2017 Kia Cadenza K7 Review and Road Test - First Drive In 4K UHD!
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- The 2017 Cadenza is more than a shot across the bow of the Lexus ES and Toyota Avalon. If shoppers are willing to give Kia a second look, the Cadenza is a direct torpedo hit to one of Lexus' most popular sedans.
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I have the 2015 kia cadenza and it is one of the best driving, best built, dependable cars I have ever driven. It's not a sports car but it rides as smooth as silk. It has all the tech and luxury features that you will need at a much better price than the competition. Test drive and you will love it. Also the new model puts icing on the cake with that heads up display. All I can say is WOW
Oh my gosh, that's a beautiful side profile surfacing. The reflections on the new Kia/Hyundai are becoming my favorite design flow. Well done, Kia/Hyundai designers, well done.
Yes, glad someone else noticed it! This is something that the Koreans generally do well. Door panels that appear simple but have really complex surfacing.
YES! That is exactly what I was thinking. There is finally a car that is luxurious as f**k that I can afford.
Alex, I have said it before and will say it again, your review of this vehicle and any vehicle you show are the very best in the industry. You are so very knowledgeable and thorough, and the reviews are interesting. I really appreciate your work. Thank you so much...Best Regards, Jeff McCargar
Terrific review. Very helpful that you had two versions of this car available to display.
Yes!! Just saw this all-new Cadenza yesterday (which I initially did not recognize) and immediately thought, "Wondering when Alex will finally get to review this..." Wonder no more, because it is here. Thank you very much!
Same.. I guess hes the first to upload a review for the cadenza
That dragonfly was impressed.
That's a bold look up front...I like it.
I'm so proud of you Kia, You've grown up. 😳😳
Kia's first generation Candenza was quite impressive. I mean it wasn't without its shortcomings but for Kia's first crack at this car segment it was undeniably undeniable, if I said that right lol. It left a great future impression all while expressing very little compromise. In fact the last generation Candenza was so good for Kia's first crack at this segment that it left an high anticipation for this generation Candenza and Kia did not disappoint. Hell of a job Kia kudos, well done!!
Well made car. Kia/Hyundai are going strong and they don't show any sign of stopping.
This was the 1st video I watched from your channel and I really like the review, very thorough! Also appreciated the transparency that Kia provided airfare and meals! I am a new subscriber!
Alex, you have the most comprehensive and useful reviews on youtube.
Great and in-depth review. Can’t believe these 17 cadenzas are in the 22-25k price range.
My everyday sedan! Amazing review Alex.
My grandfather bought a 2018 Cadenza Limited last year. We compared it to Toyota Avalon, Lexus ES, and even the Chevy Impala. The Cadenza was by far the best out of all of them. One year later, he loves it. It has so much luxury and the nappa leather is wonderful. You cant understimate Kia nowadays thats for sure.
It's hard to understand for many people that KIA can be luxury, it's rare to see Cadenza on the road and I haven't even seen K900 in person.
All Lexus is is a dressed up Toyota.
your reviews are phenomenal, please never stop :-)
by far your reviews are the best in every way! informative and well organized so i can compare different cars. thank you
Thanks Alex !!! Your review are simply the best !!!
At $47k, I would buy Genesis G80 over Kia Cadenza.
But Cadenza starts at about $8000 lower than G80.
$32k (starting price) is Camry V6 territory.
At $32k (or lower with some rebates), it is very good bang for your buck.
Your reviews are awesome
Really impressive review 👍🏻
Nice review!
So I recently had a quandary ... deciding which car to buy. My final three were Audi A8, Genesis G90, and Kia K900. I don’t do payments. I’m a cash buyer being 64 years old. VALUE & COMFORT are driving forces for me. I eliminated the A8 because after comparing it to the Genesis G90, I didn’t want to waste the difference in cost. (That difference will be spent on 3 week holiday to Australia/New Zealand). Now it’s between G90 and K900. Something about the K900 just tugged at me and that’s what’s in my garage. I laugh at commenters that say luxury buyers won’t consider Genesis or Kia. Only label snobs or fools would throw money away ... or wannabe buyers. Great job Alex!
On our third Optima now(2011 LX, 2012 EX Premium, and our latest buy and my favorite!! 2017 SXL) and love the attention to detail and comfort in each one! Lots of similarity in some components between the Optima and Cadenza inside and that Nappa leather is really luxurious...Turbo 2.0 moves out with real aggression! Wish we needed the slightly larger Cadenza as the new design looks great! Thanks for the review Alex.
I Love your videos Alex , because you are so thorough ..
Hi Alex. Great Job Bud as usual. It sounds like you got pretty close to the DC Metro...
I like this vehicle as well and think this redesign was better executed than the Optima for sure.
Man, I wish I had the money to sink into a new car right now - this Kia is exactly what I want. We as a family bought into the Kia brand in its early days as a means of simple, affordable and fairly reliable transportation, and as our tastes have matured and Kia/Hyundai has gone further and further upmarket, they have been excellent vehicles for us. Sure we've had our share of problems with the older vehicles, but never anything too serious, and as it is right now, I'd rather own a Kia/Hyundai/Genesis than a Toyota/Scion/Lexus, or really any of the Japanese and American competition.
My 2010 Sonata has 106,000 miles with NO problems. My buddies Fords,Jeeps and BMW are in the shop all the time!
Don, it sounds like your buddies aren't that well versed in cars then, because I daily an older A6 and run a Cooper S as a summer car - neither have seen the inside of a dealer's garage or anything (unless you count inspection). I do all the maintenance myself, and if it's something beyond my capabilities, both my father and grandfather have extensive knowledge of cars, so it's never a problem.
Both the Audi and Mini have been reliable, and maintenance has been very straightforward.
As for Jeeps, they can be very hit or miss, which is generally the case with any MOPAR vehicle. But as long as you religiously keep up to date on maintenance them, then there isn't much to worry about.
Coming from a '93 M5, Bimmers have degraded in quality, just as Mercs have seriously gone downhill as well, but typically what I see in luxury brands is that the owners themselves haven't the slightest clue about car maintenance, which is why you see long lists of complaints and problems when owners neglect their vehicles.
American vehicles aren't all that bad these days, but anything MOPAR is a bit on the questionable side, and that's only because of poor engineering and quality from the get-go.
I'll say this, my parents actually bought into Kia/Hyundai early on for inexpensive commuter vehicles. The last Kia they owned was a 2005 Kia Sportage EX V6 with 4WD (not the later AWD). Exactly 10 years later in 2015 they traded it for a (then) new Honda HR-V. While the HR-V is a very mediocre vehicle, the Kia wasn't anything special either. They got rid of it just shy of 90,000 miles and it was just a sketchy vehicle from abysmal build quality, to questionable engineering and design decisions, to flaky electronics, and mediocre performance. But it was reliable.
All brands have a good and bad side, there are some vehicles and brands that are known for less-than-ideal reliability, but any modern vehicle should make it 100,000 without a sweat.
Hello Alex! I love your review and have been a long time follower of your channel!. I've noticed that you've added the 0-60 Time and braking distance to your score box. I am wondering if you could add the Cabin Noise result into your box score as well, since sometimes it is very difficult to hear the exact number, especially when you are driving and speaking at the same time.
Weirdly I would choose the new 2017 LaCrosse which I never thought I would say. Just a better interior in the Buick
I agree with you. I'm in the hunt for a LaCrosse right now (Aug/Sep 2020). But if anything happens to my LaCrosse, it will be backfilled by a 2017 or younger Kia Cadenza for sure. (Due to the LaCrosse not being built anymore)
Great video Alex. Can't wait until you get to test it on your home turf. Kia has really come to the top of the automotive market in many areas. Their Japanese rivals, Toyota (Lexus), Honda (Acura) et al on the other hand seem to have stagnated or gone in reverse with time.
The Koreans build the best televisions. Will they build the best cars as well? It seems to be headed in that direction.
Alex, your reviews are the best on you tube! I have a 2015 Cadenza and kept your review on the 2014. That model went from 0 to 60 in 6.05 seconds and this new 2017 in 6.5. Does the fact that this was not done on your normal test route in California account for the difference? Thanks
Hey Alex, great review! I just wanted to say, I'm in Dubai currently, and noticed the Cadenza here has a control panel on the backseat armrest. Was wondering if this is due to different regional specs or is that also available in your side of the world?
Good review of this car. It really looks great and a lot more attractive than some other cars in its class. Are all trim levels equipped with SiriusXM Satellite Radio?
Alex great review!! do you know if current 2016 Genesis can be updated with carplay and android auto? I am trying to decide between cadenza the g80. also which would be more reliable, g80 or cadenza? thanks.
Alex I know it's been two years since you published this review and I've seen it a few times since I own a technology trim of the car but I've just noticed something. @21:33 in the credits you misplaced the decibel point on the cabin noise. It says 768.5db! Yeah that's a little loud! LOL
Very nice looking car.
@Alex, how would you compare the rear leg room between the following: Impala, Cadenza and Avalon? I am looking for a lease upgrade with these 3 in my mind.
It looks good ! Like a Rolls - Buick - Masarati - Renault baby
This thing looks tremendous
Alex, do you know why the front Z-shaped DRL is now yellow instead of white like it used to be/is in other markets?
Hi Alex any changes on 2017 Toyota Rav 4 hybrid i.e. new high strength steel sheet metal ,real leather sits, grill , power trains , price difference , etc. thanks keep up the good job .Cheers
Hi Alex, any schedule on the 2017 forester?
I hope you review the Niro.
very 2014-2015 A4 for obvious reasons (Audi designer left to Kia) but that SXL model trim is nice. Im seriously going to take a look at it when it comes to the US.
if only AWD is available.
Definitely one of the more... interesting looking mid sized sedans
Are you filming this around Middleburg, VA?
very good car
Alex think fast!!! Cadenza, Genesis or the Maxima? and why!
In your video you said this isn't the plushest ride in this category. May ask what you think is?
I kinda had my heart set on a K900. This review was excellent, maybe this car might be something else to consider. I like QUITE AND POWER :) Alex, what do you speculate will happen to the K900?
K900 is RWD and a step above this one. Too bad its sales have been so poor in the US. I hope Kia has the staying power to wait it out until people understand it can be a legitimate luxury badge.
Interior looks much better than BMW 3 series, almost on par with 5 series.
Glad to see the Michelin tires. both of my Optimas (2011 and 2015) had the shitty Nexen performance tires that never lasted 20k miles I upgraded to a BF Goodrich Comp 2 G I think they're called and man they are super quiet and grip even in rain like i'm on dry pavement. I highly recommend them. Best tire for the price. Even Walmart and Sams Club sells them for about $120 each.
are the running lights amber? I've seen pics and other videos where they are in led illumination..... can you clear this up? thanks
Lawrence Williams that's what I was wondering!
Hey Alex, how would you compare this to the Hyundai Genesis or the Genesis G80 that's about to come out shortly? Would you put these cars in the same category as this Cadenza?
The Cadenza is somewhere between the Hyundai Azera and the G80 in some ways. Although the Cadenza is mechanically related to the Azera, Kia positions it higher because they don't have a 1=1 competitor for the G80. The Kia K900 is probably the more rational G80 competitor although it is positioned between the G80 and G90 overall.
very good looking car 💪
Greetings from Germany ^^
Yeah, great looking car and as always a fantastically thorough review. Too bad the Cadenza isn't sold in Europe.
+Hans Olo yes sadly :( i really like a lot of these 'american' sedans, because the look way better than (besides bmw, audi and mb)
...So,what would you choose on a long cross country trip...The Cadenza,or the Honda Accord,or the Toyota Camry...???...V6's...
@Alex, Great to hear the fuel economy is good! I have the 2014 Cadenza and am considering (admittedly quite different vehicles) the Kia Optima Hydrid 2017 and the new Cadenza..I wish they would make a hydrid Cadenza too. Any rumors on that, Alex? I guess unlikely..
There is a glimmer of hope. The Cadenza is sold as the K7 in Korea and there is a K7 hybrid there as well. No comment on that coming here but we know it is possible and the hard work of adapting it to the K7 body has already been done.
Thanks. True.. and now that Hyundai seems to have withdrawn from full size sedans, perhaps there is indeed hope. When do you think you will get your hands on a 2017 Optima Hybrid?
Omg... Id be happy to upgrade my 2014 Cadenza for the 2017... I hope they've improved all of the rattling issues
Jaymie Mason Was your sunroof rattling?
Sunroof... theres a rattle coming from the rear subwoofer area near the sunshade... of course the dealership couldnt replicate the problem.. the faux wood under the radio rattles and squeaks when its cold.. its a beautiful car.. but it sould definitely use some refinement. What burned me with Kia is the service experience at the dealership... and since its the only one in a 25 mile radius, once i turn this lease in im turning my attention elsewhere.
Noone buys this car everyone just goes for the Optima in a Kia dealership same thing goes for the Azera. I see this car very very rarely here in NY while the Genesis is seen way more often.
Wish we could get the Kia cee'd
This is better than Lexus! Wow what times we live in.
@Alex
Very nice update over the 2016 model. It actually comes across more luxurious than the luxury-branded ES350, Lincoln MKZ, and especially the Acura TLX/RLX, particularly interior-wise on all 3. And it is definitely a much more premium ride than what the Nissan Maxima is trying to do, even that models Platinum trim. I did see the new Buick LaCrosse and it is a noteworthy competitor however.
Just a few observations: Does the passenger seat have the same range of motion as the driver seat? Did Kia fix the awful steering that the last gen had? I saw that you mentioned the Chrysler 300 being slower. It is rated at 6.0-6.2secs from various journals and at 19/31, it is likely a wash in f/e. It also has available AWD and on the 300C Platinum trim, the interior has things like real-wood and leather wrapped dash, etc, for the same money. It just comes down to a matter of tastes and priorities.
But yes, with a straight face, Kia can absolutely call this car 'near-lux'. If you hadn't said anything, I would've assumed the wood to be real ash, so kudos to Kia for getting right. And I saw that Kia revised the suspension with properly premium Michelin tires...awesome! They came to play...
This Cadenza isn't not more "luxurious" than the Lexus ES, especially when it comes to the interior. Check both of them out in person, it might change your mind.
+matt molloy I've been in both vehicles and the Kia is the better put together car and general materials quality is higher than the ES. The Cadenza's cabin is quieter, contains more premium materials, uses a higher grade of leather, more luxurious headliners, and offers a suite of gadgets not available in the ES like a heads up display, CarPlay integration, LED headlamps and a significantly better radar cruise control system.
+Alex on Autos You're crazy if you think the Cadenza is better put together than the ES 350. This vehicle looks like a regular car masquerading as a luxury car for people that don't know any better. I'm really starting to question your taste in vehicles; I favor your videos for the accurate raw data, not the opinions that accompany them.
+matt molloy since the car has yet to be publicly sold I would point out that you have yet to sit in and experience the new car. As to the Lexus, as I've pointed out before, the Toyota Avalon arguably has a more premium feeling interior than the base ES, an opinion that I am not alone in among vehicle reviewers. I would suggest taking a good long look at an ES and this new 2017 mode side by side without prejudice as I just did. The result will be illuminating.
+Alex on Autos You know the old adage about assumptions, don't you? Perhaps you should have asked if I've experienced this car for myself, instead of baselessly speculating in a pompous manner that I have not. I am familiar with all of the cars you've mentioned first hand, and your opinions corresponding with other clueless reviewers means absolutely nothing to me. Let's cut the nonsense, this car is NOT as smooth of a drive as the ES. The styling of the interior in the Cadenza resembles that of a family sedan & not a luxury sedan, and the overall styling of the vehicle is uninspired. You have a severe misunderstanding of the luxury car market and its customers.
Hey Alex...are you still doing reviews for ttac?
+ThorMaxx no, this was taking too much time and TTAC was looking to go in a different direction so we parted ways.
Good. It was really confusing to see you in two different places.
can KIA just change their damn name to get the stigma of buying a kia from purchasers minds?
I helped create a marketing plan for doing just that. I think they'll have to wait and see how well Genesis Motors does with their rebrand
They could change the English spelling to the actual Korean pronunciation, Ghia.
@5:38 I've always wondered why full-size sedans don't typically have fold-down seats. I believe the Impala and the Azera have them, but I think that might be it [edit: looks like the LaCrosse and 300 have them, too]. Seems silly to me to be losing functionality when moving up - think of all the room you could have! It's hard to believe structural integrity or NVH would suffer much with modern designs. Maybe sound dampening is the issue...or, is there some other aspect of "security" for a near-luxury car at play here (e.g. "Don't want the valet stealing my golf clubs")?
I recently bought an Avalon as I am still not sure how other cars in the competitions would fare in terms of durability...
I would be all in on this vehicle if it had AWD, everything about the vehicle is a go
What a luxurious car!! I prefer this over the Mercedes C-class or BMW 3 series.
How would this compare to the Nissan Maxima??
It's a full size sedan, teh Cadenza and Maxima compete with each other.
Top Kia k7
I like that the moonroof has a thick sunshade to block out the sun. Door design looks dated already.
Very nice front end, looks the part. The rear, though, looks a bit downmarket.
This car is very attractive compare to the Buick Lacrosse but I'm concern about long term reliability. Will do my research.
@Alex: The new blind spot detection system "guides" you back to lane, I hear, by breaking the outboard wheels. Can you turn that off, or just ignore and change lanes anyway? Reason I ask is that I find the blind spot detection most useful in rush our city commute on multi-lane roads. And sometimes there simply isn't enough space and the blind spot will beep. Or when you are turning at an intersection where there are two or more lanes turning the same direction - will the blind spot system keep stearing you to a wrong lane, as it detects a car on a car on the inside lane?
It can be turned off
Phew. :) I realize though I may not have been clear - can you turn of just the steering-assist off, but keep the blind spot detection otherwise on?
+Nikko Nakuttaja that I'm not sure
Ok, thanks. Hopefully one can. Otherwise it would render the blind spot detection useless in many urban/city driving settings. :(
My understanding is that the car won't be steering you to a wrong lane but to the one you are driving on to avoid collision.
dammm Korean and German are doing well together
Oh hello, Mr. Dragonfly.
Trunk comfort is important. I want my victims to be comfortable when riding in the trunk.
dat grille tho, it looks like buick
only cadenza don't have are reverse led and plate lights led...full options?? how? explained...
looking a lot like the fusion
Did I miss something?, why does the front dash(center) look like Hyundai, especially the stereo ?
Should've googled it first lol, Hyundai is minority owner of Kia (33%)
I went to try all this cars ,avalons cadenzas acuras etc etc ,months of choosing and what ,I went with lexus ,I'm sorry but lexus is lexus I don't even ear the wind, its like I'm seating in my sofa and watch a movie,is so comfortable and silent them I can fall asleep very easy ,only when I open the window I realize I'm in a car ,german cars don't come to my house anymore ,they don't let me save any money ,worst then a casino
This car has a lot going for, that I have to say. However, the cheap center stack and the slightly underwhelming passenger dash is a let down to me (I'd welcome some sculpturing). Those two things need improvement and hopefully this car has - more or less - exclusive looking exterior coloring as well. But I understand KIA may want to keep this car well under 50k and perhaps even under 48k at all costs.
Like the new layout of your reviews making all other car reviews on TH-cam looks boring and outdated.
love their new designs but my god they need to make the lower, its looks lifted off the ground, and the wheel gap is huge
Its meant to be a luxury car, not a sports sedan.
beautiful car i'll take it over the new 3 series
top car.....kia rulez !!!!!
PS. My gas mileage on my 2015 really sucks. 16 around town and 23 on the highway. I do live in Florida, where it is hot and humid 8 months a year.
Beautiful looking car. Kia has certainly come a long way from their Sephia days....
ThorMaxx .
And I just got a Optima SX 4 months ago... ugh... >.<
Maybe one day! lol
Optima is a great car too :D
Sure is. Thanks!
I would love to see HMG give Kia a luxury off-shoot brand similar to Genesis, but with the cooler more futuristic styling Kia is known for. I know that would step on the toes of Genesis, but then why did they make the K900?
Because the K900 was made well before the Genesis brand and was the sister vehicle of the original Hyundai Genesis. To be perfectly honest, the K900 isn't a great car. The Hyundai Genesis pulled it (being a mid-grade luxury vehicle) off better; the K900 should've been tuned more towards the sporty side in my honest opinion - but it wasn't.
Lot of those parts looks to have come from the genesis / G80
definitely better than avalon, and better than RL.
Why do they make these cars so damn big? it's bigger than my wife's TLX and that's a pain in the a$$ to park in NYC. I know I know get a civic or forte but why is it if I want great features I can't have in a smaller car?
MrSweeper Are you kidding me? Luxury brands have had small cars for a long long time now, look at those. I swear they get dumber each day.
Chris Sorreda How about talking like a human being quit trying to start up a troll thread. Just speaking my mind on car ownership on this car. This isn't the only car I have by the way. Also the smaller cars don't have the same amenities as the bigger cars which I was trying to explain. Should you reply, try to chill out, nobody trying to be hostile here.
Kia isnt playin... thanks to mothership Hyundai. However isnt the Cadenza a re-baked Hyundai Azera? DId not hear him mention that at all.
Has he lost his mind? The k900 got 67db on his k900 video. Yet he says the cadenza is quieter at 68.5db... WTF?
You are delusional to think a Lexus buyer is going to consider a Kia as on the same level.
Their loss. Forget the badge, the machine competes with what it competes with.
Lexus sales are down nearly 7% despite a flurry of new and revised product. Those buyers are going somewhere!
+Mozzie Between reliability, quality and styling of luxury appointments, the Lexus ES 350 doesn't need a badge to win people over compared to this Cadenza.
+HellKitty 101 Many of them still have their Lexus that they bought in the years prior, and don't need to replace the car just yet due to its reliability.
matt molloy Lexus reliability - you mean like the RC-F with constant axle issues and noises that customers have been complaining about? The reliability thing is old hat. It's from the 90s. Lexus is no more reliable than many other brands nowadays. Remember, this isn't 1999. We aren't talking about a Kia Sephia.