Why We Actually LIKED The 2017 Kia Cadenza!
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Damn Kia! Stepping up your game now, I would buy one
Tyler M For now, better buying preowned or used. the depreciation are really huge. you would save alot. but if you have the money, kia and hyundai are one of the best bang for buck cars out there.
Gordo Villa Kia is one of the best car these days! But has no market for value in N America. I bought my 2016 Kia Optima fully loaded for 33k which is a great price, after only 4k miles, the value is 19k which is just crazy!
Underwood95 Yup, but that is a good thing for smart buyers. KIA and Hyundai are becoming an amazing brand. Till then, buy use. once people catch on then only would it be ok to buy new.
how are u going to buy used cars if everyone stops buying them new?
mujjuman Because there will always be dumb people, only smart buyers will catch on. Basic economics one o one, as supply decreases, demand (or price) will increase. soon if enough people become smart and buy use, depreciation wont be an issue, and buying new is less of a bad decision to "save money"
i would never expect kia to make such a car! im amazed!
I was just going to say when I reviewed the Optima last month it basically had everything this car had, drove better- and looked almost as nice inside.
I got a chance to drive a Kia Optima and was really impressed by how it drove, there was decent power but the thing I noticed most was in the shifting, buttery smooth.
ericj305 It was the top level trim Optima
It's the OnePlus 3 of cars
They should design a new logo. It doesn't flow with the car at all
chargersfan1111 yup
There is the aftermarket K emblem that looks way better; still kinda looks like a weird Lexus L though
***** The whole time I kept staring at the logo
chargersfan1111 Yeah they should get a fancy logo, rather than just saying Kia.
That logo doesn't flow with anything. It's freaking hideous. I would definitely get the "K" logo and replace them all.
The beauty shots help ALOT. But Kia looks to have really stepped their game up!
But would people pay 60k for a KIA even if it is better spec than everything else in the price range?
thedownshiftchannel I definitely wouldn't. I can see these things being depreciation monsters as well.
chris f it's a shame but unless a brand holds some sort of prestige the depreciation is always n issue! For the secondhand market someone could get a potentially great car for cheap
chris f true but all the competitors also drop in value like a brick falling from the Empire State building
It is a depreciation monster. I have a 2014 Cadenza. Base model also comes well equipped. bought it used for 22 grand with 17k miles on it. In my opinion, it's well worth the 45 grand, but because it depreciates so quick it just make sense to buy it used/ pre-owned and get an even better value. It's an amazing car and so comfortable, definitely not a sports sedan lmao
I did cross shop some 3-series but the combo of the rear legroom, cheaper insurance, and lower price pushed me to the Kia. The 5 series was more of competitor too
The 2017 Cadenza actually looks REALLY good!
Mad Pistol kinda Mercedes look
Kia has done some wonderful job👏👏👏...Love the look of the steering wheel and those tale lights
Best thing about these cars ....they are soooo reliable !!
pol1250 In what dimension?
lol if you think anything is ever going to break on that basic ass v6
100% agree!!! I've had one for my son for 8 years, only 1 minor issue with the power steering and that was it. Better than my BMW and Audi which have been in the shop multiple times and costly.
*Gotta admit it looks pretty good. PS: You guys are the reason I started my channel!!!!*
Yea exterior is nice
same here
Yeah, that grille does look sleek.
hmmm... you said the same thing on Rob Faretti's video earlier... Which one is it?!?!?
There are a handful of channels that I've been following on my personal channel that have collectively inspired the creation of this channel! :)
To all that hate it because it's a KIA: If prestige is more important to you than the car itself then you're no car guy. (No that's not an insult if you're not a car guy of my definition)
Seb A. Well considering a 2 years old mercedes ml 350 blue-tech equipped equally is 48 000$, i would choose the benz over it
Seb A. Oh yeah, and the ml has awd
+Charles-David Bérubé Yeah, that maybe my pick as well...but I think the kia would be the smarter choice..I mean you can really make your pocket empty since as we all know that maintainence cost of German cars are insane
Mahin Ahmed yeah but a well maintained german car should no cost over 1000$ of maintenance per year. So lets say you keep it 4 years, its a 52 000$. Still less than the 60 000$ price tag of the kia. And considering the ml is only 2-3 years old, you still have a warranty so no extra payments for the first 2 years or so.
So with the warranty, it would be around 50 000 and 51 000$
Mahin Ahmed i'm not saying the kia isn't good. But for less, you get the same or more and you have the prestige badge. It's a win win in my opinion.
Kia steals shit from every car company
i can confidently say that every car company "steals shit" one way or another.
Not TESLA :)
Smart Tech their features and designs are innovative, however even teslas use other car company's parts and ideas
Oscar De Lira Fair enough lol. I did read they built the car from the ground up but design is complicated :)
You have problems with that? Does it hurt your pride? Then son, don't buy.
does anyone else agree that the front end looks a bit like a Maserati
It's has little bit of everything from Europe lol
haha hadn't watched the whole video yet and they said the same thing
Erik Pedersen and i think that the back end looks a bit 7 series
Erik Pedersen Yeah it does, he mentioned it in the video top
*too
That is the best damn looking Kia yet...
Kia is kind of killing it in terms of design, and features for the money
It's literally a BWM/Audi there is nothing special done here.
RedVelocistar it really isn't though lol you know nothing about cars 😂😂😂
It's a BMW/Audi feature wise but it will drive like shit compared to a BMW or Audi.
That Guy From Kansas ya this is done for daily driver who doesn't care for driving , they just want features at less price. I would buy this for 45k , just for features kinda good daily driver
of course, it can't compete with Audi. Also front wheel drive is a big minus...
KIA needs to do what Hyundai did with the Genesis on their high end autos. Just cant see myself buying a luxury car with KIA badge on the hood.
Augie Romero just over a badge seriously?
Jesse Keller If you told your co workers "I drive a BMW" than "I drive a Kia" the BMW badge shows that you own a more prestigious car. And, if you're a buisness man or entrepreneur, it would give you a better image of pulling up in an S-Class than pulling up in a Kia K900.
I could care less
Augie Romero wait Hyundai changed the badge on the genesis well that's F'd up
Jesse Keller says the guy with a Lamborghini badge as profile picture.
@1:46 - When you want to make out, but you know you got to finish the video
Your reviews are really good! The 2 of you makes it dynamic. Good work.
Wow.. KIA is kicking ass with this model :O
I agree, great looking Cadenza! nice review, guys!
Why am I watching a video on a mom car instead of writing my essay
same
because we are petrolheads? :D
Antwon Griezmann because America
Because less brain.
dude same wtf
Thanks for being honest and not over glorifying it!!
Do the side mirrors fold in when you lock it? I find that feature very luxurious.
I've got the sister car, a Hyundai Azera. You guys nailed the essence of the car. The more you drive and live with the car the more you realize just how premium feeling car it is (sound isolation, transmission smoothness, stereo sound quality, touch of materials, ride quality, features for money, etc.). They really are the industry's best kept secret. Anyone who wants a Lexus should shop Azera/Cadenza first and save $15k easy. No brainer!
I bet the Kia Cadenza will be far more reliable and cheaper to maintain than a modern BMW or Merc. Even at over ten years old.
The first KIA to steal my heart, this is a piece of art from every damn corner, I'd definitely buy one if I have the money
My man Parker eating good!
I am very proud! it's from my country and we did super good job!
I am pretty sure this car will have timeless design.
And the tweak on the head ramps with orange LED! is so genius!
the Koreans are catching up with the Japanese
i love the seats, the grill, and the z lights in the car lol. the wheels are pretty cool too and so is the rear leg room lol
ill take this than any american car lol
j az I very much dislike American cars. In my opinion they are SHIT. American car fanboys come at me.
Moe Moradi they are shit in a sense of what? Performance?
In his opinion. Meaning every aspect. You're just trying to provoke a war.
torkju thank you for understanding. many people do not understand the fundamentals of the English language. "In my opinion" and people think i am making a statement.
Moe Moradi I very much understand it's his opinion I simply was curious and the reason he thinks American cars are shit
I don't expect to ever get a Kia, but it does look very very nice! I am impressed
do you guys do all your cinematography and editing yourselves? because it's quite good
My wife and I were sitting in the Kia showroom as our daughter and husband were buying their new 2016 Kia Optima. We both kept eyeing this car. I am tall at 6'-4". I sat down in this 2017 Cadenza and couldn't believe the head room I had and the roominess inside. Mind you, we weren't there to buy a car but I looked at the pricing and it looked like this could become a reality. I asked the salesperson helping our kids out to show us one of these with the technology package (next step up from the white showroom one). It was time consuming for him to find this car but they had one and had it in White like we wanted. He finally brings it up, 5 mins of looking this car over and I was sold. This was a first for us anyway. Before this I never even knew about this car. Peter Schreyer I understand is their designer. I have been studying everything I can about this car after our purchase. We bought the next level down from the one in your video with black leather seats. I agree with everything thing you guys said about this car and couldn't be happier with our purchase. We love this car and it's looks! Purchased 1/7/2017
I don't understand why people buy new cars that are so basic that you can't use the key to unlock the door remotely... why not just buy a car that is 5 years old with the same money and get something way better?
themikester223 In my case, I want to be the first owner of the vehicle, know it's complete history amd enjoy a full warranty. In the case of kia they have a 5 year 60k mile bumper to bumper warranty and also a 10 year 100k mile powertrain warranty, but they only honor the powertrain warranty to the 1st owner. Having monthly payments for a car with no warranty is not ideal for many.
toddf93 Ok that makes more sense
themikester223 žz
themikester223 5 years old? thats a bit old... get a 2 year old current-gen used car.... for example, instead of paying $110k for a new s400, get a 2014 s400 for $65k with about 30k mileage and 5 year unlimited km warranty...
but when you buy a lexus lets say, it'd be better to have a new one cuz the price doesn't drop much over time...
Here (saudi arabia) if you want to buy a new Audi A8 from a dealership ur gonna pay about $95k.. or u could just go to Dubai and buy a 2012/13 used one with 35k mileage 5 year warranty for $30k (but u need about $7.5k in ur pocket for fuel, changing plate number from dubai's to saudi one, future repairs, full inspection and all that stuff)... then when you're done owning it for about a year u could sell it for $35-45k xD cuz here cars cost much more than they do in Dubai...
so anybody who buys new cars is probably considered a newbie lol most (if not all) ppl who know about cars buy used ones
Because they can afford new. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
GREAT REVIEW - BALANCED AND INSIGHTFUL
Now she needs a twin turbski V8, lower coil over suspension and some wider fenders
Freedom Child true
Freedom Child and rwd
I have been saying it for a while now kia is the new upper comer. I bought 4 kias in the last 4 years. Very nice and reliable cars luxury thats affordable.
I love that Kia is trying but they just won't make it with their brand on it. Kia isn't a luxury brand.
Once you build a cheap car there's no way you can build a luxury car and be successful @toyota @lexus @kia @hyundai @honda @nissan
Horizon Edits exactly
Horizon Edits Hyundai does the best job out of them all though with the Genesis. At least they brand them separately.
Josh _ They can try but they can't succeed. And this Kia is just too much like a Lexus LS
Horizon Edits Lexus is a nightmare.
Hey fellas! Great review I'm glad you took the time to go in such depth of a new Kia. This is a car that I would be interested in and I appreciate the information provided
people who are under 100 views?
+Mikey .......no
Mikey ..
Osman Kırbaş under 370k views?
Tempest yes i am you ain't
Kia need a new name for their luxury cars like Hyundai with genesis
DOS Flash or chevy with Cadillac
DOS Flash or toyota with lexus
Kia is owned by Hyundai and Hyundai already has genesis brand there is no reason for 2nd luxury brand .... what it needs is a special badge just like corvette or viper or mustang etc.... also they need a new badge for stinger gt and the whole Kia badge need to be changed just like what dodge did with the brand...
One of the best looking sedans I've seen in a while! I'd gladly roll in one of these!
You ladies are starting to put together some decent videos! keep up the good work. And for god sake, comb your hair!
***** Nonsense, I'm a gentleman and a scholar.
aky19832001 LOL!
SDD525 Stand down bitch.
and that's why I like my Optima 2014 Hybrid - fully loaded , not great as a driver , but I have a motorcycle when I need some adrenaline , but the car is super comfortable , very nicely made inside, loaded with tech ... great car to just be in and get to work and store and even cross country trips .
Did you ever drive the Jaguar f-pace, what do you think about it?
I have that car, It is fantastic! I was thinking before I bought it, it would not be that good because of the fairly low MSRP of $42,000 But when I took it for a test drive I was pleasantly surprised how nice the interior is and how fast it is for a crossover. This car can easily compete with crossovers that are $10,000 more like the Porsche Macan. The ride is far more sporty than a Q5, GLC 300, or X3. Definitely a car I would recommend.
Alex A sounds sketchy to me xD
Thebigdady Another car reviewing channel (CarWow) says it feels very cheap inside given that it is a Jaguar.
i own a 2015 its the best car i ve ever driven and will be for a long time .excellent car i ve had no problems with mine at all and 70,000 miles in 8 years now .
it looks like either a fusion in a samurai suit or a maxima
so...shit
Jt Rampage the 2017 F isn't bad and niether is the maxima in the looks departments but performance wise the fusion sport destroys both the maxima and this but this is the nicest
Tyler Wallace you have no clue, the Maxima is way better car than the little Fusion
+maximus10463 hmm 325 hp vs 300 measly horsepower and more weight
Tyler Wallace true dat 😂
Great car and review. You guys rock!
Great car, but this audience is too trashy to appreciate it.
Jared Shelton I like people like you.
I've watched many of the Virgin Brothers' videos and they seem quite unbiased.
Kia likes the Kia
A note on fuel economy . . . most of the 2.0 liter twin-turbo engines do well in EPA testing (where it counts on the window sticker), but their real-world fuel efficiency is generally on-par with (or worse than) a slightly larger V6 (which doesn't have to work as hard to produce similar power AND dump fuel into the air-stream to cool the turbos).
Just one example (out of dozens):. Car and Driver recently reported that the new twin-turbo flat 4-cylinder engines in the Cayman/Boxster provide IDENTICAL every-day fuel economy as the normally aspirated flat 6 in the previous generation. Nowadays, EPA ratings simply can't be trusted and the only way to get a good indication of fuel consumption is to drive the car.
Anyone else get a kia ad on this?
I love the videos! I look forward to them every day
review the Lincoln Continental!!!
Great review guys. Very objective and well researched
if u take this car and remove that shitty KIA logo people will actually love and buy it.
I Love Argueing On TH-cam like what Hyundai does with the genisis sedan
KayScotts they need to pull a Lexus for the Toyota scheme,Lexu es are toyotas with a different logo and some premium materials lol.
Genesis is now the Lexus of Hyundai. They took off the Hyundai name and Badging and is now its own luxury brand
first of all lolo is a bitch name,second i dont give a fuck about toyota or lexus haha,and how do you work at school ? and how working at school gets you money ? ure a dumb piece of shit
rear heated seats are standard on the 2017 Honda accord touring. Which is 38 grand. Also has adaptive cruise control, cooled front seats and heated of course, blind spot camera, etc
Just me or are those grill "fins" right out of a maserati?
Looks super nice
The negative comments about Kia/Hyundai are hysterical and obviously uninformed. GM has sold crap for many years, Chrysler is the worst, Ford is better than the 2 but the electronics are crap. Then you have Mercedes, BMW and Audi from the Germans. Mercedes reliability is terrible and the cost is outrageous. BMW, buy the extended warranty because that motor might not make 100,000 miles and Audi is the best of these 3 but is expensive. How about the Japanese, Toyota/Lexus. I've owned both and the engines went at 100,000 miles, Nissan/Infiniti you can have them, Honda/Acura, check that 9 speed automatic and the troubles with that. If you haven't driven or owned a RECENT Hyundai or Kia you have no credibility to comment. I own a 2014 Cadenza and it's been way better than my old Lexus which I traded in. No problems, more equipment, less cost to own and more comfortable. I never thought I would own a KIA either but I opened up my mind and made the move to KIA. I'll buy the 2017 Cadenza and enjoy it. I drive the car, I don't drive the logo.
I agree, new logo as soon as possible, like a small detail but important
Yup. Buy European, pay for the badge.
Euro cars though have legendary anti-reliability and depreciation. I thinj the only buyers for this car though are people who dont give a shit about brand cachet and just want a good "value" for their money.
Renaldo Nelson Exactly, value- oriented people. Somebody put it brilliantly, it's the One Plus of cars. It offers most of the best features available at an affordable price, though you lose out on super high end features and brand recognition
I love Vehicle Virgins
Kia's don't hold their value whatsoever. I would rather have an Audi A6 or Mercedes Benz E Class, because at the end of the day, it's a Kia. The car itself sounds well-equipped, as well as good quality.
Neither do any of the German cars you mentioned... I personally don't care if ignorant people would rather bust nuts over an A3 over this.. Not my problem
If you want a car that holds value, get a Lexus. German cars don't hold value great either. But I do agree that I'd rather get an Audi or Mercedes over a Kia or Hyundai...especially since Kia and Hyundai copy other companies a lot.
Heartagram Actually the Audi will hold value pretty well. The Merc won't.
kbent88 A 2011 Audi A4 is about 14k..A Kia Optima of similar mileage and year is about 11k..Audis don't hold their value..None of the German brands do LOL
Pedro Not all cars, genius.
This is indeed an attractive car, and even more because i didnt expect this from kia
No matter what Kia does people still hate on it!
Underwood95 ikr
Great review, but the only thing I definitely disagree with is that they say the steering wheel becomes stiff when you switch to sports mode which is not true at all. I drive my cadenza in sport mode most of the time and honestly it doesn't feel any different from comfort as far as steering goes. But I have to say driving it in sport definitely feels like a totally different car imo, absolutely recommend to those who are curious 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
It's lit
That is a really well done Review-video guys! keep up doing, you 2 are a dream-team ;D
I Liked.
Reminds me of the Hyundai Genesis G80
You mean the Genesis G80. They don't have Hyundai in the name.
+The Innovationist It's still a Hyundai don't be fooled by marketing
it may be a hyundai but Genesis is now like the Lexus. You don't say Toyota Lexus GS. Same with Genesis
+smack9x you're a fucking moron. Genesis is completely different than how Lexus is to Toyota (marketing). Here's why, Lexus uses Toyota chassis for their luxury vehicles. Genesis has a whole separate chassis that's not used in any Hyundai vehicles which means they're an actual stand alone brand that happens to be under the Hyundai umbrella. Do some research before you start spewing garbage that makes you look dumb AF.
ironvista The v6 in the G80 is still used by many other Hyundai and Kia vehicles. This is the same thing that Toyota/Lexus,Nissan/Infiniti, Honda/Acura,Chevy/Cadlilac,VW/Audi, etc does. It's the engineers at Hyundai that create and build the chassis for the Genesis lineup this is common knowledge. Show me proof that Hyundai doesn't make the cars with the Genesis label on them and that they are completely independent. They are simply marketing it under a separate brand/label/name so a dumbass like yourself will think it's made by a separate company.
2l twin turbo 4 cylinders wtf did i hear that wrong
Hape Sethathi there is no production twin turbo 4 banger it would be useless and expensive
Hape Sethathi none of those are twin turbo might have twin scroll turbo but not two turbos
Hape Sethathi im looking online at engine layouts hoping you are right but i see one turbo mounted to the front of the engine
dragonfire 9934 Ford ecoboost, BMW TwinPower....
but then again, not twin TURBOS, just twin scroll so...
4 cyl 2L twin turbo works well for Volvo, the concave grille also reminds me of a Volvo too.
Kia is in that sweet spot where they're
1: really trying to shake off a previous bad image
2: can't charge a dime for the badge
Woah a Buick..
its pretty much the best kia i've ever seen.
think am gonna buy one
I'm not a fan of piano black interior bits. It only looks good for a short period of time and then becomes a swirled mess.
John Jacob
Same with white leather, a year in the driver's seat will look like crap.
The orange front led lines are more pleasant to the eye either in daylight or at night. White leds are simply dirturbing and make any card with it a sore thumb to look at.
Get a Lexus ES for better brand , quality and reliable
Their styling is awful though
Jullius Correia
What are you talking about
Kia can't beat Lexus brand
Have you own or drive Lexus lately?
Lexus 2016 now
not 1990
Lexus is certainly not more reliable. Kia scored higher on JD Powers survey among reliability. I've owned 2 Kia's never had one problem. People that think Kia's aren't good have never owned one. Stop downing a car and company you know nothing about. Research my friend, Kia will be number 1 in the next 5 years. Besides Lexus is overrated
Quanteus Johnson I did do research buddy
Sounds like u compared VW to BMW
Lol
Not really, I'm only stating the fact that Kia is a better buy for the same reasons you listed for the ES.
Car looks amazing, as a 28 year old I wouldn't mind being seen in this regardless if it's a Kia plus it has an amazing warranty. They're basically giving you reasons to purchase it by having you saying "why not" plus it's pretty rare on the road.
So cheap in States and so expensive in Europe...
bee Lover Yes of course. It's funny how everyone desires the imported cars. Like here in Europe there are tons of people who look up to American cars.
(And I think we both know they are not that great if you double the price.)
even those are cheaper in the us than in europe where they come from (strangely)
rechenzeichen Yup...
What a beauty car! it's looks so impressive for me
The one time Kia decides not to rip off another company's design, they make this shit... UGH
Fifthcell can't please everyone.
They’re ranked third on the Consumer Reports reliability for 2017. They’re ranked number one in JD Power initial build quality.
who the fuck would spend 45k on a fucking kia?
The same dumb people who spend 45K for German badges on piece of shit unreliable overpriced luxury brand cars. Look at the reports from Consumer Reports, JD Power's, they all give far better reliability ratings than any of the overpriced Germans.
You guys should show the trunk too. How much space it has compared to rivals or just how much it can take
45K for a KIA, no thank you.
3-series with no leather/navigation costs the same. but that's justified as long as it has a BMW badge.
Yuu Tuuber 3 series no leather?
SDD525 It's a decent car probably for someone who is 50+. I would take a Q50 S over this car for so many reasons.
BMW is trash lol you can buy this KIA with less than 10k miles for almost half the price new. Can't say the same thing about a BMW thats gonna be in the shop constantly once the warranty runs out
Reliable? a BMW? Lmao hahahahaha
Ever since one of the designers from Audi left for Kia, Kia's car designs have improved amazingly!
Toyota Avalon is waaay better than this shitty car.
HOLDEN HSV lol you made me chuckle
HOLDEN HSV lord if only Toyota can actually get a decent head unit and not the shitty high school drop out ui they tout.
It is actually the opposite. The Cadenza is a way better car than the Avalon.
Tom Dublin
Why 🌚
Armaan Tondon
Toyota Avalon is more reliability and more attractive than the Cadenza ^_^
Very nice car. In the past few years i have been really impressed with Kia. However the Cadenza not having all wheel drive is a deal killer for me personally.
I had one of these at work today... Suprisingly nice for 30,000 CDN ... on par with a low end Nissan.
am I the only one who wants that "my gravity" song to play at the end of the videos... LOL
I love that kia has really changed from making Bicycles to cars that compete with BMW ' s, audi, ect.
My jaw dropped as soon as it came on screen.
Kia/Hyundai have really stepped it up in the last decade. They are impressive in all aspects. I own a Hyundai and am very happy with it for it's intended purpose....some really minor gripes, but overall great!
I have one and it's totally worth it! Best buy for the price, if all you care about is the badge get off your high horse and give it a try! With that said I wouldn't mind a redesign of that Kia logo.
I wasn't riding the Kia and Hyundai train in the beginning, but this is one really nice looking car. I'll take a V6 over a 2.0T however, I applaud Kia for sticking a V6 in it. The real world MPG isn't as good as advertised in most cases and while you may get V6 power with a turbo 4 pot, you don't get the V6 smoothness or power delivery.
Wow such a professional awesome review
Add horsepower and bigger tires and folk will be more interested. As for that interior? Holy cow! That's impressive for any car.
I think it's time to step up the quality of the interior camera to match the rolling shots. Other than that, great vid fellas.