The Lord of the Rings | The Return of the King Revisited (2003)

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  • @NerdSoup
    @NerdSoup  3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

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    Also, feel free to yell at us in the comments when Beau inevitably mispronounces Aragorn.

    • @NerdSoup
      @NerdSoup  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And Smeagol.

    • @FunkMastaMegaFlex
      @FunkMastaMegaFlex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Smeagol???? You mean that thing is in charge of thr monitoring network.

  • @blythebrumleve7035
    @blythebrumleve7035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    The greatest trilogy we will ever witness. Perfection from start to finish.

    • @CorrectionUnknown
      @CorrectionUnknown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You ain't wrong!

    • @derekmoore5271
      @derekmoore5271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I would love to see another great trilogy times have been rough lately

    • @AuzzieArtyst
      @AuzzieArtyst 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Derek Moore I mean the John Wick movies so far are a pretty flawless trilogy, but it’s nowhere near the caliber of Lotr.

    • @Morevids101
      @Morevids101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolute perfection

    • @mygog7728
      @mygog7728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hot

  • @TheIrishSpartacus
    @TheIrishSpartacus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    A nerd soup review is never late nor early, it arrives precisely when it means to

    • @acrylicqualia
      @acrylicqualia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Precisely

    • @DG-tt1gl
      @DG-tt1gl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice one

    • @kguff6262
      @kguff6262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Soups back on the menu boys!!”

  • @aacsmiles
    @aacsmiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    When Aragorn says "For Frodo" and Merry & Pippin are the first to charge with him.... I cry.

    • @DaaaaaapleSmit
      @DaaaaaapleSmit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah how tf did they not even mention that along with Sam carrying Frodo like wtf

    • @brandscott3037
      @brandscott3037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too homie

  • @blondeboi22
    @blondeboi22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Don’t worry about dinner mum, soups on the menu tonight 🍻

    • @hcamp74
      @hcamp74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Soups back on the menu boys!

    • @David-se5ph
      @David-se5ph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is perfect 👌🏿

    • @victoriatackett443
      @victoriatackett443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent 🤣

  • @neilstein3971
    @neilstein3971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    You gotta see Christopher Lee’s comments on getting stabbed in this movie and how he corrects Peter Jackson on what getting stabbed sounds like, he’s former British Intelligence and that’s all I’ll say

    • @TheJosep70
      @TheJosep70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Right. His missions during WWII are still classified.

    • @neilstein3971
      @neilstein3971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Josep Duran honestly I can’t wait until they declassify it and they make a movie about all the badass stuff he was doing then

    • @TheJosep70
      @TheJosep70 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neilstein3971 Hmm I think I read somewhere that they won't ever be declassified. But I might be wrong.

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My favourite part of that whole recording is Peter Jackson's face after he says it.

  • @sweetroll1723
    @sweetroll1723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Yall need to do the Hobbit movies now. Yes we all know they're not as good, but seeing you guys critique and well, suffer, is fun.

    • @paulprothero9997
      @paulprothero9997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Definitely. Good films. Just not great

    • @s.a.o9816
      @s.a.o9816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@paulprothero9997 definitely didn't live up to LoTR

    • @knockitoffhudson3470
      @knockitoffhudson3470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Dalle Smalhals lucky you

    • @kevinw712
      @kevinw712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The incredible irony between the two scenarios (if I have the history right, which I believe I do) is how Jackson and his peeps ultimately really wanted to do LOTR as a trilogy but had become quite willing to telling the story in two films, thus putting all the work they did into that version before finding the right studio allowing them to do it in three, cut to a decade later where he (& in accordance with Guillermo Del Toro) really wanted to do The Hobbit in two films, before the studio said the only way we'll let you at all is in three films and it has to be started by 'x' date.

    • @dominikbradvica9406
      @dominikbradvica9406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kevinw712 finaly someone who understands that it wasnt Jacksons fault, it was WBs fault.

  • @MrFlamesFan12
    @MrFlamesFan12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That moment when Sam goes “I can’t carry it for you, but I can carry you.” To me is the ultimate hero moment. He musters up every bit of energy he has and puts aside his own exhaustion to carry his friends burden. I cant put into words my love of these movies. Of the three I think ROTK is my favourite.

  • @Mick-HHH
    @Mick-HHH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    When Rohan joins the battle is the most epic moment in cinema history for me. Even more so in the director's cut

    • @viksaggu9085
      @viksaggu9085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally

    • @nineradvocate
      @nineradvocate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The Charge of the Rohirrim at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields... My favorite moment in cinematic history. I get misty eyed every time I watch it. "Courage Merry. Courage for our friends." - Eowyn as they look over the impossibly endless hordes of Orcs sieging Mina's Tirith. Theoden is leading the last of his people to what they believe is certain death. This is why he screams "DEATH". An end to the people of Rohan, who are the sons of Eorl the Young... (This is why Theoden screams "Forth Eorlingas!").. the choreography of the charge is absolutely amazing as they smack into the Orc lines.. EPIC.

    • @jacobbooth3336
      @jacobbooth3336 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Ride of The Rohirrim. (TH-cam it)

    • @kingofthesharks
      @kingofthesharks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tears every time. No exaggeration

    • @kingofthesharks
      @kingofthesharks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@diegodelariva2036 the endgame portals moment was likely inspired by lotr rohirrim arrivals. Both were excellent

  • @davidluna2222
    @davidluna2222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    the ghost section in the video game probably took up half of my childhood

    • @MrFlamesFan12
      @MrFlamesFan12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The hype that I got when I finally beat that level is second to none.

  • @therebelsaiyan5559
    @therebelsaiyan5559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Rewatched the trilogy about a month ago. Just as good as it was when it came out in my teens. Will forever be a classic.

    • @roxystarlite4106
      @roxystarlite4106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      God its SO hard to come to terms with the fact I was a teenager when this came out! Such a huge part of my nerdy theater high school story!

    • @therebelsaiyan5559
      @therebelsaiyan5559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Roxy Starlite no shame!!

    • @roxystarlite4106
      @roxystarlite4106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@therebelsaiyan5559 absolutely NO shame lol! I started Larping because I was obsessed with those books and these films! I gave myself an elven name and everything🤣

  • @nathanwinning8331
    @nathanwinning8331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Looks like Soup's back on the menu boys.

  • @MagaldiMateus
    @MagaldiMateus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Something most people forget when watching just the movies, is that most in middle earth do not know about Frodo and The One, most of the decisions that may look nonsensical or just too grim are made in the situation of a hopeless world, most in middle earth were just looking to have a good death since the darkness looked almost unstoppable.

  • @Freaksoftheinternet
    @Freaksoftheinternet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    "Extended editions only" is correct.

  • @bthermidorl3496
    @bthermidorl3496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Theoden's speech smokes Aragorn's. It's all about the goosebumps kids.

    • @similarrose5811
      @similarrose5811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love that it’s pretty much straight out of the book

    • @trequor
      @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love the Rohirrim charge more, but Aragorn always gives me chills when he says "an hour of wolves and shattered shields, when the age of men comes CRASHING DOWN!"

  • @imheretosayyo3064
    @imheretosayyo3064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    People think Return Of The King is the worst???

    • @connordolan4597
      @connordolan4597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Literally how

    • @AE24N
      @AE24N 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Imo the Two Towers is my least favorite

    • @aidanwotherspoon905
      @aidanwotherspoon905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It’s the worst in the same way there is technically an ugliest Victoria’s Secret model 🤷‍♂️

    • @KatieLHall-fy1hw
      @KatieLHall-fy1hw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe because it’s the end?

    • @Ladylike79
      @Ladylike79 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know! That’s hard to believe.

  • @nathanreece1154
    @nathanreece1154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Wait, Return of the King is the least of the three? Is that actually a thing? It's the highest rated on imdb, earned the most Oscar's, and I've never heard anyone who didn't think that Return of the King was the best one.

    • @ranica47
      @ranica47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There are quite a few who prefer The Two Towers.

    • @viksaggu9085
      @viksaggu9085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ya wtf? Most ppl seem to make 2 towers the least of the three although all 3 great

    • @ranica47
      @ranica47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@viksaggu9085 I think it's the battle of Helm's Deep really, and the wargs, and the Ents taking down Isengard, Treebeard's ponderous dialogue, Frodo starting to show the effects of the Ring. There's a lot to recommend it.

    • @mackenziesmith7047
      @mackenziesmith7047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Return of the King is absolutely the least of the three. The ghost army ruins it for me. Seemed cheap in 2003, still seems cheap to this day 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @Jablickymorant
      @Jablickymorant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mackenzie Smith I agree somewhat, in the books tho the ghosts are much more tolerable as their not just a cheat code, and they were much harder to obtain

  • @viksaggu9085
    @viksaggu9085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The CGI is brilliant for a 2003 movie

    • @EvanTrace
      @EvanTrace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It will stand the test of time because it's only used when absolutely necessary and often in tandem with practical elements (ex. the Balrog) instead of pushing to make as much CGI as possible like the Star Wars prequels were doing at the time.

    • @arthasmenethil7208
      @arthasmenethil7208 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the cgi is brilliant even for today. I cant stand the cgi of the Hobbit movies. Just have a look a the orcs.I dont feel anything when I see them,or even the elves.

  • @amynurss1375
    @amynurss1375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They deserved every Oscar they won and more. They won for the beautiful trilogy that was created and will be celebrated for many years to come. My personal favorite of the books and the movies. They are perfect.

  • @Somegoy
    @Somegoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't even mention pip singing as faramir rides to his doom? One of the most heartbreaking scenes of the trilogy to me. Such impact

  • @rockndoc883
    @rockndoc883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “ My friends you bow to no one “

  • @DennisCNolasco
    @DennisCNolasco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My favorite scene of all time is the Ride of the Rohirrim!

  • @astoldbyethan5649
    @astoldbyethan5649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would definitely say for me at least, when I was 6, watching these movies as they came out is probably the closest feeling of amazement as the kids in the 70’s who got to see the original Star Wars movies. Even when I was a kid I could tell these movies were something special and so far ahead of anything else I had ever seen

    • @oisinomahony8255
      @oisinomahony8255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I saw these films in cinema between the ages of 10-12 - more than HP, more than Star Wars - these were the most incredible films I ever saw... i saw the Two Towers three times in cinema.

    • @astoldbyethan5649
      @astoldbyethan5649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Octavius Antonius I remember seeing Return of the King in theaters the others I watched at home with my Dad, I’ll never forget he asked “Do you wanna watch a scary movie?” It was Fellowship and I was 6 so it was definitely scary but I loved it so much

  • @IMOReviews
    @IMOReviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    How is this movie 17 years old! 👀 I must have gone to the cinema to watch this about five times! I loved every second 🙌

    • @roxystarlite4106
      @roxystarlite4106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These came out around my birthday every year! So I'd see all of them for my birthday! Dec 19th! Such a huge part of my life back then.

    • @calebwinfield1403
      @calebwinfield1403 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gone to the movies*
      USA! USA! USA!

    • @IMOReviews
      @IMOReviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Flesh Weasel UK*

    • @roxystarlite4106
      @roxystarlite4106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@IMOReviews yes!! That was such an eyeroll comment! Like clearly you weren't from the US. And how can anyone be proud to live in the US right now I am personally super embarrassed to.

    • @IMOReviews
      @IMOReviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Roxy Starlite 😂😂😂 well said! Although we’re not doing much better ourselves right now 😂

  • @whisperienced
    @whisperienced 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've never heard anyone say Return of the King is the lesser of the three. The only thing I've heard is that it has 10 endings.

    • @mackenziesmith7047
      @mackenziesmith7047 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What?

    • @nathanreece1154
      @nathanreece1154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I've never understood the "multiple endings" criticism. There's just one ending that is working to wrap everything up. With the trilogy taking 12 hours to watch, I think it's justified to have a half hour long ending. It would be super unsatisfying if the ending was any shorter.

    • @whisperienced
      @whisperienced 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nathanreece1154 I agree I never had a problem with them other than how bad I had to piss when I saw it in the theatre the first time lol.

    • @nathanreece1154
      @nathanreece1154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@whisperienced 😂 That's fair.

    • @Dman9fp
      @Dman9fp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's only like 4 and a half "endings" (destroyed ring and rescued- definitely can't end there too many loose ends, fellowship reunited and Frodo is ok- alright feel good stuff, but doesn't feel over yet, Mina's Tirith scene with Aragorn / Arwen and Hobbits being recognized- nice addition maybe not essential, might be the end- nope sailing of grey havens- ok nice addition better than it ending at Minas tirith- quick Sam returning to the shire and balance restored- most natural feeling and true to the book ending, really isn't that bad) and even then it only really sucked when seeing it in theater and really really had to pee by then lol; can't just end something this epic just like that

  • @Ursy
    @Ursy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    God I remember being 7-8 years old getting my little cousins past those god damn levels in the return of the king ps2 game. He had been stuck on them for months and his 3 year old brother had learned how to delete his memory card save files when he wasnt given a chance to play or wanted attention. But I remember my little cousins hated the elephant level, never passing it once as aragorn and I just rolled in and beat it in one try with legolas. Proudest gaming moment of my childhood. I wish those games could be remastered. Shadow of mordor ain't got the same feel to it. It plays like a batman game imo.

  • @PranavanathanYoganathan
    @PranavanathanYoganathan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of the all time great movies, I remember seeing it 7 times in the theater.

  • @sergiomendoza4850
    @sergiomendoza4850 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The scene of Aragon and company rolling up on Mary and pippin smoking that long bottom leaf is one of my favorites of the trilogy in hindsight. I never understood it as a kid, but as an adult I now love it lol.

  • @iSUCKatTHlSgame
    @iSUCKatTHlSgame 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    oh man, I got hype af with that "Ether egg" 10:05

    • @ogjames21
      @ogjames21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice wordplay 👍🏾

  • @salflores713
    @salflores713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don't think Sam was hesitating to keep the ring for him self he was doing it because of how frodo was looking at him

    • @Ladylike79
      @Ladylike79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree.

    • @Ladylike79
      @Ladylike79 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      P S I don’t agree.

    • @blkluster1986
      @blkluster1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Ring actually showed Sam a vision of him defeating Sauron and becoming a great Lord. Sam rejected the vision knowing the Ring would be try him.

  • @kingofthesharks
    @kingofthesharks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My #2 movie of all time. Don't understand anyone who says it's the weakest of the three.....but they're all 10/10 films anyway.
    Shelob's lair was freaking scary back in 2003 tho

    • @Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human
      @Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even as someone who loves spiders, Shelob's lair is scary now.
      I think a lot of the people who call it the worst of the 3 are the same people who're annoyed by it's more endings than Nier Automata. So morons, basically.
      I'd say the ranking goes Fellowship, Return of the King, Two Towers.
      I loved Two Towers, but Helm's Deep was the standout moment. Ir was a 10/10 scene.
      Return had no 10/10 moments, but was overall 9/10, so jt waa better overall

    • @mrhalfwit972
      @mrhalfwit972 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      as someone who used to have sever arachnophobia, Shelob gave me nightmares for week! :)
      :(

    • @mrhalfwit972
      @mrhalfwit972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human no 10/10 moments? I'd put the rohirrim charge, the "For frodo", Saurons death, the entire siege of minas-tirith, shelob, Sam's soul being crushed when frodo gave in and pippin's song as faramir and the bois get shredded with arrows. But hey you're you and I'm not so eh.

    • @Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human
      @Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrhalfwit972 You can tell I was half asleep, on the way home from an 11 hour shift when I wrote that moronic comment. *Face-palm*
      I cannot believe I forgot the Charge of the Rohirrim. I *love* that scene. I rank it as one of the best moments of all cinema. I still get goosebumps watching it.
      Faramir's Sacrifice is also a brilliant, 10/10 scene, as is Aragorn's charge at the Black Gate, but I would put the other scenes as 8's and 9's.
      Minis Tirith still annoys me - one of my favourite characters from the books is Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth, I had been desperately looking forward to seeing him and the Knights of the Silver Swan. I still remember talking to my sister about how disappointing I found their exclusion as we waiting for a taxi home from the midnight screening of ROTK.
      Brilliant scene, but one of my best bois being cut, and the cannonically badass as hell Gondorian soldiers having armour made of tissue paper keeps it a mere 9/10 for me.

    • @mrhalfwit972
      @mrhalfwit972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human I do agree of the disappointment of imrahil not being there, well he was but he had a signel face shot and was in the background during denethors "My line has ended" thing. still imrahil was amazing I wish he and the knights of dol amroth were more included. and despite gondor's soldiers being reduced to flailing nobody's I'm ok with it as I think it does work despite being wrong.

  • @kevinw712
    @kevinw712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've felt for many years now that basically soon after Fellowship came out, a significant portion of the academy made an unofficial decision. They saw that Peter Jackson knocked the first movie out of the park, and considering the way they were produced (unlike, say, a certain other large scale fantasy property), there was little reason not to think all three would essentially be equally as good. This first movie they could already tell could relatively easily be regarded as Best Picture, but especially since the entire trilogy was telling one grand, epic story, they'd be able to bestow the Best Picture trophy on just one of them and it would 'count' as acknowledging all three as such. They'd still give the first two movies nominations for Best Pic, but they'd take what seemed a somewhat safe gamble and making it almost a foregone conclusion that the trophy would go to film 3, since it had the proper ending(s!) This would allow them to give what they felt proper recognition to Jackson and his team and the fantasy genre overall, while still giving some totally different films a chance to grab the acclaim for the first two years.
    What makes the situation with The Godfather franchise so different and thus irrelevant to this argument is that when the academy gave the first Godfather movie Best Picture, there wasn't a built in awareness that a sequel was coming (nevermind two of them), so they still wound up giving Godfather 2 the trophy as well, and it remains the only sequel to ever win the award.

  • @alexisgonzalez8680
    @alexisgonzalez8680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Finally. I'm here for this. My favorite one of the trilogy.

  • @nineradvocate
    @nineradvocate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just wanted to say thanks for this walk down memory lane. Love the humor and wit you guys bring as well as your obvious respect for the material / execution. Oh and thanks for reviewing the extended edition. Really enjoyed this one.

  • @Adam_K14
    @Adam_K14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i mean smegul did push his friend in the lake like he was trying to borderline kill him ...that psychotic turn seem like he was there lol

  • @thomasewatt
    @thomasewatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A Few helpful notes from a Tolkien Universe Nerd.
    There are a lot of hidden subtleties within the 6 movies that hint at the greater lore of the world which casual watchers miss.
    The Eagles, The Eagles are coming.
    Yes one reason they didn't fly the eagles to Mount Doom is because it would have been seen and the great fowl beasts of the Nazgul would have intercepted. Those beasts are also very powerful and are likely among the great beasts going back to the time of the first Dark Lord and Sauron's master Morgoth.
    However...
    The Eagles weren't like any other eagles or beasts for that matter so they couldn't be merely controlled or used as other beasts were. The Eagles were the spiritual Ainur or spirits from before creation which is the same origin as all the Valar, Maiar including Gandalf, Sauron, the Balrogs and whatnot. The Eagles were most importantly the servants of the Valar King Manwe who with this Dark Lord didn't want to get directly involved after all the destruction caused by the War of Wrath when the Valar and Maiar (The Gods) clashed directly in battle with the forces of Morgoth. They instead were indirectly involved with this battle against Sauron by first sending a group of Maiar called the Istari or 5 wizards (including Sauroman, Gandalf, Radagast and the 2 blue wizards) to unite the Kingdoms of man, elves, dwarves and such against the darkness. The eagles were also ways that Manwe was involved in the war so when Gandalf called upon the help of Manwe he sent the eagles to help him (first rescuing him from Isengard from the fallen Istari but then at Gondor and Mordor). So the Eagles weren't mere beasts by a way that the Gods of Arda were helping Middle Earth from Valinour (The Undying lands).
    Tolkien's Dark Lord(s)
    As I mentioned earlier there is a lot of lore, stories and wars that happened before The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. Sauron isn't the first Dark Lord so I guess it's best to go back to the beginning. Well first it's good to clarify, We don't see much of the One God above all Eru Ilúvatar after creation except really in the destruction of Numenour after Sauron corrupted it but he's still present in Arda via the Valar and Maiar. So at the very beginning before creation Eru Iluvatar creates the Ainur or spirits who sings creation into existence as with Eru's plan , well I lied Melkor wanted power and is the classic Satan in this universe so he starts messing up the song making evil and a whatnot and recruits a lot of the lesser Ainur to serve him as the first Dark Lord (Sauron being one of them). So fast forward after the events of the two lamps, two trees, war for the sake of the elves and eventually morphing into the War of Wrath a lot of the world is destroyed by the utter chaos which was this war and Melkor now called called Morgoth is forever sent into the void. Sauron, the Balrogs, Dragons and other servants of Morgoth escape and go into hiding. Some time passes and then Lieutenant Sauron decides to continue the work and becomes the next Dark Lord. being a Maiar (the same species as Gandalf, Saruman the Balrogs and others to name a few) he quickly starts to expand his power. Sauron eventially realizes the Island Nation of Numenor (The ancestors to Gondor and the former kingdom Armor Where Bree-Town, the Shire and such is located) so he tries to trick them into attacking Mordor but is overcome and surrenders. That was apart of his plan and he quickly becomes a courtier and manipulates the King of Numenor to start worshiping Morgoth with human sacrifice and other satanic crap. He then convinces Numenor to break the band of Valar (Where no man can enter Valinour) and as mentioned earlier this was one of the few times Eru directly intervene into Arda. Luckly some of the Numenorians were still faithful to the Valar and escaped forming the Numenorian Kingdoms in Exile of Gondor and Arnor. Sauron's physical form was destroyed but because he still had the One Ring at that time (Which is another story for another time) his spirit was able to escape back to Mordor to reform (though he lost the Maiar power to shape-shift and could only take a dark and evil form) We then get to the stories we know quite well. So with that backgroun it really shows how deep and rich the lore behind even the most basic elements of the story are. Another thing that is quite overlooked is the destruction of the Ring causing the other great structures to be toppled. Sauron used the magic of The Ring to build a lot of those structures so when the ring was undone (And yes only the dark magic in Mt Doom was able to destroy it and not just because it was a hot volcano) All the ring had done through it's magic was also undone.
    Hope this helps

    • @leonbrooks2107
      @leonbrooks2107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love the fact that people now claim his stories were to hide his “addiction” (hobby) for creating languages and histories to accompany them. Tolkien himself was a massive Nerd and he will always be our king!

    • @similarrose5811
      @similarrose5811 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They also only agree to help Gandalf specifically because he once did their Lord a favour, mentioned in the Hobbit.
      Radagast sent Gwaihir to Isengard & Galadriel sends him to Moria 👍

    • @TangoNevada
      @TangoNevada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn, I though the books were long?

    • @thomasewatt
      @thomasewatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tango Nevada you’d be surprised the books only covered the very end up the second age, third age and beginning of the fourth age which is just a small part of the history of Middle Earth, before even the first age there were giant brackets of centuries since creation like the age of the lamps, age of the two trees to name the main two, after the two trees (light sources) were destroyed by Melkor and ungoliant, the sun and moon were made starting the fist age and seeing the race of man first wake up along with dwarfs and such (elves, valor, Maiar and Melkors the creatures of darkness were already awake) we then have events like the War for the sake of the elves, fall of Gondilan, and such and at the end of the first age the massive War of wrath where the Valar finally get involved and defeated Melkor at great cost (why they didn’t intervene in the War of the ring as mentioned before. Other events before the Hobbit and LOTR books include the war of Dayton and the elves, The War between Sauron and Numinour, the Downfall of Numinour, Establishment of the Numinourian survivor’s Kingdoms in Exile (Gondor and Arnor) fall of Arnor to the Witch King of Agmar and such. All throughout you get some amazing one off adventures, characters, short stories as well as massive wars and world changing events like the war of wrath that destroyed all of the continent of Beleriand and saw massive destruction as well as Melkor being cast into the void beyond the physical world until dagor dagorath. So yeah a lot of history outside LOTR and the Hobbit from both the Silmarillion and the unfinished tales.
      I would read both if you could, hope this helps you understand how expansive the Tolkien Universe is beyond those 4 books

    • @TangoNevada
      @TangoNevada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomasewatt You lost me at "You'd be Surprised"

  • @Matthew52591
    @Matthew52591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing y’all had dropped this just improved my whole day! :) thanks guys for doing what you do!

  • @cheeseburger1293
    @cheeseburger1293 ปีที่แล้ว

    Re watched the trilogy extended edition back to back on new years. Best 12 hours of my life

  • @sendpie6565
    @sendpie6565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How much of a sunshine you have to be to bring Smeagol back even for a sec? Frodo is the hero the story needed and we deserve.

    • @baguettegott3409
      @baguettegott3409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YES! People talk so much about Sam being a true hero, which is obviously correct, but I feel like we don't talk about Frodo enough, about everything he lost in this and the strength he showed.
      I guess for some people it's just strength=waving a sword around, and therefore they don't really appreciate Frodo.

    • @sendpie6565
      @sendpie6565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@baguettegott3409 yes, everyone is strong in their own way but without Frodo, Middle Earth 100% would have fell. He shouldered all of that and left at the end, wounded but not broken, looking for a different kind of peace. Such an inspiration 👏👏👏😭💖

  • @PJSO
    @PJSO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My family watches this every Xmas. I will definitely continue it when I am old and grey.

  • @Skeptic_Tank
    @Skeptic_Tank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ive watched the charge speech 100 times. When the music kicks in and everyone is charging. Omg. Instant tears of amazement.
    Btw if you want to experience that in gameplay. Shadow of war. Play it!

    • @mrhalfwit972
      @mrhalfwit972 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      may not be canon, may be fucky with some things, but the game is GLORIOUS.

  • @tawmydukes
    @tawmydukes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sauruman roasting Theoden to Ether is fucking money. I love you guys.

  • @bodacious117
    @bodacious117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was going to be so upset if y’all didn’t mention the rohirrim charge.. that scene is so epic

  • @BlueFoxXT
    @BlueFoxXT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't watched this video yet but I wanted to say I've bene watching these podcasts for a couple years now, found back on the GoT rewatches leading up to the final seasons. Stuck with the channel and love the way Bo keeps discussion on track and the flavorful dissections Aaron makes. Also really loved Aaron's Deconstruction of Goodfellas video and hope to see more content like that. I regrefully can't afford to throw patreon money but hope commenting boosts the algorithm at least. Thanks Nerd Soup for the good content

  • @baguettegott3409
    @baguettegott3409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved your take on this, on almost every single aspect - great video.
    I wish you didn't include the clip from the final scene of Sam coming home though, because now I'm (literally) crying and I'm supposed to be studying calculus right now xD

  • @julianivanov1139
    @julianivanov1139 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    yo the ether beat over saruman's monologue is pure genius lmfaoo

  • @LaughtersHouse
    @LaughtersHouse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If Pippin or Merry got a hold of the ring they would definitely turn Smeagol-like. See how tempted they were to the fireworks...and the orb

    • @Sommerlath2006
      @Sommerlath2006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But they were kind at heart by nature, I don’t think you could say the same about Smeagol. Then again, that’s just my opinion.

    • @Dman9fp
      @Dman9fp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sommerlath2006 So was Frodo and it corrupted him and scarred him for life. Tolkien knew hell was full of good intentions gone wrong, just look at Boromir's case/ tragic fall

  • @jurassicsavage9370
    @jurassicsavage9370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Either Lotr is a masterpiece or you're wrong.

  • @darthplagueis8886
    @darthplagueis8886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best line, Aragorn: "My friends(to the hobits), you bow to no one" and then everyone proceeds to bow to the hobits.

    • @tonyiommi2380
      @tonyiommi2380 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The music that sets in is like going through the gates of heaven

  • @mysound6983
    @mysound6983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hahaha i knew Bo will remind us that he is a "speech guy"
    love it!

  • @-MrFozzy-
    @-MrFozzy- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ‘You filth’ is just infinitely versatile as an insult...I use it almost daily

  • @MrMrMayday
    @MrMrMayday 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite small surprise in the movie was that the hand in the water grabbing the ring was NOT Smeagol.

  • @LuluLaRue
    @LuluLaRue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "It's the Dwarves that go swimming with little hairy women"
    Always loved this Jaws wink

  • @Disappearit
    @Disappearit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just saw this in the theatres again tonight. So cool that they brought it back at my local movie spot for a weekend!
    Almost 20 years later
    Still so amazing 🔥🔥

  • @baguettegott3409
    @baguettegott3409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just one thing: Sam having to kill Frodo? Jesus Christ, do you have no heart??
    Seriously though, I am 100% sure he would not have been able to do that. Maybe dying with Frodo together, as in fall into lava together. Maybe.
    What a horrific ending that would be. Them dying arm in arm on the rock would have been bad enough!

    • @Dman9fp
      @Dman9fp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely would not have happened. In the book Sam is Frodo's loyal servant, in the movies it's like a close equal friendship. And if Sam could must up enough anger or rage kill Frodo somehow, he'd just take the ring for himself anyways

    • @TangoNevada
      @TangoNevada 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dman9fp *Muster - But yeah, if Tolkien when for a GOT's type of ending then it would have been Sam rushing into Frodo and taking them both over the edge. But there is a difference between when the books were written and when the movies were made. When the books were written this shit was original and there was no need to break stereotypes of Fantasy Movies. Because they didn't exist yet.

  • @oooSKYLIGHTooo
    @oooSKYLIGHTooo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    legit caught myself crying when you covered Sam & Frodo at Mount Doom and Frodo traveling to the undying lands :,)

  • @ikigaiWellnessLLC
    @ikigaiWellnessLLC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just read the books, which were incredible, and am now watching the extended editions for the first time. After seeing the extended Fellowship, I can safely say that I am even more excited to see the rest. Such a fan!!!

    • @Dman9fp
      @Dman9fp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Extended addition doesn't really add much to fellowship imo but makes the other 2 even better

  • @Andrew04291
    @Andrew04291 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was Sam who said ‘I don’t think there will be a return journey”; it was him acknowledging the futility of optimism after being so encouraging earlier.

  • @LuluLaRue
    @LuluLaRue 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great painting in the animation!
    "I like this one. One dog goes one way and the other goes the other.
    And this guy's saying, "Whaddya want from me?" The guy's got a nice head of white hair. Beautiful."

  • @duta6388
    @duta6388 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a coincidence, I'm currently watching the whole trilogy again right now. So good! Don't know if everyone else kept thinking about GoT the whole time, especially during Two Towers and this.

  • @Morevids101
    @Morevids101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to watch these every year till about 2 years. But now watching this I think I might restart that tradition

  • @ohifonlyx33
    @ohifonlyx33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine your movie winning best cinematography up against ROTK. On one hand you want to brag that you beat LOTR. But on the other hand, you can't because you know you only won because LOTR already won it twice in the previous 2 years and this was a bone they threw you out of pity because LOTR was TOO good.
    ETA: if you wanted Sam to throw Frodo into the fire, you're missing the deeper themes of the story--like the self-destructive nature of evil and a friend that pulls you out of it. Yes, there's a moment where it may have come to that, but it never even crossed my mind that Sam would kill Frodo.

    • @similarrose5811
      @similarrose5811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. For me Sam’s purpose & motivation was never to save the world from the Ring, but to save Frodo.

  • @x25xMPx25x
    @x25xMPx25x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That loiter squad reference tho

  • @ajiananapier25
    @ajiananapier25 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:02 my favorite shot too the camera work was insane

  • @noahr4951
    @noahr4951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The webbing is terrifying. It's so thick and sticky looking.

    • @kevinw712
      @kevinw712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think she'd eaten a lot of asparagus that week. or, eaten a lot of orcs who'd eaten a lot of asparagus.

  • @Tadaia
    @Tadaia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding Boromir and Faramir’s dad, the Steward of Gondor... he wasn’t so much a bad guy. The palantir had him turned out and twisted. Recall Gandalf’s warnings about them.

  • @GinnyFan765
    @GinnyFan765 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Legolas!”
    Legolas’s pupils dilate like he’s going into Iron Giant murder mode.

  • @justineharper3346
    @justineharper3346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is this considered the worst one? It has so many amazing moments that make me ugly cry every time. "I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you."? "How about dying side by side with a friend"? "My friends, you bow to no one."?
    "I am no man"? ( I actually named my daughter Eowyn because she's such a kickass character). There are just so many amazing moments. Its definitely the most quotable film. This is actually tied with Return of the Jedi as my favorite film ever

  • @indieokee
    @indieokee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find the "I am no man" line surprisingly deep, actually. Like,
    "Well, I coudn't care less about your fancy prophecies.
    They are not even written with overlooked people like women in mind, actually.
    I'm not worthy of prophecy.
    And that is exactly why you are completely fucked now."

  • @monkeymox2544
    @monkeymox2544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always felt that the Smeagol scene at the start of the film was a bit weak, because he had more-or-less the same mannerisms, speech patterns and voice as he has centuries later. Its true that in the book, Gandalf has Smeagol adapting some of those speech patterns in his account of the history of the ring, but given that he wasn't actually there and there's no reason to think there would have been a written record of what Smeagol actually said to Deagol, its safe to assume that he was just repeating Gollum's own account verbatim. In any case, on-screen I feel it doesn't come across very well. I would have preferred to see that Smeagol was essentially normal before the ring ensnared him, rather than basically the same but with a different physical appearance.

  • @the_naturenerd
    @the_naturenerd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your content dudes!! you should def revisit the Hobbit movies, but you should also revisit Waterworld w/ Kevin Costner. It's the 25th anniversary of its release. Cult Classic (Starship Troopers also)!! Keep up the good work!

  • @trequor
    @trequor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:05 HOLY TITS that is such a good point! The casting in this movie is so fucking meta... like Aragorn too was recast in a last minute attempt to save the story.

  • @nastrael
    @nastrael 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the books, at the end of Theoden's speech he blows a horn so hard it explodes.

  • @TheLararms09
    @TheLararms09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Oh it’s just like when I had to finish the mile”
    “Yeah...I’m sure it’s just like that”
    I don’t know why, but I laughed for like 5 minutes lol.

  • @Somegoy
    @Somegoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My childhood love. These movies showed me what loyalty truly is. Star wars had a killer original trilogy, but nothing compares.

  • @isiragxl8289
    @isiragxl8289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh snap I totally forgot you existed . I watched all the Game of Thrones way back, that's how I found you in the first place. This video just got recommended, so I guess it's time to catch up on the video's!

  • @Righteous1_89
    @Righteous1_89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahaha at the ether instrumental when saruman ripping Rohan A+

  • @alba279
    @alba279 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    SUCH A GOOD MOVIE! Great review guys

  • @AdamAdam-md4mi
    @AdamAdam-md4mi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This isn't the least positivity regarded of the three. 😂 Two Towers is. This one is the most critically acclaimed of the three. Regardless, this is a great review and helps getting through quarantine.

    • @bradv1335
      @bradv1335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm going to guess that they were talking about the extended editions, which the third is a little rough around the edges.

  • @yaymanyayman6892
    @yaymanyayman6892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Frodo got the ring on his birthday

  • @spottsswood9828
    @spottsswood9828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here’s the comment you were searching for. Since they’re fitted for war, the elephants are called Mumakill.

  • @mattkrause1573
    @mattkrause1573 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    " If see a nazgul I'd slit my own throat"
    Died laughing

  • @Erni3K
    @Erni3K 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blond Karl Urban. And his boss sister. Who is no man, DAMN. Thanks for the push to watch them again.

  • @niloalmero
    @niloalmero 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How I wish I could watch it again for the first time.

  • @patriot459
    @patriot459 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice my soup got here in time for lunch.

  • @andrewq890
    @andrewq890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “Shhhmegol”

  • @TheTombree
    @TheTombree 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing with the eagles in the end. 3 of them one for Frodo, one for Sam and the last one was for smeagol :'( took me 17 years but hey redemption arc

  • @Sactown15
    @Sactown15 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm excited for your review of Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood

  • @darthfall275
    @darthfall275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you guys want some more epic fantasy, ya'll should watch Avatar The Last Airbender. Don't be fooled by TV-Y rating, it is one of the greatest tv shows of all time according to IMDb

    • @NerdSoup
      @NerdSoup  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We're planning to review it!

    • @darthfall275
      @darthfall275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NerdSoup the whole thing at once?

    • @The810kid
      @The810kid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beau already watched it and said season 2 brought him to tears.

    • @darthfall275
      @darthfall275 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@The810kid "Leaves from the vine..."

  • @jessmith7324
    @jessmith7324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should have kept the Eomer scene at the camp. It was truth and hard hitting and also adds to his sister's moment she overcame all of that

  • @AE24N
    @AE24N 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My best to least is 1.Fellowship of the Ring 2. Return of the King 3. Two Towers

  • @RepublicOfBridger
    @RepublicOfBridger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like Soups back on the menu BOYS!

  • @Flameauxx
    @Flameauxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! FINALLY!

  • @EnricoMatassaVenture
    @EnricoMatassaVenture 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta say I laughed when they showed Teddy as the partner for the worst job. Love ya Teddy!

  • @tjjordan4207
    @tjjordan4207 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of the few films where I believe the Extended Cut is the definitive version.
    Plus, Return of the King (and also Avatar The Last Airbender) is proof that a predictable ending isn’t a bad thing.

  • @travensweetsir3164
    @travensweetsir3164 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this video high is amazing 😂

  • @LoLHUBB3DG
    @LoLHUBB3DG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hyped for Castlevania review

  • @Hemzees
    @Hemzees 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cersei Lannister is probably watching this with a big grin on her face....LMAO had me in stitches.

  • @BurazSC2
    @BurazSC2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Three eagles at the end...the 3rd for Smeagol. *cries*

  • @randomsleepyness
    @randomsleepyness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching this immediately after watching Killians video on the return of the king. Hilarious.