Copper chain building
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- Also known as jump rings, these little copper links are as useful as they are attractive. This video will take you through the process that I use to make high quality, cut copper chain. This is great for decoration, jewelry, or even chain mail.
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I use a variety of tools in this video, so I don't expect you to have every single one. You can certainly find simpler tools to make many of the fixtures that are demonstrated in this video. I just wanted to show the most pain-free process that I've been able to come up with. The wood-work is on such a small scale here that the entire jig could be made using only a hand-saw, so don't give up just because it may seem as though I have every tool that I could want for this! There still are certain things that you simply must have for this process; I would list chief among the necessities here a vice. A designated needle-nose tool is also a must, but you don't have to use rawhide- just dipping the tips of the pliers in epoxy will work for awhile. You will also need a hacksaw with a fine (32 tpi) blade.
Oh, and one more tip, in case you plan on actually doing this: Don't underestimate how quickly this process will give you blisters. Each link requires around 20 lbs of force to set, so a few feet of chain is lots of wear on your hands. Sand the edges of your bending-block, and be sure that the rubber on your pliers is secure. My needle-nose tool has handles that were wrapped in rubber bands until they were squishy, and then they were wrapped in hockey tape and covered in baby powder. Comfort is important, and if nothing is bothering you while you are doing this, it is quite enjoyable. Get a thought-provoking podcast and a cup coffee- you will look down and see a foot of chain before you know it ;)
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"Finding Movement" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Lots of *suggestions to use a drill* for making the helices. About that:
I don't do it because twisting them by hand will still quickly generate more links than I care to assemble. The assembly is the tedious part. Further, forming the helix by hand is easy, reliable, quiet, waste efficient, and it's even somewhat entertaining. And again, long copper coils simply become too springy, which alters the ring diameter.
If you are trying to make production chainmail, these probably aren't the techniques you are looking for. This video is for the passive hobbyist, so I still don't recommend using a drill, and please try to understand that I'm not interested in your passionate appeal for me to change.
I would never advocate using a drill to make a coil - that sounds like a recipe for disaster. I can tell you that at the jewellers workshop, we use the lathe to hold the round steel bar and wedge one end of the wire, then simply turn the stock with one hand (never switching it on, obviously).
We also only make short lengths, because we're using precious metals, but I found your use of a jig really cool. thanks!
plz make a copper cooking pot
You could use a drill to straighten the wires, clamp one end in the vice, other end in the chuck, i found it also hardens the copper, and it leaves an interesting twist feature in the wire.
Don't do it too much or it will break ;)
i found something out, instead of using salt and vinegar for cleaning off corrosion, use baking soda and vinegar
I wouldn't use your video for chain mail use, not because there's anything wrong with your design, but simply because chainmail requires a larger circumference to support the other connections, this Idea is wonderful and I look forward to trying it out
After years of making chainmail from steel wire I can safely say I think you found the most efficient method, because it's nearly what I do when I make butted mail. However, that cutting jig will become a new part of my work station. I dont' think I can ever thank you enough for that idea. It seems to give a much nicer cut than I'd get with my trusty wirecutters.
I just wish I could find a pocket-esque method of cutting those links with a small overlap when it comes to making riveted chainmail. For me, it's just some modified wire snips with a notch cut in the blade that's large enough for the wire to comfortably sit in it, I can only imagine you'd come up with an answer that'll make me kick myself. But yes, thanks for the jig! it's absolutely going to save me so much time.
+Managarmr420 How about cutting the formed spring a little bit off center? Instead of a vertical cut to the apex of the spring's circle (12 o' clock), a vertical cut at the 1 or 2 o' clock point should produce a mating tapered edge on both ends. My guess is that, a cut like that would be best if you intend to solder the link's tips. Not sure if it would help for riveting them though. Best of luck!
Managarmr420 close the ring so that it overlaps a little then smash the ends with a punch and hammer.
My father supplied me with a bunch of loops he made so I could chain mail (I learned when I was eight) and now I'm running out so I am looking for ways to make more loops
That drill bit-as-depth gauge tip was worth the price of admission!
I deeply appreciate that you are as much about the process (perhaps more?) as you are about the product. Brilliant, as usual. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you! What can I say? I guess I've just been touched by his noodly appendage.
I know pretty much nothing about carpentry and your videos are still entertaining to watch. I like to see how the materials turn into a finished product even if I have no idea what's actually going on.
Mate, that is the neatest, cleverest little jig I've seen for ages, well done.
wow.. a copper chainmail trench coat. . .
you just initiated my next art project. I can't thank you enough.
ONE OF THE BEST INFORMATIVE VIDEOS I HAVE EVER SEEN .ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT ALL .
MANY THANKS TONY
This is an amazing idea and something I'm going to have to try. I make chain mail in my off time here and there and I make my own rings one simple suggestion if you don't mind me adding! The rod you use to make your coils on if you drill the same size hole on one side you and insert your wire and use a drill to spin the rod and it takes half the time doing it by hand! Just leave enough wire sticking through the other side so you can push a little and clip it to remove from the rod and the you can still use your jig to cut your rings! I don't claim to be an expert but it's little tips I've picked up over the time that helps to make a bunch of rings in a short period of time! Thanks again for the video and again this is an amazing idea
That's what I did when I made chanimail.
Tony Alexander it's amazingly fast and easy
Genius ! I love working with copper wire and yes salt and white vinegar is amazing.
You know, I was all ready to go and make a chain until you showed at the end that I won't be able to hang a 25lb pendant around my wife's neck. There goes *that* birthday idea!
Make two chains to hold the 25 pound pendant! Hope she loves it
ogenmatic lol
Matt Johnston Are you going to have her go swimming with it on?
Matt Johnston why is it so heavy???
With a bit of patience and some brass wire (or more copper), you can weld the cuts shut and drastically increase the strength of the chain
Really cool, thanks for sharing! I love it how you use a old fashioned type of measurement for an old hands on type of manufacturing process.
On your Flexi Cube video you made these cupper links to lock the elastics and i was amazed by the method. I'm now suprised by this video!
Very similar to making chainmail. One tip that people do when making mail is to get to sets of curved needle nose pliers to close the links.
Clever way to open a jump ring, genius! Also the cutting jig is marvelous. Excellent for chain making.
I suggest you use a finer jewelers fret saw rather than a hacksaw so the links have a smaller gap. You will have to pry them open using your wood tool but no issue with closing it up after that and you don't lose much copper in filings.
There are nylon jaw pliers you can buy but this leather hack is a great idea. I suppose you can also dip the nose plier jaws in liquid rubber to make padding. I would also do that with your hand tools so your hands don't wear out.
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i cannot stress how amazing this is. my friend and i are starting to make jewelry and this is just so cool looking.
I have been making chains for a while but this jig setup I really do like, the only difference is I am making silver chains mostly but have made copper as well. Next time I’m up in the workshop I will be making a few of the jigs to go,into my kit box’s thanks for the brilliant idea for the jig🤗🤗🤗
I also use a port-a-band, band saw to cut the larger gauges. Only limited by the opening on the port-a-band for the coil length. To coil mine, I put the 1/2" brass stock in my cordless drill, secure one end of the copper in my vice and if you can imagine a winch drum, just wind up the copper, pulling me closer to the vice as it rotates.
You could also solder the ends, and thus, have a stronger chain! (It will have a silver spot remaining, however)
red7fifty it may be expensive but you can use gold soulder which looks like copper enough to hide the joints.
A quick search informs me there are copper solders.
Or use copper phosphor brazing rod.
@@seigeengine copper solders look like silver a lot of the time.
Thanks for sharing, have been doing jewelry for a while now and you make it (chain making) look easy.
I think a good application for this would be chaining the chuck key to the pillar drill.
Savvas Papasavva 👍 Personally I use an old speaker magnet on every stationary tool with its own chuck key, Allen key, etc.
that's awesome! the cutting jig is genius... thank you
Great cutting jig. Well worth watching for that really smart and neat idea. Spot on
Beautifully neat idea with the jig and saw :)
very nice, I want to work with metal more and more, this is inspiring !
Keep on trucking !
That is some oddly attractive chain!
Hey I really like your videos and I wish you posted more and I just got started in a wood shop class and I have been enjoying it
Great idea!
FYI, if you want to prevent the copper from oxidizing to begin with, dip it in some blond shellac; after it's dry, you'll never know it's there & is enough to prevent the air & moisture from getting at it and stop corrosion.
Love the jig i make chain maile this will save me a ton of time
Hi Pocket,
have you never thinks to make a copper chain mail, 1 feet by one feet to see the beauty of a copper chain mail
Starrett calipers? Fancy!
Pretty clever stuff, man! Neat project. Thanks!
This is amazing. This is a project I might actually do. Also, when I was in Prague, I saw that they were selling marble puzzles that break into pieces like your pyramid one.
Terrific video--well explained and the result is beautiful.
Wow that's a super cool idea!
Amazing!
For non-electricians: there are two types of copper wires for electricity: massive, as shown in the video, and tiny threads which are twisted around each other. Those you cannot use for this purpose.
Very well done video, you've inspired me to give it a try.
very informative. can be used to make links for making chainmail!
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Seriously, this is such a great channel I kinda just stumbled upon. It's really relaxing but always educational with every video. Love what your doing -kek
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very nice...i have use a very similare method for making chain mail...perhaps a copper version is now in order..well done sir
so cool!!!! now I know what to do with my scrap 12ga wires
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Wow. Copper is better at holding a weight than I expected. Well, clearly the fact that I never really clarified physically the difference between ductility and tensile stress is the problem in my prediction capabilities, even if I know there is a relation between both properties, I never really did study them - even though I check on such things from time to time...
It was a neat thing to see, though.
Really cool!
i loved this tutorial, thank you!
Shit, looks like I got addicted to this channel...
good stuff.
cannot wait to try this. Thanks.
i feel a tad guilty watching your videos bc i dont have the means to make any of it + id have to convert everything into the metric system.
i really enjoy your videos though! good job as always ☀
Beautifully clever. (again)
wow that was a very cool video.
always love your videos. keep doin great
silver solder the individual links and then retest for strength
I wanted to see him heat treat the chain at the end.
Heat treatment will anneal copper, it's best left just the way it is, the wiremaking, bending, and twisting will have workhardened it
You could also use copper solder.
I just use regular tin/lead solder. It does the job just fine and I'm not making jewelry, just chain mail.
JKC no silver solder on copper links!!! Use a copper solder from a jewelry supply or Sil-fos 5 brazing rods. The silver solder is silver and will look horrible unless you coat the surrounding area with an anti-flux!
there always is a huge amount of wiring scattered around my neighbourhood for some reason... i always wanted to put it to use, now i can :)
Very cool!
this is so satisfying!
So nice.
Hello
Your channel is the best ever
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Have you considered soldiering the links to make a Medium duty chain?
Two questions: 1. Do you have a method/suggestion for keeping it from re-oxidizing after cleaning? 2. What's the story behind your "Pocket83" handle? The cutting jig is genius, Thx.
The short answer is lacquer. However, it can peel/flake off with wear, and it also changes the appearance slightly to a pinkish, non-metallic color. This is of course superficial (and thus temporary), but it should be noted. I've had some luck with drying oils, such as Teak, but I haven't tested it very extensively.
All of this depends on your application, but I find the cleaning solution to be the simplest solution, and it produces the most attractive result.
What size blocks in all are you using I have tried several of your videos I found the work you do amazing
Very cool
Have you looked at all at a lot of the stuff out there from people who do chain-mail things?
You've basically re-invented a bunch of common techniques used to make rings for butted-ring mail.
Indeed. I've don a little chain mail (in middle school shop). We used what were basically needle-nose type pliers but without the grooves on the jaw, but leather works too I guess. We also didn't use copper (steel or something I think)
So, no one forced you to watch it. I found it interesting and helpful.
Geoff, no one was complaining. Linking one technique to another is a GOOD THING! No one forced to to read any of this or get cranky. Play nice with the other kids.
Ketchup works very good for cleaning copper also
Thank you for sharing...
Have you ever worked with enameled copper wire like magnet wire...i am hard time removing the enamel from the wire cleanly.
Ugh. Not really worth the effort. Every once in awhile, I get someone who tells me how it's "free" to re-purpose old motor windings, but at only a few bucks per pound, my labor time is worth lots more than that.
What else are you willing to waste? A solvent? Rags? Time around a fire while breathing fumes? Scrap it. Let them remove that stuff. Find an alternative supply ;)
*@pocket83*
6:30 Much easier winding technique, put the steel rod into a hand drill machine (just like a normal drill bit), then put in one end of the copper in the drill head (it's usually a hole between the bits that hold the drill bit), and just wind away, you WILL need thick gloves at the end, or you will cut yourself, Or you can make some kind of guided holder by drilling a matching hole into a piece of wood & have the copper run through the hole, while you hold the wood.
Will you sell & ship what is needed to make chain? I do not have access to the tools needed to make them. Thank you
My apologies if this has been answered elsewhere, but what are the white plastic (I'm assuming) blocks that you use on your sleds and elsewhere?
Like @ 3:26 ?
That's a scrap chunk of HDPE. It's nice and slippery, and easy to see when there are obstructions. I try to use it (as a stop) on video for clarity. I also have it in 1/4" flat sheets, which I use for fence applications, et cetera. Very abrasion resistant.
Yes, that's what I was referring to, thank you. I figured it had to be abrasion resistant (given the environment of a shop/garage) and not prone to compression, etc.
wow you could make chain mail if you want to
Brilliant
wont jewelry leave a green on the skin?
You didn't solder it?
I like copper because I don't need to care if it rusts.
Why do not you welding the chain?
The reason why the few extra pounds broke the chain, is because you applied the pressure trice. When you took only off to at more weight.
I can now make my armour to defeat the evil shadow creatures.
so when can we expect some chain mail armour?
Obrigado
Is copper rust-proof?
Yes and no. Technically it does. But in reality, not really, because the process is very slow. It eventually gets a thin layer of oxide on the surface that will start to "patina," but it would probably take many thousands of years for a copper chain to "rust" away.
You may have seen a copper roof before: it will develop a light-green color with age. A similar example is with the _Statue of Liberty._ Supposedly, its patina actually protects the copper from aging.
I want to solder the ends and test the strength, bet you could get the extra .2 lbs
Is there such a thing as tool envy?
from the title I thought he was going to "make a building" from copper chain. doy!
would duct tape work instead of leather
Would you sell the jig online like etsy or something
I don't do that. You would be angry if I told you what I would need to make it worth my while. And you will insult me if you make me an offer. I post these videos so that people can duplicate; there is nothing here that you can't do with just a handsaw, drill, and patience.
Rust Proof?
Cliff Randolph copper does not rust but it does oxidise.
This dude getting off from holding a copper chain 😂
What's that in real wire size,ie, mm2
What's that in English?
wow I'm here a year and a day later
Hi do you make for sell?
Dont mean to be rude... but watch any chainmail making video and you will get faster, better, and easier solutions to creating links.
No reason to use a hacksaw and jig when you can use a set of tin snips. Tin snips (on top of being dirt cheap) provide an angle which can help decrease the likelihood of the chain bending to one side (the other side will have the strength of a regular flat cut)
Wooden dowels can be used instead of steel. Ive used wooden dowels to turn something like 7,000 links of steel of the same gauge (in the same way) as the copper in this video. Can't turn it by hand? Drilling a hole through the dowel and a makeshift handle allows you to use a bit of the wire that you already bought (probably too much of "just to be safe") to thread the handle onto the turning rod.
One set of needle nose pliers and a homemade jig that can only be made witg accurate cutting and a saw? Nope. Use two sets of needlenose pliers.
That said. I dont like to post SPECIFIC critiques without mentioning the good in a video.
The suggestion to epoxy leather onto pliers is a good idea. A really good idea. Needle nose pliers are like 2 for $5 at walmart. Leather isnt cheap, but leather is easy to come by in scrap... and even at exorbitant prices, 2 inches of leather will be worth the marks youll make on your chain.
Tin snipped copper wire looks like garbage. There is simply no comparison to cut rings. I don't mean to be rude, either.
Easy one! That would be π.
Close.
pocket83
What exactly do you mean by "close" ?
+pocket83 pie
...in the _sky!_
this is fucking genius
3 words. Copper mail necktie.
TheMaxio42 As was shown, copper doesn't take much force to make it lose its shape so it wouldn't work very well for a tunic it wouldn't work very well but for something purely aesthetic like a tie, it would be pretty awesome.
do you have anywhere that we can buy pocket83 merch some stickers or a mug would be cool :)
Thanks! Um, no. I do have button-magnets, like the one at 6:20, but I don't offer them for sale (yet). It's kind of a profit/time/logistics problem. I appreciate the interest, and I promise to think about it ;)
pocket83 okie dokie keep up the good work :)
I was making copper chain when I was 18.
20 years ago :/
Studying electricity.
this would be a very weak chain
Very assertive. It's not exactly for tuggin' out stumps. As I demonstrate in the video, a single strand will support around 20 pounds.
7:54 they are long nose not niddle nose
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Needle-nose_pliers
Diameter
Nicely thought out process for doing this.
+John Heisz my dick fell of
Is that... pi in the sky?