What you are doing is ultimately very risky for your livelihood within this niche, but it is greatly helping anyone who has an interest in breaking into it. Love.
0:13 Man just knicked the Mark Felton intro.
That is a scared sound my friend.
That guy got me my history GCSE.
That science guy too, ohh man.
Wow. I am amazed at how calm and laid back you are about this situation! - Also, I like the new format where we can see a face with the voice. It makes it much more personal. That is something I struggle with on my channel, is that I LOVE making the videos, but I wish I didnt have to be in them haha
I would just recommend local luthiers - always good to support local businesses in your area
I don't even trust them lol
@@sahamal_savu ok
ciúnas gan uaigneas atleast they can’t steal them
@@sahamal_savu work with whom you trust. I like local guys because they keep a reputation on the streets so it's easy to know which are good
@@JoseHenrique-xg1lp Also they are close so its easy to chase up - physical stores also have a lot more accountability when it comes to the law then sending online
Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice… you’re too pure of heart my guy.
Serious question sir. Having grown up in Southfield MI and living in Seattle now. I really miss Big Boy’s. There’s one in LA but it’s not the same as the Midwest.”special sauce” is tartar sauce as opposed to the 1000. Island derivative.
Keep up the great work and if you’re ever out this way I’d be happy to introduce you to my friend jay who own emerald city guitars. He’s got 5 bursts in store as well as a ton of amps. Acoustics (I know. Not your bag) as well as a by appointment retail location (thanks covid).
Dude, how rich are you? Secondly, where is your common sense? Theft is theft! I write down and/or register the serial number of any instrument I own. I’ve never had anyone steal anything of mine because I researched my luthier and piano tuner more carefully than you apparently did. I found and talked to their other customers first. If something were to be stolen/absconded with, I have the serial number. Call the police. I can’t afford to lose 1 instrument let alone all the ones you’ve evidently lost.
Lawyer, not police. Keep in mind if he has the name and addy of the 'luthier' there should be no issue filing some sort of civil case, on top of reporting the crime.
very generous of you to share your misfortune to help others. I hope you are rewarded with the return of your guitars. love 💘 the channel.
I enjoy your videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and stories with us,
I had a V about 15 years ago. It was the best playing and sounding guitar I ever played. It was the guitar made for my hands, style, everything! I had a buddy that had painted a couple guitars for me and asked him to paint it alpine white. I stripped it of all the hardware and pickups and gave it to him. He sold it for drugs and I never saw it again. I have all the parts for it and have been looking for a decent project so I can put it back together but no luck.
We’re in for a good video boys!
bro i'm at 10HP please give me a sandvich
23 Heathrow “I gotchu bro” I say, as I launch a sandvich off the map
@@madiserket2 dont worry boys, because the medic is here to save the day *pockets one person the entire match*
Like others have said - and what I have found personally - the most typical scammer stories are family emergencies and hospital stays, and stringing along these stories until you give up.
I ordered a $3,300 Jackson USA from a seller in Korea who delayed the shipping because his son was in the hospital. Also, he kept saying he would send more pictures, but never did. Fortunately, the guitar came through! SMH Scared, shitless...
this guy is just soooo mellow about everything, if I had a Guitar stolen I would just lose it!!!! I would be pulling into that guys driveway before he could set the phone down!