He's NEVER SEEN THIS?? | Alexander Hamilton + Aaron Burr, Sir | Reaction/Analysis ft Casper Fox
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Intro: (0:00)
Alexander Hamilton: (6:42)
Aaron Burr, Sir: (21:49)
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Mortius, could you please give Casper a bit more room to speak? I totally get your enthusiasm (believe me, I am the same when discussing Hamilton) but Casper has interesting thoughts and we'd like to hear all that he wants to share. I noticed it a bit more in his video (My shot) - perhaps you can let him lead the conversation on the videos on his channel?
The best part about prophet casper is he never knows what he prophesied 😂 and when he's told he prophesied something he tries to remember what he said but never can
Reverse Kassandra.
Fun fact! Alexander Hamilton saying "If you stand for nothing burr, what will you fall for?" is a reference to a quote of his: "he who stands for nothing, falls for anything"
Cool!
Yes, I thought this was v common to the point of referencing a cliche
Th does that mean?
@@DevilspadeI mean it's either a statement that people who don't have a cause to fight for are idiots, or it means the same thing that the musical essentially says, if you don't have any sort of morals, then there are no deaths you won't sink to
"I'm the damn fool that shot him" IS a really interesting choice but I think it's really cool! You could call it a spoiler because it does tell you what's gonna happen, but by giving you that information right off the bat, it creates insane tension through the whole story. Because you're introduced to them, see how they meet, how they progress, how the relationship changes, and through all of it, there's the tension of knowing you can't take ot for granted, because you know how it's gonna end, and that it's gonna be a proeminent part of the play. It makes you sit on the edge of your seat and keep this sense of unease whenever they share the stage. Exchanging susprise, for suspense.
Burr actually called himself "a damn fool" for shooting Hamilton.
SPOILERS INBOUND:
You could say the same about the "i loved him" line, because it's said by all 3 of them. Of course this is for the stage production part of it, cause you might not be able to tell just in the audio.
All the other ones having double meaning, like Morius said, are way more subtle, because well... the actors are playing more the one character. But having Angelica, Eliza and Maria all singing "i loved him" i would say is quite the spoiler. Of course, i don't tgink many people remember it on the first watch, but yk.
Also it's a very Shakespearean thing imo, like how in Romeo and Juliet the opening monologue *tells you* that the two main characters are going to take their own lives
@@randomwriter9570 not featured in the play, but Peggy also had a platonic thing going on with Hamilton.
First time I watched it I completely forgot about this line and therefore it didn't become a spoiler really and was more a shock of "oh, they foreshadowed that hard from the beginning" when I realized it later
Marquis (de La Fayette) is a french noble title. His full name is Marie-Joseph Paul Yves Roch Gilbert du Motier de La Fayette ^^'
Do you know how he got the title?
@@zzstacy_flowerzz9288 since its pre-revolution i assume its an hereditary title 🤷 will probably say on wikipedia. Didnt check that.
Well thank goodness we're not expected to memorize that in the Musical
@@NordemRay because all the other raps are so easy they just roll off the tongue? :P
But to be honest, it would probably disrupt the flow ^^'
Random weird fact about La Fayette. When he passed away he was buried in France with a bit of American soil. Reason I know this, had to do a project on Hamilton musical vs historical and learned that.
Casper: I've never listened to Hamilton before
Mortius: It's Free Real Estate
Fun fact: the bursar thing didn’t happen. It only exists specifically for the rhyme
And Ron Chernow HATED it. 🤣
I feel like the line “fools who run their mouths off wind up dead” is a reference to the rapping
OOOOOH I love that
@@officialmortius i also always thought that it was lowkey a foreshadowing kind of thing!
- after burr says, _"fools who run their mouths off wind up dead"_
- laurens comes in and says his lines, _"yo, yo, yo, what time is it? showtime!"_
- then burr says, _"like i said"_
and thennnn laurens ends up the *first* out of them to die
@@klosuxohhhh that’s so smart actually!
Besides the obvious, of course, that the colonies are super tense and to go about openly talking about revolution while the British are ruling is quite a risk.
@@klosux OOOOOOOWWWWWWW
LIN MANDREL MOANA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I CANNOT BREATHE LMFAO
26:50 don't worry Mortius, everyone knows that Lin can't really sing lol- hence, his preference for rapping. It's funny bc when he made the music for encanto, he made Bruno's part in the last song very rap like and in a style that 100% fit Lin. They didn't let him, but I bet he made that part to sing it himself. You hear it and you're like oh this is Lin no doubt
I once saw an interview with Lin where he described his voice as an old Chevy pickup truck. “It may not be pretty but it gets you where you need to go” 😂
The musical Casper is talking about is Tick Tick Boom. Lin didn't write it, but he directed the movie. It was originally written by the main character, Johnathan Larston, who would later write the Musical Rent
PLEASE do "Dear Theodosia" and "Non Stop" in the same video so we can see his reaction to the Laurens Interlude.
YES
@@BrilliantDemise I feel sadistic just for requesting that, tbh.
petition to do *"first burn"* after you're through with this amazing musical (and the *"hamilton in 7 minutes"* summary) ♥ also there are reaaaaally beautiful *animatics* for this musical ^^
"The beatboxing always sucks." I cannot wait for him to see _that_ part in Act Two.
The *best* bad beatbox to ever be put to stage. 😂
I love the concept of Burr revealing right away that he shoots Alexander, and being almost a secondary protagonist for most of the show, along with being the narrator.
Just to keep in mind about the lyric "I wish there was a war...", in the time this musical happen wars were probably the only real way you could social climb. By joining the army and getting promoted you could make money sure, but more than that, you could make a name for yourself, Hamilton is a poor immigrant at this point, a war is his best SHOT!
Casper using Epic as perspective is really funny to me because I did the reverse with Epic. I view Odysseus and Eurylochus's relationship like Alexander and Burr's. Eurylochus is the voice of reason trying to keep Odysseus from getting himself killed with his insane ideas (harpooning a floating sky) in the same way that Burr is pragmatic and tries to keep Alexander from fucking around and finding out ("talk less, smile more", "You wanna get ahead? fools who run their mouths off wind up dead."), and the real Burr actually prevented a duel between Alexander and James Monroe.
Does that make John Laurens Polites?😉
@@michellewest4796 that ABSOLUTELY makes John Laurens Polites
Spoilers
THE PART WHERE LAFAYETTE/THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID (We fought with him) HE LITERALLY FOUGHT WITH HIM ON THE BATTLEFIELD AS LAFAYETTE AND IN THE COURT ROOM AS JEFFERSON!!! 😮😮😮
Sshhhh no spoilers /j
@itsmxtwist totally didn't even think it was a spoiler, then I remembers he never watched this before 😳 my baf
@@jasmineperez4439 lol don’t take me too seriously
A general rule for these two’s channels is to never reference a future detail. No matter how small it is. This rule was made because this got so bad with Epic.
and he fought *with* him in the war as in alongside him, however in the courtrooms *with* as in against him
Like the *with* has two meanings.
Lin knows every word and phrase in the English language that rhymes with "Burr, sir" 🤣
His interpretation of "waiting in the wings" fits Alexander's monologue in "World Was Wide Enough".
"And I knew something had to change." I immediately thought of "Do I need to change?" from "Monster".
The preview 😂 CASPER!!!!!!! The profet has spoken lol
Alexander actually once wrote to a friend "I wish there was a war." I can't recall, but I think that may have been part of what got him noticed by his community as being so gifted with words.
I think if I remember it right, he did write something like that to his friend, but the major thing that got the town to notice him was a heartfelt poem he wrote about the hurricane that had torn through the town ( I don't even remember if it was actually a poem, but that was the point where everything sort of changed for him)
@@dragansnyder2786 I think it was a letter to his father. I know what you're referring to, but I can't remember either.
@@disableddragonborn you may be right, I honestly forgot that it was first written in letter form (I think it was a bit of verse written to his dad, that one of his friends published in his name)
@@dragansnyder2786 I started reading Ron Chernow's book, had a lot of health issues interrupt that (nothing new for me tbh) and I now have a TBI that makes reading exhausting, so I never got to finish reading it, but those bits are what I remember both from the biography, and from the Hamilton book Lin wrote.
Historical hades
Purple Burr mentioned. Don't worry Casper, we will put you back together after the musical
Tick tick boom! mention!! Thats the turning 30 musical
Marquis is actually not Lafayette's name, but his title, the same way someone could introduce themself as Lord Lastname, he introduced himself as Marquis de Lafayette
Another reason to rewatch Hamilton letsgooo!
Tick Tick BOOM musical was written by Jonathan Larson. It was Lin-Manuel Miranda's directorial debut. Btw Rent & Tick Tick BOOM written by Jonathan Larson were Miranda's inspiration for In the Heights. Andrew Garfield learned how to sing & play piano for the movie
The musical Casper is talking about that Lin directed is Tick...Tick...BOOM! He didn't actually write it, but he adapted it into a movie on Netflix. It's an autobiographical musical by Jonathan Larson ( RENT ), Andrew Garfield is playing Jonathan. I 100% recommend checking it out! I know Lin cites the musical & Jonathan Larson as big inspirations for him
I got into Hamilton through my younger sister. She was the one who was obsessed with Hamilton. She loved it and got really good at finding the bootlegs before it was on Disney+. She had this notebook where she wrote down everything she observed, specific costume changes or set changes, specific dance moves or how extras acted amongst each other. She would dedicate some watch through to just watch one character and note everything they did that she could find, sometimes this included the main cast but she loved the dedication to the extras as well. (She was 13/14 during all this, I don't think she is as enthralled anymore but it's what jumpstarted me into musical theatre seeing her passion for it.)
The Musical with Andrew Garfield is Tik Tik Boom. He didn't write it. It was written by Jonathan Larson who wrote Rent. It was can autobiographical show. Lin directed the movie for Netflix. It's a great directorial debut.
I know there's not a proshot of In The Heights, but I love how into the analysis you get and I want to hear more Lin-Manuel from you
Side note: Marquis isn't a name, it's a nobility title. He's essentially addressed as "This guy from this place" exclusively
I love watching Mortius break down the rhyme schemes and analyze lyrical and vocal choices. It really enhances my appreciation for music I already love. And the way Casper picks up on instrumental choices is impressive. They’re both delightfully perceptive.
I first learned about this musical through the animatics made by Szin.
My favorite detail in the entire show is the door creaking open sound in the "Alexander Hamilton" beginning, then in a later song, (Idk if I need to avoid specifying, given that the end is spoiled by the first song but I will) while it still has the same music, you can hear the door slam shut.
What?? I never noticed that! When do you hear it in "Alexander Hamilton"?
@@perezjuarezsara5379 The strings after the dundundun. 6:53 It's more audible on the soundtrack.
@@disableddragonborn oh yeah, I hear it now! Also I looked for the door slamming shut and found it as well. That's such a cool fact, thanks for pointing it out!
@@perezjuarezsara5379 It's gonna drive me crazy, I can't figure out where I learned it from. It was some TH-cam channel, I think, but I can't find it. They had another video of another easter egg/hidden detail in the show that I can't remember right now.
Fun fact about the opening number: the white costumes are called the "storyteller costumes". So you're literally seeing Hamilton step out of the narrative ether and *into* the scene when he chucks his white coat and puts on the brown one. Also interesting that our narrator doesn't get a storyteller costume - he's occupying his own weird in-scene and also fourth-wall-breaking space from the time the first note plays until the play ends.
Oh, this is FANTASTIC! I'm loving rewatching and listening to Hamilton and seeing how much fun Mortius is having. Thank you for needing this introduction, Casper. Let's go!
The part where Hamilton wishes for a war was not just his own sentiment, it was one of the only ways to rise in society at the time. Being a soldier would at the very least gain you some recognition, which equalled to future opportunities if you survived. So, you would either die a hero, or you could survive and rise in status, something the show also touches upon!
I'm so excited for this 'saga' of y'all's reactions 🤭😭
Just you wait :D
I find it fascinating that because he lied about his age to get into college and stuff in America, we don't know for sure what year Alexander was born.
33:18 This is like that one "I hope she plays ___" "girl this is ___" trend on tik tok.
Casper : "I wonder if this is the danger motif"
Mortius : "This is hamilton"
😭😭😭😭😭
Unlike Epic both me and casper are going into this blind, I'm really glad I got back into musicals because of Epic.
26:00 I AM SO LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING CASPER'S INPUT FOR "Hurricane"! Lin's imperfect voice makes him the best fit for the role, and a quote from the actual Alexander Hamilton is why. "I never expect to see a perfect work from an imperfect man." Alexander was very flawed, so his voice should reflect his imperfection, especially in "Hurricane", given the context of his situation in that song.
If I can throw out another Miranda musical. 21 Chump Street is a short and sweet show.
"Wasted out of their minds"? That's not until "The Story of Tonight". They're sober compared to that. 😂
I absolutely LOVE Hamilton! Watched it on Disney plus when it aired and even watched the musical live in the Pantages Theatre with my mom! can't wait for u to listen to all the songs!
You guys are doing Hamilton? We’re eating good y’all. 🎉
Oooo I was waiting for this! I am so excited to see Casper's reaction to Hamilton! I need to sing satisfied more! I love that song.
I once saw an interview with LMM where he described his singing voice as being like an old Chevy pickup “it isn’t pretty but it can get you where you need to go” so you are definitely not alone in thinking his singing voice is on the weaker side! 😂
Im so excited, im willing to wait for it 😎
I'm so happy & excited that they're reacting to the ProShot! Fellow theatre nerds rejoice! In The Heights would be a fun one too.
Tick Tick Boom is the movie that Casper is talking about. A MUST SEE for your next pole
I can’t wait for “say no to this”and “what did I miss” that’s one of my personal favorite ❤
I only now understood that „fools who run their mouth wind up dead“ is a spoiler because john Laurence started talking and Aron burr just answered „like i said..“ basically saying that john Laurence will die.
I noticed something that I can't find a reason for anywhere, but knowing Lin, it has to have a reason, and it's that Burr is one of the only characters who is never addressed as just his first name.
My guess is that he's not especially friendly with anyone, always somewhat professional
@@bluecretan7441 I mean, there's the line "Congress writes "George, attack the British forces!"..." and while that's a passing use of a first name, it's one that involves a non-personal communication using a first name. Plus, he's friends with Alexander, he's just not emotionally vulnerable around him.
@@disableddragonborn that's a good point!
@@bluecretan7441 Honestly, I really relate to Burr in a lot of ways, and that's probably why I'm able to interpret it that way, because emotional vulnerability is something I am just as bad (probably worse) with. 😂
@@disableddragonborn makes sense! I think you're right
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN’T WAIT!
Wild percy jackson spotted😲
PERCY WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?
@@Anumybeloved Greeks are big on theatrics. We get it from the gods. I mean look at Zeus and my dad.
@@elijahquipse5879eh fair enough
I once overthought Hamilton's singing ability. To me, in the musical rapping feels more like its used for "professional" moments like when they debate, and plan. While singing is more used for emotional moments. The fact that the songs we only hear Hamilton sings are when he is going through extremely emotional shows how much he is better at the intellectual things than the emotional.
im mortius all throughout this video 😂 just singing every word and bar and nerding out
The musical Casper was talking about is Tick Tick Boom, which was not written by lin, it was written by Jonathan Larson (which the musical is about) lin however directed it and adapted it into a movie form
yes!!! finally! i've been waiting for this! would've been so cool for them to react to all the szin animatics cause those were the stuff that got me into hamilton lol
If you fine folks are interested there are really good animatics for Hamilton as well on youtube~ love the reactions
aaron burr's reveal so early is important and indicative that other than alexander being on the 10$ bill, the no1 thing or only thing kids remember being taught about him in public schools is the fact that he got shot 😂Before the musical it really was all my friends and i remember from school
So, as a history buff and lover of musicals, this is an interesting musical for me. It has many great songs and I can't wait to see you cover them.
For those who might be interested in history, funny thing is that we don't actually know when Burr met Hamilton, but in history their relationship was kind of the opposite of in the musical. They first met and butted heads, but worked closer as time went on. A similar case to Laurens, Lafayette, and Mulligan. Hamilton didn't meet Lafayette or Laurens until the Revolution was well under way and he was serving in the army.
A point that isn't mentioned at all is that Mulligan is actually who Hamilton would have met *first* in New York, as the two lived together while Hamilton attended college and Mulligan probably never actually met either Laurens or Lafayette.
Of course they merged all this together for the musical as its necessary for Hamilton's story, but it's interesting to see the little parts of history that remain after the adaptation.
*Laurens
@@TheCanderemy Whoops, fixed it. Thanks.
Your editors are hysterical.
This is gonna be so cool! Im so excited!
I am so excited to see you guys react to this!!! You brought me back to my Hamilton hyperfixation in like .5 second and i'm enjoying every second :)
It is a perfect opportunity to remind the audience how young our founding fathers were. Hamilton himself was 19.
Well, it's not sure Hamilton was 19. For the historians, when Hamilton arrived in New York, he probably lied about his age. So we don't know if he was 17 or 19. Therefore, we don't know the age of Hamilton when he died ; 47 or 49.
Fun fact : the musical have 47 songs !
To me i always interpreted the line "we are waiting in the wings for you" as like the people of the country saying they are primed and waiting for him to come along to make history like he did.
I got to see this when it first came to Vancouver, and though my seats were not the best, it meant I had the perfect view into the orchestra pit down to the piano, and got to watch the pianist as much as I watched the show. It was incredible
I LOVE HAMILTON SO MUCH AND YOU GUYS DOING A REACTION IS EVERYTHING ESPECIALLY SINCE CASPER HASNT SEEN IT
Didn't expect you start this reaction series today, a very nice surprise for me there! So excited for Hamilton, as I am one of the people who commented it under your post for musical monday.
Also want to let you know that there are a few Hamilton songs in an official German translation available on TH-cam, should you ever be interested in hearing them in another language. They actually translated the whole musical and it premiered in Hamburg in 2022, but unfortunately it wasn’t very successfull, so only a few songs got official releases. (I actually watched the musical in German and thought the translation worked really well)
Again, very excited for this reaction series here!
Ooh, it's not a big deal in terms of the musical but for your reaction: Alexander refers to Lafayette with his whole title and name during Right Hand Man to emphasize to George Washington how important his dear, battle-ready fighting Frenchman is.
Mortius, good job on finding a way to talk about Hamilton! I am so, SO here for it
I really, really wish I had gotten this notification... I've been looking forward to this series since you first mentioned it, and I love the musical. There's just not many good reactions to Hamilton, and I know you'll know a lot of the subtle details. Time to watch this and have fun!
My favorite song is Wait For It :)
Also, it's really, really fun to trace motifs throughout this show :)
That's a very similar structure (opening song being kind of a summary of the whole thing) to Sweeney Todd, where the opening song spoils everything, and it's a very cool detail
Literally cannot wait for hadestown it's my favorite!❤
ok hear me out, but the whole revealing important plot points in the first song is a parallel to The Room Where It Happens.
In The Room Where It Happens, Burr reveals the bare bones of the dinner, and then more details are revealed later in the song, which is exactly what happens in the first song. Burr reveals that he shot Hamilton, and as the show progresses, we see how it happens - we get more details.
Really excited for Casper to prophesize everything that'll happen in Hamilton! Also, I'd love love LOVE for you to see Tick Tick Boom! It was originally a Rock Opera biography musical written and performed by Jonathan Larson (the creator of RENT), which Lin Manuel-Miranda then directed a movie of! The music is REALLY FREAKING GOOD!! Even if you can't react to it, I believe it's worth a watch or 5!
Love your enthusiasm. Yoz love hamilton as much as I do and I enjoy this so much
Everytime there's a piano present in this musical Kasper is going to be like "Athena!?!?!!?"
It was kind of interesting to watch the musical and hear Burr spend a lot of time regretting that he shot Hamilton, and then you hear that in real life he never really showed much regret about it, he only showed some vague remorse once, and the words he used there are part of a really important song later (since you haven't finished this yet, I will try not to spoil it even though we know where the story is going because they told us)
Just wanted to inform everyone that Caleb Hyles just made a cover of "no longer you", and it's awesome (as always). Highly recommend Mortius react to it, but no pressure of course.
It's soooo good!!!
Hi I just to say my take on the line 'Waiting in the wings, for you' has always been from the fact that Hamilton was an Immigrant therefore America was waiting in the wings for him to arrive, as it was always a possible dream for him to even get there given his family status at the time. I also get your reference to the 'wings' on stage as I have been involved with Theatre since a young age
Oh, wonderful. Another half hour video that I MUST watch and don’t have time for. It’s your fault I don’t get enough sleep 😉
I really hope you guys will check out some of the cut songs when you are done with the main ones! There are some great animatics of those, ad espcially "Dear Theodisia - Reprise" is one I personaly think is almost a must! It's a crime that it got cut, becouse it gives so much more context to Aaron Burrs actions in the end! (to not fully spoil something, just in case people in the comment haven't watched the musical yet xD)
The Marquis de Lafayette's real first name is Gilbert. Idk why I find that so funny. Probably because it doesn't seem like a French name. "Marquis de Lafayette" is just a title he earned.
Marquis de Lafayette is a title. His name was actually Marie-Joseph Paul Yves Roch Gilbert du Motier
Ok funny thing is, I've never been into musicals but I'm obsessed with the first song in Hamilton (haven't even seen the musical I know wtf) but now you are in my recommends because of that and I hear this talk about EPIC which is the only other musical thing I'm obsessed about! Now I have to check those videos out! I've been rooting for Jorge since the beginning and I want that Hamilton fame for him so bad! He deserves it 100%!
Recommend In the heights; another Lin Manuel Miranda musical; if you like hamilton
@@mayathew7607 I'll for sure check that out! Thank you!
@@cindygrape There are some songs you could tell Lin wrote them; you'll love them
16:15 Casper with the unintentional picking up on a double meaning. Then 20:30 Mortius drops the "double foreshadowing" bomb and breaks Casper's brain. 😂
There's a website that has basically every American historical document archived, and I've read some of what Alexander wrote, and it felt super weird at first, because since he was so good with words, I forgot that literacy was basically nonexistent back then. He misspelled a lot of (in my opinion easy) words.
Oh I’m so hyped for this
Huh I never thought of “wings” as the sides of the stage. I always interpreted that as like the wings of a building like the White House having different wings. That something much bigger than him was waiting for him. I also felt wings was also used as a form of sidelines which is starting to make so much more sense that the context was actually stage wings. I think it shows how although Hamilton is a founding father that does get some attention he somewhat always ends up being the guy backing others or advising others rather than forging a new nation
Casper was thinking of *Tick, Tick... Boom!*
8 years ago? I almost didn't let myself become obsessed with Epic because Hamilton already nearly consumed my waking days. I was relieved to learn it wasn't a full show yet, because I missed that opportunity with Hamilton, seeing a performance from the original cast, and the tickets cost more money than I am worth.
12:10 I just realized they snuck The Bullet in there. Those sly motherfuckers😂
im interested to see the perspectives of a foreigner to this play, outside thoughts are always so fascinating to listen to
Hamilton is what got me into musicals. And the first song I heard was ironically the last one as part of a Legend of Korra/Avatar AMV. Strange to think about.
I recommend to anyone who likes this musical and wants a deeper look into the Hamilton life to take a look at the book "My Dear Hamilton" by Stephanie Dray and Laura Kamoie. Its a book that follows Eliza rather than Alexander, but it still offers a lot in terms of getting more story and figuring out where the musical and history differ. Its a historical fiction piece, so it is told from her POV but is research based and very powerful
Hearing that you’re doing Hadestown is so exciting, it would make a great duo reaction too