@Restless Viking There is another Michigan connection to the Fu-Go bombs. My great uncle Walter Mack was a professor of microbiology at Michigan State University and one of his hobbies was collecting sand samples from around the world. He had an extensive collection of sand samples and was known for his expertise in this field of study. Walter was contacted by the military to identify where the sand from the balloon ballast bags was from and he was able to help identify the beach in Japan where the sand originated. The military later identified hydrogen production facilities nearby that were destroyed by B-29 bombing raids.
Big thanks to your Uncle, to think that studying sand could help the war effort in such a way. That's awesome. After my Fathers death I found his coats, boots, canteen,ammo packs, belt, knife and his helmet along with a Samurai sword with documentation/permission papers to bring them home. I didn't even know he had them because he only spoke of the war one time to the whole family for just a few minutes. For some reason your comment made me think of him real hard. Sorry for rambling, I miss him.
I am really into WW2 history and I'm from Grand Rapids, MI so I have told this story before and no one believes me. I'm gonna send them here now lol. Love the video 🤙🤙
I know someone who found one Near Grand Rapids Mi. Near old Kent county airport.Heard this many years ago. Reported it and the Army picked it up. Never heard anything more
Being born in the 80's and going to public schools, I always thought (and was taught) we were a free nation. It's so crazy to me the lies we've been told. Every war we've been in, is because the US found something of monetary gain. The greed and censorship is truly mind blowing to me. The older I get, Ive come to realize we are the land of the enslaved who believe we're free. The 13th amendment abolished slavery for Africans but in turn ensalved EVERY American. #TheMoreYouKnow 💫
I have to be more consistent in posting videos and serious about expanding, I think. It is still a bit of a hobby for now. I think eventually it will do well. It isn't too bad for the few videos I post.
Good job on the history of the balloon bombs, My Mother was the younger sister of the preachers wife Eva Winters Fowler. She was an avid history buff and spoke on several occasions about the incident and family history. My wife Bonnie and I were able to go to the 50th anniversary of the deaths in Bly Oregon. A very moving ceremony organized by the military including a missing man flyover by the air force. By the way my wife is a Danish Berserker. Trust me I have seen her in action.
LOL! Danish Berserker, eh! You've seen some stuff. I think you also sent a message through the website. I tried to respond, but hotmail kicked it back and said the email was unavailable.
This was outstanding. You plumbed all angles of this history in a really interesting way, particularly the engineering aspect. While I live in Detroit I’ve spent a lot of time up in Cadillac / Meauwataka / Mesik region, it blows my mind that a balloon from Japan could make it all the way to our northern ramparts of the state. What is really interesting and instructive is the censorship employed to keep things silent. I’m very against censorship but keeping the Japanese in the dark re the effectiveness of their bombing campaign was advantageous. I’ll be debating that for a bit. Great stuff.
There was military action back onto launch sites in Japan. Those sites were pinpointed, as you said, by analysis of sand in the sandbags. Each beach had mixes of different proportions of different minerals. Analysis uniquely identified each location. And the records were used to locate them. For some reason, pre-war Japan contracted with an American to analyze and catalog beach sands for them. This information was used to pinpoint the launch site. Soon, a single B-29 photo reconnaissance overflew the site. A few days later, another B-29 came. It didn’t take pictures. They put the balloons out of business. The Japanese are credited with discovery of jet streams. Before these balloons, jet streams weren’t documented. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
Great video! I'm familiar with the Japanese balloons on the west coast but never heard about them reaching as far as Michigan. I used to live in Farmington Hills and would like to research the balloon that landed in nearby Farmington.
I added some resources in the description that might be helpful. I have copies of the declassified Army intelligence report and MSP report for Farmington. Send me a message through our website if interested. Otherwise, there is a decent amount of info online.
There a small pond or lake west of that little town my spell check cant help me with. It's called carp lake, not far away. Its only maybe 3 acres but 90 feet deep in the middle. My fish graph shows a round object in 60 feet of water. This graph is not high end sonar by any means, but something is down there that is not supposed to be there!! Great video!!! I may go get me a divers certificate.
If that lake is west of Meauwataka? It is called Dayhuff lake. I grew up there. The property that the bomb landed was owned at the time by the Rogers family. As far as the lake goes, if you look on Google earth and then use a topography overlay, you will notice a ancient river channel from east of Manton with quite a few ponds and small lakes that are in the path of this watershed that lead to a bowl shape where Dayhuff lake is located. When at this lake and looking around you can clearly see that it sits in a very large bowl, approximately 3/4 of a mile surrounding it. If you dive that lake, be very careful for there are springs that manifest in different locations on the floor. As well if you go to that lake in the winter you will notice the lack of ice shanties because of the unstable (honeycomb) ice. Strange area indeed!
I live in Allegan County, 146th street is in that county, granted Kent county is only a mile north. Was the balloon transported to Kent county? Wondering why KCSD deputies were dispatched. I stopped at the New Salem store only yesterday and have attended weddings at the church on 146th between 24th and 26th up on the hill. I had no idea that this had ever occurred. I would think that this is worthy of at least a roadside brass plaque that the Great Lakes State is so fond of.
I am told that Kent County often responded to Allegan County calls back then (for that area). The balloon was left at the farmhouse and Army Intelligence transported it the next day - I believe to Chicago. It was actually used by a balloonist after the war and later purchased by the Byron Center Historical Museum, where it is today.
@@RestlessViking I can see that, Allegan county would have had a much smaller Sheriffs department at the time and for 40+ years after that counties occasionally crossed jurisdictional lines. Plus this was wartime. My dad was a deputy/ later Sargent for an adjacent County SD from’71 to 2014.
Very cool story! I've never heard it before. The Meauwataka story is interesting because I live not far from that area. I also know a man named Don Wing who would have been a young boy in the 40s. I believe he lived in Cadillac at one time. I'll have to ask him if he knows anything about the story.
@@RestlessViking wait, you were Airborne also?! 1992, Ft Beginning, Georgia, baby! Not sure why I thought you were a squid. I was Army and Army reserve, 22 years. OIF and OEF vet. Thanks for all your great work, man! Not only have several of my students taken to your videos on their own, but I got my dad onto your stuff too. You ever get to Caro/ Thumb area, you let me know, and I'll be your tour guide.
@@andrewhoffman8427 LOL. I was in Caro yesterday for the Steam Tractor show. Actually, I just visited the old man who was camping at the fairgrounds. As an Air Force vet, he always "grumbled" at my military career choices. Just a day late in your post! I was station at Ft Bragg from 90-94 - spent a lot of time traveling to undesirable locations.
@@RestlessViking alright, well next time you're in the thumb area, let me know! You may have to put up with my toddler twins, but they're pretty funny escorts. The Octagon Barn is pretty close, as are the Petroglyphs, the little microclimate desert along the Cass River valley, and a few other cool places. And I release Chinook Salmon every spring into a local tributary for the SIC program. The old POW part of the fairgrounds got tore down a few years ago, but you likely knew that already. Keep being awesome, and a 2 days late Happy Airborne Day!
I had no idea any of these made it this far east. I have read several reports of balloons that made it to the West coast. And that a family friend n Oregon had been killed. Amazing that the people here were able to drag one home and not set it off. None of the stories I ever heard or read mentioned any in Michigan. Surprisingly to hear of so many. All the stories that head about smoke jumpers, do not mention the smoke jumpers originating from these incidents. Fascinating! Very interesting content.
@Restless Viking There is another Michigan connection to the Fu-Go bombs. My great uncle Walter Mack was a professor of microbiology at Michigan State University and one of his hobbies was collecting sand samples from around the world. He had an extensive collection of sand samples and was known for his expertise in this field of study. Walter was contacted by the military to identify where the sand from the balloon ballast bags was from and he was able to help identify the beach in Japan where the sand originated. The military later identified hydrogen production facilities nearby that were destroyed by B-29 bombing raids.
Big thanks to your Uncle, to think that studying sand could help the war effort in such a way. That's awesome.
After my Fathers death I found his coats, boots, canteen,ammo packs, belt, knife and his helmet along with a Samurai sword with documentation/permission papers to bring them home. I didn't even know he had them because he only spoke of the war one time to the whole family for just a few minutes. For some reason your comment made me think of him real hard. Sorry for rambling, I miss him.
I am really into WW2 history and I'm from Grand Rapids, MI so I have told this story before and no one believes me. I'm gonna send them here now lol. Love the video 🤙🤙
I know someone who found one Near Grand Rapids Mi. Near old Kent county airport.Heard this many years ago. Reported it and the Army picked it up. Never heard anything more
The widower was going to dissapear in Vietnam almost 17 years later.
Being born in the 80's and going to public schools, I always thought (and was taught) we were a free nation. It's so crazy to me the lies we've been told. Every war we've been in, is because the US found something of monetary gain. The greed and censorship is truly mind blowing to me. The older I get, Ive come to realize we are the land of the enslaved who believe we're free. The 13th amendment abolished slavery for Africans but in turn ensalved EVERY American. #TheMoreYouKnow 💫
I’ve been watching your channel for a couple years. I don’t know why it doesn’t get more traction.!
I have to be more consistent in posting videos and serious about expanding, I think. It is still a bit of a hobby for now. I think eventually it will do well. It isn't too bad for the few videos I post.
Very interesting, so glad the balloons were relatively ineffective. Also, gotta love the animation!
You guys have the best Michigan history videos I've ever seen. Keep up the good work. So interesting.
Fascinating. Thanks for the research and video!
Good job on the history of the balloon bombs, My Mother was the younger sister of the preachers wife Eva Winters Fowler. She was an avid history buff and spoke on several occasions about the incident and family history. My wife Bonnie and I were able to go to the 50th anniversary of the deaths in Bly Oregon. A very moving ceremony organized by the military including a missing man flyover by the air force. By the way my wife is a Danish Berserker. Trust me I have seen her in action.
LOL! Danish Berserker, eh! You've seen some stuff. I think you also sent a message through the website. I tried to respond, but hotmail kicked it back and said the email was unavailable.
that was really interesting.... I had and aunt and uncle and cousins who grew up outside of Dorr. Burups...
This was outstanding. You plumbed all angles of this history in a really interesting way, particularly the engineering aspect. While I live in Detroit I’ve spent a lot of time up in Cadillac / Meauwataka / Mesik region, it blows my mind that a balloon from Japan could make it all the way to our northern ramparts of the state. What is really interesting and instructive is the censorship employed to keep things silent. I’m very against censorship but keeping the Japanese in the dark re the effectiveness of their bombing campaign was advantageous. I’ll be debating that for a bit.
Great stuff.
There was military action back onto launch sites in Japan. Those sites were pinpointed, as you said, by analysis of sand in the sandbags. Each beach had mixes of different proportions of different minerals. Analysis uniquely identified each location. And the records were used to locate them.
For some reason, pre-war Japan contracted with an American to analyze and catalog beach sands for them. This information was used to pinpoint the launch site. Soon, a single B-29 photo reconnaissance overflew the site. A few days later, another B-29 came. It didn’t take pictures. They put the balloons out of business.
The Japanese are credited with discovery of jet streams. Before these balloons, jet streams weren’t documented.
Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
Great video! I'm familiar with the Japanese balloons on the west coast but never heard about them reaching as far as Michigan. I used to live in Farmington Hills and would like to research the balloon that landed in nearby Farmington.
I added some resources in the description that might be helpful. I have copies of the declassified Army intelligence report and MSP report for Farmington. Send me a message through our website if interested. Otherwise, there is a decent amount of info online.
There a small pond or lake west of that little town my spell check cant help me with. It's called carp lake, not far away. Its only maybe 3 acres but 90 feet deep in the middle. My fish graph shows a round object in 60 feet of water. This graph is not high end sonar by any means, but something is down there that is not supposed to be there!! Great video!!! I may go get me a divers certificate.
If that lake is west of Meauwataka? It is called Dayhuff lake. I grew up there. The property that the bomb landed was owned at the time by the Rogers family.
As far as the lake goes, if you look on Google earth and then use a topography overlay, you will notice a ancient river channel from east of Manton with quite a few ponds and small lakes that are in the path of this watershed that lead to a bowl shape where Dayhuff lake is located.
When at this lake and looking around you can clearly see that it sits in a very large bowl, approximately 3/4 of a mile surrounding it.
If you dive that lake, be very careful for there are springs that manifest in different locations on the floor.
As well if you go to that lake in the winter you will notice the lack of ice shanties because of the unstable (honeycomb) ice.
Strange area indeed!
You find some amazing stuff out there. Never heard of this but I’m glad I have now Way to go. I’m proud to be part of your Viking crew.
Thanks Denny! Glad to have you aboard!
I live in Allegan County, 146th street is in that county, granted Kent county is only a mile north. Was the balloon transported to Kent county? Wondering why KCSD deputies were dispatched. I stopped at the New Salem store only yesterday and have attended weddings at the church on 146th between 24th and 26th up on the hill. I had no idea that this had ever occurred. I would think that this is worthy of at least a roadside brass plaque that the Great Lakes State is so fond of.
I am told that Kent County often responded to Allegan County calls back then (for that area). The balloon was left at the farmhouse and Army Intelligence transported it the next day - I believe to Chicago. It was actually used by a balloonist after the war and later purchased by the Byron Center Historical Museum, where it is today.
@@RestlessViking I can see that, Allegan county would have had a much smaller Sheriffs department at the time and for 40+ years after that counties occasionally crossed jurisdictional lines. Plus this was wartime. My dad was a deputy/ later Sargent for an adjacent County SD from’71 to 2014.
Very cool story! I've never heard it before. The Meauwataka story is interesting because I live not far from that area. I also know a man named Don Wing who would have been a young boy in the 40s. I believe he lived in Cadillac at one time. I'll have to ask him if he knows anything about the story.
Way cool info. You guys are doing a great job! What fun!
Thanks so much!
This is a great video! I just used it in my Michigan History class today. I appreciate your work, and you're alright for a Navy guy.
LOL. Who you calling a "Navy Guy"? Airborne! All the way!
Glad you used it in class. Hopefully some knowledge stuck with them!
@@RestlessViking wait, you were Airborne also?! 1992, Ft Beginning, Georgia, baby! Not sure why I thought you were a squid. I was Army and Army reserve, 22 years. OIF and OEF vet. Thanks for all your great work, man! Not only have several of my students taken to your videos on their own, but I got my dad onto your stuff too. You ever get to Caro/ Thumb area, you let me know, and I'll be your tour guide.
@@andrewhoffman8427 LOL. I was in Caro yesterday for the Steam Tractor show. Actually, I just visited the old man who was camping at the fairgrounds. As an Air Force vet, he always "grumbled" at my military career choices. Just a day late in your post!
I was station at Ft Bragg from 90-94 - spent a lot of time traveling to undesirable locations.
@@RestlessViking alright, well next time you're in the thumb area, let me know! You may have to put up with my toddler twins, but they're pretty funny escorts.
The Octagon Barn is pretty close, as are the Petroglyphs, the little microclimate desert along the Cass River valley, and a few other cool places. And I release Chinook Salmon every spring into a local tributary for the SIC program. The old POW part of the fairgrounds got tore down a few years ago, but you likely knew that already. Keep being awesome, and a 2 days late Happy Airborne Day!
I remember reading about these when i was a kid. Cool stuff.
I had no idea any of these made it this far east. I have read several reports of balloons that made it to the West coast. And that a family friend n Oregon had been killed. Amazing that the people here were able to drag one home and not set it off. None of the stories I ever heard or read mentioned any in Michigan. Surprisingly to hear of so many.
All the stories that head about smoke jumpers, do not mention the smoke jumpers originating from these incidents. Fascinating!
Very interesting content.
Awesome video!
🎈 Great story! Never knew the balloons made it that far east, let alone worked! (Sort of.) Thanks! 😎✌️
Wonder why the "Under the Radar" guy has never covered this history. Still an awesome presentation a year later.
Fascinating. I remember my father talking about having to put balloon fires out in the forests of Washington State during WWII.
WOW! never knew fugos came here! thanks!
Might make for an interesting Michigan road trip. (hint hint)
Another addition of #mybrotheriscoolerthanyours He knows things
A TH-camr named "Wonder Hussy" reported on a balloon bomb of WW2 that killed six people in Oregon.
Michigan and the Unites States _were_ attacked (sorry, my mother was an English teacher).
China is launching them now.