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MGS5 ULTIMATE Analysis - The SHOCKING Answer To All Questions?! Real TRUTH Exposed!
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anything to do with snakes voiced actor being changed shouldn't be listed since the Japanese voice actor is the same for snake.
PythonSelkanHD thank you for the after work special watching it now.berny_mac twitter(kept us waiting huh?)))
Did You guys covered Dr. Canavero research on head transplants? If you didn't, i strongly recommend taking a look. He has been making claims about head transplant as early as 2013. In 2015, just some months before MGSV launch, he gave a presentation in Cyprus (yes, that Cyprus) for TEDx, where he talked about his research (He used terms that are pretty similar to metal gear universe, terms such as HEAVEN in all capitals) and even some talk about using virtual reality to make the head used to the new body.
The most interesting thing however, is that he ocasionally still appears on the news giving updates on his work (such as experiments on corpses, rats and monkeys). He even scheduled the human head transplant to early 2018.
And, of course, there is the familiar face of this Dr. Canavero.
I cant for the life of me find that specific twitter about 'source code' of Kojima, did tweeter delete it and you kept it from that moment on?
Maybe 'metal gear' got overwhelmingly bigger than ever expected by the makers,
so it all became "a twist for the sake of a twist, and F their storyline"
... in which case i'd say:
If konami - or kojima - were HALF as consistent as 1 video of yours
i can only imagine what kind of MGS games we would have today.
o7
So basically, the entire experience is like the movie Jacob's Ladder. A dying soldier's journey through (Outer) Heaven and Hell as he comes to terms with his life, loss, and acceptance of his fate.
This just makes the game even more sad and horrifying. Like the movie.
Venom Snake is easily the most tragic character in the entire series. And for a series full of tragic characters, that's saying something.
Does it mean the mgsv was just remembering what happend in 1984 when the venom is dying after fighting with solid in 1995?
Especially when you realize that both solid snake and big boss both get a 'happy' ending big boss finally realising what the boss meant and solid snake becoming free from the people who control him.
Mr. Battle, I am certain that it's just another message, Venom/Anti-Venom. If your Red Green Deficient Color Blind, Read Between the Lines: Lives. REFERENCE TO A FLAG.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Just so much didn't make sense and it seemed to intentionally contradict its own timeline. So once again - we'll never know what truly happened between 1974 peace walker and MGS1. Only the footnotes.
So basically, if I understood this all correctly, we're experiencing Venom's distorted recollections of the events of 1984 as he lay dying in 1995?
Yes, the truth is in the details at the start. Before going in a coma the doctors said that he only had some shrapnel in his head, not really life-threatening. But when the Cyprus doctor is showing you your X-RAYS, it looks like you were shot with a shrapnel machine gun all over your body. How did that happen? It happened because that scene is true and your body is like that after losing to Solid Snake.
Eriq Anderson and venom is gray Fox! Solid snake killed him in outer haven..meta gear 1989 or whatever.
@@ajontebush6629 he is not gray fox. snake saves gray fox and than kills venom...within the same mission. like stop already.
@@julianmarco4185 Which subsequently means that MGSV is Venom recollecting past events, actual memories jumbled together with the brainwashing and false memories. Or, something far more sinister... Venom is being used as a guinea pig by the Patriots/Zero/Cypher, as the prototype for their VR trooper program, attempting to make someone into a supersoldier by brainwashing them into believing that they are the legendary big boss.
@J C Vid said that "Snake (Supposedly Real Big Boss)" was a manifestation of Venom's subconscious. "Big Boss" said that he had watched over Venom for 9 years. But the passport in "Truth" had been stamped in 1978. That and Ishmael/"Big Boss" looks nothing like the real Big Boss under the bandages.
I'm Greek, i can translate it for you, 1:11:29
Nurse: He is not in a condition for plastic surgery
Doctor: Someone already knows he has awaken, he is in great danger, we have to act immediately
get him ready for surgery..... i don't believe this*...
Nurse: ...I don't believe this*.....
* ''i don't belive this'' here feels equal to '' this is impossible'' or '' how could this happen''
Και εγώ είμαι Έλληνας!
Thank you
"He experienced all your missions on record and shares all your knowledge and experience"
"He played every MGS game on record and shares all your knowledge and experience"
Venom Snake is the player.
yet still cant talk russian like big boss
Also, mgs 3 has purposeful time discrepancies to prove youre not in the given time period.
I also theorize that mgs 3 is Venom aka the player replaying the mission in Vr
@@Mykulveli exactly, i know he didnt plan it from the start but, in MGS3 in the intro it shows things/clips of things from the 60s. They showed the moon landing.... but that hasnt happened yet, cause the game takes place in 64, moon landing was 69.
Watch “Why Metal Gear Solid V is an Anti-War masterpiece. It’s an excellent video of similar length to this one but with more political and philosophical content, It also ties in the player Venom connection in a disturbing way.
@@Mykulveli and calorie mate was a big hit in the 80s^^
1:18:25 is the biggest giveaway. You can play as anyone from a combat team on a mission and return to motherbase and everyone will still salute you as Boss.
Much like how the imaginary Miller and Kaz seemed to be talking more about Venom (us the player) instead of Paz when talking about her situation... Most players who play TPP, since we are all Venom Snake, seem to block out anything that doesnt correspond to our internal timeline (what we're told in the game). Its why most people just believe what the game tells them instead of digging deeper.
you mean Kaz and Ocelot?
Yes, 4 months later I see the mistake. Lol
You guys make Game Theory look like Amateur hour
Overrated kids show
They can't even explain an obvious theory with one video, always making it two or three part videos, with their merch adds in between..disgusting
@@mrnobody8941 speaking or merch ..... buy our game theory *6 mins later* ..... back to the theory........
10 mins later ...... buuuuut we need more time to explain it so tune in next week for part 2, and maybe a 3rd part.
@@AzguardMike And then take weeks or months to release the second part.
@@mrnobody8941 MatPat: "The sonic book says he is 4ft 5 but what does saga know? Looking at this street and particular this building..... pixel calculations, he is actually 4ft 4, suck on that SAGA"
it because of that attitude alone i got put off by him. Then watching him play FNAF on GT Live, i realised he isnt even a real gamer. His sister or whoever she is, and the stream tell him stuff including lore based stuff. Then Matt puts it into a theory. He even steals entire reddit posts and other youtubers content (Legal Eagle even called him out after MatPat quoted him word for word)
Ocelot: "His Family, his face, his identify…. everything was stolen from him" - he is describing Skull Face
But at the same time, it's also applies to Venom Snake...
These guys share the same past....
Two sides of the same coin..
Venom Snake is Skull Face, dawg.
@@ericb.1384 plot twist
okay i'm serious here. This is really freaking me out.
Game came out a few months before my accident, I was put in an induced coma for a week. That's all I know. No memory of the accident. Just some horrible visions (also experienced time go backwards). After watching this video, I'm starting to question just what the hell REALLY happened. This is just really freaky. The months following, things didn't feel right, no one will tell me the full account of the accident, they're always vague, and give no reason.
edit: into an hour, it's getting real good now. holy shit. well done.
EDIT 2: I experienced the tetris effect in full, it's not cool.
cvc tell us more
I know this might not help you much. But I am a person reading your comment right now. You're not dreaming.
I know, thats why I said it won't help much.
If is a joke it's not funny, and Kojima is at a Milano, so isn't a dream. But who can separate the dream from reality ?... If you guys (and me too)have doubts, stop thinking about it. Fucking perverse world at we live, huh ?
Edit: any our comment won't help in this way. Sorry.
I know this might not help you much. But I am an alien lifeform reading your comment right now. You're not dreaming. You are being controlled.
Kojima didn't want to make another Metal Gear game, he succeded. It's not a Metal Gear game, it's just a hallucination of what we wanted.
Daremo The same can be said of MGS2.
“You too have known loss, and that loss torments you still...” sounds like the metal gear fan base after mgs 5 to me
No one wanted MGSV
@@timekeeper2538 2 is a middle finger to the fans and a brilliant one.
@@RR-rn2nl i think you are wrong about that, no one wanted mgs survive ;)
I always heard this channel was nonsense, and the titles and dimly lit/ high contrast aesthetic made me feel like it was just another channel of fan hypothesis turned conspiracy wherein they point out something obvious and say that it could be something because theres a big enough hole for it to be not completely ruled out. But I didn't have anything to watch, so I gave it a shot again, and instead of pointing out those obvious events and making up a story around them, you pointed out dialogue that doesn't make sense that I had never thought about before. This is actually really compelling. Figured I'd say that this was a pleasant surprise, and some of these insights are things I would have never noticed and have never heard anyone else mention.
yeah, but it also could be shortened in a lot of spots because some scenes drag on way too long, or gets repeated. it's not bad, it just drags on for too long on some places.
Still... in a dream...
Snake eater
:D
O.O you right...
Ever seen the anachronical refferences in Snake Eater that place the game in 1984 despite Virtuos Mission occurs 20 years earlier?
-Virtuous Mission.
-Virtual Mission?
-No. VIRTUOUS Mission.
Ho. Lee. Shit.
You saying snake eater is a continuation of V's hypno dreams?
I want to cry. But not in a bad way... this almost feel like nostalgia for me... Like you guys were part of my life. With your analysis and every video I have never felt this way before. You guys made me love this franchise even more. Excellent job!
Thank you so much MaxiRivera! It means a lot! :)
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@@PythonSelkan i want to say i love your work but hate that clickbaity title
Chico: “GET AWAY!! YOURE NOT DAVID HAYTER!!”
Big Boss: “🤫 *slowly chokes him unconscious* Shhhh..”
🤯😂😂😂😂💪🏼
The story of venom is really sad, imagine being brainwashed into thinking you are somebody else and the worst of all forgetting all your past ,all your people.
Btw, the ACC (Aerial Command Center) can be a reference to the Anterior Cingulate Cortex.
According to wikipedia (lul, there is better sources of course)
The anterior cingulate cortex (ACC) is the frontal part of the cingulate cortex that resembles a "collar" surrounding the frontal part of the corpus callosum. It consists of Brodmann areas 24, 32, and 33.
It appears to play a role in a wide variety of autonomic functions, such as regulating blood pressure and heart rate.
It is also involved in certain higher-level functions, such as reward anticipation, decision-making, ethics and morality, impulse control, and emotion.
In French, both are CCA (not ACC).
pAroxizm Great catch!!!
so, the Cerebral magnetites could be the base for the creation of Nanomachines used in conjuction with metallic archea. The shrapnel in Venom's head is the key because it functions as a collector for all of his cerebral information. He's basically the on-field test for the creaton of stealth-wireless communication and though control.
One could even say that the 4th wall was broken long before. In MGS3, after being tortured and relieved of half of our eyesight, we have an opportunity to experience a lucid dream with an eerie setting comparative to that of the interlude PT in between GZ and TPP. Wielding two blades we cut through every creature within our path with agile movements. This is reminiscent to Raiden's swordplay in later installments. It is known that in MGSV the player is conflicted with two faces and one personality, Venom Snake and Big Boss. In MGS3 we are given a mask replicating Ivan Raidenovitch Raikov, or as we know, Raiden's face to wear in order to infiltrate our way through a part of the game. Could this be yet another trace of dissociation attempting to cling to reality?
What I find most interesting about the several game connection between the two characters is that after getting 100% on every mission in MGSV, we unlock Raiden as a playable character. As if to say you've completed everything these Virtual Missions had to offer, you've become the perfect soldier, now the illusion of Big Boss can fade and your true self can be revealed.
I think that Solid Snake has the only concrete or "solid" story that can be backed up with proper timelines, paranormal bosses can be explained with advanced technology and nanomachines (with the exception of Psycho Mantis, perhaps his entire existence is just a personification of VR induced psychosis).
Naked Snake's story on the other hand is just that, naked. The core to creating the perfect soldier. I think the entirety of MGS3 is the first Virtual Mission Raiden is given after a healthy dose of brainwashing, then through Peace Walker to the end of MGSV. It's all a simulation of a man who never was, and that we the simulated soldier are meant to become.
At the end of the day, it's fun to speculate and your videos help our minds wander. Illuminating the dark hallway of Hideo Kojima's mind, where answers just become more questions. Thanks for the quality content.
"I'm still in a dream, Snake eater !"
I once thought the defining artistic theme of the unfinished MGS5 that we got was reflecting the feeling of something so cherished being taken away, that The Phantom Pain became more than a game and was elevated to work of art because it left most of us feeling grateful but empty, a heartfelt reflection on losing something so fundamental. That changed for me today, now the message I've taken away is that there are people out there who will help you through the loss. Thanks for the rehab PythonSelkan, this is much better than that prosthetic Survive
When playing GZ, I did wonder why Snake was oddly stoic, Kaz was inconsistent and there are phosphenes everywhere. Your theory definitely supports this...great stuff.
@pythonselkan - Whilst I have your attention: have you ever found it odd that VS is much thinner in the hospital than his disembarkation at Afghanistan? There’s no way someone could bulk up that much on a boat ride from Cyprus unless one travelled very slowly...
What's really tragic is that even after learning what had happened to him, the fact that Big Boss used him to such extents and Venom/Medic has utmost loyalty to him! He played his part even to his last. He had more than enough reason to fully hate and betray Big Boss but he didn't.
55:18 that was strange and fishy reaction from the translator guy. PythonSelkan you forgot one interesting fact which you metioned in your early analysis of MGSV. In GZ the shadow of the Big Boss head looks nothing like the real Big Boss head more like avatar or the medic from MGSV and in TTP in the hospital the Venom shadow looks exactly the same like in GZ...
Big Boss' shadow in Ground Zeroes while in gameplay is of the medic. The shadow does not show the mullet of Big Boss and looks like the shadow of the Medic in GZ.
venom snake appears to be a victim of Monarch Programming, which would make the butterfly motif we keep seeing throughout the game make more sense. Butterflies representing Monarch mind Control although the butterflies presented in this game don't look like monarch butterflies. Also dissociate disorder is essential to mind control in Monarch Mind control aka trauma induced mind control
Arwen Luna Apparently the victims of electrical abuse/shock therapy experience a feeling of similar to thousands of butterflies all flapping. But then there is also specific meaning associated with the Monarch...
MK-ULTRA.
After watching these videos overtime, I've come to really respect MGSV more and more. Venom has taken Solid Snakes place as my favorite character. Such a great, yet tragic story.
These analyses' are fantastic
Outlaw 2 solid snake will always have a special place in my life but you're totally right on this one, venom snake gets the 1st place in mgs lore.
Outlaw 2 heaven's divide(instrumental) is Venom's theme ( for me)...
jose leon but venom is gray fox! Is he not?
TacticsTechniques&Procedures but venom is gray fox. Jaeger has always been my favorite since mgs1
@@ajontebush6629 Venom isn't Gray Fox. That was debunked awhile ago.
Masterful analysis!!
Great video. One interesting thing I wanted to add was that it is said during lucid dreaming, what you see when you look at a mirror shows your subcounsiousness. You see things different than you would expect. This may be the reason we see "Ahab" when we look at the choppers mirror. And also the ending where big boss talks to as inside the mirror may be related to this. Some other examples can be found, such as the beginning sequence with the doctor showing yourself the mirror without no appereant reason. I think this strenghtens thr analysis.
You guys deserve a lot more views and a lot more subscribers. Your editing is crazy, your research is impeccable, you guys know your MGS lore. I aspire to make videos as good as you guys. Keep up the good work.
MGSV is very underrated and I’ve always known that it is actually a beautiful game. But this video proves it, Hideo Kojima at his finest.
Daniel GamingReturned Agreed
@@CerealKiller what? It was my first metal gear solid. I started with the series a year ago and I love the phantom pain soooo much that I spent 157 hours + in this game. Everyone looks at what the game didn't made good but. Mgsv made sooo much things perfect. The graphics,the innovation,the gameplay,the voice acting,the cutzenes,the companions and the soundtrack. It's true that big boss doesn't talk so much but only because kojima said he wants that we are big boss.
Dude I drive for work will you ever make an audio version in the near future?
Horatio Trujillo new pipe! Try it
@@fedthedual3382 he meant one with voice over.. Instead of text.
No
I use to drive so I 100% understand now my struggle is trying to clean my house and watch these at the same time!
Right, they obviously have audio equipment and they're the only mgs channel with text instead of audio
Watching your videos gives me the same feeling I used to get playing through and experiencing the the secret files in the Assassins Creed games. Super creepy.
Im at 53:19 and you guys made me feel so bad for Venom Snake man.... I almost wish the timeline broke off and Venom killed Ocelot & Kaz and started his own war against Big Boss for all that brain washing you guys noted.... Ima continue watching now.
Well, he cut off Ocelot's hand eventually
No he didn't, Venom was killed by Solid Snake years before the events of Metal Gear Solid
Snake, what have you done? You changed the future! You've created a time paradox!
Well that's probably why the venom started the outer heaven rebellion and the real bigboss sent in grey Fox in the msx venom started to rebel against everyone
@Rokku Ishikawa Unfortunately Venom is not Gray Fox.
...wow...you gave me alot to think about...and the interview, in which he said "my next game, here is the 80's, heres now" what if...what if kojima being "fired" is a ruse to pull the wool over our eyes, and konami develops metalgear survive, while kojima develops that other game he is working on? What if its connected? And what if...after survive, a new metalgear is created...finally revealing the truth? With kojima and konami working together on the project?
God, I hope so
this is my only dream
so you mean that "Death Stranding" is the new "Phantom Pain" (the pseudo-game before the MGSV Reveal) ?
Jessen's Channel no. Just saying
Like a hegelian dialectic
Hideo Kojima is more than just a game creator. He is a true philosopher. Thank you PythonSelkan for demonstrating it!
This explains mgs 2 and how ocelot becomes liquids dopilganger using the same method,to induce himself As liquid
Konami should definitely come out with Metal Gear HD. It would be a remake of the first Metal Gear game that came out for the Nintendo. It would be interesting to see the Metal Gear story continue with Venom creating Outer Heaven and then seeing Solid Snake appearing for the first time to take out Venom Snake. Then after that Konami could come out with Metal Gear 2 HD based off of the Metal Gear 2 Nintendo game that shows Solid Snake going to Zanzibar Land to stop Big Boss once and for all. I would love to see those two games in HD for the PS4. I think that would be a huge profit for Konami.
Pinwheel thematically they would have to follow the original games absolutely because if they try to go off on their own we'd have another Metal Gear survive story. People say metal gear had zombies for years. Yeah, but it wasn't the entirety of the plot... the biggest challenge for them is making cutscenes for the Codec. Nobody's going to want to see game characters in 2019 or 2020 sitting in a codec talking to each other-- that's that's going to be the biggest challenge for Konami if they remake the games. That alone is enough to Splinter a fanbase. The fox engine creates a good base but they still got to have good writers for the story. Those are the biggest challenges.
This like the twist at the end of a movie that blows your mind
THIS IS PERFECT TIMING. My birthday is today, what a great present.
HB
Pakxs happy birthday, have a great one!
Same here! What a present!!
And I was seriously about to comment that this _wasn't_ mine ! lol
HB!
I lost the count how many times I watched this and I still enjoy it as the first time I saw it two years ago.
Also, by the way, at 15:28 that artwork show us (the real Big boss???) wearing his bandana. You know that at the end of the chapter 4 from PW, Snake throw his bandana at sea, but in chapter 5 is using it, unless is another bandana.
Is odd that some artworks put him with bandana. Maybe some parts are true?
I think because mgs without bandana is no mgs. I only learned how to deal with the motherbase system because I wanted the bandana. I was almost finished with the game it was my 157 playhour
I just watched "Source code" after seeing this video. And it made me realise something.
The cabin where the protag is trapped all the movie looks similar to the helicopter main menu of both GZ and TPP. To the point it feels like a split reality from the rest of the game.
TPP case is even weirder, why have the main menu in a helicopter instead of Mother Base, from where it would be logical to control every base management aspect like it was on Peace Walker?
Knowing Kojima's movie obsession I don't think it is a coincidence.
I think if you have not reached 100%, at least 80% at what you are saying must be how this thing was planned.
And if, in the end, all of us have been putting too much thought on a simply unfinished game, well, at least you made me see with better eyes the only MGS game I despised.
One or another Congratulations for this video. It was a wild ride.
I have been waiting for this!
The game is over, but... you still had a score to settle! Now go, let the theories come back to life!
Movies need directors like you.
My theory is that both Ishmael and Skullface are actually Venom Snake, told through some very artistic 3rd person view... Like a ''Fight Club'' on stereoids scenario. Ishmael clearly doesn't have any facial hair undernearth the visible part of the bandage, there is no way Kojima who is very meticulous in attention to detail just left that one hanging, as we see the reveal of the real Big Boss and Ocelot talking at the end. ''Supposedly'' only moments after Ishmael was dragged out of the car we see Big Boss with full facial hair again and in all his gear ready to leave. I'm not buying it. I think the Big Boss and Ocelot reveal takes place in a seperate event from the car event all together. Also, my theory is that Skullface, like Ishmael are just ''characters'' manifesting in Venom Snake's mind, versions of himself. If Skullface is really just Venom Snake's manifistation then it would atleast show ''how'' or ''who'' he turned into in order for Big Boss to earn his bad rep later on. At this point, all I know is that we can't take anything from MGS5 at face value.
when and how did Kojima confirm the appearance of "chico" in the P.T. trailer?
pushi hunta I was wondering the same thing. Hell, I'm not sure if I even know what P.T. is.
P.T stands for Playable Teaser. A playable teaser was released for the game Silent Hills on PS4. Kojima released this PT as a puzzle for fans to figure out and solve it, upon solving it you get a trailer for Silent Hills.
HeartKiller It was a typo. It was meant to say, "...what P.T. (IT) is." I never played it. Never was a big fan.
Post trauma
Never IN MY LIFE have I clicked on a video so fast holy shit, this is going to be a good day.
Right? These guys are amazing. This is such niche content, and it's exactly the reason why I am on youtube. Stuff you'd never think you'd ever see, but here it is!
Me too man! I saw the notification and I clicked the video immediately!
My eyes bulged out of my head when I saw the video link in my subscriptions page
I used to preach this on NBGO. David Hayter has been pretending to be mad at kojima this entire time. He always knew he wasnt actually replaced. The character he voices simply does not make an appearance. Kojima vs konami is also a lie.
Skeptical Fox lol, sure, Kojima getting fired almost 3 years ago was part of a charade to promote a video game
Skeptical Fox To put it simply i think Kojima was forced to make another MGS game and he and his team decided to make V.. A false mgs5 the fans always knew this was never marketed as a mgs game right from the start.. then Konami found out what was going on and that would affect the continuity of the series so Kojima was fired because made he literally ended his series by making something that wasnt really true to its source material.
Jose 84 of anyone would actually do this it would be Kojima lol so it’s not that far fetched
Also to prove you theory, in the canon timeline (I think) big boss only falls into a coma once in the 70s when the sons of big boss were created. (Kojima confirmed this pre release of the PP) So from GZ we couldn't have been playing as big boss but rather his phantom. Whether they are real events, hallucinations, vr mission or brainwashing/created memories is beyond me
So Venom is in a coma, within a coma... No wonder he's considered punished.
inception
Steve: Paprika
Hell
I was TODAY years older when I suddenly realized that the “V” in the title “Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain” is NOT the Roman numeral for “5.” It’s just the letter “V.” It’s almost a lexical ambiguity indicating that things are not what they seem- in the same way that we think that Venom is Big Boss until the end. 🤯🤯🤯 Kojima let us know from the very beginning!!!!
What I got from that ending is, just like source code, Venom "now" is destroyed by Solid Snake and Dr. Clark who may or may not be dead has obtained his body and through similar methods used to maintain Solidus and Big Boss's lives, jack in to Venom's mind and have him relive a simulated or fragmented telling of his past? I assume maybe to learn some that Venom had discovered during his time as "Big Boss" that was of importance?
Which funnily enough explains why most of Phantom Pain is relatively uneventful, compared to previous titles.
what would be the point though?
random encounter maybe a setup for an even more important game.
pyschadelicsnake which would also end being somewhat in importance through metal gear survive which would hint and the next kojima game death stranding in which i have a theory is some sort of rebirth
@@avocadopictures9706 what's the point of anything?
I definitely think one of the parts which is useful to distinguish between Venom and the real Big Boss is also how reserved he is. A common trait among, a the very least, Solid and Naked Snake was the inquisitive nature, which ended up becoming a bit of an inside joke among fans.
Instead, Venom is just so quiet and distant feeling. I would expect the real Big Boss to comment on Ocelot's little lesson to the troops by using Snake's own advice.
Edit: Something else I just thought of, do you guys think that Zadornov's arm can play into this somehow? I'm sure you brought it up in one of the other videos, but I'm struggling to remember now, and I think it is definitely applicable.
Something like Venom perceiving his prosthetic replacement to be similar to one he remembers from Big Boss' memories and the photo's he was shown that really stick out to him, as I imagine such a prosthetic would.
This deduction is very interesting and it makes a lot of sense under the right conditions.
The hospital scenes are awesome but they don't make a lot of sense. Now though, it is starting to make some sense: the doctors scene is a mix of real and fantasy created by Venom Snake. When they showed his X-RAYS all that shrapnel in the body makes no sense when after the Ground Zeroes mission, one doctor said: he only has some shrapnel in his head. That makes no sense if you trust the game, but if you consider that this happened after Solid Snake defeated him in the first game, then it makes perfect sense that he would have those injuries.
Wait I don't understand anything. But why venom has the horns in the phantom pain when it was everything a dream and how does the photos fits there because he wants to remember with the photos but what he wants to remember when it's all a dream??
Wow, Source Code's director Duncan Jones is David Bowie's son. Talk about coincidences/Everything happens for a reason
Hugo Ceja I FLIPPED WHEN I SAW THAT!!!
kingkeefage Do you think Kojima would go that far as to pay tribute to David Bowie?
I do think so.
Hugo Ceja Dude, yes. He LOVES Bowie. In Snakeeater, Zero goes by Major Tom, Diamond Dogs is a Bowie album and song, and the Man Who Sold The World is Bowie's third album. Wtf?
kingkeefage this comment blew my mind more than this entire video
kingkeefage don't forget that Kojima initially wanted Space Oddity (Song by David Bowie) to play in the credits of MGS3 but it didn't fit the mood.
The same goes for the MGSV intro with The Man Who Sold the World.
the hypnogogic parts in this video are something i can relate to because i regularly suffer from sleep paralysis. Sometimes the hallucinations outright attack me. It looks, feels, and sounds so real, that it's hard to grasp that it didn't happen when I finally break out of it sometimes.
shortperson20 is it true that all hallucinations in sleep palarysis are negative and usually creepy?
Same question
Dear God. Every fucking time you guys upload a video, you make my head explode in 50 different ways. Ive personally never played any MGS game. However i keep coming back to your theories! Love you guys! Keep it up!
29:47 never really counted the ocelot part of him not remembering thought it was a reference to the old games and for the players to react to since venom doesn’t really react to it. But yeah it seems like he has recognition of it
fun fact since i havent noticed it yet, Source Code's director was Duncan Jones, perhaps more famously known as Zowie Bowie, son of David Bowie and original writer of MGSVs unofficial theme song, The Man Who Sold the World.
Well, Paz said it, the entire game is her dream.
Shared. From a hyper MGS fan to you, this was incredible. I hope these hints and theories flesh out and we see how deep Kojima can go.
Well that´s one awesome video. The amount of effort and work you put into this is incredible. You know the universe.
After this video I feel bad for Venom or in that saying, for US. Because WE are Venom.
But I think, you have the finger right on the solution. It all fits in the theme. Why the game has a V instead of a 5, because of the whole "1984" theme. Why the voice actor changed. The english actor atleast.
One question still hangs over the whole game: Is this the ending/the solution we were supposed to find out?
This all just powers the phantom pain of not having the answers and feeling, like something is missing.
The game is what the title says: The Phantom Pain.
Really nice video. I´m gonna think about this video for the next hours and days :)
I loved this video, I've been obsessed with MGS since the 90's and it still carries on to this day. This video was masterfully made, and you guys blew my mind. Kojima is truly a madman/genius.
Incredible work as always Gentlemen :) I was blown away by this one, possibly you're best analysis video yet! I love the "conspiracy" based videos you guys do, but this one was special because it is so largely based in fact. This explains soooo many plot points and grey areas that MGSGZ and MGSV left behind. Excellent work! I look forward to more Death Stranding content
So, just had a thought watching this, dunno if it gets covered later, could Venom have been a beta test for Zero's genome therapy?
Amazing video! I would never have realized all of this by myself playing the games. It's just too much to follow, to remember, to be able to get the contradictions and the subliminal messages in the details.
I also watched a 40 minute video about the references of Moby Dick in MGSV and how the game is a misinterpreted masterpiece.
What I can conclude from all of this is that Kojima is truly a genius.
Can someone explain me the big deal with the Volgin Scene, as well with the Pysho Mantis scenes.
Assuming MGS V indeed happened, it means Psycho Mantis gets controled by those that are in huge rage. Psycho and Volgin were at the same place, and because Volgin was close to Mantis in a coma stage, Volgin and Psycho made a connection. Volgin goes after Venom, but when he realised Venon was not trully Big Boss, he stops chasing V.
That also explain why Mantis and Volgin help Venom when the soldiers found him on the corridor: Volgin wants his revange, so he won't let soldiers kill "Big Boss".
That's also why Skull Face does not kill Venom at the Devil's House (it would make Volgin angry).
Mantis also connects with Venom, that's why he has the horn too. Venom and Mantis use the whale to destroy the helicopter.
Since Mantis is a kid, he has a strong connection with kids too. When Volgin was going to kill Venom, Mantis saw the kid dying in pain on fire, and that made Mantis distraced, so that's why Volgin freezes (they loose their connection for a moment).
Volgin dissapears when Sahelantropus steps in Volgin because Eli (that was a kid in rage) started a connection with Mantis, and Eli decided to destroy everything in front of them while using Mantis as a puppet. Even Skull Face asks who has such a lust for revange.
So all of this was just Venoms imagination?
No,if i understand everything right,that was memories
This video is amazing. Also this is the only metal Gear game which has a roman numeric: V. Is this actually 5 or is this metal Gear solid Venom? Kojima never wanted to make 5 and this may be another low blow to Konami I think
Sounds interesting
I always interpreted the Paz hallucinations as the real you(the medic) coming to the surface, or at least it was what was left of him cognitively. He felt guilty for not finding the 2nd bomb in Paz and her dying because of this, not to mention Chico dying and the real Big Boss being hurt in the blast. Or it was because you(the medic) was in love with Paz and didn't want to accept that she was gone. Or both.
Here's something interesting to note;
Konami progressively added more FOB's and Higher Grade weapons post-launch (originally Grades 7-15 never even existed). If you go to invade someone with specifically 4 FOB's, notice that the selection list leaves a 5th option at the bottom empty, as if to say no one has this yet. Combined with the fact that the only item sitting at the highest Development Grade of 12 is the wormhole generator, the only other list in the game I can find with a space missing is on the Mother Base tab on the iDroid (Metal Gear's 0/1?). Why would they bother adding all the way up to Grade 15, develop nothing for Grades 13 onward, and suddenly care about the Nuclear Disarmament being triggered by accident?
I'll go one further; Konami keep referring to the Disarmament cutscene as an Event. Keyword; Event. Like "FOB Event"? Don't you guys find it curious that they have these auto-cycle FOB events on a huge list yet empty? Hell, if the Nuke Owner Tab worked, it would fill up everytime you went on it. Robert Allan Peeler (ex-community manager) confirmed that when the servers read 0 Nukes on a platform it'll unlock Chapter 3 shortly after the Definitive Edition was announced. What if Chapter 3 and the missions pertaining to it are solely Online Only and can only be accessed via the FOB Event's tab, as a way to prevent Data Miners finding the missions?
But It was triggered on accident and it led to nothing?
Christopher Rapczynski I think we found out that was triggered because there was some cheating happening on the PC...
Zak Ras that would explain the comment about something never being done on video games. Kojima did mention in the development cycle that there would be something in this game that would never been attempted before. I think you're onto something when you say that the rest of the game could be hidden online so people can't data mine.
I am of the firm belief Konami control the switch for disarmament. Even if Kojima Productions were still part of Konami, it seems too big an event to leave to chance. I'm not trying to claim any conspiracy; simply that they monitor the amount of nukes left, and when it reaches zero they are given the choice to flip the switch after garnering publicity/announcements etc. It doesn't make a lot of business sense to leave that purely to luck in the open. In which case, "accidentally" triggering disarmament would result in nothing unless Konami flip the switch.
This was really cool. My only issue was regarding your theory of the English voice actors of Big Boss being switched. This doesn't work because the Japanese voice actor never changed.
You earned a new subscriber, the editing and the attention to detail is beyond any expectation of TH-cam I got chills
MGS 5's ending was a fake twist. Or, a double switch.
Donald doublethink
2+2=5
Mind = Blown
GREAT FUCKING JOB AS ALWAYS!
you guys are true fans that appreciate the small details and allow us to join the ride
Thank you and keep it coming!
p.s. "Eyes on Kazuhira"
This was fucking amazing, mind blowing, I cannot express what it made me feel. Thanks for making this, makes me love MGS V even more, I never watch long videos but I could not miss this, great use of soundtrack and superb editing, text made it even better, great job.
Teacher : the exams is gonna be easy
The exams :
it kinda killed me in the inside to find out venom is limbless in a bed just remembering everything. Is this real phantom pain?
At this point you think:
- We lived that moment?
- We enjoyed Venom’s distorted memories?
- We are someone that use Venom’s life as VR training?
The answer is: all of three. We don’t know what happened in the 1984, but it’s already happened. And we don’t live them, because it’s a videogame.
Holy shit.. 😳 I mean, many of the points made in this video are crazy good points but, that passport detail... 🤯🤯🤯
Awesome video. I love how this game has so many theories and how it's so vague, but at the same time drives me crazy. Ishmael is one of the characters that is hard to stop thinking about. It's been a while since I finished the game, but i saw in one of your older videos that after the truth sequence in the hospital and Ocelot meets up with the real big boss at a time a few hours after Venom and Ocelot get on the whaling boat. I feel like that's pretty concrete that things aren't as they're being shown. I like to theorize that Ishmael is actually a projection of your former self, keeping you alive. It can't be big boss because of both eyes, missing beard, and lack of CQC. You could argue he has a mask, but then what about his decision not to use CQC and also his lack of willingness to help pick you up and get you walking to start out at the very least. I don't believe anyone was actually in the hospital with you. I think Mantis latched on to your want for "revenge" or whatever and lit Quiet up with your will. Just like how Mantis has your horn on his head when Moby Dick comes flying out of the water, from your will.
I just hope someday Kojima decides to do some sort of epilogue to this game.
Wow. This is absolutely brilliant my friend. Everything that never made sense all adds up now. This was incredible. Thank you.
Hideo Kojima is the greatest game developer of our time. Perhaps all time. Granted, 3d gaming hasn't been around all that long, but Metal Gear has influenced every popular action adventure game franchise that came after it. I feel privileged to have grown up playing this remarkable series. It even influenced my decision to join the army after 9/11. The recurring themes of doppleganger, man vs machine, modern masculinity, PTSD, resurrection and others make this franchise so much more than just a series of games. They are a philosophy. A way of looking at the world. Much respect to you guys for understanding this and showing your findings to the world.
My mind just gets obliterated by analyses like these, and I love it.
subscribed! amazing analysis backed up with deep research and critical thinking. impressive. As ocelot would say, you're pretty good. If what you say is true, that it's really hynagogia, then it really gives me a better appreciation of the repeatable missions mechanic. All of it just makes so much sense it blows my mind. I wonder if all this was done intentionally or if it was just a wonderful mistake on hideo's part. I mean, even the entirety of mgs3 could have been a virtual mission, of which Venom was subjected to through hypnagogia. Oh man the mind fuckery is strong with this entire series. I'm gonna miss it so much. Looking forward to death stranding. kudos to you for such fine work. keep it up man, and all the best.
Great analysis ! I admit that this video softens my own phantom pain, thank you very much for that. My Metal Gear's fan heart was suffering since I played "The truth" episode, septembre 2015... That's a massive and significant job that you've done.
It's 2022, there hasn't been a new Metal Gear since Survive.
And yet, MG series still does feel complete.
In fact, Dr. Clark is shrouded in mystery. I already had a theorizing thought about her, but it's not official. What is official is did she truly died by the hands of Gray Fox, or did she survived? Is she also competitive against Dr. Madner as both are developing a cyborg technology.
Who knows? There's loads of questions and I am sure that despite 100% completing it, there is something that we have missed.
Even more strange is that Hideo posted more Metal Gear stuff on Twitter than before recently. While he is a creator, it is sadly still belongs to Konami. So why is he freely talking about those?
And the main question: I find the missions repetitive after completion.
...So why can't I stop playing!?!!?!?¿
I'm sincerely amazed from your video! Talking about info, editing, music, facts and of course MGS! Perfection!
Nearly perfect video! Just needs a voiceover and it'd be platinum! Hope you remake this one day
Bravo PythonSelkan.
Really amazing hard work along with presentation. You guys dedicate soo much time researching this amazing series and you guys should get more respect for that. Not only you spend time, but the quality of work you put in whether it's the theories, research, editing, its really amazing!
Many of us have opened our minds thanks to your analysis and are hoping this all comes up true!
Thanks you for this , masters is the rigth word to qualify you....i have been following you since 2013 and you have gave mi amazing moments ...Thnaks !!!
After watching it through a second time, I've got my own spin on the overarching nature of the plot that I can't wait till I have the time to make the videos for. ;D
I'm doing the final render of the prologue for "Kojima's Deception", but check out Parts 1 & 2 if you're curious ahead of time! I've got a few twists for speculation among viewers until Part 3 is out. ;) Also, thank you Python & Selkan for giving my comment a heart, I appreciate you guys immensely and wouldn't have been able to make my own series without you guys opening my "third eye".
The idea that we don't actually see big boss in this game at all does make it easier for me to understand why david hayter isn't the voice. Cause if we are to believe that that's really big boss hopping on the motorcycle theres no reason he couldn't have done the voice when V isn't around.
david hayter isnt the voice because hes a bad actor and kojima finally made a game without him polluting it with bad acting lmao
Classic PythonSelkanHD analysis background music. Pretty good.
"You're Pretty Good!" ;)
- Python & Selkan
How about a little list of this awesome music, to be able to catch the glimpse of MGS and your videos without youtube?) PS: And now, at last, this explains EWERYTHING! Why there is no David Hater, why we didn't fight Volgin and Mantis, clones at the start, fire whale, Miller and timelane inconsistency... Every complaint I had with the game are explained here, with each your video about MGS5 I love this game more and more.
It’s easier to live a convenient lie than a painful truth.
You guys are bringing us truth, the the only thing we need.
Thank you!
Just finished watching this, simply amazing. Now i'm going to watch your latest mgsv videos.
Just noticed that you guys posted a new video today, the day i watched this video for the first time. What a coincidence.
Duncan Jones is David Bowie's son. The Man Who Sold The World is thematically relevant to this game. It all comes together and I'm freaking out.
Why the man who sold the world is relevant? I mean kojima first wanted diamond dogs at the beginning of mgsv
Python.......What took you so long?.....
Selkan.......That was perfect.
I loved MGSV, good to see someone still making videos on it:)
In summary: yongyea is the phantom, and PhytonSelkan is the real Big Boss!!!!!!
I cannot believe i watched this whole video. Your analysis really breathe a new life for me, on how to see this game again. Playing the game was an enjoyable experience, never played other mgs title, some trivia like the ornament gun, i never thought it would be a nod to the earlier series!
Though to the point when the mission starts repeating, it becomes painful to continue playing, and if your analysis turns out to be correct....
Damn, that just means we, as a player, was conditioned, like hypnotized about the mission we already take, and it was painful to redo all that, hence why called the phantom pain, *our* phantom pain? Hahahah
Now i wanted to play this game again, thanks to you!