Previously: th-cam.com/video/MA7oRTrs3tQ/w-d-xo.html Also, apologies for the moving cam facing outside. I forgot to turn off the stabilization after filming handheld prior to this shoot.
Oil cooler plus a little more time dialing in the spring rate, bound/rebound and you've got a perfectly balanced, comfortable, practical super sedan for a reasonable price with reasonable upkeep costs. Love it!
Oil cooler, and some people end up swapping out to a 180* thermostat. They run hot from the factory. When he is on the straights in open air, you don't see it drop that much, so could be anything with this kind of car. I don't think it would be airflow to the radiator since the widebodies (should) have quite a bit of opened surface area.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I love watching these huge American V8s that cost 50K$ USD run the ring and keep up with Porsches and Mercedes that cost 3 times as much
I hope he got an oil change after this lap cause that oil is cooked. This lap was much better than his last lap and I’m glad he came back. With an oil cooler and some better brakes he should have a pretty good setup.
from my experience, these motors dont seem to mind the heat too much. the weekend my dad bought his(less than 500 miles on it), we put into limp mode and it ended up stalling itself at stops. oil looked fine and car still runs great
I’ve lived in metro detroit my whole life and these things absolutely litter the streets here. Every dad and average joe has one and i thought they were just goofy straight line cars with flashy looks for a cheap price tag. But after seeing this i respect this car now. Too bad none of them by me will ever see a track. Just pot holes and street drags
I would say it takes a very good driver like Misha, to take one of these Chargers to its limit. One small mistake and 4,500lbs can slide away from you fast.
👌😁 Car owner just entered the bottomless well of car performance. Improved tires, brakes and wheel alignment, now needs to improve cooling. Then will be the suspension, then more power and so on, and on and on…
Round #3.....oil color, upgraded brake fluid and/or braided lines. To help the body roll maybe a thicker rear sway bar. I wonder if the hellcat sway bar would make a difference
Honestly, thank you for showing us again how our Scatty’s in the States, handle on the track of the gods, you made that heavy sled look effortless. Having the same twin of his car (stock& 555 Nits rear),makes me love mine even more! Getting something like or please god close too that Nürburgring track in the states, I’d love to watch you roll out here and master that track. Please continue to post amazing content 🤟🏅
I’ve seen a hellcat challenger get turned into an autocross machine and with a good driver good tires and decent suspension these cars are very capable
@@Chris-hw4mq They'll definitely be slower at least. The Charger with minimal prep would walk all over both of them. They aren't even in the same class anyway due to weight and tire width.
The rear camera is a great addition. Great to see how fast you pull away from other cars. I love how the owner took your advice on car upgrades, they have made quite an improvement, but now it just exposes the next weakness. Keep showing the American iron!
Amazing to see a car as heavy as a Dodge Charger passing BMWs and even a Porsche on the Nurburgring. You are the man! Was that an M4 that passed you at 7:51?
@Madolin1944 - Same here; I was one of the original “haters” 😅from the beginning; but, I’m glad he came back. I’ve learned a TON from this video; thank you. How to ‘dial in’ a 4,500+lb. beast like this for the track…. I was completely blown away by the overheating situation… wow! I didn’t expect that one.
I never fully understood the differences in high end cars and riding "like on a rail" until seeing the Porsche pass you guys. The way it moved on the track was the explanation in of itself. Thank you for the video.
A 190 Tstat is a must in these cars. They have them at 203 stock to get cylinder temps hotter for less emissions which is bad because the engine is already heat soaked at factory stock temps.
I’m impressed with P4S tires. I have them on my C6Z06. Very good grip vs wear! 300 hardness and they are better than the 200 wear Nittos I used to run.
rear facing cam thank you!!!! its fine to get oil hot you just have to change it more frequently. of all the engine configurations big v8s have my heart
the rear facing camera is worth its weight in gold, adds some perspective to the speed in the corners and shows why you always take a look in the mirror, even if you are on a hot Lap there is always someone faster around
Man i have rented the charger with my visit in the usa i must say Misha it amazes my even more now knowing how it handles what you made happen in this lap outstanding even more respect now
what Bongard back on track?? Very nice of him to back so quick with the beter tyres and brakes 👍🏻 With the rear view you can see the elevations better 👌🏻😎
@@ii_dynasty Nah worst condition cars are those were people cheap out on everything and dont give a flying fuck about anything. Just fill up Gas and drive, and wonder why they break down on the middle of the road lol
Loved the first one video! The Hemi engine is quite lovely,I think it likes to rev a little more than 6.000 RPM to fall in the peak power quick again while up shifting. Maybe a bigger radiator and oil cooler would be ace hehehehe. Very nice video!!! I would love to ear that engine with a better exhaust&air intake too!
just goes to show you how simple mods like tires and brakes really can transform a car, and those temperature reading were for coolant not oil, definitely was biting my nails watch that temp climb, great driving as always, love from new jersey usa!!
I like how people saying it’s a different car now. All he did was basically switch tire brands because he reverted back to stock springs which isn’t a mod. The scat pack is such an underrated car
Thats the problem with where I live, is the winters can get down to -20F and the summers up to 100F so I cant just run summer sport tires year round, because part of the year its dry and the roads have no snow, but you'll start out with like 10F in the morning and 50F in the afternoon, you cant drive a car with summer performance tires in those temps. And the tires aren't cheap, the set on the car now was $3500.. . eh one day I'll be rich enough to have two sets of $7000 wheels and tires. lol but not there yet
Oh man do I feel dumb. I am thinking it has been less then 24 hours since I watched you drive this vehicle the first time and I commented on doing another.... Nice bro... Nice. So I am an American that owns only Japanese cars.... After watching a bit of the US cars run, I may consider one in the future. I fell into the "American Muscle only goes straight" demographic. Lastly, I love the rear view camera. That looks newer. Very very good. I like watching other people try to chase you. A lot of fun. p.s. I hope you see this message! And thanks for reigniting my racing desires!
Upgrading the engine oil cooler and better oil is needed! The factory 0w40 oil isn't good enough. Motul or Total racing oil would have helped keep the temps down.
No it wouldn't have! Watch project farms synthetic oil challenge. Motul is garbage. Penzoil platinum full synthetic is what Mopar recommended for the hemis and it litterly came in second place out of 15 plus different oils including the best which is amsoil
I'm not surprised it overheated. I don't care for the cooling setup in these cars. I've replaced my radiator three times, granted I have 200,000 miles on my Scat Pack.
Most American police use Hemi chargers to chase down speeders in Porsches, Corvettes, Ferraris, and such. They can do the job with someone who has advanced driver training like they give at police academies.
needs a massive oilcooler for the Nordschleife and a KW V3, i guess then it would be the perfect setup for this kind of car. Insane how Misha drives this tank.
Proof of 2 things 1. Millions of $ in R&D, even for stalantis, beats most aftermarket mods. 2. Tires are the most consequential, and thus, the most important, modification that one can do without wholey re-engineering any given car. Buy the car you want, and put thr best tires on it that you can.
He may need to play around with stiffer/adjustable Sway bars, especially in the rear to get the large wheelbase car to behave more neutral, to me it looked like there was a bit much of understeer. Nonetheless, I'm happy for the Owner and it was a enjoyable watch
Previously: th-cam.com/video/MA7oRTrs3tQ/w-d-xo.html
Also, apologies for the moving cam facing outside. I forgot to turn off the stabilization after filming handheld prior to this shoot.
Tbh I think it's way better with the stabilization turned on.
Cam was completely fine.
Cams looked good to me...most impressive!
very nice cam rear 👍
I actually like the moving image. Makes for a more dynamic experience
as a charger 392 owner, having stock 245 width all seasons, i dont know how the hell dodge got away selling this car with 500 treadwear all seasons.
They made these cars for burnouts and goin sideways, same as the hellcats some came with 275s
Bruh, the piddly 300hp 350Z has 245 on rear (25s front, but still), do the tires overheat at all?
youre missing the point, heavy 485hp car on 500 treadwear 245's
Chrysler Corp aka Cuts Corner
Probably part of some things they did to meet some fuel efficiency requirement lol
Like the addition of the rearview! Great that you keep improving your content
More like downgrading with 4 cameras going on. Distracting to the eyes and not enjoyable. 2 is enough
@@HardcoreWeeaboo take an Adderall and deal with it 😎👉
@@HardcoreWeeaboo I agree that it's a little distracting but it's worth the trade-off for most people (including me)
Oil cooler plus a little more time dialing in the spring rate, bound/rebound and you've got a perfectly balanced, comfortable, practical super sedan for a reasonable price with reasonable upkeep costs. Love it!
I doubt if only a oil cooler would be enough.. it is even the first lap and 147 celcius is insane.
@@jangr3813 250 F = 120 C...
Most cars run at 115-120 with that needle stopped (software) on the 90C bar :)
@@jangr3813 an Oil cooler will definetly be enough, they only need a 10c reduction, and at those speeds that oil cooler will recieve a lot of airflow
Oil cooler, and some people end up swapping out to a 180* thermostat. They run hot from the factory. When he is on the straights in open air, you don't see it drop that much, so could be anything with this kind of car. I don't think it would be airflow to the radiator since the widebodies (should) have quite a bit of opened surface area.
They make 180
Thermostats too that keep 'em cooler
Rear view camera is a great addition. I really enjoyed this second stint on the charger. Keep it up!
These are the most interesting videos where someone does improvements and comes back
Impressive. The result of the wife declaring, “you can only have one car, and it has to be a 4 door”
in that case, CT5-V BW please in 6 speed
Lol or a Man can just get what he wants with his money!
Imagine Durango hellcat 3 row!!! Insane capability to do everything
I'd have a Alfa Romeo Giulia Quad.
Especially in the EU parts are easier to get .
M5 CS for me, please
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I love watching these huge American V8s that cost 50K$ USD run the ring and keep up with Porsches and Mercedes that cost 3 times as much
I paid 36k for mine in 2016, same exact car, nothing comes close to it for the price.
Incredible performance out of a 4500lb american sedan! Love to see it.
I hope he got an oil change after this lap cause that oil is cooked. This lap was much better than his last lap and I’m glad he came back. With an oil cooler and some better brakes he should have a pretty good setup.
from my experience, these motors dont seem to mind the heat too much. the weekend my dad bought his(less than 500 miles on it), we put into limp mode and it ended up stalling itself at stops. oil looked fine and car still runs great
@@Ghostrider-xd3xvI mean engine is fine, it's just that the oil is very oxidized now
which brakes and suspensions did he have please, Thanks
@@moroccanfuturestrader94 He has the stock 6 piston brembo brakes with upgraded pads. His suspension is also factory with suboptimal camber settings.
I’ve lived in metro detroit my whole life and these things absolutely litter the streets here. Every dad and average joe has one and i thought they were just goofy straight line cars with flashy looks for a cheap price tag. But after seeing this i respect this car now. Too bad none of them by me will ever see a track. Just pot holes and street drags
I would say it takes a very good driver like Misha, to take one of these Chargers to its limit. One small mistake and 4,500lbs can slide away from you fast.
modifying any turd can give you a respectable result
@@gavcom4060must be a high selling turd
The " Black Ghost " made its name in Detroit; it makes sense that you see them.
except these cars aren’t cheap, not anymore atleast. Easily 40-50k all day along. And 40k is pushing it.
Another great lap and I'm glad he took your advice about the brakes and tires!...Now I'm hoping you got to drive Challenger 😎😂
I have to hand it to him as scared as he was in the first video he still has the balls to upgrade and send it around again 👍🏻
Some of us live for the thrill.
That M4 had somewhere to be! Very impressed with how well this did. Def won't take much to pretty much nail it
👌😁 Car owner just entered the bottomless well of car performance. Improved tires, brakes and wheel alignment, now needs to improve cooling. Then will be the suspension, then more power and so on, and on and on…
Haha this hobby breaks the bank and there is always “something else” to improve. You need DEEP pockets or you’ll feel like a pleb lol
Round #3.....oil color, upgraded brake fluid and/or braided lines. To help the body roll maybe a thicker rear sway bar. I wonder if the hellcat sway bar would make a difference
Oil color..BLACK
My rt doesn't have much body roll with the eibach lowering kit tbh it is a little bit rough over rough road but that's it
Honestly, thank you for showing us again how our Scatty’s in the States, handle on the track of the gods, you made that heavy sled look effortless. Having the same twin of his car (stock& 555 Nits rear),makes me love mine even more! Getting something like or please god close too that Nürburgring track in the states, I’d love to watch you roll out here and master that track. Please continue to post amazing content 🤟🏅
Charger round 3: massive engine oil cooler, eibach spring back in again, semi-trackday alignment setup
Night and day difference with the car, the owners fear factor, and the “send it” skills. Kudos to both of you gentlemen!
I’ve seen a hellcat challenger get turned into an autocross machine and with a good driver good tires and decent suspension these cars are very capable
They actually handle really well with decent tires and suspension work.
@@Chris-hw4mq I agree I don’t think this car could be reasonably argued as a sensible choice for autocross
Gr86 good for autocross
@@Chris-hw4mq They'll definitely be slower at least. The Charger with minimal prep would walk all over both of them. They aren't even in the same class anyway due to weight and tire width.
@@Chris-hw4mq look up pikes peak SRT charger or challenger, they can handle, just like any car, with money
The rear camera is a great addition. Great to see how fast you pull away from other cars. I love how the owner took your advice on car upgrades, they have made quite an improvement, but now it just exposes the next weakness. Keep showing the American iron!
Amazing to see a car as heavy as a Dodge Charger passing BMWs and even a Porsche on the Nurburgring. You are the man! Was that an M4 that passed you at 7:51?
Yes
@@mgcharoudin DAU-XX Schirmer M4?
It's the driver mostly. If you go there the majority aren't veterans like Misha won and has done thousands of laps.
@@hipflip-ve6lm No
@Madolin1944 - Same here; I was one of the original “haters” 😅from the beginning; but, I’m glad he came back. I’ve learned a TON from this video; thank you. How to ‘dial in’ a 4,500+lb. beast like this for the track…. I was completely blown away by the overheating situation… wow! I didn’t expect that one.
Love the rear cam! Another excellent video.
Big Bertha was sweating up the hill !🤣 Good job guys. Tires brakes tires and brakes everybody take notes !
Thats freaking cool to see the guy in his charger back with upgraded parts. Awesome.
Rear view is very nice addition.
I never fully understood the differences in high end cars and riding "like on a rail" until seeing the Porsche pass you guys. The way it moved on the track was the explanation in of itself. Thank you for the video.
Great rematch! Nice job! Great to see Kevin going out with you again! :D
A 190 Tstat is a must in these cars. They have them at 203 stock to get cylinder temps hotter for less emissions which is bad because the engine is already heat soaked at factory stock temps.
190 F = 87.7 C
203F = 95 C
Rear facing camera! Yes Misha, thank you for considering my request from a few videos back. Love to see it!
I’m impressed with P4S tires. I have them on my C6Z06. Very good grip vs wear! 300 hardness and they are better than the 200 wear Nittos I used to run.
Just FYI mopar recommends DOT3 brake fluid for track events like this. That might help with the softness with the DOT4 getting warm.
You are right. You can use AP R1 brake fluid ( Dot 3 ).
Misha BRO! You drive this track like you’re going down the stras to the store! Excellent skills, love your channel!🤙🏽
rear facing cam thank you!!!! its fine to get oil hot you just have to change it more frequently. of all the engine configurations big v8s have my heart
The BEST option is 5w40 viscosity oil.
Watching the previous run and this one complete night and day difference, great showing.
Thanks!
Thank you!!!
What a great example for how much quicker you get, if you improve essential things that ppl often just classify as "safety" stuff.
Found you while researching Forester STI's. Now I can't stop watching all your others, thank you for all the information 😊
cool video :) that Charger really handles good now compared to the previous setup sliding everywhere
These two videos with the Charger were so intense! Love it!
The widebody upgrade is a must for this car. I think the Red Eye model has more robust cooling/brakes/everything for track driving.
I somehow didn't realize what we were missing until you added the rear cam. Now I hope you keep it. I love having that view added in!
the rear facing camera is worth its weight in gold, adds some perspective to the speed in the corners and shows why you always take a look in the mirror, even if you are on a hot Lap
there is always someone faster around
Yes! I also have a Challenger Scatpack 6 speed manual, great to see Dodge represented on the channel.
i cant wait to see you drive this car,this car not for amateur driver on the track,i enjoyed to watch this!
Misha, doing triple digits, calmly calling out cars he sees. Awesome as fuck.
I bloody really enjoy your shows ,Thanks Mate
Man i have rented the charger with my visit in the usa i must say Misha it amazes my even more now knowing how it handles what you made happen in this lap outstanding even more respect now
So much more composed! That’s incredible.
It's a testament to the goodness of the 25 year old E class chassis.
IT isn't the E class chassis. Only thing in common is a few suspension parts. Not the complete E chassis.
man that g82 is so pretty idc what anyone says, i was just watching the rear cam the whole time till he passed 😂
what Bongard back on track??
Very nice of him to back so quick with the beter tyres and brakes 👍🏻
With the rear view you can see the elevations better 👌🏻😎
Bongard is iPool exclusive I guess.
@@mgcharoudin What have i found something that Misha does not know about the ring 🤯😵😋
@@xXxH8TERxXx tbh I think they are just the only ones with a closed trailer.
From a US perspective it's nice to see normal people driving these cars, and not gang members.
"Selling a Charger Scatpack, the car has never seen a race track and has never overheated
No low baller, i know what i got"🤣🤣🤣
The ones that do burnouts and constant sliding are usually in the worst condition.
@@ii_dynasty Nah worst condition cars are those were people cheap out on everything and dont give a flying fuck about anything. Just fill up Gas and drive, and wonder why they break down on the middle of the road lol
@@jugobetrugo7213 literally same group.
Loved the first one video! The Hemi engine is quite lovely,I think it likes to rev a little more than 6.000 RPM to fall in the peak power quick again while up shifting. Maybe a bigger radiator and oil cooler would be ace hehehehe. Very nice video!!! I would love to ear that engine with a better exhaust&air intake too!
Wow! What a difference the changes made. The confidence now is off the charts.
just goes to show you how simple mods like tires and brakes really can transform a car, and those temperature reading were for coolant not oil, definitely was biting my nails watch that temp climb, great driving as always, love from new jersey usa!!
Truly amazing how different looks this lap from the previous very different 👍
👌🏻 Great having the rear view, maybe flip it so it behaves like a mirror?
Good point!
Yeah an oil cooler would probably be good haha
Didn't look like the engine got hot, wasn't itt the brakes that got hot?
@@gpaje Coolant temp was 113 degrees, oil was 148 degrees
@@Pr0vost thats nothing
@@728GT in Celsius... 148c is pretty fkn hot.
@@728GT As stated in the video, 148 C is about 300 F and vice versa.
Impressive. Never figured it would put power down no problem on regular street tires. Then again, 315mm width alone gives you a lot to work with.
It's not that much power for how much it weighs , id hope it would put it down
I like how people saying it’s a different car now. All he did was basically switch tire brands because he reverted back to stock springs which isn’t a mod. The scat pack is such an underrated car
hahaha this guy is cool, i like how he came back
Don't forget to run the heat at full blast. It helps a little bit to keep the engine cooler.
He should buy the hellcat hood. Those extra vents can help extract heat from the engine bay.
Would like to see this car again but with full bolt on and tune and upgraded cooling and better suspension.
Thats the problem with where I live, is the winters can get down to -20F and the summers up to 100F so I cant just run summer sport tires year round, because part of the year its dry and the roads have no snow, but you'll start out with like 10F in the morning and 50F in the afternoon, you cant drive a car with summer performance tires in those temps. And the tires aren't cheap, the set on the car now was $3500.. . eh one day I'll be rich enough to have two sets of $7000 wheels and tires. lol but not there yet
loved the rear cam, nice upgrade!
148°C oil temp? WOW! 128°C was the biggest number i´ve seen so far in my Challenger scat pack. Are those tires the Michelin sport 4 s?
Its crazy to see how much better the car performed this time from the last time
Doing all this with a car that's tuned for drag racing is crazy. 315's all around is what those widebody kits give you.
man, those speeds w/o a cage or any safety beyond what it rolls off the line with is just crazy to me. Great driving!
Oh man do I feel dumb. I am thinking it has been less then 24 hours since I watched you drive this vehicle the first time and I commented on doing another.... Nice bro... Nice.
So I am an American that owns only Japanese cars.... After watching a bit of the US cars run, I may consider one in the future. I fell into the "American Muscle only goes straight" demographic.
Lastly, I love the rear view camera. That looks newer. Very very good. I like watching other people try to chase you. A lot of fun.
p.s. I hope you see this message! And thanks for reigniting my racing desires!
The Kevin cam was more fun in the original video 😂😂.
Nice lap with all that traffic.
LOVE the rear view cam, please keep it!
Oih these before and after videos are really good. Really improved handling!
Upgrading the engine oil cooler and better oil is needed! The factory 0w40 oil isn't good enough. Motul or Total racing oil would have helped keep the temps down.
No it wouldn't have! Watch project farms synthetic oil challenge. Motul is garbage. Penzoil platinum full synthetic is what Mopar recommended for the hemis and it litterly came in second place out of 15 plus different oils including the best which is amsoil
@@fredwilliams7893 lol
For Nurburgring 5w40 oil is better.
@@fredwilliams7893Amsoil or Redline ?...
I'm not surprised it overheated. I don't care for the cooling setup in these cars. I've replaced my radiator three times, granted I have 200,000 miles on my Scat Pack.
Have you tried to put on 180 degree thermostat?
Or with the OEM ones?
Nice to see that you heard us and installed a rear cam
Most American police use Hemi chargers to chase down speeders in Porsches, Corvettes, Ferraris, and such. They can do the job with someone who has advanced driver training like they give at police academies.
good tires, alignment and pressures are underrated!
needs a massive oilcooler for the Nordschleife and a KW V3, i guess then it would be the perfect setup for this kind of car. Insane how Misha drives this tank.
Sounds good, goes great, thumbs up!
scat pack widebody is easily the sweet spot for these cars, charger or challenger. The grip levels are pretty nuts
Upgraded the tires and he found his balls. He’s not screaming and shaking as bad as before 😂😂😂
5:03 the sky and clouds look like a video game..... thats so pretty
How a few mods make all the difference. Cool lap. Dope video. ✌
Misha you don't need to know what Fahrenheit means if you just look at the gauge usually the center is normal.
Quality content! Love the rear facing cam, please keep!!!
Was watching past few videos thinking rear car with you having people chase you would be awesome. Glad to see it in this video 👌🚀
I like that it does not have to scream to 8,000 plus RPM to make power.
Appreciate the info about the cameras, thanks!
Right with you on the thought that the previous suspension would have worked with the new brake & tire setup.
Proof of 2 things
1. Millions of $ in R&D, even for stalantis, beats most aftermarket mods.
2. Tires are the most consequential, and thus, the most important, modification that one can do without wholey re-engineering any given car.
Buy the car you want, and put thr best tires on it that you can.
" Something is loose in the back seat- what is it?"" The back seat". 😆
WOW the G82 looked good from the front, looked low and fast, love it. Looked good from behind too, imo it's frikin hot
I was very surprised of the 392s performance on this track!
Rear facing camera is a gamechanger.
Amazing vid/run - was getting sweaty palms watching y’all sling that 4500 lb sled around at speed, in traffic. Impressive!!!
He may need to play around with stiffer/adjustable Sway bars, especially in the rear to get the large wheelbase car to behave more neutral, to me it looked like there was a bit much of understeer. Nonetheless, I'm happy for the Owner and it was a enjoyable watch