I've visited Limoges a few times and stayed there for a few weeks too and you are so spot on, the people are so friendly, approachable and just treat you as an equal. I spoke to many people and never had one bad experience - it was just so enjoyable, everywhere I went. Such a lovely city. Paris is overwhelming, is so many ways.
Rewatching this a year and a half later and I'm impressed that your rent is Paris is the same as mine in La Rochelle (I was living in the UK when this was posted)
Welcome to France! La Rochelle is really nice, I love it there! (I've been twice, so I've seen it as a weekend trip, but hopefully it's nice to live there as well!). I agree with the rent in this apartment as being a good deal, but the fact it was unfurnished also lowers the price of rent!
Ive been in Rennes for 2 years . I’m American about to finish my masters degree. I prefer Rennes . Paris is fun to visit but to live it can be too chaotic for me. I’m from Los Angeles , I left because of the congestion, homeless problem, competitive job market , ridiculously expensive etc . Congrats on your French citizenship that’s my long term goal. I see you’re happier in Paris . Would be cool if you connect with Damon and do a collab .
Perhaps its not what country you live in that is important to you, but whether you before large cities or not. Large cities have advantages, especially for single people. But I find the intensity of them drains one down after a while. I have lived in London at various times, but I find everytime after the third or fourth year I want to get out. I don't know Rennes but I find in France Lyon or Marseilles have a lot going for them. Geneva (French Switzerland) is great too. I visited LA once as a teenager, definitely not for me! But that won't worry people from there I'm sure, many people are attracted to it!
@@simonsmatthew I live well with less money. I have a lot of resources as a student that I don’t have in the U.S. . Access to cheaper higher education, housing allowance , discounts and more importantly health insurance
That sounds great and a good fit for you in Rennes! That's one of the few cities in that region that I haven't visited yet, but it's definitely on my list! I heard it's a nice student city :). I've exchanged some messages with Damon a while back when I was still living in Limoges, but we never ended up meeting up...good idea I should hit him up to try to plan something! (PS: I moved back to Paris for work related purposes (currently on alternance), but when my program finishes I plan to move somewhere else more affordable and relaxed as well, probably Toulouse ^^)
@@isainrennes Makes a lot of sense. Life does seem to be hard for most people there; people seem to work long hours and have little leave. Vivre pour vivre!
I am French and you are totally right : i was born in Paris and raised there until I was 10 years old , my family is from Paris intra-muros since 3 generations.. I moved for south of France Mediterranean coast to Perpignan , so I experienced the both side of France and you are totally right . And even as a French woman I can say people from the province and southerners are more welcoming than Parisians. Good analysis of France 👌👌👌
Je vis à Avignon, je suis natif du Vaucluse, mais je ne crois pas du tout que les gens du sud (ou plutôt du grand sud-est, de Perpignan à Menton) soient plus accueillants qu'à Paris. Les gens du sud-est sont généralement assez agressifs et méfiants, et ont été rendus grincheux par la saturation touristique ; très différents des gens du sud-ouest, qui sont généralement plus spontanés et prévenants. Perpignan et ses quartiers résidentiels, qui ont poussé comme des champignons, ne me paraissent pas propices à un certain savoir-vire à la française, mais je peux me tromper.
It’s interesting as a native of New York City to hear how similar Parisians are in some ways. People are busy and don’t necessarily have time to stop and chat. That said, I’m lots older than you and think from what you’ve described, I’m leaning towards living outside of Paris. I love the excitement of living in a big city but am happy to chill most of the time. I’ve subscribed so I can hear more about your experiences! Great video!
I'd recommend Bordeaux. Large city but small enough to be manageable. Two hours by TGV to Paris. Easy access to the Atlantic coast. Magnificent architecture. Brilliant urban transport. Etc! When I feel like a bit of a change, I take the train from Limoges to Bordeaux for a few days!
I'm on the other side of life and will be retiring to the countryside south of Toulouse to a tiny village in Aude. Born in NYC, raised and based in Miami and a million mile traveler in my career, I'm done. It's time to be the old, cat lady living in the countryside. In my village there are 5 daily busses running between Toulouse and Perpignan. They're not high speed and stop at every village but these days they have chargers and WIFI and there's excellent data coverage almost everywhere. Podcasts are perfect so I can gaze out at the sites. Without my former life of high pressure schedules and ridiculous time zone changes every month the slower pace is what I want. I can visit Paris when I want and it will always be the greatest to me. You look great and your French and English are perfect. I subscribed so I'll use your youthful enthusiasm to relieve the stresses of putting all the moving and visas and details into action. Thank you for your work.
I just came across this video. Very well presented and in my view, quite accurate. I started off living in Toulouse, and I loved that city. The only thing is it's horrendously hot in summer, and having grown up in the south in the US, I've had enough of that for a lifetime. Now I live in Normandy, and definitely prefer that. I do hope to get French citizenship after I've been here long enough, congratulations on that for you. I was fortunate enough to be able to do the drivers license exchange as my license was in a State that has the exchange available (I know that California is strangely NOT one of those States). I lived in Fontainebleau a couple of years, and liked it there, and it was good because you can easily get to Paris with a Navigo card as much as you want. The only problem being that the buses from the Gare there do not run past around 10pm. I don't recall any rude people in Paris any time I've been there, and very few rude people in France anywhere I've been. I share your annoyance when you go into a place, speak French, and the person without asking changes to English. Once in a while I'll tell them (in French) that I have no need to practice English, and prefer to speak French unless they'd like to practice their English, then I can do that. But usually I do just what you do, keep responding in French until they switch back. I know they don't mean to be rude with it, but it is still annoying. Especially since I speak relatively fast in French, and am not struggling to speak it. Yes, I have an accent, but people seem to understand me just fine, and I've done all kinds of complicated stuff in France, particularly official stuff, with no problem at all.
really you can't have beer below 9 euros in Toulouse? i m quite sceptical honestly i only leave 100 km away and in a bar it s 2 or 2,5 euros the beer generally
@@cyanure1320 Did you mean that reply for me? I think it's meant for someone else as I didn't refer to beer or the price for it (which I don't know anyway, as I never drink it). Wine by the glass is around 3-5 euros usually, unless you're getting something extravagant.
@@RonRobertson-lafrance you refer that s the video is quite accurate, and the video "entre autres choses" refer to beer being at 9 euros in provinces vs 3.5 euros in paris . But seeing your answer i guess you meant some particular part in the video are well presented and accurate (because quite some parts are definitively BS). sorry for being annoying.
@@cyanure1320 As it's been months since I saw this video, I don't recall beer being discussed. But, I'll take your word for it on the beer. 9 euros does sound very high, for sure.
@@RonRobertson-lafrance yes sorry i just saw the video and i was a little unnerved about some of the point aborded. Sorry this was on your comment that i vent for nothing really important in reality. I hope you will have a good day and thank you for the conversation you were quite gentlemanly and calm comparatively to my immature behavior
Les Bouillons exist in Lyon as well. Les Leonnais will tell you that Paris is a great city, but the best food is found in Lyon.They are very poud of their cuisine and extremly welcoming to visitors who are intereted in food. They also have Les Bouchons....small family owned restaurants where the food is amazing et pas trop cher.
In Lyon they have Bouchons which is different then parisian Bouillons. Bouillons are big restaurants who serve simple food to a lot of people when Bouchons are small familial restaurants who serve more elaborate food.
Paris is superior to everyone bro, I lived in old Lyon and your food is greasy with your praline desserts for example... there are many more starred restaurants in Paris and there are plenty of world cuisines and then Paris has arthouse cinema, museums, theaters, painting galleries and many more shows than in Lyon...Paris crushes Lyon in all areas, sorry! but life is cheaper in Lyon. @@ericdams
I tried Paul Bocuse and he just deserves a Michelin star and the pink tower which no longer exists and Léon de Lyon and you can find much better in Paris but the Chez Georges brasserie in Lyon has no equivalent in Paris but the quality is nothing extraordinary.
@Michèle Sauret Merci pour vos commentaires ! En effet, vous avez raison par rapport aux villes et la campagne. Je n'ai pas expliqué dans la vidéo, mais j'ai vécu pendant un an dans un village à 30 minutes de Limoges à Oradour-sur-Glane parce que mon bureau y était. Et même quand j'ai déménagé à Limoges, je suis allé dans la campagne tous les jours pour aller au travail. Par rapport à Provence vs Province, peut-être vous parlez de mon accent ?
Hey ! I’m from south west France. Here, restaurants are usually a little bit pricier because we really care about the quality of the products. I’m not saying food quality in Paris is bad but here we emphasize on local producers so they are paid more fairly. Also we don’t have happy hour BUT our beer is so much cheaper ! You get a beer for 9€ in Paris but the equivalent can be for 5/6€ here I will say we are very friendly but it’s true we have our friend group for a long time and we don’t accept people easily. We will be friendly, show you the places around, will invite you to parties, but we won’t consider you a friend quickly. Our trust and loyalty really is earned. So yes it can be harder for someone to be integrated in a friend group. I will say however, once you are, you really are. Here, we have a train line to Bordeaux (2h) and Paris (4h) and have flights to go to the uk (London and Dublin mostly) and Paris. So yes we do not have much direct transport, for example, you can’t go to south east France from the south west by train directly… Also, yes we really have regions in France with specific cultures !! Basque Country is kind of a special case but we do have specific traditions and even languages ! Thanks for the video !
Hello ! Thank you for all your wonderful insights ! Which departement are you living in? The south of France from East to West are all such beautiful regions, I love visiting all around! That makes total sense about the prices for restaurants, and I guess that was the same in Limoges as well because they have a lot of agriculture that I'm sure the chefs are using directly from the source!
Avignon has a TGV station and Marseille Airport serves many international lines. The city is very old, but overall pretty lively. Might be too small for you though. It's not the richest city either but I would think it has everything you need to live well. There's a lot of wind called Mistral that comes and go. @@JordanPatrick
Bonjour *Jordan,* Ça fait plaisir de te (re)voir apparemment très en forme. Concernant la province et les moyens de transports, en réalité, ça dépend beaucoup des endroits. Il y a aujourd'hui de nombreuses grandes villes de province qui ont développé leurs infrastructures pour y intégrer le tramway et désengorger les centres-villes des véhicules motorisés pour les rendre piétonniers et beaucoup plus agréables à fréquenter. Les vélos aussi sont disponibles, et même les trottinettes électriques. C'est, par exemple, le cas d'Orléans où j'ai vécu quelques années ou de Perpignan où je vis actuellement (il n'y a pas de tramway à Perpignan, mais on a la location de trottinettes et vélos, et, le maillage des transports en commun est assez dense pour que l'on puisse se passer d'une voiture - c'est mon cas). Je ne connais pas Limoges, il m'est donc difficile d'en parler. Le bon conseil à donner à des étrangers voulant s'installer ici dans des villes provinciales, serait de bien se renseigner avant si c'est le cas ou non... Pour ce qui est de la mentalité province-Paris, oui, contrairement aux provinciaux qui se disent toujours beaucoup plus accueillants que les Parisiens, blablabla, les Parisiens sont des c, etc., c'est totalement faux. Que ce soit à Orléans ou ici à Perpignan, il est quasi impossible de s'intégrer à des groupes locaux. On ne peut que s'intégrer à des groupes de Parisiens comme soi. J'ai un exemple très concret : Quand j'étais beaucoup plus jeune, un ami à moi, avait l'habitude de ramener son meilleur pote de vacances qui vivait dans le sud en ProvEnce (et non en province, lol). Nous l'avions de suite intégré à notre groupe d'amis et il partageait toutes nos sorties et virées. Deux ou trois ans plus tard, avec mon pote parisien (nous sommes de la banlieue, je précise), nous sommes allés faire les vendanges près de chez lui, en Provence, donc. Quelle ne fut pas ma surprise de voir comment nous étions assez souvent mis à l'écart. Par exemple, un soir, il y avait une petite fête au village où nous séjournions. Mon pote et moi nous étions assis à une très longue table avec une multitude de chaises disponibles et sirotions un pastis en attendant que son ami et sa troupe de copains viennent nous rejoindre. Ils sont tous arrivés, nous ont bien sûr serré la main, ont pris le temps de discuter deux ou trois minutes avec nous et plaisanter. Puis très décontractés nous ont laissé là pour aller s'assoir tous ensemble à une table de même taille que la nôtre, mais juste en face de nous. Il restait bien trois quatre places assises de disponibles à leur table. Pourtant à aucun moment, ils ne nous ont adressé la parole, ou mieux encore, proposé de venir les rejoindre. C'est comme si, nous n'existions plus. J'ai halluciné ! Le seul avec qui l'on a vraiment sympathisé sur place, c'était un peintre (d'art) un peu excentrique avec qui l'on a partagé des moments mémorables de franche rigolade. Mais, je vous le donne en mille Émile ; c'était un Parisien. Ça ne s'invente pas. Le seul endroit où les gens du cru se sont montrés vraiment très amicaux et accueillants dans la même situation ; un pote parisien qui nous ramenait régulièrement un, deux, ou même trois de ses amis du centre de la France (la France profonde, comme on dit ici), dans le Berry, que l'on intégrait à chaque fois dans notre groupe sans distinction. Là, rien à dire. À chaque fois que je suis venu, moi et d'autres potes parisiens, leur rendre visite dans le Berry, les gens étaient super sympas. On mangeait très bien. C'était totalement la bonne franquette, ils nous invitaient à dormir chez eux, pas de problème, toujours prêts à ouvrir un canapé ou mettre un matelas par terre ; des gens simples et adorables, rien à dire. Paix, les gens.
Thank you! Excellent video(s). We lived in Valencia for a bit. My first college courses were at COC! Transferred to UC Berkeley, then back to LA for my EdD. Now I am a retired American educator. We helped a new school open in Lviv, then spent 6 weeks in Ktakow; we're in Tallinn for a month before heading back to Oregon. My wife and I hope to visit France after the Olympics. We plan to sell our Portland condo, and then move to France. We will rent so we can travel throughout Europe. Living in France has several significant advantages: climate, healthcare, culture, and infrastructure. And the taxes are better in France than in any other European country! But will it be the city or the country???? Thanks again! Dean and Cindy.
Ou là là attention en France nous sommes le pays le plus taxer et où les impôts sont le plus important, et cz va certainement pas s'arranger vu l'endettement abyssal que nous laisse notre président Macron l'état français et en faillite tout se degrade à vu d'œil, mon si Beau pays que j'aime tant à été totalement et délibérément détruit. Pauvre France d'une française de La Ville de Nancy ven Lorraine 😊😊😊❤❤❤
@@carolinefavier-bz6tx Bonjour Nancy in Lorraine. I am sad to hear that France is suffering. Do you believe the new government will improve the country? I understand the taxes are high in France, but I also read that France provides many services. We hope that America survives our current political problem. Are you familiar with Perpignan and Ceret? It looks so peaceful. Merci. Dean & Cindy
@@DeanRamserMerci Dean d'avoir lu mon commentaire, je pense malheureusement que le nouveau gouvernement ne continu d'enfoncer la France dans la crise ils remettent déjà en cause bon nombre d'acquis sociaux que nos aïeux ont acquis avec bravoure, pour répondre à votre question je pense que Perpignan est une ville super avec un climat méditerranée doux en hiver un peu comme votre Californie 😊😊, cette ville offre de nombreux atouts Gare TVG aéroport, bus qui déserte toute la ville de tel façon qu'on est pas obliger de prendre sa voiture et cette proximité avec L'Espagne 😊❤❤ , je pense que la vie y est très agréable ayant une voisine qui procéde un appartement elle part chaque été 4 mois elle adore. Au plaisir de vous lire à bientôt Dean bonjour à votre famille😊😊
@@DeanRamser bonjour Dean j'ai malheureusement peur que le nouveau gouvernement d'aggrave encore la situation c'est les mêmes qu'avant, déjà ils vont moins bien rembourser les consultations chez les médecins et donc ont va payer plus de mutuelle privée, la France est un pays en faillite, je pense que vous USA la situation est meilleure. Pour répondre à votre question quant à la ville de Perpignan c'est une très belle ville au climat méditerranéen un peu comme votre Californie en un peu moins chaud, elle a toute les transports souhaiter bus , gare , aéroport le centre ville est dotée des transports en commun de cette façon pas besoin de prendre son automobile, la France reste quand même un pays où la douceur de vivre est toujours là, au plaisir de vous lire Bonlour à votre Famille Cordialement Caroline de Nancy
@@carolinefavier-bz6tx Bonjour Caroline. Thank you for your insight and knowledge. France seems to be fully engaged in correcting any problems from the Covid pandemic. America is almost back to its normal financial state, in some cases, America is healthier. However, our politics are looney stupid now. Sad. Tragic. The art of meaningful dialogue is lost. France, despite its challenges, looks to be a better fit for us. We are 67 and looking for meaningful conversations. Europe offers that. But first we must sell our condo in Portland. Merci!! Dean & Cindy
Toulouse is my beloved city, it's perfect in my opinion, just enought activities, close to mountains or seas and even the airport for traveling. Would love to see more foreigners coming here to speak about it. (At least I would love to make friends with anyone coming here xD)
I am interested in that region. Is there is good transportation as far as metro and buses over there. Is the rent affordable and are apartments spacious?
@@alluringbliss4165 yes, métro bus and tram, and a New metro Line IS under work, should be done fore 2028 i think. Also many New bicycle roads are created every year.
Interesting video. I'd like to share my experience... I'm French but moved to London in 1998, loved it even though rents were even more expensive than Paris. A studio right now would be at least €1200-1500 a month, and it was always expensive my whole time there, so I always had to share houses or flats, mostly it was amazing with the right people, sometimes it was dreadful with less than nice people - luckily my bad experiences were only for 2 years, I lived with some of the most genuinely friendly people most of the time and we had the best time. In 2022, I had the opportunity to leave London to move to the seaside in East Sussex with one of my best friends ever (our flat has sea views and in 30 seconds I can be on the beach - I just have to cross the road!). As you have experienced, rents are much cheaper here, a studio for €700 in London is simply impossible, you get 1 room in a shared house or flat for that. Here we pay €450 each for a 2-bedroom lovely flat. But yes, there is less to do. But apart from the winter months which can be boring, I much prefer living here than London, which is becoming unaffordable quickly. People are generally nicer and friendlier (I've yet to meet a rude person in shops after 2 years, which was a regular occurence in London), going out to great restaurants (great foodie scene here) works out slightly cheaper (I expected it would be much cheaper!), but above all, I value a gentler pace of life and less stress. And if I miss London, I can go by train in only 90 minutes! I don't regret leaving the big city one bit!
Very informative, I'm moving to the provinces next year and for me anything is cheaper than the UK, rent, food.. etc. But then I'm nearer retirement than the other end so I really want my own house with plenty of space for not a huge outlay and I know I wouldn't get that in Paris or major cities in France and definitely not in the UK! Merci beaucoup Jordan :)
Paris is big, also has a country side and you can get all types of apartments. Starting at less than 1000 euros /km² So you can definitely have a huge house if you want to.
You speak French well. It would be worth your taking some advanced lessons now, and you will make great strides in your powers of expression in French. (You said "note" for "score" and "expositions" for "exhibitions", he, he 😉)
Salut, avec ton expérience je comprends ton avis. En fait dans les grandes villes tu peux te faire plus facilement des copains, dans les petites villes où villages les gens ont plus d'amis que de copains, les rapports ne sont pas les mêmes avec les amis les relations sont plus profondes c'est pourquoi il est plus difficile d'intégrer un groupe d'amis ce n'est pas parce que tu es étranger c'est plus long qu'avec des copains mais ça fini par arriver c'est juste plus long. A Paris comme tu l'as dit les gens vivent dans des petits appartements et donc sortent souvent pour retrouver des copains, en province les gens vivent plus dans des maisons avec un extérieur où il est plus facile et plus agréable de recevoir copains et amis enfin là où je vis en camargue ça se passe comme ça....tu devrais y faire un tour il y a du bon vin, de bonnes choses à manger et tu apprendras de nouveaux mots de français...
Hey thanks! For short stays, I would recommend looking on Booking, or Air Bnb, because you won't be able to get a housing contract for less than a year!
Hi Jordan, welcome back! I pretty much had the same experience as you, except that I come from Ile de France and not California ;): I have been living in "la province" for 10 years now and the conclusion is exactly the same as yours. It is crazy how much I feel the same thing as you! If I had the choice, I would return to Ile de France now. I love walking, meeting people from all over the world, architecture, culture, the choice of activities and restaurants. And it can also feel creepy sometimes when you meet nobody in small cities or villages: I can relate! Have a nice day, Stéphanie.
Making friends in a new town in France is hard even for french. Like you said people already have established groups. It's a bit easier in universities towns because of the greater turn over 😊
Haha yeah it was a gift from a friend on mine in Limoges who framed my article and gave it to me :). It was cool to be recognized for the effort I was making at the beginning of my TH-cam journey :)
Bravo Jordan Patrick. N’oublies pas de te protéger les oreilles quand tu fais du fais du sport à côté du musée du Louvres à Paris . Merci beaucoup pour ton sens de l’humour et surtout pour ton esprit de partage ! 👏👍😉😂
Just stumbled across your vlog. I’m Welsh and moved to live Brittany 5 years ago and I know my french has a Brittany accent. Do people in Paris ever tell you if you have a Limoges accent?
i think you're wrong on some things, happy hours exist in the south of France, a beer is usualy 3€ to 3€50 without happy hour prices. We have way cheaper restaurants too, like "routiers" or village brasseries, where you can have a full menu (entrée+plat+dessert+coffee+wine) around 15€ to 20€. Provence is a region in the south east, "proviiince" is France without Paris. But don't get me wrong, i loved your video. You're very cute too.
Interesting observations! (No offense, but please check your spelling: Provence is spelled with an “e” not “i”). More importantly, I am really surprised you could even find an apartment for 700 euro in an arrondissement around Paris. And, I definitely needed to hear the comment about the restaurants. Never even thought could afford Paris, but planning to rent in Provence -around Toulon area for up to 1500 euros. Will be retired couple. Maybe outside Paris or Lyon should be considered also.
That's an amazing goal and dream to have! Playing for a team like PSG or L'OM in the beginning might be more realistic, because you have to be French to play for the French national team, but if you play for another team in France and then become French, then your dream can happen! :)
Nothing wrong with bringing a provincial but Paris is Paris & you can’t find what you get in Paris anywhere in the provinces. Big town like Paris, Nice, Lyon, Montpellier have much more & for people who want a varied lifestyle then living in provinces is a no no.
Passer un examen = sit an exam. Réussir un examen = pass an exam. Don't worry, I've been learning, speaking, writing, reading French for 64 years and I still make mistakes 😔. You have attained a good standard of the language, keep going!
OK, I also have experience in living abroad. The single biggest mistake is to speak your own language - not for any political reasons, its simply for oneself. It means "we not making any progress, we're not learning anything, we're not going to get anywhere". In short - we might as well be at home - what's the point if it all ?? In my case, it wasn't difficult - there simply aren't any English speakers. Brilliant - that's how to get a head start. In your case - maybe you should have gone en province right from the start. What about somewhere a bit nearer, like in the île de France.? Anyway, thumbs up.
Bravo Jordan pour toutes tes vidéos TH-cam. 😉On t’aime. Conduire une voiture, un véhicule, dans toutes les provinces de France est bien plus facile que conduire à Paris ou en Ile de France. ^^
Merci beaucoup ! Oui j'ai préféré les routes ailleurs ça c'est sûr ! Mais encore mieux je trouve le système de transport un commun dans les plus grandes villes !
hhh.. de toute la province, tu as choisi la ville la moins dotée et la moins équipée de France. Limoges n'est vraiment pas un bon exemple pour comparer avec la province. Je ne dis pas qu'il faille prendre les meilleurs exemples. Mais Limoges est clairement en dessous de la moyenne niveau équipement et infrastructure en province. Sinon, la vidéo est cool. ça servira sûrement de référence aux étrangers.
Im french Canadian, Ive always been curious of what french people thought of us in France? I know the language is slightly different but do they see our french as an insult? 😂
You cant compare both if you want busy city life go to city or if you want country life with acres of land and animals and freedom to do whatever you want go to country
Ohhh you're right, I didn't even think of that topic for this video, but if you haven't already seen my Dating video with differences between the US and France, here it is! th-cam.com/video/__uSwTICwKs/w-d-xo.html Maybe I should do a video about dating differences between Limoges and Paris !
Just in case you don't know, Paris is NOT the only big city in France. Lyons, Marseille, Toulouse, Bordeaux Montpellier, Strasbourg, Lille have certainly not much to do with the countryside around Limoges where you apparently live. Thanks anyway.
Hello! Of course I know that and have been to all of the cities you mentioned ^^. If you watched the video you would know that I talk about a lot of those cities when I explain there are other big cities across France that some of these points don't relate to because they are more developed on an city scale such as city bikes and public transportation etc. Maybe watch the whole video next time before commenting, just a thought! Have a nice day!
Bonjour, merci pour vos commentaires....je parlais de province, peut-être vous parlez de mon accent ? J'ai clairement voulu prononcer le mot « Province » et ça se voit dans tous les mots écrits au cours de cette vidéo, ainsi que dans la vignette comme vous pouvez le voir, alors excusez mon accent... voilà
I've had places in Paris that were half this size for only 60€/month less. On average small studios between 9-12 sq meters would cost around 600€ so I'd say this place is a fairly good deal for Paris. But this size of a place in other French cities would cost between 300-400€ so it's still a huge difference monthly rent wise ^^. I have multiple friends who have one bedroom apartments that are around 30-35 sq meters and they pay about 1,200€/month (basically twice what I'm paying) so I'm pretty happy with what I found!
@@JordanPatrick yes but living in the countryside is a pain and you lose so much money on petrol and the price of stuff generally being much more expensive or having to drive an hour to buy something... so I think it really weighs itself out... you don't need a car in Paris that's a massive saving. I have been living 1hr away from lyon and paying the same as if I were central lyon because the countryside outside cities can be equally as expensive - also they put rental ceilings on in lyon meaning the rent can't go above that price, but the same rules don't apply in other area like posh villages like here where the rent prices have gone through the roof... so it really depends where you go in france and which countryside... we used to live in the suburbs of Paris and paid around 900 per month for a tiny 2 bed - 50sqm apartment, it was 25 mins walk to the train and 45 mins on train to central Paris... very far out and very expensive. that's why I am surprised at how much you are paying. it sounds ok to me.
Thanks for the video. One recurring issue throughout your video (which makes it hard to follow) is that you pronounce "province" as "Provence." Provence is la province, but not all province is in Provence, least of all Limoges. Secondly, Limoges is not really the countryside, but a smaller "provincial" town. Nonetheless, you make some good points. Did you ever stop to think that one reason the provinciaux may not have too quick to adopt you is on account of you having "Fluctuat nec mergitur" tatooed on your arm? Pretty well everyone in France knows that that is Paris' motto, and that would potentially brand you as a Parigot. Parisians are not always well-liked by the more narrow-minded provinciaux.
Congrats! You are officially and definitely Parisian for calling anything and everything that revolves around Paris, Province! Very city dwellish and ethnocentric! How can you encompass just about anything in one area? I love how all these (anglophile) city dwellers travel the world and post their humble opinion about their surroundings. Oh, is it called "sharing one's experience" is it?
@nicolaslegrand9414: this guy is making a lot of sense. I have lived in several places in various regions, it’s just not the same. Nothing is as cheap a you think it’s going to be. Only realestate with regards to buying is much cheaper because there is not much competition & it’s not the same in sleepy hollow. The young are leaving in droves as there is nothing much when the places closes down at midday Sunday & closed on Mondays in a lot of towns & it’s dead boring. Even people over 70 get bored. Country folk are very insular & close minded & are afraid of change & scared of losing their culture which is hilarious. The harder they try the quicker their culture will die as the young don’t stay in these small towns with nothing to do. It’s the expats who want quite lives they make these countryside towns, otherwise without the expats the countryside would have died a long time. Nice & Lyon are the other places worth living in & a couple of others but the countryside is a no no if you want convenience & fun & entertainment.
In practice, Paris is a separate country, with different culture, economy and social rules. 😂 Just like every remote island in the Atlantic of Pacific ocean that is still part of the French territory as its own cultural and economical traits.😁
Hello, Provence is a region in the south, Province is a term which refers to the rest of France outside Paris (Île-de-France)... I also didn't know the difference early in my French life ^^, but a friend corrected me once a few years ago, so now I know and so do you!
Too bad it was in Limoges you went to instead of a younger, more cultured place like Toulouse. It is the city after Paris that has the most students & thé apéro & night life is well & alive down here..especially since the weather allows much more open terraces. I can see why you prefer Paris to Limoges..even the French would prefer Paris to Limoges & that’s saying a lot 😂
True and of course not! Why would they! ^^ Just like Parisians don't call each other Parisians (unless you're foreign or from province and want to pick on someone who was born and raised here ^^)
I'm not dissing on Limoges, but you cannot compare a metropolis like Paris with over 10M people with a small city like Limoges with barely 200k inhabitants. I think you would have been better off living in a bigger city like Toulouse, Bordeaux or Nantes. They are still small compared to Paris but have more of the offers you like in Paris. Also, you limited your potential hook ups by living there, unless you intended on being the next gay candidate on L'amour est dans le pré. 🤣
True...of course there are gonna be differences between a big city and a smaller city, but I wanted to share a foreigners perspective who's lived in both. Most étrangers have only lived in Paris and have no idea about how life is outside Paris ...donc me voilà je racconte tout ! ^^
I can see what you mean in France for sure, "pas cher" is mostly used to describe something as inexpensive. However I'm not sure if the logic is similar to all countries throughout Europe, because in Spain they use "barato" which mean cheap
@@JordanPatrick very cheap is often a downgrade in European culture not sure how can be called French food very cheap.. American English isn’t very selective.. lot of American label things “very cheap”.
I recently learned that thousands of Jewish French citizens have been fleeing France and seeking asylum in Israel due to increased anti-Semitism from the large Muslim population in France. The media seems to be hesitant to report on this, perhaps because it might cause it to escalate. Have you heard anything about this? Thanks!
oh wow, no I haven't heard about that...that's pretty alarming if it's the case. I generally believe that France is a welcoming and safe country, so it's really sad if groups of people don't feel safe and protected here.
From the Jews I've met (I live in a Parisian suburb), the answer to your question is 'Yes'. I have worked with Muslims in the US and France and the hate coming from this group is very real. They are angry for the simply fact that they feel their life and values are being restricted by you (the non-Muslim) and especially by Jews.
As an adopted citizen of this beautiful country, I'm more proud to be French because I wasn't born a French man, therefore I consider myself French-American. You might consider it differently and that's ok
@@JordanPatrick I understand, but the designation does not depend on one's feelings. I was born in the US and am a naturalized Dutch citizen. I feel more Dutch than American yet I am properly referred to as American-Dutch.
I was in Paris loong ago...i was Disgust with that Arabic poverty ..i would never live there ..the same is with London...Smaller cities in France or UK are much better..i am from Croatia..but wish I can live in the middle of France...Brexit stope me to stay in UK..and huge criminal i never experiance before even in NYC and NJ
I'd agree that crime rates tend to be higher in and around bigger cities for sure. Central smaller towns are much cozier with nicer people you can trust!
I've visited Limoges a few times and stayed there for a few weeks too and you are so spot on, the people are so friendly, approachable and just treat you as an equal.
I spoke to many people and never had one bad experience - it was just so enjoyable, everywhere I went.
Such a lovely city.
Paris is overwhelming, is so many ways.
Rewatching this a year and a half later and I'm impressed that your rent is Paris is the same as mine in La Rochelle (I was living in the UK when this was posted)
Welcome to France! La Rochelle is really nice, I love it there! (I've been twice, so I've seen it as a weekend trip, but hopefully it's nice to live there as well!). I agree with the rent in this apartment as being a good deal, but the fact it was unfurnished also lowers the price of rent!
Ive been in Rennes for 2 years . I’m American about to finish my masters degree. I prefer Rennes . Paris is fun to visit but to live it can be too chaotic for me. I’m from Los Angeles , I left because of the congestion, homeless problem, competitive job market , ridiculously expensive etc .
Congrats on your French citizenship that’s my long term goal. I see you’re happier in Paris . Would be cool if you connect with Damon and do a collab .
Perhaps its not what country you live in that is important to you, but whether you before large cities or not. Large cities have advantages, especially for single people. But I find the intensity of them drains one down after a while. I have lived in London at various times, but I find everytime after the third or fourth year I want to get out. I don't know Rennes but I find in France Lyon or Marseilles have a lot going for them. Geneva (French Switzerland) is great too. I visited LA once as a teenager, definitely not for me! But that won't worry people from there I'm sure, many people are attracted to it!
@@simonsmatthew I live well with less money. I have a lot of resources as a student that I don’t have in the U.S. . Access to cheaper higher education, housing allowance , discounts and more importantly health insurance
That sounds great and a good fit for you in Rennes! That's one of the few cities in that region that I haven't visited yet, but it's definitely on my list! I heard it's a nice student city :). I've exchanged some messages with Damon a while back when I was still living in Limoges, but we never ended up meeting up...good idea I should hit him up to try to plan something!
(PS: I moved back to Paris for work related purposes (currently on alternance), but when my program finishes I plan to move somewhere else more affordable and relaxed as well, probably Toulouse ^^)
@@isainrennes Makes a lot of sense. Life does seem to be hard for most people there; people seem to work long hours and have little leave. Vivre pour vivre!
Toulouse is really nice, the food scene I found it great pre-covid. It's a more studenty city as well. @@JordanPatrick
I am French and you are totally right : i was born in Paris and raised there until I was 10 years old , my family is from Paris intra-muros since 3 generations.. I moved for south of France Mediterranean coast to Perpignan , so I experienced the both side of France and you are totally right . And even as a French woman I can say people from the province and southerners are more welcoming than Parisians. Good analysis of France 👌👌👌
Je vis à Avignon, je suis natif du Vaucluse, mais je ne crois pas du tout que les gens du sud (ou plutôt du grand sud-est, de Perpignan à Menton) soient plus accueillants qu'à Paris. Les gens du sud-est sont généralement assez agressifs et méfiants, et ont été rendus grincheux par la saturation touristique ; très différents des gens du sud-ouest, qui sont généralement plus spontanés et prévenants. Perpignan et ses quartiers résidentiels, qui ont poussé comme des champignons, ne me paraissent pas propices à un certain savoir-vire à la française, mais je peux me tromper.
It’s interesting as a native of New York City to hear how similar Parisians are in some ways. People are busy and don’t necessarily have time to stop and chat. That said, I’m lots older than you and think from what you’ve described, I’m leaning towards living outside of Paris. I love the excitement of living in a big city but am happy to chill most of the time. I’ve subscribed so I can hear more about your experiences! Great video!
As a New Yorker I have to agree, however, I find New Yorkers tend to be friendlier
I'd recommend Bordeaux. Large city but small enough to be manageable. Two hours by TGV to Paris. Easy access to the Atlantic coast. Magnificent architecture. Brilliant urban transport. Etc! When I feel like a bit of a change, I take the train from Limoges to Bordeaux for a few days!
I'm on the other side of life and will be retiring to the countryside south of Toulouse to a tiny village in Aude. Born in NYC, raised and based in Miami and a million mile traveler in my career, I'm done. It's time to be the old, cat lady living in the countryside. In my village there are 5 daily busses running between Toulouse and Perpignan. They're not high speed and stop at every village but these days they have chargers and WIFI and there's excellent data coverage almost everywhere. Podcasts are perfect so I can gaze out at the sites. Without my former life of high pressure schedules and ridiculous time zone changes every month the slower pace is what I want. I can visit Paris when I want and it will always be the greatest to me.
You look great and your French and English are perfect. I subscribed so I'll use your youthful enthusiasm to relieve the stresses of putting all the moving and visas and details into action. Thank you for your work.
Hi, which village? We are looking in this area for next year when we retire to France (french, living in FL). Thanks!
Your plans sound Devine 🐈💕
Hi there cat lady I am about to move to this region as well. Currently I am in Spain, but only for a few more month. Wanna connect?
How is your transition going? I'm moving to Limoux. Did you ship your belongings?
Make sure you find the local TNR volunteer group, you will make friends that way!
I just came across this video. Very well presented and in my view, quite accurate. I started off living in Toulouse, and I loved that city. The only thing is it's horrendously hot in summer, and having grown up in the south in the US, I've had enough of that for a lifetime. Now I live in Normandy, and definitely prefer that. I do hope to get French citizenship after I've been here long enough, congratulations on that for you. I was fortunate enough to be able to do the drivers license exchange as my license was in a State that has the exchange available (I know that California is strangely NOT one of those States). I lived in Fontainebleau a couple of years, and liked it there, and it was good because you can easily get to Paris with a Navigo card as much as you want. The only problem being that the buses from the Gare there do not run past around 10pm. I don't recall any rude people in Paris any time I've been there, and very few rude people in France anywhere I've been. I share your annoyance when you go into a place, speak French, and the person without asking changes to English. Once in a while I'll tell them (in French) that I have no need to practice English, and prefer to speak French unless they'd like to practice their English, then I can do that. But usually I do just what you do, keep responding in French until they switch back. I know they don't mean to be rude with it, but it is still annoying. Especially since I speak relatively fast in French, and am not struggling to speak it. Yes, I have an accent, but people seem to understand me just fine, and I've done all kinds of complicated stuff in France, particularly official stuff, with no problem at all.
really you can't have beer below 9 euros in Toulouse? i m quite sceptical honestly i only leave 100 km away and in a bar it s 2 or 2,5 euros the beer generally
@@cyanure1320 Did you mean that reply for me? I think it's meant for someone else as I didn't refer to beer or the price for it (which I don't know anyway, as I never drink it). Wine by the glass is around 3-5 euros usually, unless you're getting something extravagant.
@@RonRobertson-lafrance you refer that s the video is quite accurate, and the video "entre autres choses" refer to beer being at 9 euros in provinces vs 3.5 euros in paris .
But seeing your answer i guess you meant some particular part in the video are well presented and accurate (because quite some parts are definitively BS).
sorry for being annoying.
@@cyanure1320 As it's been months since I saw this video, I don't recall beer being discussed. But, I'll take your word for it on the beer. 9 euros does sound very high, for sure.
@@RonRobertson-lafrance yes sorry i just saw the video and i was a little unnerved about some of the point aborded. Sorry this was on your comment that i vent for nothing really important in reality. I hope you will have a good day and thank you for the conversation you were quite gentlemanly and calm comparatively to my immature behavior
Hello Jordan, greetings from San Diego. Enjoy watching your videos whenever you have time to make them.
Thanks man, glad to hear you're enjoying them! Hopefully I'll get my consistent routine back soon!
Les Bouillons exist in Lyon as well. Les Leonnais will tell you that Paris is a great city, but the best food is found in Lyon.They are very poud of their cuisine and extremly welcoming to visitors who are intereted in food. They also have Les Bouchons....small family owned restaurants where the food is amazing et pas trop cher.
Lyon also used to be France's capital when it was named Lugdunum under the Roman empire. For me, Lyon is way better than Paris except for jobs.
In Lyon they have Bouchons which is different then parisian Bouillons.
Bouillons are big restaurants who serve simple food to a lot of people when Bouchons are small familial restaurants who serve more elaborate food.
On en a pas à Montpellier je crois
Paris is superior to everyone bro, I lived in old Lyon and your food is greasy with your praline desserts for example... there are many more starred restaurants in Paris and there are plenty of world cuisines and then Paris has arthouse cinema, museums, theaters, painting galleries and many more shows than in Lyon...Paris crushes Lyon in all areas, sorry! but life is cheaper in Lyon. @@ericdams
I tried Paul Bocuse and he just deserves a Michelin star and the pink tower which no longer exists and Léon de Lyon and you can find much better in Paris but the Chez Georges brasserie in Lyon has no equivalent in Paris but the quality is nothing extraordinary.
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Haha surprise!!!!! I'm back!!!!
I absolutely loved your comparative video. It was beautifully done ✔️ Merci Beaucoup.🎉😂
Merci, c'est gentil ! ^^
Thank, man! I'm in SoCal right now, and plan to move to France some time in the future. Really a true help. Thanks again, Jordan!😃🤙👍
You're welcome! That's great to hear and I'm glad these cultural videos are helpful to you!
Glad to see you back making content. Thanks for sharing another great video.
Attention, vous dites Provence au lieu de province. Et Limoge n'est pas à la campagne mais en ville, la campagne c'est en dehors de toute ville.....
@@michelesauret7779 Merci pour ces précisions !
@Michèle Sauret Merci pour vos commentaires ! En effet, vous avez raison par rapport aux villes et la campagne. Je n'ai pas expliqué dans la vidéo, mais j'ai vécu pendant un an dans un village à 30 minutes de Limoges à Oradour-sur-Glane parce que mon bureau y était. Et même quand j'ai déménagé à Limoges, je suis allé dans la campagne tous les jours pour aller au travail. Par rapport à Provence vs Province, peut-être vous parlez de mon accent ?
Hey ! I’m from south west France. Here, restaurants are usually a little bit pricier because we really care about the quality of the products. I’m not saying food quality in Paris is bad but here we emphasize on local producers so they are paid more fairly.
Also we don’t have happy hour BUT our beer is so much cheaper ! You get a beer for 9€ in Paris but the equivalent can be for 5/6€ here
I will say we are very friendly but it’s true we have our friend group for a long time and we don’t accept people easily. We will be friendly, show you the places around, will invite you to parties, but we won’t consider you a friend quickly. Our trust and loyalty really is earned. So yes it can be harder for someone to be integrated in a friend group. I will say however, once you are, you really are.
Here, we have a train line to Bordeaux (2h) and Paris (4h) and have flights to go to the uk (London and Dublin mostly) and Paris. So yes we do not have much direct transport, for example, you can’t go to south east France from the south west by train directly…
Also, yes we really have regions in France with specific cultures !! Basque Country is kind of a special case but we do have specific traditions and even languages !
Thanks for the video !
Hello ! Thank you for all your wonderful insights ! Which departement are you living in? The south of France from East to West are all such beautiful regions, I love visiting all around! That makes total sense about the prices for restaurants, and I guess that was the same in Limoges as well because they have a lot of agriculture that I'm sure the chefs are using directly from the source!
@@JordanPatrick Basque Country 😌
Avignon has a TGV station and Marseille Airport serves many international lines. The city is very old, but overall pretty lively. Might be too small for you though. It's not the richest city either but I would think it has everything you need to live well. There's a lot of wind called Mistral that comes and go. @@JordanPatrick
4:48 heuuu...non non! 😂 T'as des happy hour dans quasiment tous les bars de toutes les grandes villes 😊. Ou plutôt des villes étudiantes dirons-nous
Good to see you back doing videos Jordan
Bonjour *Jordan,*
Ça fait plaisir de te (re)voir apparemment très en forme.
Concernant la province et les moyens de transports, en réalité, ça dépend beaucoup des endroits. Il y a aujourd'hui de nombreuses grandes villes de province qui ont développé leurs infrastructures pour y intégrer le tramway et désengorger les centres-villes des véhicules motorisés pour les rendre piétonniers et beaucoup plus agréables à fréquenter.
Les vélos aussi sont disponibles, et même les trottinettes électriques.
C'est, par exemple, le cas d'Orléans où j'ai vécu quelques années ou de Perpignan où je vis actuellement (il n'y a pas de tramway à Perpignan, mais on a la location de trottinettes et vélos, et, le maillage des transports en commun est assez dense pour que l'on puisse se passer d'une voiture - c'est mon cas).
Je ne connais pas Limoges, il m'est donc difficile d'en parler.
Le bon conseil à donner à des étrangers voulant s'installer ici dans des villes provinciales, serait de bien se renseigner avant si c'est le cas ou non...
Pour ce qui est de la mentalité province-Paris, oui, contrairement aux provinciaux qui se disent toujours beaucoup plus accueillants que les Parisiens, blablabla, les Parisiens sont des c, etc., c'est totalement faux.
Que ce soit à Orléans ou ici à Perpignan, il est quasi impossible de s'intégrer à des groupes locaux. On ne peut que s'intégrer à des groupes de Parisiens comme soi.
J'ai un exemple très concret : Quand j'étais beaucoup plus jeune, un ami à moi, avait l'habitude de ramener son meilleur pote de vacances qui vivait dans le sud en ProvEnce (et non en province, lol).
Nous l'avions de suite intégré à notre groupe d'amis et il partageait toutes nos sorties et virées.
Deux ou trois ans plus tard, avec mon pote parisien (nous sommes de la banlieue, je précise), nous sommes allés faire les vendanges près de chez lui, en Provence, donc.
Quelle ne fut pas ma surprise de voir comment nous étions assez souvent mis à l'écart.
Par exemple, un soir, il y avait une petite fête au village où nous séjournions. Mon pote et moi nous étions assis à une très longue table avec une multitude de chaises disponibles et sirotions un pastis en attendant que son ami et sa troupe de copains viennent nous rejoindre.
Ils sont tous arrivés, nous ont bien sûr serré la main, ont pris le temps de discuter deux ou trois minutes avec nous et plaisanter. Puis très décontractés nous ont laissé là pour aller s'assoir tous ensemble à une table de même taille que la nôtre, mais juste en face de nous.
Il restait bien trois quatre places assises de disponibles à leur table. Pourtant à aucun moment, ils ne nous ont adressé la parole, ou mieux encore, proposé de venir les rejoindre. C'est comme si, nous n'existions plus. J'ai halluciné !
Le seul avec qui l'on a vraiment sympathisé sur place, c'était un peintre (d'art) un peu excentrique avec qui l'on a partagé des moments mémorables de franche rigolade. Mais, je vous le donne en mille Émile ; c'était un Parisien. Ça ne s'invente pas.
Le seul endroit où les gens du cru se sont montrés vraiment très amicaux et accueillants dans la même situation ; un pote parisien qui nous ramenait régulièrement un, deux, ou même trois de ses amis du centre de la France (la France profonde, comme on dit ici), dans le Berry, que l'on intégrait à chaque fois dans notre groupe sans distinction.
Là, rien à dire. À chaque fois que je suis venu, moi et d'autres potes parisiens, leur rendre visite dans le Berry, les gens étaient super sympas. On mangeait très bien. C'était totalement la bonne franquette, ils nous invitaient à dormir chez eux, pas de problème, toujours prêts à ouvrir un canapé ou mettre un matelas par terre ; des gens simples et adorables, rien à dire.
Paix, les gens.
Thank you! Excellent video(s). We lived in Valencia for a bit. My first college courses were at COC! Transferred to UC Berkeley, then back to LA for my EdD. Now I am a retired American educator. We helped a new school open in Lviv, then spent 6 weeks in Ktakow; we're in Tallinn for a month before heading back to Oregon. My wife and I hope to visit France after the Olympics. We plan to sell our Portland condo, and then move to France. We will rent so we can travel throughout Europe. Living in France has several significant advantages: climate, healthcare, culture, and infrastructure. And the taxes are better in France than in any other European country! But will it be the city or the country???? Thanks again! Dean and Cindy.
Ou là là attention en France nous sommes le pays le plus taxer et où les impôts sont le plus important, et cz va certainement pas s'arranger vu l'endettement abyssal que nous laisse notre président Macron l'état français et en faillite tout se degrade à vu d'œil, mon si Beau pays que j'aime tant à été totalement et délibérément détruit. Pauvre France d'une française de La Ville de Nancy ven Lorraine 😊😊😊❤❤❤
@@carolinefavier-bz6tx Bonjour Nancy in Lorraine. I am sad to hear that France is suffering. Do you believe the new government will improve the country? I understand the taxes are high in France, but I also read that France provides many services. We hope that America survives our current political problem. Are you familiar with Perpignan and Ceret? It looks so peaceful. Merci. Dean & Cindy
@@DeanRamserMerci Dean d'avoir lu mon commentaire, je pense malheureusement que le nouveau gouvernement ne continu d'enfoncer la France dans la crise ils remettent déjà en cause bon nombre d'acquis sociaux que nos aïeux ont acquis avec bravoure, pour répondre à votre question je pense que Perpignan est une ville super avec un climat méditerranée doux en hiver un peu comme votre Californie 😊😊, cette ville offre de nombreux atouts Gare TVG aéroport, bus qui déserte toute la ville de tel façon qu'on est pas obliger de prendre sa voiture et cette proximité avec L'Espagne 😊❤❤ , je pense que la vie y est très agréable ayant une voisine qui procéde un appartement elle part chaque été 4 mois elle adore. Au plaisir de vous lire à bientôt Dean bonjour à votre famille😊😊
@@DeanRamser bonjour Dean j'ai malheureusement peur que le nouveau gouvernement d'aggrave encore la situation c'est les mêmes qu'avant, déjà ils vont moins bien rembourser les consultations chez les médecins et donc ont va payer plus de mutuelle privée, la France est un pays en faillite, je pense que vous USA la situation est meilleure. Pour répondre à votre question quant à la ville de Perpignan c'est une très belle ville au climat méditerranéen un peu comme votre Californie en un peu moins chaud, elle a toute les transports souhaiter bus , gare , aéroport le centre ville est dotée des transports en commun de cette façon pas besoin de prendre son automobile, la France reste quand même un pays où la douceur de vivre est toujours là, au plaisir de vous lire Bonlour à votre Famille Cordialement Caroline de Nancy
@@carolinefavier-bz6tx Bonjour Caroline. Thank you for your insight and knowledge. France seems to be fully engaged in correcting any problems from the Covid pandemic. America is almost back to its normal financial state, in some cases, America is healthier. However, our politics are looney stupid now. Sad. Tragic. The art of meaningful dialogue is lost. France, despite its challenges, looks to be a better fit for us. We are 67 and looking for meaningful conversations. Europe offers that. But first we must sell our condo in Portland. Merci!! Dean & Cindy
Toulouse is my beloved city, it's perfect in my opinion, just enought activities, close to mountains or seas and even the airport for traveling.
Would love to see more foreigners coming here to speak about it. (At least I would love to make friends with anyone coming here xD)
How can you forget the rugby?
I am interested in that region. Is there is good transportation as far as metro and buses over there. Is the rent affordable and are apartments spacious?
@@alluringbliss4165 yes, métro bus and tram, and a New metro Line IS under work, should be done fore 2028 i think.
Also many New bicycle roads are created every year.
Interesting video. I'd like to share my experience...
I'm French but moved to London in 1998, loved it even though rents were even more expensive than Paris. A studio right now would be at least €1200-1500 a month, and it was always expensive my whole time there, so I always had to share houses or flats, mostly it was amazing with the right people, sometimes it was dreadful with less than nice people - luckily my bad experiences were only for 2 years, I lived with some of the most genuinely friendly people most of the time and we had the best time.
In 2022, I had the opportunity to leave London to move to the seaside in East Sussex with one of my best friends ever (our flat has sea views and in 30 seconds I can be on the beach - I just have to cross the road!).
As you have experienced, rents are much cheaper here, a studio for €700 in London is simply impossible, you get 1 room in a shared house or flat for that. Here we pay €450 each for a 2-bedroom lovely flat. But yes, there is less to do. But apart from the winter months which can be boring, I much prefer living here than London, which is becoming unaffordable quickly.
People are generally nicer and friendlier (I've yet to meet a rude person in shops after 2 years, which was a regular occurence in London), going out to great restaurants (great foodie scene here) works out slightly cheaper (I expected it would be much cheaper!), but above all, I value a gentler pace of life and less stress. And if I miss London, I can go by train in only 90 minutes!
I don't regret leaving the big city one bit!
It’s been a while. Welcome back.
Yes it's been too long! Thanks :)
Very informative, I'm moving to the provinces next year and for me anything is cheaper than the UK, rent, food.. etc. But then I'm nearer retirement than the other end so I really want my own house with plenty of space for not a huge outlay and I know I wouldn't get that in Paris or major cities in France and definitely not in the UK! Merci beaucoup Jordan :)
Paris is big, also has a country side and you can get all types of apartments. Starting at less than 1000 euros /km²
So you can definitely have a huge house if you want to.
You speak French so well, with a very cute accent. 😊
Merci beaucoup ^^
You speak French well. It would be worth your taking some advanced lessons now, and you will make great strides in your powers of expression in French. (You said "note" for "score" and "expositions" for "exhibitions", he, he 😉)
Bon retour parmi nous, et bon retour à Paris !!!
Merci beaucoup ! La vie parisienne me plaît beaucoup à nouveau :)
@@JordanPatrick 😉
5:42 People coming and sitting on your terrasse😂 (terrace) sounded funny to me
Sometimes when speaking English but words that are traditionally French words sometimes brings out a little French twang ^^
Salut, avec ton expérience je comprends ton avis. En fait dans les grandes villes tu peux te faire plus facilement des copains, dans les petites villes où villages les gens ont plus d'amis que de copains, les rapports ne sont pas les mêmes avec les amis les relations sont plus profondes c'est pourquoi il est plus difficile d'intégrer un groupe d'amis ce n'est pas parce que tu es étranger c'est plus long qu'avec des copains mais ça fini par arriver c'est juste plus long. A Paris comme tu l'as dit les gens vivent dans des petits appartements et donc sortent souvent pour retrouver des copains, en province les gens vivent plus dans des maisons avec un extérieur où il est plus facile et plus agréable de recevoir copains et amis enfin là où je vis en camargue ça se passe comme ça....tu devrais y faire un tour il y a du bon vin, de bonnes choses à manger et tu apprendras de nouveaux mots de français...
Good info. From ur experience, what's the best way to find an affordable studio apt for one for a few months off season in Paris. Best!
Hey thanks! For short stays, I would recommend looking on Booking, or Air Bnb, because you won't be able to get a housing contract for less than a year!
In any big city the prices for rents are different as well as the food
What about dating differences Paris-province?
I always enjoyed visiting LA, there's so much to do in the area
Any cars with automatic transmission in Paris? Or is it hard to find one?
Not hard. I've never had anything else. Maybe just a bit more pricey.
Hi Jordan, welcome back! I pretty much had the same experience as you, except that I come from Ile de France and not California ;): I have been living in "la province" for 10 years now and the conclusion is exactly the same as yours. It is crazy how much I feel the same thing as you! If I had the choice, I would return to Ile de France now. I love walking, meeting people from all over the world, architecture, culture, the choice of activities and restaurants. And it can also feel creepy sometimes when you meet nobody in small cities or villages: I can relate! Have a nice day, Stéphanie.
Making friends in a new town in France is hard even for french. Like you said people already have established groups. It's a bit easier in universities towns because of the greater turn over 😊
I can see an article from Le Populaire in the background... Limoges nostalgia?!
Haha yeah it was a gift from a friend on mine in Limoges who framed my article and gave it to me :). It was cool to be recognized for the effort I was making at the beginning of my TH-cam journey :)
Merci beaucoup Jordan Patrick for your amazing videos. I am for 9 day's in France. Boulogne Sur Mer
Bravo Jordan Patrick.
N’oublies pas de te protéger les oreilles quand tu fais du fais du sport à côté du musée du Louvres à Paris .
Merci beaucoup pour ton sens de l’humour et surtout pour ton esprit de partage ! 👏👍😉😂
Just stumbled across your vlog. I’m Welsh and moved to live Brittany 5 years ago and I know my french has a Brittany accent. Do people in Paris ever tell you if you have a Limoges accent?
i think you're wrong on some things, happy hours exist in the south of France, a beer is usualy 3€ to 3€50 without happy hour prices. We have way cheaper restaurants too, like "routiers" or village brasseries, where you can have a full menu (entrée+plat+dessert+coffee+wine) around 15€ to 20€. Provence is a region in the south east, "proviiince" is France without Paris. But don't get me wrong, i loved your video. You're very cute too.
Well done!!
Bravo !!! Ton français est très bon car c'est un language difficile. Congratulations !
You said ... on y va c'est parte - what's the last word?
On y va c’est parti
C'est parti ! It's a common phrase to use similar to "let's get started" in English :)
Interesting observations! (No offense, but please check your spelling: Provence is spelled with an “e” not “i”). More importantly, I am really surprised you could even find an apartment for 700 euro in an arrondissement around Paris. And, I definitely needed to hear the comment about the restaurants. Never even thought could afford Paris, but planning to rent in Provence -around Toulon area for up to 1500 euros. Will be retired couple. Maybe outside Paris or Lyon should be considered also.
My dream is to move to France and play for the national team I will never give up on my dream I will fight for it I will die for it
That's an amazing goal and dream to have! Playing for a team like PSG or L'OM in the beginning might be more realistic, because you have to be French to play for the French national team, but if you play for another team in France and then become French, then your dream can happen! :)
I am a provincial living in the Paris area, and I am proud of being a provincial. 😂
Nothing wrong with bringing a provincial but Paris is Paris & you can’t find what you get in Paris anywhere in the provinces. Big town like Paris, Nice, Lyon, Montpellier have much more & for people who want a varied lifestyle then living in provinces is a no no.
Limoges is countryside?? It is a city with a population of 135,000. That's like Escondido, or Pasadena, or Orange CA. Are those cities 'countryside'?
Nice video just a little correction! To pass an exam is réussir not passer😊
Ahhhh merci ! Ca m'arrive des fois à traduire avec un mot anglais et qui ressemble à un mot français dont je connais comme ce ci ! haha
Passer un examen = sit an exam. Réussir un examen = pass an exam. Don't worry, I've been learning, speaking, writing, reading French for 64 years and I still make mistakes 😔. You have attained a good standard of the language, keep going!
OK, I also have experience in living abroad.
The single biggest mistake is to speak your own language - not for any political reasons, its simply for oneself. It means "we not making any progress, we're not learning anything, we're not going to get anywhere".
In short - we might as well be at home - what's the point if it all ??
In my case, it wasn't difficult - there simply aren't any English speakers.
Brilliant - that's how to get a head start.
In your case - maybe you should have gone en province right from the start.
What about somewhere a bit nearer, like in the île de France.?
Anyway, thumbs up.
Bravo Jordan pour toutes tes vidéos TH-cam. 😉On t’aime.
Conduire une voiture, un véhicule, dans toutes les provinces de France est bien plus facile que conduire à Paris ou en Ile de France. ^^
Merci beaucoup ! Oui j'ai préféré les routes ailleurs ça c'est sûr ! Mais encore mieux je trouve le système de transport un commun dans les plus grandes villes !
Love from morrocco
J'ai bien aimé mon voyage au maroc en 2019, dommage que j'ai pas fait une vidéo youtube pendant mon voyage !
I pay rent of $3136.00 a month for a 460 ft studio in Mill Valley, just a little north of San Francisco. Unbelievable!!
Yikes!! I know the bay area has one of the highest rents in the US! I hope you have a nice salary to match the high prices!
hhh.. de toute la province, tu as choisi la ville la moins dotée et la moins équipée de France.
Limoges n'est vraiment pas un bon exemple pour comparer avec la province. Je ne dis pas qu'il faille prendre les meilleurs exemples. Mais Limoges est clairement en dessous de la moyenne niveau équipement et infrastructure en province.
Sinon, la vidéo est cool. ça servira sûrement de référence aux étrangers.
Im french Canadian, Ive always been curious of what french people thought of us in France? I know the language is slightly different but do they see our french as an insult? 😂
As an Ontarian who knows French - I'd say they think the Quebec accent is pretty brutal😂
@@vmoses1979 😂
Good news Orly Airport line has opened 06-21-2024….
You shld vlog more often.
You cant compare both if you want busy city life go to city or if you want country life with acres of land and animals and freedom to do whatever you want go to country
LOL less than 1,000 for studio is incredibly cheap. You’ll never see that price in Los Angeles.
The category that you should have included is Dating.
Ohhh you're right, I didn't even think of that topic for this video, but if you haven't already seen my Dating video with differences between the US and France, here it is! th-cam.com/video/__uSwTICwKs/w-d-xo.html
Maybe I should do a video about dating differences between Limoges and Paris !
Can you include the job opportunities for foreigners between Paris and Provence ? 🙏
Just in case you don't know, Paris is NOT the only big city in France. Lyons, Marseille, Toulouse, Bordeaux Montpellier, Strasbourg, Lille have certainly not much to do with the countryside around Limoges where you apparently live. Thanks anyway.
Hello! Of course I know that and have been to all of the cities you mentioned ^^. If you watched the video you would know that I talk about a lot of those cities when I explain there are other big cities across France that some of these points don't relate to because they are more developed on an city scale such as city bikes and public transportation etc. Maybe watch the whole video next time before commenting, just a thought! Have a nice day!
Lille is horrible. Drug addicts and kebab shops.
You confuse 'Provence' with 'province', one is a region and the other an administrative area of France.
Bonjour, merci pour vos commentaires....je parlais de province, peut-être vous parlez de mon accent ? J'ai clairement voulu prononcer le mot « Province » et ça se voit dans tous les mots écrits au cours de cette vidéo, ainsi que dans la vignette comme vous pouvez le voir, alors excusez mon accent... voilà
What's this 2:45 of padding before addressing your title topic?! Mon Dieu.
actually your rent in Paris doesn't sound to bad, I thought it was more
I've had places in Paris that were half this size for only 60€/month less. On average small studios between 9-12 sq meters would cost around 600€ so I'd say this place is a fairly good deal for Paris. But this size of a place in other French cities would cost between 300-400€ so it's still a huge difference monthly rent wise ^^. I have multiple friends who have one bedroom apartments that are around 30-35 sq meters and they pay about 1,200€/month (basically twice what I'm paying) so I'm pretty happy with what I found!
@@JordanPatrick yes but living in the countryside is a pain and you lose so much money on petrol and the price of stuff generally being much more expensive or having to drive an hour to buy something... so I think it really weighs itself out... you don't need a car in Paris that's a massive saving. I have been living 1hr away from lyon and paying the same as if I were central lyon because the countryside outside cities can be equally as expensive - also they put rental ceilings on in lyon meaning the rent can't go above that price, but the same rules don't apply in other area like posh villages like here where the rent prices have gone through the roof... so it really depends where you go in france and which countryside... we used to live in the suburbs of Paris and paid around 900 per month for a tiny 2 bed - 50sqm apartment, it was 25 mins walk to the train and 45 mins on train to central Paris... very far out and very expensive. that's why I am surprised at how much you are paying. it sounds ok to me.
C'est surprenant que même après neuf ans en France vous gardez votre charmant accent américain.
Ahah merci c'est pas fait en exprès et je veux que ça part mais je pense que je vais en avoir pour toujours lol
Thanks for the video.
One recurring issue throughout your video (which makes it hard to follow) is that you pronounce "province" as "Provence."
Provence is la province, but not all province is in Provence, least of all Limoges.
Secondly, Limoges is not really the countryside, but a smaller "provincial" town.
Nonetheless, you make some good points.
Did you ever stop to think that one reason the provinciaux may not have too quick to adopt you is on account of you having "Fluctuat nec mergitur" tatooed on your arm?
Pretty well everyone in France knows that that is Paris' motto, and that would potentially brand you as a Parigot.
Parisians are not always well-liked by the more narrow-minded provinciaux.
I wish we had Bouillons in Avignon !!
I thought it is spelled Provence???
Bonjour,
La Provence est la région SE de la France. La province est l opposé de Paris.
@@chaignotnathaliemuc2025 oh, my ignorance, thanks for clearing that up for me. 💜
De rien;)( you welcome)
I didn’t like Toulouse. Felt a bit shady. Albi is beautiful.
Congrats! You are officially and definitely Parisian for calling anything and everything that revolves around Paris, Province! Very city dwellish and ethnocentric! How can you encompass just about anything in one area? I love how all these (anglophile) city dwellers travel the world and post their humble opinion about their surroundings. Oh, is it called "sharing one's experience" is it?
@nicolaslegrand9414: this guy is making a lot of sense. I have lived in several places in various regions, it’s just not the same. Nothing is as cheap a you think it’s going to be. Only realestate with regards to buying is much cheaper because there is not much competition & it’s not the same in sleepy hollow. The young are leaving in droves as there is nothing much when the places closes down at midday Sunday & closed on Mondays in a lot of towns & it’s dead boring. Even people over 70 get bored. Country folk are very insular & close minded & are afraid of change & scared of losing their culture which is hilarious. The harder they try the quicker their culture will die as the young don’t stay in these small towns with nothing to do. It’s the expats who want quite lives they make these countryside towns, otherwise without the expats the countryside would have died a long time. Nice & Lyon are the other places worth living in & a couple of others but the countryside is a no no if you want convenience & fun & entertainment.
Un parisien qui note Paris face à la province… On a coupé des têtes pour moins que ca.
In practice, Paris is a separate country, with different culture, economy and social rules. 😂
Just like every remote island in the Atlantic of Pacific ocean that is still part of the French territory as its own cultural and economical traits.😁
It is spelled Provence.
Hello, Provence is a region in the south, Province is a term which refers to the rest of France outside Paris (Île-de-France)... I also didn't know the difference early in my French life ^^, but a friend corrected me once a few years ago, so now I know and so do you!
Too bad it was in Limoges you went to instead of a younger, more cultured place like Toulouse. It is the city after Paris that has the most students & thé apéro & night life is well & alive down here..especially since the weather allows much more open terraces. I can see why you prefer Paris to Limoges..even the French would prefer Paris to Limoges & that’s saying a lot 😂
First thing to know : no one outside Paris ever uses the word Province.
True and of course not! Why would they! ^^ Just like Parisians don't call each other Parisians (unless you're foreign or from province and want to pick on someone who was born and raised here ^^)
en province on appelle ça les "routiers", sors de ton trou mec!
I'm not dissing on Limoges, but you cannot compare a metropolis like Paris with over 10M people with a small city like Limoges with barely 200k inhabitants. I think you would have been better off living in a bigger city like Toulouse, Bordeaux or Nantes. They are still small compared to Paris but have more of the offers you like in Paris. Also, you limited your potential hook ups by living there, unless you intended on being the next gay candidate on L'amour est dans le pré. 🤣
True...of course there are gonna be differences between a big city and a smaller city, but I wanted to share a foreigners perspective who's lived in both. Most étrangers have only lived in Paris and have no idea about how life is outside Paris ...donc me voilà je racconte tout ! ^^
We don’t say very cheap in Europe . In the correct manner it’s inexpensive…
I can see what you mean in France for sure, "pas cher" is mostly used to describe something as inexpensive. However I'm not sure if the logic is similar to all countries throughout Europe, because in Spain they use "barato" which mean cheap
@@JordanPatrick very cheap is often a downgrade in European culture not sure how can be called French food very cheap..
American English isn’t very selective.. lot of American label things “very cheap”.
I recently learned that thousands of Jewish French citizens have been fleeing France and seeking asylum in Israel due to increased anti-Semitism from the large Muslim population in France. The media seems to be hesitant to report on this, perhaps because it might cause it to escalate. Have you heard anything about this? Thanks!
oh wow, no I haven't heard about that...that's pretty alarming if it's the case. I generally believe that France is a welcoming and safe country, so it's really sad if groups of people don't feel safe and protected here.
Hilarious Byron Kerby. It's like the Americans in the south who believe whatever Trump says.
From the Jews I've met (I live in a Parisian suburb), the answer to your question is 'Yes'. I have worked with Muslims in the US and France and the hate coming from this group is very real. They are angry for the simply fact that they feel their life and values are being restricted by you (the non-Muslim) and especially by Jews.
Un parisien de ses morts !
You were born in the USA, that makes you an American-Frenchman, not the other way around.
As an adopted citizen of this beautiful country, I'm more proud to be French because I wasn't born a French man, therefore I consider myself French-American. You might consider it differently and that's ok
@@JordanPatrick I understand, but the designation does not depend on one's feelings. I was born in the US and am a naturalized Dutch citizen. I feel more Dutch than American yet I am properly referred to as American-Dutch.
So many clichés...
Please share more ^^ I'd love to hear it!
Paris is in Africa, not in France. I know it's counter-intuitive to find civilization in the countryside.
I was in Paris loong ago...i was Disgust with that Arabic poverty ..i would never live there ..the same is with London...Smaller cities in France or UK are much better..i am from Croatia..but wish I can live in the middle of France...Brexit stope me to stay in UK..and huge criminal i never experiance before even in NYC and NJ
I'd agree that crime rates tend to be higher in and around bigger cities for sure. Central smaller towns are much cozier with nicer people you can trust!
He is painfully long-winded.
same thing I said! Couldn't stomach more than 10 minutes of this.
It's spelled Provence.
There's a difference between Provence and Province. Look it up