Possibly The Best IB subwoofers? - Unboxing different models of Acoustic Elegance subs
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- Where to find these subs: aespeakers.com
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Useful video about power requirements:
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It's so nice to see you embracing i.b. setups instead of talking smack about it like so many people do. When I was a teenager I propped a pair of 6×9s between the seat and the cab of my dad's 69 Chevy pickup. No boxes no tuning no dsp's..just pure sound and good music surrounding the entire cab..what a great time those days were.
30 years ago many guys had IB subwoofer setups in their cars in the states. Commonly 4 12 inch subs. Kicker made a "free- air" model. Nothing but truck rattle! Thanks for sound deadening material these days. If the bolt holes line-up happy days. Infrasubs like ficar do miss some sounds, but earthquake tones are pronounced. We imagine these last subs will be great. If you keep them for more than 5 years you've done well.
Thank you for the video, you just sold me on these IB subwoofers for my next build.
I Was really torn between AE and FI, ended up ordering the IB315 from FI. Looking forward to your powering video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise.
I have two at the moment and i really think that for mere mortals the FI 315's are good enough...if you have a frontsystem that can tie in low enough..
You are like a kid in a candy store! 😃 love it.
Thanks. Cannot wait to see the OB speakers in action
I was going to guess AE or Adire Audio. Can’t wait to see them installed and playing!
I just swapped out my 12 inch sub for my AE TD15H sunday night to see what it would be like. SO far I am extremely happy. So fast, and goes very low. It's just in a prefab ported box atm, so I definitely need to start a fresh box build. I had a couple of questions about that if I can run them by you Peter? I know you get too many questions, but your knowledge is a huge help. I've been practicing DIY car audio for several years and even worked in a real shop for a few years, but I've learned more from you in the last year from your vids than I have in the previous 5 years from all other sources combined I think. Thanks for that.
Jason i’m glad these videos help! I can not really deal with individual cases as you can imagine how many messages i get and i could just chat to people all day while i have paying clients and life too.
Best i can always offer is private consultation on phone/video, but then people consider my £100/h rate too much! 😖😃🤷🏻♂️ The hourly rate seems like a lot, but how can you put a rate on experience and knowledge, right? 😃
Very nice sir love the copper idea
Exquisite manufacturing!!
I was actually about to buy a Fi 18" because of the price + cone area + excursion. Now you've given me something to think about. I really look forward to your video talking about power and inductance on IB subwoofers! Also I want to see/hear those OB subs in action!
Their prices are not comparative at all, this video made me go with FI...
Haven't looked back, nor any regrets. Money saved is money earned.
Sure AE looks "neat" but same function thus Im fine with a single voice coil and money saved!
I have that 18 it's great.
The grin on your face when opening it 😂❤
Very nice AE drivers indeed 👌👍
Pit you should do more unboxing vids. Very nice subs. And come on I’m all ready waiting for your Honda vid with those new subs. 😂🤪 cheers 🍻
Your videos are so good that I'm using it as an example for a lot of people that thinks that good sound systems is the ones that play loud without the flat frequency response.
Imagine everybody with your mentality of using speakers focused on sound quality and then try to gain SPL still with better frequency response!
It would be another world of music to live!
And the best part, a lot of people would not have tinnitus.
Fantasztikus mind! Alig várom már, hogy nekem is legyen egy ilyen gyönyörűség🙂
I’ve recently seen open baffled speakers for home theater in photos. It hard to believe that you can get good bass from an open baffle subwoofer in a room, I have heard them in cars before and they sound great.
Room is a box too and good placement with large OB drivers can do the trick.
Nice one! 👍🏽
Mo Majid someone has many copper amps, right? 😃😂
That looks uncannily like the Dayton Audio RSS390HF-4 15" sub.
Top guy wished you had been around in the old days would have snapped you up for my team
broncoupe and now i have my own team! 😃
What was it like back then?
I originally planned on getting a Fi Neo 3.5 12 inch sealed sub, I am now thinking about going with an IB sub or 2 behind the backseat instead.
I like the SBP for isobaric but would a IB speaker work better? I like the idea of smaller box and appearing to have 2 subs instead of 4 :)
i love AE , they are local to me , i have a ton of parts from them
Tell them to answer their emails. I would be a customer if they would talk to me.
@@resonantevol call during open hours . i never email
resonantevol yeah, communication is not easy, small & busy business and unfortunately John, the owner has gone through tough times recently, so please be patient and don’t give up! I wouldn’t be in his position on a personal or business level either. I also waited few months for these drivers, but it’s worth it!
@@pssound9749 its been tough times for us all here , and where john is located in the second worst spot in the state overall and the worst based on population in the state . ive wanted to take a trip by him but havent due to the numbers being so bad.
Coincidentally, he got back to me yesterday. :)
I want one now
Well, I know where I'm gonna get my 18 for my truck IB build....lol. Since Hybrid doesn't make an 18, Scott B can't get upset at me for moving away from the Clarus. Goodness, the home sub looks wicked with that, phase plug (???)! I was actually going to talk to you about up front car audio subs playing into the upper 2khz range since it would be say, installed on the transmission hump and not behind me.
How would this work out with a single mono 12in sub playing that high with the L6SE's and L2SE's?
When you said you had your home sub in open baffle playing that high, it reminded me to ask you.
Once again, thanks for all you do for us and the industry brother!
Great unboxing vid!
Justin Murphy in a car acoustics would make it difficult to play them up that high, but look at Matt Hall’s champion setup! He had a pair of 12”s and a pair of widebands upfront and that was it. 🔊🔊
@@pssound9749 oh my....I've always wanted to hear a system, or at least learn about a successful one. This has been on my mind for my trucks build for a long time.
Is there a write up on it some where or do I need to contact Matt. Now is this the US Matt Hall and his Mercedes....I think that was the car. Let me know!
Justin Murphy yes it’s that one! He’s been very quiet lately, i’m not sure what’s happening with him.
Sweet
SICK. I want to learn more about true IB.
Then check out the playlists and find the True-IB one, plenty of videos in that one.
What are the ideal parameters for all the important specs for an ideal IB subwoofer?
Hi Peter. I will greatly appreciate your answer. I have a Toyota 4runner, Audiofrog 3 ways upfront and want to go IB cutting out an access like your car for true IB.
My question is if you think 2 Ae12au would fill my larger cabin? I would be mimicking your manifold for my subs.
Thank you much
Martin Castaneda that should be nice or a single 18” facing down which would be also more space saving.
i totally fell asleep,what did he say ? im just kidding peter i love your video's and your work is amazing to watch,your the best as far as SQ is concerned ,well i think so,ok so now after sucking up to you would you hook a brother up with some old 3 inch wide banders you dont want anymore haha i will pay shipping to texas yay lol
Where can I find that video you talked about at the end of this video where you talk about power requirements for IB application? I really wanna hear about that part of this issue. Thanks
I’ve put the link in description. 👍
Can you compare the IB15ht and the dipole 15 on the home open baffle? I'd like to know which sub can get louder from 20-100hz while staying under 5% harmonic distortion (harmonics are -25db down) I have two IB15ht and am considering an upgrade to the dipole. Thanks for the video, I'm sharing your excitement of opening all these monster subs!
Mark Based on my free-time to play around and do test, i don’t think i can make this test, but it would be nice to see the difference for sure! 👌🤘
@@pssound9749 Subjective comparison would also be worthwhile!
Mark Bushinski time is still the issue! We go on holiday in 2 days, then when we come back, i’ll be flat out for 2months with installs and projects.
@@pssound9749 No problem. Enjoy your holiday!
the one with copper details looks so good!!! where to buy?
Where do you live?
@@pssound9749 in sweden
@@muffdiver86 then you have to order from Acoustic Elegance direct. They have webshop that calculates shipping costs too, plus import tax & duty in Sweden are on you.
Hey Peter, by chance would you be selling any tshirts like what you got on??
Modzie haha only team members have got so far. If once i sell them, it has to be a big move.
@@pssound9749 I'm an XXL...😁
Beautiful drivers what will be the upper crossover point?? Will it be higher than 60hz? Because you said they could play higher i was assuming you were going to cross them higher?? Does that make any sense?
justkiddin1980 it does, but in my car the way the car itself behaves and how it’s all thought out, i don’t need to to play them above 40Hz as i use 8”s in the enclosures upfront, which are actually crossed at 28Hz 24dB on the purest SQ preset! 😃
@@pssound9749 Wow!! 28hz on 8 inch? Those are some special speakers...i bought the hertz sv200L and their frequency range plays as low as 45hz according to the spec sheets..But yeah they are located in the doors..no room for kickpanels..😣
justkiddin1980 what the spec sheet says for freq range and what a speaker can do in reality are 2 different things. Location and type of install plays a big role.
Yeah, my 8” drivers upfront are very unique and unfortunately super expensive too. 😖
@@pssound9749 Yeah thats why i went with the Hertz...cheap take a lot of power and maybe play low enough...it got dealt a total shit hand with a back injury...i am on vacation and physically can't work on my car....that really sucks especially when my two fi ib315 v2's arrived last week..😣😣
Any midbass? 8 inch only i absolutely can not stand 6.5 "midbass" lol right...
Peter could u suggest option to AE drivers in 15” and 18” for OB
Speskers. AE is too expensive for us in India. Prefer something in Beyma PRV or Faital , Peerless these are available locally
I have ordered a SBP10” from AE, $399/-. But customs duty and freight cost me another 26k INR !!
Being Human at that costing the peerless STW 350 a better bet a pair in 60ltr box sealed will beat the AE. I am currently using pair XLS 10 in sealed great fir medium room
Anand Shah you say that that option can beat the AE...based on what? 🤷🏻♂️😃
If sound quality matters, than you will struggle to beat these speakers! Many speaker manufacturers use their drivers even in their $100k speakers for a good reason. They are actually cheap considering what sound comes out of them!
I want smallest enclosure for a sealed sub didn’t find any better than the peerless STW 350.
STW is not for OB. I am using PRV 15” dual per side in hframe
Superb bass and affordable price for price of 1 AE I get 4 15” PRV woofers
27hz fast bass 16-24ft room
Hypex nCore monoblocks 4 nos and miniDSP. I like the phase plug of AE. Hope they lower prices PA drivers better options
Just first-fired up a pair of SBP-15's after several months of waiting and a couple of weeks of building, and straight away I'm getting really strong burnt voicecoil smells.
Drivers are in phases, power is in check, VC's are not bottoming out, subs do not sound stressed or damaged. But the smell is fkn mega. Thoughts?
Did you ever figure out your issue? How much power are you giving them? I have a single SBP15 on 200w and it has a very faint smell sometimes if I put my face right next to it.
@@scook9216 I forgot about this post.. the smells only lasted for a couple of days, and they have been fine ever since. Running them off a P One.
@@BMW1M How much power are you feeding each one?
I have my single SBP trunk baffled getting 200w set with 0db tone on max volume and it's plenty loud most of the time.
According to modeling and predicted impedance curve, feeding it 400w should be fine in my trunk baffle.
I'm scared to bottom it out, but I've never really seen it moving much.
@@scook9216 They are seeing up to 440w each, and they are quite happy with it.
I've never had one bottom out, and the burning smell cleared up pretty quickly
@@BMW1M No subsonic filter I'm guessing?
What differences in speck should we be looking for in a trunk IB vs true IB?
Im looking into the Fi ib. (Not sure what size yet) in a Lexus GS350. Back seats dont drop, only a ski hatch
Taahir Jagot for trunk IB you want the SPB, for true IB the IBAU ones.
What is the very best version of this brand for super powerful low bass for car infinite baffle?. I'm wanting just one big one.
Edit: what kind of amp do i need ? I have a 2000 watt amp is that to much ?
You want to talk to Stereo Integrity or One Audio then. They have more of a SQL type sub line up.
@@pssound9749 Thanks ive found exactly what i need from stereo integrity the HT-18 v3 subwoofer. May try to fit two of them in my car but idk yet because i think theres going to be an issue with the mounting area. I got a jaguar xf supercharged so everything is tight in it.
Is it possible to combine an IB set-up and a bass-reflex port?
Илья Основиков mmm NO 😃
Илья Основиков have you watched the IB playlists?
@@pssound9749 No, I haven't watched those playlists yet.
The reason why I am asking is that once I was considering to place sub drivers in a wall between rooms. I calculated the results in the BassBox5 programm. One of the options I've tried was a bass-reflex arangement with port(s) build into the same wall as the drivers. The idea was to make port(s) length equal to thikness of a wall and to have them tuned to some subsonic frequences like 10-15 Hz. According to BassBox5 results such tuning supposed to lower driver excursion and even to reduce a group delay in a lower working range. But that's all in theory....
Илья Основиков it would certainly be an interesting test! 🤘💪🔊🔊
@@pssound9749 Yes. That would be interesting. However the only suitable wall that I had happened to be too weak and ringing. So I've scrapped that plan and will be building some W/RiPole combination dipoles. But, you could try that idea in some car IB installation. It wouldn't take much effort.
Do I need a lot of power to use the shakers if I wanted to have some fun for front and rear seats, do you use the aura sound or something else and haw many watts are you giving them , sorry just wanna have fun too, my wife would love it with her Spanish, dominican music,reggaeton ,but I'll enjoy it too, so when are you changing all that stuff in the honda, so your going black zapco amps, with the gold touches,
eduardo batista i’ve had Zapco amps in there in the last 4years. 🤷🏻♂️
Shakers need 50-150W, but installation technique is super important on them.
Do you have videos of the installation of the shakers or which models and name brand you use, wow, you have motivated me to do some fun stuff, specially using heat shrink,Ferrell's, crimpers, tech flex, installation ideas, for now and the future,
@@eduardobatista329 been looking for shakers too at the moment but more fot the home cinema..you have to watch out for the dayton audio ones..they apparently crap out fast if you recieve them working at all..i have seen sinuslive units with better reviews and the original "buttkickers" are probably best...but they cost a pretty penny.. You can mount them on a piece of sturdy plywood and mount that to the seat...or you could weld a steel plate and mount it on that...The only thing you need to take in account is that you mount them really sturdy and maybe consider using nylock nuts...
I guess Chris is getting a new IB sub for the TT also ? LOL
david cameron haha he screwed it up once swapping the AE IB15AU to the Fi! 😃
All Apollo upgraded?
dcfisdf no, only the IB18AU and the IB15HT.
@@pssound9749 Do you recommend the Apollo upgrade? Thanks
Can those subs be used in sealed boxes also
eduardo batista no, firm NO! 😃
Thanks for that, and it's good for people to see it, but people will do whatever they want any way
eduardo batista yeah those who have zero experience and don’t know what T/S parameters are for, they may do what they want, but i clearly stated that these are IB subs and also mentioned to check the IB playlists to learn what this application is about. So if it’s not clear for you yet either, please check those IB playlist! 🙏
I was looking at an older version of zapco with the bluetooth , wow they are powerful and very clean, my friend bought one, I'm shocked that for a d class ,its awesome for sq, and the power is crazy , it's the zapco st105d, they dont make them like that any more, also the dc series all have integrated dsp, not like a stand alone, but great also , that zapco with the 8 channel and dsp, the one you used on the Audi tt, great to use two of those in a complete system,they use hardly any space, but the internals of the st 105d are crazy,specially in a system were it wont be pushed will have so much transparency and dynamics, any good known speakers will sound awesome, for you is different you compete so you need the best, but for us we're getting the best with just upgrading the junk the factory puts in our cars.
Hope your car comes out really nice, good luck, now back to making money, I cant wait to have everything complete. 🚘🚗🥰