What Case Size Should You Buy???
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.พ. 2017
- In this video we explore how case sizes matter in the current context of 2017. The enclosure market is quietly changing with everything slowly becoming more space efficient and compact, so what size should your next case be?
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MID TOWERS
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Phanteks P400 TG - geni.us/c9gSY
be quiet! Pure Base 600 - geni.us/eUL
Cooler Master 5T - geni.us/F4W4
Corsair 400C - geni.us/YsxDRf7
Corsair 460X RGB - geni.us/ok0Vs
Fractal Define C - geni.us/UhUCIO
Fractal Define mini-C - geni.us/PXfx
ITX:
Fractal Design NANO S - geni.us/AvG1l3
Cooler Master SG13 - geni.us/36fWvk
Cougar QBX - geni.us/X6iB
NZXT Manta - geni.us/SOIxb
Silverstone RVZ02 - geni.us/dfZ3DT
Fractal Design Node 202 - geni.us/m2hj
Corsair 250D - geni.us/tJEf
FULL TOWERS
be quiet! Dark Base 900 Pro - geni.us/h8JfyM
Corsair 760T - geni.us/8lotGWB
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe - geni.us/AR2789O
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I completely agree with your assessment on WHY most are going after Mid Tower cases but would add another reason.....desk space. Why? Most who spend alot on their machines want to show them off. How do you do that? Place them ON the desk instead of under right? That being said, no one wants a HUGE desk because most of the time we dont have the space for one and so desk space comes at a premium. We still want to show off our desktops without losing that desk space and thats another reason for going Mid or ITX.
Good point!
or your like me and your desk is to small to fit both you pc and peripherals...
mATX for life :D
Benyamin Lorit ATX POWER !!
EATX Ubermensch
unfortunately there's like no fucking cases for mATX :(
protostar The Fractal Design Mini C is one of the 4 cases in this video??? That's mATX?
protostar The Fractal Design Mini C is one of the 4 cases in this video??? That's mATX?
thank you dimitri, i was waiting so long for this. a great video as always
I really appreciate the extra trouble you take to make all of your videos so dustfree. It is especially evident whenever we watch other computer videos and see all the dust on the keyboards, desks, cases, and yours are almost pristine. Very professional.
I build myself a mini itx system last week to replace my old mATX build. The PC has everything I need in the Fractal core 500 with GTx 1060 and i5 7600.
I had mitx node 304 and 4770k with water aio cooler and gtx 780 back in the day. The problem from the start were temps, even when fans at max speed. Not any room for overclocking, but it ran fine for a year. Until cpu somehow fried. No idea why. Anyway then i bought new atx case, new cpu and added another gtx 780 in SLI and voila!
Cpu overclocked, two open air gpus and no problems what so ever!
Personally, i am never going back to mitx. Atx for me all the way.
Let me be honest with y'all: if you DON'T NEED space, do not buy a BIG CASE. Trust me, I regret buying such a big case and not needing all this space.
BaSkA Same here. when I built my first computer I put it in the biggest case I could find...
I didn't get a huge case, but it could have definitely been smaller... and take less space of my already small room/desk/life.
Seriously. That's some good advice. My mATX is plenty big, I wish it was about half the size actually. An ATX case wouldn't fit very well in my car unless I budgie it to the seats or in the trunk, as it is, I sandwich it between the front and rear seats so it doesn't wiggle.
If I had an ATX, I would have to make part of it a cabinet for storing food, because even this one takes up enough space (ironic, because I had a bag of cereal stored in my case today, and I might use the drive bay areas to store a couple cans of soup... It would actually be convenient living in my small dorm).
I bought a Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra and could not be happier myself. I remember having to keep cable management pristine to allow for easy access to the videocards and drive bays with an older case otherwise nothing would fit anywhere. Now I am rocking a 4 GPU and 9 Hard Drive GPU rendering workstation and still have upgrade options. On the other hand, a friend of mine heard how much I liked this case and wanted to buy one himself without telling me what he wanted to do with it first so I could talk him out of it.
In the end I got called over to his place after he had ordered all of the parts online, an mATX setup, and the big honking case towering over him on the table. Demanding to know what the hell he was going to do with it, looking at it in sheer disbelief as if he were seeing it for the first time, every time. In the end he returned it and I helped him pick out a generic ATX case that seemed good enough.
I think the perfect case is the nzxt s340, i love how minimalistic and nice looking it is, and how it covers the power supply and those cables for a cleaner and more organized look, it just is amazing in my opinion
Great video. I appreciate the amount of filming, editing and voice over it took to make this video.
I part way through changing from Corsair Obsidian 800d to 900d but I'm going from a single loop to a dual loop system.
I plan on building a small watercooled system for my wife later in the year so will probably go itx for that.
When I built my first PC 1,5 years ago i fell in love with the Corsair 780t in white. When I first saw this one I knew i had to buy it for my build and I stil don't regret it, even tho it's a very expensive case. Sometimes i feel like a smaller case would have been better but hey.. I still love it! Buy what you like and love, hence you have to watch it every day! :)
Ah ! I felt in love with 780t as well. Too bad there is not such case between the 380t and the 780t. Corsair can do a successful case with that.
The 780t is for me the most beautiful case. Love it!
Ah men, in November 2015 I built a top the line PC and I bought a Corsair 780t too ^^ I fell in love with that case. Today I don't have it anymore, and I can't find it used ;(
Buily my first system in a Phanteks Evolv ITX, and then transplanted everything into the Fractal Design Node 202. Love the amount of desk space that has been freed up.
Your video quality is improving insanely fast keep up the good work
My family lives in China and I study in UK. So I just built an ITX system with 7700K and 1060 (machine not only for gaming but also for productivity and server hosting). This way I have the option to pack my entire system into my luggage and carry it back home during long holidays. The enthoo evolv itx isn't exactly a small chassis, but it strikes a good balance between being small enough to fit inside my luggage, and being spacious enough to accommodate for my drives and other hardware.
Simon Cheng do u put the itx inside ur checked in luggage or the one u bring onboard the cabin? I'm om a dilemma
I used packing foam to fill in the empty space in the chassis (to protect my GPU and CPU cooler) and put it in my checked luggage. I would recommend using cloth as dampening material so that your case doesn't get damaged from being tossed around. I did take out the HDDs to carry onboard though.
Still my favorite Case, the Phanteks Enthoo Luxe. Its so Glorious!
I believe with how easy it's now become to build your own PC, and with less & less need for optical drives many more people are going to start building their own a lot more often. Also, as peoples lifestyles are leaning towards downsizing we're going to see a massive upsurge in micro & mini builds. I'd love for you to follow up like you had mentioned & see just where PC case sales sit, because I also believe the change is coming
Started full tower with Phanteks Enthoo Luxe, and then got tired of it's size even though the case was awesome. Then I got the Fractal Design Define S and loved how it was smaller, but found that there was lots of unused watercooling space (I use an AIO), then finally got to the S340 Elite and finally hit a sweet spot with no other compromises and have not regretted that.
I planned to go the mATX route, as it still offers moderate expansion but isn't bulky. I currently have a Mastercase 5 Pro. It has handles but the case itself is way too heavy in my opinion.
Basti378 if we get better matx boards...
When will be the Phanteks P400 Tempered Glass edition look and review will be coming...
The P400S TG would be better since quieter and only a tad bit more expensive than the non S version.
Patrik Radelj in europe its almost 30 euro difference between non S and S
Gh0st SK I live in the EU and this is fake news. Sorry but you are wrong it's only a 10-5 € diff.
Well in my country its almost 30 euro difference xD
Gh0st SK then you live in a poor country
About time...I was looking for this kind of video.
Another awesome vid!
I chose the corsair air 240, a cube case that I could fit in a tiny nook back when I was living in an apartment. I chose it because it was the most compact mATX case with the greatest room for expansion. As time has gone by I really don't think I will be replacing it any time soon. I personally find that ATX builds mid or full have too many features for my needs and in the process, their size feels wasted. ITX don't have enough for me no matter how much I adore their absolute minimal footprint. If I could, I would definitely go smaller. but the mATX cube case is perfect for me.
Mini ITX is all I need.
2 SATA drives, 1 NVMe slot, full size GTX 980, BluRay drive because "I can", built in BT+Wifi and I was able to bring everything from US on a plane.
What else can I ask for?
tell me more about this mini ITX that had an optical drive. I can't find any.
@@SuperWolfkin Ncase M1 has one for slot loading, but I afaik they don't make those cases anymore.
@@nahkaThe Ncase M1 is just released in batches due to the low demand, and they sell out very quickly. They've released the new V6 recently.
@@SuperWolfkin Some older models include space for optical drives, but they're getting harder to find.
Lian Li's Tu-100 "ammo box" supports a slimline drive, but cooling your CPU could be a challenge in this cramped enclosure. I also think this model's been discontinued.
Corsair's cubic 250D stretches the definition of SFF at a little larger than a Thermaltake Core V1, but can fit your two slot GPU, ATX PSU, 240 AIO, full size ODD, two each 2.5" and 3.5", and your hopes and dreams - if you can find one anymore. Tragically they appear to be discontinued, as trying to find one at the start of this year was nearly impossible.
The Cougar QBX that the Canucks looked at in a previous video also supports a slot loader, larger GPUs, and a 92mm tower CPU cooler, but fitting an AIO could be annoying.
The Ncase M1 mentioned by Nahka and Captain Fabulous above me is also an awesome option ... if you can afford it and catch one during one of their limited production runs.
Annoyingly for those of us who still want to run optical but downsize our computers, ODD support is often pruned to make these chassis smaller.
I am curious which case you used to build this system, because it seems some of us want one.
Really nice video! Keep it up the good work! ;)
My first build, which I did about a month ago, was done with the Node 202 from Fractal Design, very nice little case that does have fairly good air flow without any case fans. It's an ITX case and I'm happy with it, looks good, it's black, was fairly easy to put the parts in, cable management was a bit rough, but I did it.
Including the case and built in PSU, the total hardware price was $600 as I went with a $80 motherboard from Asrock with fairly positive reviews, an i3 6100, a GTX 1050, and 2 4gb(8b total) DDR4 ram. For storange just got a 240gb SSD.
I didn't need it to be compact, I just really liked how the Node 202 looked which added about $100 to the total. As someone who mainly just plays one game, I didn't need a ton of storage, just enough for that game and a few others I may play later on.
Overall, perfect for my needs. Only reason I'd need to build a new PC is if I feel like in 5 years this fails to meet my needs.
And when I do, I'll probably grab a midtower case... eh, I got a bit carried away, sorry. Oh well, here's a link to the pcpartpicker: pcpartpicker.com/user/Qwaiii/saved/np7pgs
You know what i miss the most on recent full towers? Front drive bays. I have a HAF 932, front drive bays are populated by a dvd burner, card reader, fan controler, vfd media display and a little set of switches i made to control the lights inside, If i were to transfer all these equipment to most of the modern, "not gamer" looking full towers in the market, i would probably have to give up on almost everything. since most of the cases rarely have more than 2 bays up front. Seriously, if i'm buying full tower, i'm buying it because i want usable space.
"but ultra towers have what you need...", yeah, i heard that before, but they are also twice the price budget i'm looking for, and twice the footprint i'm willing to work on.
I'm still all about full tower cases as well and am actuallt currently looking to get the Phanteks Enthoo Primo to do my first water cooled build in.
I could watch this dude talk about cases for the rest of my life.
Just what I was looking to be answered
Great video
My current build is housed in a Corsair Graphite 600T. I love the case. Its on the larger end of the mid-tower scale, so its nice and roomy to work in with excellent cable management. It's not a box. I like that someone actually designed the exterior, as opposed to just looking at a shipping package and saying, "Yep, that'll do." for design, yet isn't an overwrought silly looking thing like some "gaming" cases are.
Importantly, it has 5.25" drive bays. It's annoying that so many new cases don't come with these. Yes, we're going digital, but I has a legacy CD/DVD drive for watching movies, hard copy software, or if I need to burn a disc. Plus I use another bay for my NZXT card reader and a third has a storage drawer. Seriously, having a place to keep a few USB cables, flash drives, and my 2200 mAh power back when space on my metal/glass desk is at a premium is wonderful.
Really, its only downsides are small window and lack of a "showcase" location for SSD. A little creative engineering with the drive pedestal and a Corsair SSD mount fixed that.
iTX cases are cool, but I would one if I were building some sort of media machine, as I like the room and cooling potential of a mid or full tower case. If ever I replace this Corsair or build another machine, it would likely be mid-tower as they're the best balance of space and size, especially now as you discussed. With that said, that Panzer MAX looks really interesting and in that shot it really didn't look that much bigger than the Master Case 5T, so it doesn't seem outrageously sized. I hope you review it.
Not the best organization. I would start based on your requirements...
1. Where is the PC physically going to be? (Under your desk, on your desk, under a monitor, in a cabinet, do you move around a lot, etc.)
2. What is the PC going to do? (Home, gaming, basic productivity, media box, media network, development, databases, etc.)
3. How much time/effort are you going to spent on the build?
I see little reason to spend time on a mini-ITX case if it is going to sit under a desk which has tons of room. I see little reason to look at a full-sized tower if it is supposed to sit behind a TV and run Netflix all day. I see little reason to look at a mini-ITX case if you are trying to run a video editing company and have massive storage, power, and rendering issues.
I want to point out about the temperature for P400 as I have one myself...the reason P400 runs hotter is due to the air being drawn. Unlike Define C and S340 or any other case which the dust filters sit right infront of the fan while the P400 does not. The Dust filter is very far away from the fan and resulted choking the fan as no direct fresh air, the fan could be drawing air existing within the chassis. What I did to make my case being cooler in temp is to remove the stock dust filter and bought magnetic fan filters from Silverstone and place it right infront of them and resulted cooler in temperature as the setup is no difference with any other case.
Thank you, your comment is very helpful since I was thinking the other day whether a filter directly in front of the fan or far away from it is better. I concluded it was the former since the suction is created immediately in front of the fan to overcome the filter's resistance, and your comment confirms my guess.
Always love your stastics!! :)
Still relevant in 2020, good job!
having a optical drive is still a must in computers. I don't care what anyone elese say's. because im not going to go online for all my program/ software needs. I still prefer using optical disk.
I hear ya there, as I recently bought a USB TV tuner for my main PC, and the only drivers I could get to work with it on Windows 10 came on the CD in the box, as the newer driver for download makes Windows think it's a different model revision, and my TV tuner software won't render a proper picture even with all the correct codecs installed.
Thats where usb disc readers come in handy though. On the rare occasion i need to use a disc, i just plug it in and i'm good to go!
Well eatherway it goes im sticking to Optical drives no matter what. Because it is just better in everyday, and more secured to my appenion.
@@rueagonvyceratops2879 ok boomer
I haven't seen anyone do a review of the updated p400 with glass yet
HedHuntr25 i have it and it is very beautiful and money saving^^
john hurts great case. Mine comes with an led strip.
The P400S TG would be better since quieter and only a tad bit more expensive than the non S version.
Patrik Radelj ive got the p400s tg but the silence texture is less performant than the be quiet one and the after market ones. So i suggest u to buy the p400 tg and do a silence mod^^
No that would be stupid the S version is superior.
For my first ever build I am going with the Phanteks Enthoo Luxe ATX Full Tower, just love everything on it and liked the review you have done on it!! 💪😎
I love the prologue cases line up, Love your videos Dmitry warm regards from Indonesia
Last time I as this early AMD's CPUs were irrelevant
bulletZ_ they will be
+H Ironic how they ARE relevant at the moment. Currently waiting for #Ryzen5 so I don't have to spend a fortune on overpriced Intel CPU's. Looks like AMD is showing them that Price to performance IS important in marketing, as well as price for a newer AMD CPU compared to an older Intel CPU that is $400+ for some fucking reason.
(COUGH) The 4790K.
Its Neight - MSRP's $1000 FX 9590, $1500 R9 Pro Duo, $650 R9 Nano.....
Its Neight I guess we're ignoring the benchmarks that people like Linus got to test physically and hands on? This shit didn't fucking rhappen yestetday. Props for AMD for letting them even touch on that personally. Also, remember, they use a much lower TDP, which indicates lower temp. These factors are RELATIVE, and I don't think they need any further proving until R5 and R3.
***** True, but they quickly took note and reduced the price massively.
can you do a review of the phanteks p400 tempered glass edition soon?
The P400S TG would be better since quieter and only a tad bit more expensive than the non S version.
Why are you cntrl C cntrl V ing?
Great video!
WOW!
They all look good!
I'm gonna get one in each size!
Dont know what case size to get? I'll give you the rundown.
So, when you start looking for cases most people are going to recommend ATX, mainly because that's all most PC builders know what to work with and will tell you it gives you better airflowand therefore better cooling. But let's be honest, components have lower TDP's these days, and having more space for air to pass through isn't going to make much of a difference anymore, maybe 5°c difference at idle when comparing an ATX vs Mini-ITX with the same specs. They'll also probably recommend you the NZXT S340 because why the fuck not, everyone has one so you might as well have one too.
Then you've got people who recommend m-ATX. Objectively the best case size and the case that experienced builders will probably choose. Much smaller and looks way better on your desk. Usually supports a dual SLI setup (don't know why anyone wants to do SLI or crossfire these days anyway, but it's there if you want it) and if you care about airflow, again it's there with m-ATX.
Then you've got Mini-ITX. For either the hipster builders, or those who really want a challenge. The second smallest form factor right next to STX and the most travel friendly case, light and can fit into most suitcases. Little airflow but again, there's little difference at idle compared to an ATX setup with modern specs. But if you're really worried about temperatures, some cases support AIO water coolers, and there are some amazing ITX cpu coolers out there.
Then there's the weird case sizes;
STX: Used for office work and home media PC's. NOT for gaming under any circumstance. Incredibly rare and kind of pointless since everyone uses laptops for work now. But it's there if you want it I guess?
E-ATX: Either for the rich or those trying to compensate for something, though the latter are usually wealthy too. Usually for custom watercooling loops and SLI setups because rich people don't have to worry about Nvidia being too expensive.
So there you have it! :)
Addendum.
Back in the day (when I started building PCs at least) ATX had a valuable place, and the advice was "Midtower for life".
Because back then we used expansion cards extensively.
I have a 2008 era system loaded to bear with cards. Capture card, sound card (integrated died), network card (integrated died), wifi card (didn't have one built in), modem (because I still used those back then), and still had room for a contemporary single-slot GPU to breathe.
These days, you can get an mATX that has room for your massive dual slot GPU, and still have room for an expansion card.
Modern systems have a lot of integrated options, and those integrated components appear to be more reliable than what I was dealing with in the 2000s where losing your onboard sound and network were expected and routine, which makes mATX and ITX a lot more viable.
My mATX build uses an iGPU, but I have space to add a dGPU if I want one, and a wifi card.
Both of my ITX systems go extensively integrated. One uses its iGPU, the other only has a dGPU as its solitary expansion option.
Would building a matx for beginner hard?
im gont matx plus matx case options look really good! (talking about the dlm21)
next build is most likely gonna be an amd itx build. its the size of a console plus freesync monitors are way cheaper than gsync
I didn't even know my monitor has freesync when I bought it, it's THAT cheap.
just got the notification about the video. While I was already watching it. great
I've been using full towers but am definitely switching to mid tower with next build. I'm currently in the old Cooler Master CM Stacker, and it's just way too big and bulky. Your video covers the reasons why perfectly. The extra space is just not needed for cooling these days and the footprint the case takes up is just too big when I can fit the exact build in a smaller case. Leaning towards the Fractal Design Meshify.
i have TheTower 900 SUPER TOWER lmao its HUGE
Make a separate video on the p400 TG dammit
The P400S TG would be better since quieter and only a tad bit more expensive than the non S version.
I'm going for the Fractal R5 for my first build. Seems like a great size case with plenty of room for potential upgrades down the line.
Thanks to you I went with the Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Tempered glass. I am in love with it. Next step is water cooling.
I still need an optical drive for games and system recovery tho..
How about now?
do most builds really need a full-size ATX board? it seems that mATX really should be the sweet spot since most of the time people are running single GPU setups.
Well it depends what you need. If you just want a single graphics card and one other card, mATX is fine. If you want options ATX is good.
You know you can run dual GPUs on a mATX system right? My last 2 rigs were dual 980 in mATX cases. It's not even particularly difficult either. The only reason I went bigger with my latest build was the aesthetics of the case. If there was a mATX version, I would have stuck with that size.
big cases = better
It's not the size that counts. It's how you use it.
where you gonna fit LED's into the picture?
Nice comparison video, lots of information with concise editing, like all of your videos. I am leaning toward a mid tower case that will accept a 360mm radiator such as the TR4 water cooler , and EATX motherboard for my next build.
I would definitely go smaller for my next build. I just built my first mATX computer and it is way bigger than I thought it was going to be. I think it would be a fun challenge to organize all my parts into a small mini ITX case, and I believe it would have a rewarding feeling of fitting so much power into a small space. The only thing I would be worried about are thermals and future expansion.
Yo can we get some love for mATX anytime soon? I think it strikes the perfect balance between ITX size (but lack of expansion), and mATX ease of building (but with an unnecessary amount of PCI slots)
Have a look here: smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/kimera-industries-cerberus-the-18l-matx-usa-made-enclosure.454/
Notification squad where you at?!!
When I built my system in August 2016, I chose the Fractal Design Define S. Beautiful case, clean, and still has room to add a custom water cooling loop, multiple GPUs, and various storage options. Mine has 1 SSD, 1 GPU, and a CORSAIR H100i v2. Overkill of a case, I know.
About 2 weeks ago, I built a system for my brother using the Fractal Design Mini C, and, I fell in love. So much, that I've been thinking about replacing my Define S and ATX motherboard :)
I've always thought it was in my best interest to use a large case "just in case" (no pun intended), and for future-proofing. But going forward, I think my future builds will focus more in the mATX form factor. ITX is too small, and full towers are just too big for my needs.
You just reminded me how much i want one of the Nzxt Hyperbeasts, it looks so sick, colorful and just freakin' amazing dude, i hope i could get one some day...
Our needs shift away from needing storage space? What. SSDs are still far to expensive especially if you've already got a few TB of files that you need access too. The storage options on recent cases are absolutely pathetic. By all means, enable people to install water coolers, but damn, at least find a creative solution to allow us to keep our HDD drives.
Filip Hendrik Preach 👍👍
i'd say 95 percent of all users won't need more than a 500 gig ssd boot drive and 2 4 TB HDDs. it's not like you need 8 160 gig drives in your system anymore. HDDs are available in huge capacities these days, and people who hoard more than 10 TB of data are a very small fraction of users, even among enthusiasts. and still, you could get twice that amount in just 2 drives, or 3 drives if you want it to be a little cheaper.
i get it that you need more drive space in your personal system, but you are the exception here, not the rule. compact size and good cooling are more important to most people as long as you can mount at least 2 HDDs
Filip Hendrik how many drives you need?
That's why i have a modded Phantom 820 for my main computer and will soon transition my secondary into the same. I have removed all but 1 5.25" drive bay, added the 2 of the hdd bays from the switch 810 with the 140mm fan mounts. 6 hdds, 4 ssds, 1 odd, 1060mm radiator space and a 250mm reservoir(I think, it may be a 270mm, I never can remember).
Just get a 10TB HDD, then a boot SSD/M.2?
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I went from a mid size Case (Thermaltake V9 Blacx) to a Full Size InwinGR-one (white) as I wanted more room for easier installation of components. The In win allows removal of the Hard Drive bays to allow better air flow. The V9 case was more focussed on Exhaust than In-take with only being room for a 120mm fan upfront and a 220mm roof mount and 120mm Rear exhaust fan where as the GR-one has room for 10 fans in total all being 140mm.. So a full size case does allow for more fans for more cooling without needing to go the water cooling path.
nice video! i have the s340 elite and i kinda like matx/its cases but i thought as a first time builder ill go with a standard mid tower build!
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I fell for this shit 8 times thinking i was just pressing the wrong thing
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Rootzy's Tech. I fell for it.
Rootzy's Tech ... lmao!!! I clicked on it 6 times!!!
I'm an mATX as it offers the most options at various price ranges, does not take up a ton of space on my desk, and still allows me to fit all the hardware I need inside, but I still build with 1 Blu-Ray/DVD-RW drive in my system so I don't have to dig out my USB 3.0 2.5in Blu-Ray/DVD-RW drive when say burning an ISO to a DVD/CD that won't work on a USB thumb drive, or when I want to play one of my older PC titles I have on DVD/CD.
mini-itx cases are great if you want to place the thing in some restricted space, otherwise they're pretty much irrelevant to me.
What I look for when buying a case is cable routing options, the better a case can hide cables the more likely I'm going to buy it.
That being said, I still use optical drives and HDD, so I need at least 2 bays for optical drives and 2-3 cages for HDD.
I agree with you. Full tower cases are a throwback to the Antec 800 days of early 2000 when we needed larger cases to get more fans and decent air flow. Removing the 5/4 drive slots negates the need. Small cases look better and flow just as well.
I love my Phanteks Enthoo Evolv TG. Looks great, easy to work in. Best case I ever owned.
So good!
A full tower (original Phanteks Enthoo Pro) was nice for my first build - and then again when it became my first watercooling build. It gave me plenty of room to work with and really lay out where everything was to go. Now that I have the experience I think I'll trend towards smaller cases in general, and possibly even mATX. I did a mATX build for a friend a while ago (in the Thermaltake Core v21), and it was a lot of fun getting everything in cleanly.
That video ending with temperature comparisons was pretty useful
I think more people need to realise that they don't really need a midtower.
For most people SLI is out of the question and they only use an SSD (m.2 even) and maybe a harddrive (some even have a NAS).
That leaves them with a pretty empty case that requires fans to move air to the fans inside.
I think an ITX case with support for a 150-160mm long ATX PSU, a tower aircooler or 240mm rad and a long GPU is the sweetspot. I recently found the Lian Li PC-Q10 which is basically what I think most people need.
The specifications on their site are wrong, so you can actually fit a 150mm PSU (basically any EVGA G3 model), a long GPU (270mm+) and a 160mm tall air cooler. The only thing it is missing is support for larger AIOs, but not everyone likes them (mostly because the pumps can be quite noisy).
I'm late to finding this channel, but to add my take I've decided to make my first custom build with a phanteks evolv shift case. while i may be spending more for some water cooling than fans and have a potentially fun/challenging time routing cables, I think the smaller footprint is great as it means it can fit on my crowded desk no problem and be safely tucked away on the floor if needed. I really dig the small size of the itx cases that take a considerate mind to build in and don't suffer too much on the performance side (never mind some of their wonderfully unique case designs). A very rewarding build once finished.
I just got the p400s tempered glass edition, that case was a dream to build in and is ultra quiet... just remember to set the fans to low with the case button!
I use the eclipse P400 for my main rig. I used a full tower for my older build with an I7 920. Loved it but now I prefer the size of a mid tower. How times have changed. Good video dude!
This is exactly why I bought a Phanteks Enthoo Primo for my build. It has the best of both worlds with amazing radiator support and storage options. Yes it is large, but not too big. Honestly thinking about going with the Elite next time.
I've gone from large tower, to now wanting as small and compact as possible.
I'd like to see more, more compact mATX case options and even mini ITX case options.I'd also like to see more cases that use riser cards. also almost all mATX cases are tower type, like to see more slim type than can be mounted horizontal and or vertical.
I have a 900D from Corsair and I am very satisfied with it
I've been using a Fractal Design Core 3000 for a few years now and I'm very satisfied with it.
I'm in a Corsair 400c with a Cooler Master 212 Evo and i don't need more than that!! Awesome case. Though i would love to have an Evolv Atx like yours with the Nzxt Kraken X52. That's the ultimate aim for me! Love your vids! :)
I really like mine Corsair C70. It is big mid-tower with ton of room for everything you need.
Very informative
One of the main problems with itx builds however is that there is little support for these specific boards. Yes you have companies that make them but they often aren't made well unless you're paying upward of $200 for them and many times (personal experience) came DOA.
I'm fond of water-cooling. Personally, I'd like to see more mATX cases about the size of a mid tower, with really good water-cooling support. I'm currently using an E-ATX case that is really the size of a larger ATX mid tower. The Lian Li PC-O11.
i would definitely agree that full towers are going to the way side besides for full custom loops or like dual loop set ups. i have a nzxt phantom 630 windowed edition and i just ordered a phanteks eclipse p400 tg to replace it with my new build and i do not feel like im giving up on anything in doing so. of course my current build is long in the tooth at this point and this case compared to some now is pretty cramped.
New Med Case owner and this video made me feel really good about it, although I don't have the best cooling in my rig, maybe I can update it or find the desire to build my own with the great i7 7700 / GTX 1080 ti I have now!
Hey Dmitry. Thanks for your well produced videos.
Could you do a video featuring the best wall mounted cases so far? It's pretty hard to find good stuff about it. thanks and best regards Olli
I currently have a p400s, it's a pleasure to build in, quality is great, as for the price its an all around bang for buck with excellent quality materials! I plan on bumping up to an phanteks evolv so I can utilize an sli set up properly.
im thinkin about grabbin the p400s, looks solid all around
Love the video. I'll be building my first PC next year. I'm looking forward to a mid-tower build for sure. I simply cannot achieve my goals with an itx.
I've been running an mATX setup since I sold off my last Full Tower in 2009. Sometimes I find it cramped to work on but it works well and love the smaller space it needs. I wish there were some better options though for space, such as for cable management, perhaps something with an added 5th slot to accommodate a dual slot GPU for mATX SLI configs..
I'm still using my good'ol Tagan A+ Case El diablo Full Tower, i guess it will last forever i love that case 😁
I'm moving from a Corsair 750D to an NZXT S340 Elite. Mainly because over time I have grown to like compact designs and my aesthetics preferences have changed to favor NZXTs minimal style more. I want my case to be a show piece in my room and the 750D is just too big and open to really look pleasing. I'm also going from all black to white and black so The S340 will help bring in more white
Just got a CaseLabs S8S and I think it's about the perfect size. They are also teasing the Bullet BH8 (working title) that is coming soon. It's looking amazing.
I use a Phanteks Enthoo Pro, I just love having a big case and love Phanteks offerings in general
I'm using a Cougar Spike. I have very little space to put my rig and that chassis is just right. The only thing I don't have is cable management options but overall a pretty solid case.
This vid actually helps a lot for me right now. I currently have a Full tower sitting on my desk, but I'm thinking I'll downscale to a Mid or ITX case, so as to accommodate for larger monitors. I don't like keeping my Computer on the ground because of the carpet, and I'd like to showcase my build on my desk with a windowed side panel. So just thinking about what would work best with my current setup.
One that suits the application and is big enough for you to comfortably work inside when needed.
I am personally about to put together a completely new setup and I went with a mid-tower setup with the s340 elite as my tower of choice.
Have had a mid-tower for a very long time (the terrible Antec "Dustsucker" Ninehundred), and switched to a tiny mini-ITX a year ago, the Silverstone RVZ02 Windowless. I haven't regret the choice for a moment despite cooling being a bit more difficult and leaving something to be desired. I can now put it in my suitcase with screen and peripherals and take it to a LAN party easily, I can really recommend it. The case's price isn't even that bad and since I prefer a good PSU anyway, the premium on that would be the same for a full size one pretty much. (The Corsair SF600 is also a beast of a PSU!)
love your vids, is their a mid size case that also has a sd card slot as well ??
Well said sir!
Saw the Pander Max in the intro but I've never seen a review. is one coming?
I am very interested in swapping my ATX Enthoo for an mATX Enthoo, since the smaller size is more aesthetically pleasing for me and I am thinking about inveting in custom water cooling some time in the future. Having a big case with lots of lights is pretty cool, but more compact and minimalistic looks are becoming more and more appealing for me.