Lakey 6*3 vs Vandoren Jumbo Java T45
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- For those of you who may be cross-shopping these bright mouthpieces, here is a comparison of the Jumbo Java T45 from Vandoren and the 6*3 from Claude Lakey.
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I don watched you talk about the jumbo java for a year and was like “Jody Jazz is better” nope!! I’m rolling with Jumbo!! You’re the mouthpiece G.o.a.t out here in youtube verse!! 💯🙌🏽🤘🏽😎
I had a Lakey 7*3 for years. I found you could get a really wide range of tones on it, from subtone fuff-fuff-foos to laser bean ear-bleeders. The only down side was that I had to take the floor boards up and shave them down for reeds! Anything softer than a 3.5 and it became a very difficult beast to control - but nonetheless handy if you like burning calories while doing your long note practice. :)
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I have the same piece. Probably bought it in LA around 1990. I hadn't used it in years but pulled it out after I watched the video. It was my first serious jazz mouthpiece and it took me a long way. I too had to use some pretty thick reeds on it. Today I used a Rigotti 3. Wow was that bright! I use a 10Mfan Robusto 7 these days. Similar, but way more balanced and versatile.
Since I’m watching your channel I got this mouthpiece buying disease to the point that my wife is telling me that if instead of each mouthpiece you practiced one note you would have been someone by now! (lol...so true!) but anyway today I got my Claude Lakey 6*3 in the mail which I got it for a very reasonable price on eBay $59 CAD including a Rovner ligature both in very good condition and OMG this is a fantastic mouthpiece. You are absolutely right this mouthpiece to me sounds like best of both world you got your bottom end on the low register and enough brightness and power on higher registers with fantastic altissimo. I managed to hit some notes that never was able to do that before in altissimo register. This is a very under rated mouthpiece compare to other big names. Having said that I never tried Jumbo Java so I can’t compare these two but I have regular Vandoren Java T-45 which I also like a lot which is Ralph Bowen’s mouthpiece of choice.
I am looking to get a regular Vandoren Java in the future.
Your sound with the Java red 3# is way much better!! Congrats!!!!
Thanks
I play the tenor jumbo 45 and I'm thinking of switching to Lakey.
I play them on alto and soprano.
I switched from jumbo java to Lakey on alto and like it better.
From listening to your video they seem very close but the Lakey sounds a bit more controlled, if that makes sense.
Usted suena bien en cualquier boquilla. Bendiciones.
Good morning sir .Your videos are always so good if l am not careful you would cut into my practise time .Keep up your excellent work.
Wow! That t45 really sounds nice when you play it. I own one and idk what I'm doing wrong but it just doesn't sound good. It's not that it has a ton of resistance or anything, just sounds thin and annoying sounding for me.
what reeds do you use?
@@Sirvalorsax vandoren java green 3
ZachAttack498 try a java red 3 or 3.5
I think the Van won it for me. I picked one up on Amazon today.. they had a $15 off coupon too. I have some red 2.5 Java’s I’m gonna try. Keep up the killer work
Thanks
Amazing video as always! I like vandoren the most, feel like it has a bigger sound. It would be great u could get a JodyJazz Jet on Hard rubber to compare with those mps
I'm thinking of starting up a Patreon/Kickstarter to acquire more review material.
@@Sirvalorsax I'll be happy to support that idea- Please, let us know any news about it.
To me the java seems to have a fuller sound than the lakey
I found the tone more consistent on the JJ but the Lakey was more flexible with the pitch
Personally the lakey moves me more but you sound great on both
Hello! Do you know the difference between the Claude Lakeys that says "Jazz 2" and the others that just say "Jazz"?? Thanks!
When comes to blues and altissimo, you're no question man! 😀😅✌
Great review, thanks for posting. I loved the Jumbo Java, but I couldn't get on top of the MP=shape of the beak on the Vandoren. Claude Lakey was much better for my embouchure, was my favorite MP. I really loved them, great MP for the $. I tried a variety of Cane reeds on the Claude Lakey, but the best reed (for me) that I found with Claude Lakey are Fibracells. There are some other players I know who tried a Fibracell with Claude Lakey and also had great results. Try it and see how it works.
I'll try that thanks. Have you tried the hard rubber or metal Claude Lakey pieces? I'm thinking about getting the Apollo series one.
@@Sirvalorsax I personally haven't tried the Apollos because I don't like Metal MPs--that's just me. I know a few players who use the Apollos and they sound awesome; it just goes to show how we're all different. I'm not sure what it is or why, but I've always felt more comfortable with Hard Rubber or Ebonite MPs=I have much more control and they provide me with more versatility. A lot of my friends also say I sound better on Hard Rubber/Ebonite too. Speaking about Hard Rubber/Ebonite vs Metal MPs, that would make a great video for you to do, maybe about helping a player to pick which one is best for them? Love your channel, keep up the great videos!
Second this! Fribacells with Claude Lakey is the best combination!
Hello teacher, which mouthpiece do you recommend the most between the jumbo java t45 and the t55?
I had one of those blue Jumbo Javas from the 80s A75.. Loved the power but after hearing how far my pitch was off in a concert I did a change up.. It didn't like to play well with other instruments..Bad boy!! Sold it a few years back.. those fabled blue ones are going for crazy prices now.. Now that I'm a bit better in embouchure department...maybe time to try a A45 or A55.. Definitely will pick up a T55 when I upgrade my tenor .
I think this gives me a quick conclusión of what Ur looking for based on all Ur previous vids.
Low baffle or no baffle with a 6* ,7 típ opening and Java red 3#.
It really depends on the feel of the mouthpiece though. I prefer 2.5 strength over 3
I use a Lakey 5star with a Van Doren med. soft, so as a rock player with no other horn players in the band, I do find it does all I ask of it. My horn is a Yamaha z82. I really like the tone the unlacquered finish gives me.
t45 I have one and it sounds great
hey. I'm a beginner at sax. Could you tell me the name of this song that you are testing the mouthpieces with? thanks
Thanks for the video! What does the facing curve look like on the Lakey? I'm tryong to match the facing curve on tenor as my alto Beechler S6S short facing I'm playing an "M" facing Berg on tenor right now and it's just too hard to go between a short and longer facing.
I'm listening through high quality well set up speakers and hi-fi amp, and the Lakey sounds much more edgy and less solid than the T45. This is puzzling because you describe them as the complete opposite to that. I agree with Francis S. in that the T45 seems to have a much fuller sound.
All of my cameras have a compressor on them that I can't turn off. Also, I felt that the Vandoren was edgier throughout the entire spectrum of the sax. The Lakey really peaks up top.
@@Sirvalorsax don’t get me wrong, I really trust your opinion, and you can hear the direct sound as you’re playing. I’ve got alto & tenor saxes, and I tried my friend’s Jumbo Java T45 (might have been a T35) on my alto and it was indeed very bright, a bit edgy, and a fair body to the sound. I thought it would be good for a loud funk or rock situation
Awesome video bro.
Appreciate it
larkey is platic？ legere fit it？
The old Legere reeds had fitting issues but this one is fine
Hey guy I need a Lakey 6*3 I prefer that one
It's a nice piece
The Java is the easy choice! I’m really curious to know how that would compare to the JodyJazz Hr. I know Kirk Whalum plays it and Noah Preminger. Just curious, what are you’re views of the JodyJazz Hr??
I know some guys that play on it. I wanted to borrow it for a review but things didn't work out. Hopefully in the future I can put something together
Do you like the T45 or T55 better?
I wish they made a T50!!! I like the sound of the T55 and the feel of the T45
Have you tried any of the larger tip openings for the vandoren?
I had the T55 and I loved it but...the tip was consistently too open for the strength of reeds that I like to use
i have a Claude Lakey , i just find out that i can't play on 2 1/2 jazz Vandoren on this mouthpiece, it's like a 3 on this mouthpiece
What tip opening are you using?
do you recommend lakey for the altissimos?
They are very good for playing altissimo
I play on a soloist d facing and I just ordered a t55 but I’m kinda scared it’ll be a bit to open for me, any tips on getting used to it? Or is the tip opening too different? I’d appreciate any advice if you have the time to answer
Wow. That will be a big jump. You can minimize the difference by choosing softer/softer cut reeds like Vandoren green box 2.5 with the T55. If it's still too much, I would try the T45. I sold my T55 and now I use the T45 with Redbox 2.5 reeds. I use V12 # 2 with my soloist E facing
Sirvalorsax thank you for the advice I’ve never played anything but my soloist on tenor and I didn’t realize How different the tip openings were compared to the t55, I’m scared but excited to play it when it comes. By the way follow up question I’ve seen in a lot of your videos you play on a small reed size, what would you say are advantages of doing that compared to playing on stiff/hard reeds?
Sirvalorsax, how would you compare the Jody Jazz Jet to these two?
The Jody Jazz Jet is exactly what the manufacturer says it is and as far as brightness and power, it is right up there with them. I prefer the Jumbo Java to the Jet because I can still play with a dark sound with it. The Jet seemed to always be turned up to 10 no matter what.
@@Sirvalorsax thanks for the heads up I was thinking of getting a Jet, I guess it will the Jumbo Java then
@@jjpbm vai de claude lakey
and to me they both sound good .. why ? because its the player who makes it sound good and my proof is ? You changed the reed to pay the LAKEY EH ? OK so with that in mind that adjustment changes the game immensely . I bought my van doren zuma for $ 100 dollars when they first came out and tested it against a dukoff .. the van doren always wins .. put a good fiber cell reed on it and yu will blow down the house ..... bobby g.
One tip opening felt too small or too large when I used the same reed. You are right in that it is the player's ability with whatever equipment he or she has
Help me out. What’s the difference from jumbo and jumbo Java series?
You mean Java vs jumbo Java? Java has a rollover baffle and jumbo Java has a high baffle
@@chandlertaylor3881 thanks! What’s the sound difference?
@@Ezekio3160 Java is going to better for all around traditional jazz. Jumbo is a lot brighter. Better for like fusion jazz/modern jazz.
@@chandlertaylor3881 thank you! Jumbo Java it is for me
@@Ezekio3160 you’re welcome. Let me know if you like it. I’m thinking about getting one my self
what reeds did you use?
I use Vandoren Redbox #3 for this video.
I hate the lakey I have and really like the java t55 (not jumbo)
Lakey sound more jazzy
T45 tem mais qualidade de som
Have you tried a Vandoren Java? They are very good versatile mouthpieces.
I haven't tried the regular Java piece yet
@@Sirvalorsax I think you should give it a try, as well as the new large chamber V16 HR also. I have a Java T75 and the V16 HR T7L. They both play very well with 2.5 reeds. Vandoren has such a vast array of mouthpieces, your average sax player will most probably find a suitable one for their needs without looking elsewhere.
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