What I really like about these videos is the way they start out with architecture (interesting in itself) and then broaden out into much more general social questions. Always thought provoking… thanks again and keep up the good work!
Netflix doesn't pay their people either. We need to pay her directly through Patreon and let her keep doing her thing. Being on Netflix doesn't help anyone with anything.
It’s funny how certain content creators can make subjects you aren’t even interested in interesting and entertaining and engaging. I don’t care about architecture. I like Dami.
While I *am* interested in architecture I must confess the first thing that drew me to this channel is the cute way Dami moves her mouth when speaking. Her right and left sides are... asymmetrical? for want of a better word.
@@5Gburn😅 what level is not like it will ever rain or something 😂😂😂 can you imagine how cold humid and miserable you’ll be there. The cold would creep up from your feet. Professionals just loose commun sense the moment they get the degree.
I loved the waterfalls and the water reflections in the 'Human' design. I've experienced some stunning architecture here in Japan with features like these. I wonder what actually living with such beautiful features would be like. Would I grow accustomed to them and stop noticing, or would they continue to fill me with awe and joy? On the subject of AI, it's wonderful, and so useful. I use it every day for work and fun. And thank you, Dami, for yet another interesting and thought-provoking video!
They take the time to point out the issues with the AI design and completely skip the massive issues with the Human design. Semi submerged in a lake with variable water level? extensive water curtains that would shut down the restaurant in the slightest wind? no problem.
I went to architecture school and now code Ai. The hard part of this is lens. Ai is trained to give the most probable response, meaning that its giving you what it has seen the majority want from that prompt. Where in architecture school we are taught to make the big or drastic moves in design. So you end up with what in Machine Learning is known as overfitting where the human design is geared toward the small group of designers where the Ai is choosing something more generic. The same goes with the renderings where the stable diffusion is trained to create edge models and then transition them in a way to be appealing to the eye, where as the human renderings are focused on the important features in the designers heads not necessarily to a general audience.
I would definitely like to see an AI challenge that focuses less on the renderings and concept, but instead focuses more on the layout and design details. As a potential home owner, I'm not going to be buying a rendering, but a home. Voting on images without the rest of the information is like picking a color pallet without any context regarding what it will be used for, it might look pretty or even make me feel a certain way, but it doesn't have any practical use until the rest of the context is added.
For your purposes, it wouldn't be all that useful. You want a guided design that factors in cost and efficiency and usability, something AI has no thought of. Like when you see those AI designed rocket engines, they aren't actually better. They merely try to use the least amount of material while keeping a similar or greater structural strength, but may not actually achieve the same structure strength, and don't actually understand the concept of how things like temperature and pressure could affect those materials. And they don't even actually factor in performance either, or things like repairability, longevity, manufacturing issues, etc. All AI can do for you is give you something neat to look at, that an architect could then take and turn into reality, and decide what's possible or not, or up to code or not. That can still be very useful, as usable creativity can take a long time. AI can mash things together in a way you might have never thought of. AI can generate floor plans, but the best process would probably be to create floor plans into a simple 3D model with walls and rooms, and then have the AI to render it with possibilities on everything from wall color to baseboards to where windows could be and what type, etc. Of course you could have AI create a render, give it to an architect, and tell them to make it as close to that as possible, and for most cases that would probably be good enough as long as you had enough coherent detailed renders, it wouldn't be too difficult to figure out from there.
The fact that the renders didn't even match the plans the Ai created...they were just pretty images and videos of buildings completely unrelated to what was being put forward by the Ai says everything. The fact the discord didn't notice this makes me question lots as well! For reference I examine home plans every day in my job, even with human designers there's some terrible mess ups so it does go both ways lol.
@@QuinchGaming You can create images that match the floor plan perfectly, they just didn't use the AI properly and didn't realize there are common tools to do that with. So it's not an AI deficiency, it's a lack of skill problem. They really went into this like a person who has just used AI for the first time.
@@QuinchGaming Discord wasn't given any context either. It was a simple A B choice between two images or two text blocks. I'm actually confused about where the data for the category ratings they show in the video came from.
I haven't even finished this yet, but can I just say this is one of the most creative and high quality channels on this platform 🙌🏻 I'm always excited to see a post!!
I agree. How much I love Dami been the split light. She deserves to be queen of all youtube because of how the creates content in a unique way of engaging and entertaining the audience with anime related and other stuff. Love the unexpected. 🥰😎
Even though AI images were much better in terms of colours etc, I can see that human design was special. AI have the tendancy to generalize designs and ideas while humans can be creative and combine different elements. Also, there are details and constrains which are obvious to humans like, asking yourself always "how to build this." Meanwhile AI can give you plans without doors or literally floating roofs. Well, the problem is always the industry. The constant battle to seek optimization will eventually force many designers to get kicked out. Because, corporations can pay one guy with 5-6 AI tools instead of 6-7 designers/artists/architects/engineers. The money, costs, and the ease of control over an individual within the competing small market is more appealing. That is the scary part. And isn't mentioned enough I believe.
I don't understand that blowout vote, which is why I do not believe in focus groups nor judging like this. That MidJourney forest minimalist glass structure I have prompted myself on many occasions. The human proposal had experiential flow, attention to detail on sight lines, plus it had that "out of the box" ideation that humans do so well. I even find ChatGPT to sound a bit "see spot run." There's little that is poetic or savory within. I use about 5 AI platforms AS TOOLS, and they work great as such.... so I agree with your final conclusion. Humans still have to drive the creative; we are blessed with ego, doubt, uncertainty, emotion and ambition. Also, evil AI Dami is... ya know... great episode!
I came to the same conclusion. I liked the final product produced by the human architects... FOR Gordon Ramsey. Some comments -- and the AI -- seem to forget who the client was. Also, I'd like to see the return of evil AI Dami... let's just call her Dark Dami. 10:48
Do Architects consider the burdens of Maintainance of the design? Accessibility, cost, life time etc! A design could be impressive to experience when everything, the ecosystem surrounding it, is “static” or perfect. But materials age, corrode, break, and therefore needs to be repaired or maintained. That’s when the real cost of a design shows itself. Impressive videos as always.
@@DrakeyStarly When it becomes the work of the engineers everyone gets sour towards each other. Engineers are frustrated by unrealistic, expensive, or over budget ideas while the architect gets frustrated by a bunch of ideas getting shut down. Architects should really take estimating classes and value that stuff. Good ones do. Because when they don't, the whole team just gets in a bad mood
@captainreza1 I totally agree about considering the burdens of maintenance. Underwater/underground living spaces mean something different to anyone who's ever had a leaky or damp basement.
I'm not an architect but a concept artist working in game dev for the past 10+ years. For me, AI, especially image generators are two things 1) a faster tool than google, when I'm looking for either foundation to photobashing or a great tool for mood board. 2) a FANTASTIC filter when it comes to telling which people actually understand that AI is a tool with very limited and which people belive it to be a holy grail that will replace us all (so pretty much people who have no clue how machine learning works;P) In first case - AI is proving to be great at being sort of "porsonal assistant" that can help me speed up my drawing process but also a tool I need to be checking a lot due to mistakes it can make and lack of efficienty. Just beccause it can generate the image fast doesn't mean it's usefull. In 2nd case... Well it helped me filter my "friends" list on linkedin when I deleted a lot of cluless people who are jumping on AI bandwagon just like they did with crypto and NFTs :D
Awesome video as always. I liked the second concept personally. The "S-bend" over the water and into the forest with the living quarter nestled into the shoreline was an super interesting concept with a lot of untapped potential. You didnt show the thought process behind that design, but I have some ideas that may flesh that concept out a bit more. I think reversing the hook and making the Island a commonroom with a hearth it makes better use of the vista of the lake while creating a closer knit social space. By placing an open concept kitchen between the two dinning areas I think you may you may still achieve the desired connection to the food. The aroma of cooking would flow through the whole building, calling people to dinner before meal times, building anticipation and drawing in people to observe the creation process. The open concept kitchen would also allow guests to interact with the people curating the meals, increasing the intimacy of the experience. The back wall of the kitchen space could be half wall/half windows to cloister the area and give you a wet wall for a hand washing station and a counter with dumb waiters (the tops of the dumb waiters would sit flush to the counter until needed when it would raise up out of the counter, the section of counter top on the dumb waiter would rest on top of it instead of being attach so when it was lowered the counter space would not be lost and prevent objects being knocked down an open hole and facilitate removal for easy cleaning) to remove dirty dishes or bring up supplies unobtrusively from a lower level that had exterior access. The lower level could be accessed along the same back wall via a spiral stair that is compact, but comfortably wide enough to allow two people pass with empty arms (1.5 m wide?) without pushing past each other. Along with the ground access for supplies the lower level of the kitchen would have the dish washing area, refridgeration, dry storge and washroom facilities for staff. It may somewhat ground the appearance of the floating architecture concept, but having it near the apex of the hook in front of the treeline would allow you to obscure it with greenery. Blending it in nicely with its surroundings. Just some thoughts. The design was amazing as shown. Keep up the fantastic work.
of course its the best one... they went with the worst.. thats what people with egos do. they dont want to hurt anyones feelings. should of incorporated the water features into the curved design. they were thinking two dimensionally... instead of three.
Now this... This Is pure entertainment. It's so refreshing, I love it! Then again, I found interesting how the AI designs were... Something like I saw before, somewhere. It was beautiful, but non-imaginative. But... *"The Path"* really took my mind away. Is it true that AI can do amazing things, but it's far for being perfect. It still requires... More. It needs more soul, more passion, being more "human" if it does makes any sense. For me, humans actually won this. Why? Because I don't give a crap about the renders, but the ultimate result, the "pure" creation and it's process. From heart, I believe both we can work together. _"Help me, help you"_ ...Oh, and I love the theme of this video. The "Man vs. Machine" really got me engaged. Kudos to Dami and her team for such an amazing video!
I always find it fascinating to see how individuals interpret nebulous concepts and bring them into reality. It would be amazing to hear what led the team to choosing what it did with regards to the final "sunken" design. I tend to think of "floating" as soft, rounded, and organic, which seems far from the angular, sharp design chosen. Neither view is correct, of course. I am fascinated by the reasons behind why some people interpret these ideas one way, and others another. The one thing I absolutely love about the chosen design is the waterfall hallway, aligned to the setting sun. This is an absolutely stunning concept that I hope exists somewhere in the real world!
I for one would like to remind our new AI overlords that as a prominent public figure, Dami can be useful in rounding up all of the other humans to work in their lithium mines.
Firstly, as an engineer, I hate architects very much. Secondly, this channel and this channel alone gets a pass because it’s actually awesome. Thirdly, I hate artificial image generation far more than architects, so I’m happy to root for the architects, even just this once.
Dami, can you please release merch with the iconic pic of you pointing at something that you usually use in the thumbnails? Love you and your channel, you're the best channel in TH-cam.
Ooo!! You guys should do a challenge where you create an architectural design that hilights the aging of the building/materials over time. Like each part of the house/property is a different stage in its timeline....but still beautiful. Ex: Like the front entry way is new, but as you go down the hallway, the wooden floors and walls are more worn, which leads you to the living room that's 10 years old...and the kitchen is 20 years old..... But highlighting the beauty of the aging materials, and how they refract light differently (for windows) or feels different with age. Idk if any of that made sense. But I just thought it'd be a cool thought experiment!
I get the feeling that if you closed the vote non-discord people and instead went with builders, contractors, designers, artists, modelers, and architects and not just fans of the channel on a popular chat app, you would get different results.
As a sci-fi fan, I used to wonder what it would be like to have a literal world of information and analysis available by merely summoning it, and here we are, in its rapidly developing nascence. And the creative aspect of AI is fabulous as well, and is already creating wonders. 'Actual' AI scares the hell out of me, because a self-recognizing program programmed by humans is a frightening thought--and I still hope I live long enough to see that. But I'm really enjoying the current progression...
As someone who lives in a stormy area, that semi-submerged design gave me a whole lot of "nope" energy just on a matter of practicality. Looked like a little bit of rain and wind would quickly flood the place. Some of the AI renders meanwhile look like they at least give a few feet of clearance above water (but still probably going to get flooded all to hell during storm season with how low and close to the water it is).
I really don’t understand how people preferred the Ai photos, not only were yours more original, many of the Ai generated buildings made very little sense. They had stairs going directly into the lake from bedrooms with no walls, there was also the room that was just a bunch of cushions thrown about, and it struggled rendering the chairs in the dining room. If I hadn’t been told it was Ai I think I could still confidently say that most of the Ai designs didn’t look right. The rooms didn’t go together, and especially when you showed the floor plans, no part of them made any sense. I just don’t understand how someone could pick them over the human design, even if they were a bit rough, it’s still objectively the cooler concept. The Ai didn’t follow the prompt either, ‘Airy floating escape’ and it was legit just a glass cabin with no kitchen for the client. The human design made sure to include both and was a cohesive idea that took all parts of the challenge into account.
@@enadegheeghaghe6369 that’s literally what it is. They admit they hadn’t used some of these modeling applications before, this is the rough draft. And it’s still better than the clunky nonsense the ai spat out. Why are you defending AI art to begin with? It’s not like there was any actual feeling or work behind it. It took a max of 5 minutes to write the prompts, and seconds for the AI to spit out some half baked cabin in the woods.
@@christophergallagher4921 where exactly did I defend AI art? I said nothing about the AI art. Just pointed out that the voters probably weren't that impressed by the unfinished look of the project the humans put out. But even if I did defend AI art, so what? Are you one of those people who insists we must all automatically hate anything created by AI? Cause that is a ridiculous stance. The AI product was more than just a simple "cabin in the woods". You only use such derogatory language because you hate AI in general. Let's be honest, there is no AI created design that you would ever like cause you hate AI in first place. If the AI had created the submerged building design, you would have ridiculed it. Also something being done fast doesn't mean it's always going to be bad. Something that took a long time to create isn't necessarily going to be good either. I might take months or years to create a piece of art, it's still going to be rubbish if I am not a good artist
@ firstly, I can admit when I am wrong. I apologize. You are right in saying you never defended the art and my hatred of ai art clouded my judgement of the incomplete work of the humans. I still stand by the fact that the human art was (in my opinion) better than the AI art only because all of the elements were cohesive and made sense together. I can see your point though. Had the humans piece been done by AI I probably would have had similar issues with the design. I do personally have a vendetta against Ai though, I believe it steals jobs and just gives corporations another means of cutting cost and being lazy. The work by the humans can be defended by the fact that they were not used to the software they were using, but the design was still lacking. I think the humans design was still more original however. The AI design was just a cabin. The floor plans made no sense, and the outside shots had elements that were just slapped on. I do see your POV, and I respect that AI can be used in specific circumstances, but this isn’t one of them. There were rooms with no walls that had stairs going directly into the water, the renderings of individual rooms had design elements that were nonsense. But if you were using it as a rough draft, you could still get a general idea of what you wanted. I apologize for getting heated.
Really good point on how the tools shape design btw! I have the exact same feelings about Revit - while it's a great program, I still think it's best to start your design in a more freeflowing environment like Sketchup/Rhino/a piece of paper so your ideas can take whatever direction they choose, and _then_ move over to Revit for renders. Because if you start out in Revit, while the process might be more streamlined, like you mentioned you'll subsconsciously start designing _for_ Revit with boxier forms just to make your life easier.
That's how I feel with revit too. It's too restrained if you just started out for concept. It should probably be use for construction and coordination on big projects once the overall concept has been determined.
i think if you do a round three maybe you can approach where you pass it off to a firm and have them decide which one they would sign up to build. because looking at your renders alone i get a sense for space and scale and how things are connected, where as the ai images feel like your building a lakeside condominium and these are looks at the different models in the catalogue. i mean one image is a floating house, one is on stilts, all the rooms are at water level yet it’s also 2 stories. it has all the consistency of me trying to draw anything anatomical
ideas like submerged spaces seem really interesting, but, I wonder who cleans that glass of all the algae buildup? How much maintenance time goes into that? If the location climate has wide seasonal temperature variations, then how does thermal expansion and contraction effect the barrier seals between the water on the outside and the dry, submerged areas? I think about about back-end concerns like this when I see really cool design concepts. I think about walkway flow movement from one space to another, and how many different ways any one location can be arrived at from another. Where's all the plumbing go, and all the other dirty stuff, like environmental insulation, and environmental control, as well as efficiencies involved in the energy footprint? How locked into a singular design will the end product be, and how flexible/adaptable would it be to remodeling/renovation in part or whole as the tastes of the owner and/or potential future markets change? I think I would make one of the worst clients because I would be constantly picking at things and asking questions like these.
Gonna be brutally honest, the fact that you lost is more than anything an indictment of the taste of the people on your Discord. The AI generated designs were inferior in basically every way if you look at them for more than 3 seconds. Is AI impressive? Of course. However my main takeaway from witnessing the reaction to generated images has been that visual literacy is in dire straits.
Makes my day when a full featured @DamiLee YT video pops up in my feed, absolutely love the context and cinematography. As a native NorCal guy that’s very familiar with the area, I’d love to see the Orinda project.
I am an aerospace engineer. I think my work is interesting and fun. But I think it would be impossible to create a video to communicate that as well as Dami does for architecture. She’s genius.
It’s great at resampling training data. It doesn’t think through anything, it’s the ultimate illusionist. Can be useful to pre-visualize “ideas” clients make up as they go. In that use case, it could save a lot of frustration, as long as you don’t get paid for iterating the old fashioned way.
Thank you for another great video. I work daily with different AI tools in both business and creative. You hit on a key issue. If you have a concept that isn't, well, a mainstream thing, then they don't have any examples the model has learned from to draw upon.
This video was excellent in its concept and execution. The tale your are telling although quite sad in its outcome, says something profound about an era where technology has come to blend with the very idea of sci fi. I realize you are working with quite the team, but the synergy here is palpable so hat's off to you all.
Hi Damilee, I love your thought-provoking productions. I have never replied to your messages before. Damilee, the walkway with water poring over the sides was awesome. Progressing through the walls of water on both sides provides an experience of leaving one's frenetic life to emerge into a relaxing vacation, the imagery of parting of the Red Sea motif. Brilliant! Also, the sunken dining room in the lake was excellent. TLDR. It should be easy to outdo an AI. I do it every day. AI lacks the human touch, soul, and desire. It can only work with humans to create what they want. If you ask it to do something vague, it can only produce what is statistically the best concept based on its data and programming. But it does not understand what a good or bad experience feels like. To illustrate this point, imagine you have an AI-driven car. It possesses all road, weather, and traffic knowledge. It can take you anywhere in the world more efficiently and safely than you can drive yourself. Now, we will park the car in the driveway. What will it do? Will it drive away? No, it will sit there forever because it does not "desire" to go anywhere. If we programmed it to drive all the time, it would leave and never return. If you instruct an AI car to create a generic trip, it will fail every time. It doesn't know what you like and cannot experience pleasure or displeasure. It will create a trip based on statistical analyses of what most people have done. It does this based on its data, not on the subjective human experience and feelings. However, if you guide an AI car to create the perfect trip, it can do that better than a human can. But it's important to remember that AI can only help us get what we want because humans can desire pleasure and avoid discomfort. AI-based architecture will analyze modern building structures and designs to ensure they comply with modern economics, regulations, and lifestyles. It will design the most common square structures of concrete, steel, glass, cosmetics, etc. Therefore, the AI's impressions of what people want in a retreat are predictably based on averages. But we, as humans, bring the element of surprise, the unexpected, the unique, to the table. An AI does not know what it feels like to have a retreat experience. To exchange the feeling of the frustrating modern life surrounded by sharp-edged square concrete, steel, and glass boxes for something organic, novel, or subjectively pleasurable. Like a geodesic dome tent looking over the Swedish Alps, a hut on a Caribbean beach, a wood A-frame cabin surrounded by a dense forest, a hobbit home in a hill, a teepee in an aspen grove, or a star viewing deck atop a round tower, a modern cave, or a treehouse! But Damilee, you know what that feels like. You could have chosen a retreat 'experience' and outshone those soulless AI bots. But you went all in with the vague nouveau architectural style, the AI's sweet spot; of course, they excelled in that area. The AI offers the illusion of opulent serenity, using an open scenic landscape, wood veneer, large open windows, and simplistic causal furnishings to mask its rigid, antiseptic, industrial architecture. What is left if you remove the wide-open landscape and wood veneer, have no wall-sized windows, and remove the Bohemian furniture? A box? A box with large communal rooms with bored people hanging out? The AI resort is the very thing people are trying to get away from. Is architecture simply aesthetics, or is it an experience? If it is aesthetics, the AI will always win; if it is an experience, AIs are clueless.
this was not quite fair because AI renders and videos are results of lerning from artists and they nkow how to make liting an texture good , while your renders are based on existing 3d models with less focus on it looking like art. I guess the best would be to compere just projects drown by pencils on drafts and same style drowing for AI. this will be a fair comparison of architect skills: desine, shape, creativity.
It’s going to be rocky for creatives across sectors. I think we all thought AI would take care of the tedious, undesirable jobs in life we all hate doing, but instead it found its best use-cases in the prestige, white collar jobs we all vie for already. I know someone will chime in with, “Yeah but it’s just a tool and we have to adapt and we’ll find new ways,” and all that, but the sober objective truth is there is no outcome in which AI doesn’t kill off a MASSIVE amount of human jobs - especially in the creative and knowledge-based sectors.
Super inspirational and quite intelligent on how you have kept AI in the 'Clevertools' category and not in the 'Overlords' just yet... Seriously I do enjoy that ability for architects and I hope engineers and quantity surveyors to be able to bring projects together on budget and avoid the many pitfalls that happen in building projects through the judicious use of these tools which can communicate among each other seamlessly without 'Ego'. From a country that will soon open the world's most expensive hospital per bed -- Yeah that's embarrassing -- here';s hoping this works out.
I really enjoyed this video. But if I may. With option three, I immediately thought of the Death Star trench followed by the Viet Nam Memorial. The lower level quarters did not feel warm and inviting at all. Option one - not more cantilever, please. Fallingwater anyone? I liked option two because it had an organic feel, somewhere between forest and food, lol. The AI floating solution nailed the fundamentals of the design request beautifully. You guys do such a great job, so informative and fun.
Yeah i loved the concept conceptualized by the AI but that's the point. The rapid iterations and easier collaboration where everyone is on the same page gets you 80% plus to a product that's better than without AI ever could be. But a person still needs to go thru to add doors, remove extra fingers, and make sure the project is actually viable.
18:10 "Let me help you help me help you." Virtuous cycle. It's not safe enough yet that we could trust-fall into its open arms, but I don't even think that it _wants_ that at this time. For now, _Teamwork makes the dream work._ _Personally,_ I chose Team Human for the win on this one. I love the airy and watery design, for starters, and I appreciated that you guys actually had a coherent floorplan.
At first, I was a bit hesitant about your video during the opening minutes, but knowing the quality of work you and your team consistently deliver, I kept watching. I’m glad I did, because you absolutely nailed it with this one. The stunning visuals, paired with a compelling and relatable narrative, made the video truly inspiring.
Tbh I think the AI's design came out a bit generic, your own was so much more intriguing and personal. Btw I 100% agree, AI is such a powerful tool to expand the possibilities of a good designer and actually of many, many conceptual works
Hello, I’m a software developer, and I think AI (in my case) is amazing in how it can help solve simple problems or predict what I’m about to code just by writing a single line. However, sometimes it struggles to properly solve mathematical equations (such as algorithm speeds in worst-case, average-case, and best-case scenarios), and I believe AI occasionally lacks coherence with real-life scenarios.
Imo, AI is better suited for the more mundane works like sorting, tracking info or maybe generate code based on prompt. As at the end of the day, AI are still codes and algorithm so it can't think too logical and realistically.
This was such a beautiful example of how AI works as well as how the creative mind works. As a creative I've often been asked if I am not afraid AI would steal my job, the answer is no. While AI can in fact take prompts and create stunning visuals and wax poetic using automated response tools, it is still just that, a tool. The biggest room is the room for improvement, our imagination is endless, there is nothing AI can take out of our minds unless we give it. We just have to see AI as it is, a tool for us to use to take our imagination to the next level
Oof, the AI-generated concept is so generic. I guess the pictures are pretty, but...pretty doesn't mean interesting. A town's worth of energy & water used to create something I've seen a hundred times? I'm not seeing the value.
That's exactly why AI shouldn't be used for creativity. The use cases she gave at the end are much better than trying to replace human ingenuity with AI copies.
It's weird that people like it though. People voted for it even though the AI project was less interesting and at same time not technically correct. I think this is why AI is kind of dangerous - you might think something is easy, when in fact there are lots of hidden errors, errors your manager might not see...
The thing that worries me about AI is that people will start to rely on it to much on it, and by extension feeding it more AI generated content, leading to the AI eventually only being able to learn from whatever it itself is outputting, which will render it useless and is, as a product creatively inept. So in other words it’s not AI that worries me but it’s the human drive toward finding shortcuts.
tbh the design made by humans was like way more original than whatever the ai came up with. yeah the ai stuff looked pretty and such but it was kinda boring.
Are you not entertained., I’ve only just discovered Dami’s videos and have been on a bender.’ As a carpenter/craftsman I really enjoy the design process and humour , please keep up the great work Dami and crew. Wishing you all great success. Cheers 🙏🏡🍀❤️
In the end, AIs presentation looks nice, but it's nothing surprising. "The Path" is about surprising the visitors. AI can't really do that. I think AI could very well be a good start for a lakehouse. But for a retreat like this? It will just end up looking like every other place.
I still think your human proposal was much better, the other looked like a mashup of cliches... I get the point that the mashup of cliches might be what most humans like 😅 In any case, your thoughts on the whole experiment where the most interesting part of the video.
I can't believe I'm just now finding your channel! Your insights are helping me as I write my screenplays, making me consider the architecture in certain scenes and how that will affect the beats and outcome of the scene. You've got a new subscriber!
Been working in engineering for almost 30 years. The prospect of not having to deal with human architects does have a certain appeal, has to be said. 🙂 Great video as ever.
@@LashanR I was more worried of the semi sumerged desing with fake waterfall that will become filled with moss and stop working in a month, but the cantileveler at least that is kind of doable, building a half a bridge in place with prestressed cables and need another house just as counterweight.
I mean sure but do you want to buid AI generated mess on real world too which has no real knowledge or code. I think you would have more problem unless someone has to fix them. Imagine a client didn't hire Architect and generate everything buy themselves and give you the contractor ti build it as exact as you can. You still gonna need to fix alot.
Personally, the waterfalls and path and half submerged dining rooms were a bit "much" for me. The more basic 'lodge' is closer to my idea of a retreat. In my opinion, the humans went a bridge too far and designed something more suitable for a memorial or a museum. On the other hand, _doors are awesome. Love your channel anyway, Dami. You rock.
The production value on these videos is insane! This has become my favorite channel on TH-cam and I knew next to nothing about architecture before! 👍 👏 🥇
I just started architecture school and looking forward to every challenge ahead. Hope everything goes very smoothly for me and every new student like me. Also wanted to say, ever since I discovered this channel the production level has improved significantly
Where AI falls apart (and I think this particular kind of AI will continue to be pretty useless) is in details. The floorplan was a good example, or the renders that don't match. Everything these programs make is good until you look closely. So look closely.
AI video looks so uncanny. Not sure if it's the way they handle the keyframes or what, but it looks too fake, too smooth, and everything looks really bland. I much prefer the rough 3D classic look of architectural rendering techniques. Plus, nothing makes sense, as DamiLee explained at the end of the video. Not to sound rude, but I believe the vote the Discord community made is meaningless. They're just looking at pretty pictures and clicking a button. I don't see how the AI renderings are better in any real context.
Yes, there should definitely be a new Discord for people in the field. As long as we can put our big egos aside and collaborate, we’d always vote for Team Human, if there's one thing our egos can agree on!
It looks fake because it's not transitioning from frame to frame of recorded or generated motion, it's transforming the image on the fly. Think of a jelly creature faking walking by transforming to simulate actual movement.
Interesting video, resonates a lot with a recent New Yorker article on how writers are using AI tools as an idea generator, and that it is, like tools such as word processors before it, shaping the way writing is done. But, in the end, a good end product still takes a deep level of human thought and sweat to burst forth
Awesome video. The key take away is the progress AI has made, in all manner of GAI, and how fast it continues to improve. I've been watching it for almost 10 years and it is mind-boggling. About six years ago, I paid tens of thousands of dollars to some developers to build a mobile game I'd created. While a solid concept, It failed and I learned what I needed to do to fix it. Problem was, I had no more money to put into development and marketing. Fast forward to a few months ago, I used an AI chatbot to code a new version of the game. Over the course of a few days of a 1-2 hour sessions, I had a functional game that mostly accomplished what I needed it to do. And it cost me $20. AI will be a tool that rapidly accellerates creativity, business and progress. Will it disrupt industires and jobs, certainly. But creatives who embrace these tools to enhance and expand their abilities will find success.
I don't really have an opinion on the AI or not question, but I am glad you didn't choose the "overlook" or "loop" designs to move forward with. As an introvert, the "overlook" had me thinking "I would never visit there, because I don't want people walking overhead when I'm trying to just chill in my room." Maybe you can solve that problem - although after a decade of wear and tear, I doubt the room ceilings would still be soundproof - but I'd never find out, because I'd look at the layout and just "nope." As someone with a lot of experience in customer service, I'd hate to work in the Loop because crowd movement would suck. Everyone would be stopping in the dining room over the water, and it would be overcrowded. No-one would walk to the forest one, and it would be empty and overstaffed - but you wouldn't want to risk removing staff because the instant you did that, everyone would decide to go there instead. Eventually someone would figure out the shortcut to the kitchen area and you'd have guests cutting into service areas. And so, again, I'd look at that floorplan, decide the experience would be a zoo, and go spend my retreat somewhere else. I feel the version you did choose was the best balance between "cool" and "usable." So I'm curious what led all y'all to make that choice.
I use AI every single day. But I find it has more accuracy on STEM tasks than creative/ cultural tasks. I tend to use it for tasks that are monotonous or to create templates that I can further develop. I still receive an enormous amount of "hallucinations" so I don't trust it to give me information. Even historical dates or names of people or projects. I still end up researching because it's so often wrong. I find it better suited to develop ideas because it gives you a sense of objectivity. However when I read can the chat history the real progress is coming from me, but AI helps me see through another perspective. I've completely lost faith in it's capability for image generation except for clouds and water. Simple things it's still unable to do. The thing I love it the most for is music generation. I made a fake jazz band, and used AI to create the music and images, generated an album of material, create an Instagram and bandcamp and then submitted it as an entry to a jazz festival. Just to see if the festival took it on
Thanks for this brilliant video. The „submerged“ design is a really cool idea, but it is not really submerged is it? It is just an optical illusion created by the sloping pathway? And the water is taken from the lake, so it only costs electricity (maybe there could be solar panels on the different pavilions) ? For a moment I thought you actually planned to submerge a part, it would be very cool to have an underwater (inside the aquarium) view, but with the latest catastrophe of a gigantic aquarium collapsing in a hotel space I think insurance companies might be skeptical. Also you made this design about the „chef being on the center stage“ and that is indeed something that Ramsey might like. The other design is pretty generic, maybe the AI did not consider or did not know much about Mr Ramseys personality? 😂 When I was working in game development in Japan, I had an Art Director who had a brilliant but very distinct style that was really hard to copy for the other designers and a director who was super difficult to work with and only accepted stuff the Art Director (actually his younger brother) made. We had to invest a lot of energy to match our designs to the Art directors distinct style, because he simply could not design every little piece of the game himself. I think with the new AI tools it would be possible to maintain autonomy and ideas and still match a super distinct style to maintain artistic coherence.
The AI just made a lodge on a lake. It was uninspired. What architectural concepts and techniques did it even employ? I'm pretty sure the three of you could have made a dining room with windows. AI lost and by a lot
I have a suggestion for one of your future videos. Recently I have been seeing on my feed about a planet called coruscant in the Star Wars universe and it’s really interesting. It a planet Thats entirely a city with a very long history and lore that goes with it.
wow Dami! I remember how passionate you were during our architecture schooling. I can't believe what you've been upto since - so proud!!!!! all the love
With Stable Diffusion you can always try using Control Net for a lot more precise control, something like segmentation would help a lot since you can specify through pre-established colors which part of the drawing is wall and which is window or water .. each object or material has a specific color used by all segmentation AI models (even before SD was a thing, you can find these color coded lists of objects/materials online easily). Control Net can utilize this segmentation color coding to control the outputs, you just have to input into Control Net a version of your initial image/sketch that has each part painted with the right color (an image of a unrendered 3D model will work too as long as the segmentation colors are accurate), hope that helps.
I am so happy I found this channel, this is so fun. Idk how the algorithm sent me here but I am so happy it did. keep making fun content. Plus as a game artist I am OBSESSED with yall's designs!!
What I really like about these videos is the way they start out with architecture (interesting in itself) and then broaden out into much more general social questions. Always thought provoking… thanks again and keep up the good work!
I like finding the bullshit.
Netflix needs to grab Dami and team for a series
I’d watch that
She and her team with every video give of that Fry Meme feeling 'Shut Up And Take My Money!'
Netflix doesn't pay their people either. We need to pay her directly through Patreon and let her keep doing her thing. Being on Netflix doesn't help anyone with anything.
Netflix 😂🤮 Isn't it being cancelled? They're money grabbers too.
she can be in black mirror season 7🙃🙃
It’s funny how certain content creators can make subjects you aren’t even interested in interesting and entertaining and engaging. I don’t care about architecture. I like Dami.
While I *am* interested in architecture I must confess the first thing that drew me to this channel is the cute way Dami moves her mouth when speaking. Her right and left sides are... asymmetrical? for want of a better word.
@@ZimaCyberia Nice virtue signal bullying
@@ZimaCyberia parasocial creeps? All I said was I liked her
@@ZimaCyberia Yeah, calling out virtue signalling is also virtue signalling.
Nothing wrong with appreciating beauty in all things. That said, this channel definitely helped see architecture in a more meaningful light.
The Ai design was very nice but like something we’ve seen before. Your design looked completely original!
You mean the design that also used AI to render?
@@kt-9009the basic design was rendered before ai. AI only added details, i think
The submersion aspect didn't take into account a rising water level, which is critical.
@@5Gburn also humidity and mosquitos...
@@5Gburn😅 what level is not like it will ever rain or something 😂😂😂 can you imagine how cold humid and miserable you’ll be there. The cold would creep up from your feet.
Professionals just loose commun sense the moment they get the degree.
I loved the waterfalls and the water reflections in the 'Human' design. I've experienced some stunning architecture here in Japan with features like these. I wonder what actually living with such beautiful features would be like. Would I grow accustomed to them and stop noticing, or would they continue to fill me with awe and joy? On the subject of AI, it's wonderful, and so useful. I use it every day for work and fun. And thank you, Dami, for yet another interesting and thought-provoking video!
They take the time to point out the issues with the AI design and completely skip the massive issues with the Human design. Semi submerged in a lake with variable water level? extensive water curtains that would shut down the restaurant in the slightest wind? no problem.
I went to architecture school and now code Ai. The hard part of this is lens. Ai is trained to give the most probable response, meaning that its giving you what it has seen the majority want from that prompt. Where in architecture school we are taught to make the big or drastic moves in design. So you end up with what in Machine Learning is known as overfitting where the human design is geared toward the small group of designers where the Ai is choosing something more generic. The same goes with the renderings where the stable diffusion is trained to create edge models and then transition them in a way to be appealing to the eye, where as the human renderings are focused on the important features in the designers heads not necessarily to a general audience.
I also did architecture and interested in coding AI. Could we link up?
I would definitely like to see an AI challenge that focuses less on the renderings and concept, but instead focuses more on the layout and design details. As a potential home owner, I'm not going to be buying a rendering, but a home. Voting on images without the rest of the information is like picking a color pallet without any context regarding what it will be used for, it might look pretty or even make me feel a certain way, but it doesn't have any practical use until the rest of the context is added.
Yeah there is no meaning behind the content it creates, it's all just a facade.
For your purposes, it wouldn't be all that useful. You want a guided design that factors in cost and efficiency and usability, something AI has no thought of. Like when you see those AI designed rocket engines, they aren't actually better. They merely try to use the least amount of material while keeping a similar or greater structural strength, but may not actually achieve the same structure strength, and don't actually understand the concept of how things like temperature and pressure could affect those materials. And they don't even actually factor in performance either, or things like repairability, longevity, manufacturing issues, etc.
All AI can do for you is give you something neat to look at, that an architect could then take and turn into reality, and decide what's possible or not, or up to code or not. That can still be very useful, as usable creativity can take a long time. AI can mash things together in a way you might have never thought of. AI can generate floor plans, but the best process would probably be to create floor plans into a simple 3D model with walls and rooms, and then have the AI to render it with possibilities on everything from wall color to baseboards to where windows could be and what type, etc.
Of course you could have AI create a render, give it to an architect, and tell them to make it as close to that as possible, and for most cases that would probably be good enough as long as you had enough coherent detailed renders, it wouldn't be too difficult to figure out from there.
The fact that the renders didn't even match the plans the Ai created...they were just pretty images and videos of buildings completely unrelated to what was being put forward by the Ai says everything. The fact the discord didn't notice this makes me question lots as well! For reference I examine home plans every day in my job, even with human designers there's some terrible mess ups so it does go both ways lol.
@@QuinchGaming You can create images that match the floor plan perfectly, they just didn't use the AI properly and didn't realize there are common tools to do that with. So it's not an AI deficiency, it's a lack of skill problem. They really went into this like a person who has just used AI for the first time.
@@QuinchGaming Discord wasn't given any context either. It was a simple A B choice between two images or two text blocks. I'm actually confused about where the data for the category ratings they show in the video came from.
I haven't even finished this yet, but can I just say this is one of the most creative and high quality channels on this platform 🙌🏻 I'm always excited to see a post!!
That's an understatement! The production quality of this channel is off the charts!
Hell yeah!! When I see a new post. I say to myself, today is going to be a good day.
Seems like something a bot would say.
@@EscapeePrisoner they everywhere. Who knows, maybe you too a bot. Oh shi.. even me.
I agree. How much I love Dami been the split light. She deserves to be queen of all youtube because of how the creates content in a unique way of engaging and entertaining the audience with anime related and other stuff. Love the unexpected. 🥰😎
Even though AI images were much better in terms of colours etc, I can see that human design was special.
AI have the tendancy to generalize designs and ideas while humans can be creative and combine different elements.
Also, there are details and constrains which are obvious to humans like, asking yourself always "how to build this."
Meanwhile AI can give you plans without doors or literally floating roofs.
Well, the problem is always the industry. The constant battle to seek optimization will eventually force many designers to get kicked out. Because, corporations can pay one guy with 5-6 AI tools instead of 6-7 designers/artists/architects/engineers. The money, costs, and the ease of control over an individual within the competing small market is more appealing.
That is the scary part. And isn't mentioned enough I believe.
I don't understand that blowout vote, which is why I do not believe in focus groups nor judging like this. That MidJourney forest minimalist glass structure I have prompted myself on many occasions. The human proposal had experiential flow, attention to detail on sight lines, plus it had that "out of the box" ideation that humans do so well. I even find ChatGPT to sound a bit "see spot run." There's little that is poetic or savory within. I use about 5 AI platforms AS TOOLS, and they work great as such.... so I agree with your final conclusion. Humans still have to drive the creative; we are blessed with ego, doubt, uncertainty, emotion and ambition. Also, evil AI Dami is... ya know... great episode!
I came to the same conclusion. I liked the final product produced by the human architects... FOR Gordon Ramsey. Some comments -- and the AI -- seem to forget who the client was. Also, I'd like to see the return of evil AI Dami... let's just call her Dark Dami. 10:48
Best HP commercial, ever
Do Architects consider the burdens of Maintainance of the design? Accessibility, cost, life time etc!
A design could be impressive to experience when everything, the ecosystem surrounding it, is “static” or perfect. But materials age, corrode, break, and therefore needs to be repaired or maintained. That’s when the real cost of a design shows itself.
Impressive videos as always.
Guess this separates the okay architect from a really good one.
Well, isn't that the work of the engineers at that point?
@@DrakeyStarly When it becomes the work of the engineers everyone gets sour towards each other. Engineers are frustrated by unrealistic, expensive, or over budget ideas while the architect gets frustrated by a bunch of ideas getting shut down. Architects should really take estimating classes and value that stuff. Good ones do. Because when they don't, the whole team just gets in a bad mood
@captainreza1 I totally agree about considering the burdens of maintenance. Underwater/underground living spaces mean something different to anyone who's ever had a leaky or damp basement.
Nope!
I'm not an architect but a concept artist working in game dev for the past 10+ years.
For me, AI, especially image generators are two things
1) a faster tool than google, when I'm looking for either foundation to photobashing or a great tool for mood board.
2) a FANTASTIC filter when it comes to telling which people actually understand that AI is a tool with very limited and which people belive it to be a holy grail that will replace us all (so pretty much people who have no clue how machine learning works;P)
In first case - AI is proving to be great at being sort of "porsonal assistant" that can help me speed up my drawing process but also a tool I need to be checking a lot due to mistakes it can make and lack of efficienty. Just beccause it can generate the image fast doesn't mean it's usefull.
In 2nd case... Well it helped me filter my "friends" list on linkedin when I deleted a lot of cluless people who are jumping on AI bandwagon just like they did with crypto and NFTs :D
Awesome video as always. I liked the second concept personally. The "S-bend" over the water and into the forest with the living quarter nestled into the shoreline was an super interesting concept with a lot of untapped potential. You didnt show the thought process behind that design, but I have some ideas that may flesh that concept out a bit more. I think reversing the hook and making the Island a commonroom with a hearth it makes better use of the vista of the lake while creating a closer knit social space. By placing an open concept kitchen between the two dinning areas I think you may you may still achieve the desired connection to the food. The aroma of cooking would flow through the whole building, calling people to dinner before meal times, building anticipation and drawing in people to observe the creation process. The open concept kitchen would also allow guests to interact with the people curating the meals, increasing the intimacy of the experience. The back wall of the kitchen space could be half wall/half windows to cloister the area and give you a wet wall for a hand washing station and a counter with dumb waiters (the tops of the dumb waiters would sit flush to the counter until needed when it would raise up out of the counter, the section of counter top on the dumb waiter would rest on top of it instead of being attach so when it was lowered the counter space would not be lost and prevent objects being knocked down an open hole and facilitate removal for easy cleaning) to remove dirty dishes or bring up supplies unobtrusively from a lower level that had exterior access. The lower level could be accessed along the same back wall via a spiral stair that is compact, but comfortably wide enough to allow two people pass with empty arms (1.5 m wide?) without pushing past each other. Along with the ground access for supplies the lower level of the kitchen would have the dish washing area, refridgeration, dry storge and washroom facilities for staff. It may somewhat ground the appearance of the floating architecture concept, but having it near the apex of the hook in front of the treeline would allow you to obscure it with greenery. Blending it in nicely with its surroundings.
Just some thoughts. The design was amazing as shown. Keep up the fantastic work.
Also AI is a useful tool, but is definitely a double edged sword with the potential to be as ruinous as a nuclear device.
of course its the best one... they went with the worst.. thats what people with egos do. they dont want to hurt anyones feelings. should of incorporated the water features into the curved design. they were thinking two dimensionally... instead of three.
Excited to be part of the battle!💪
Love this! You should make it a running series. Honestly I think you guys kicked AI circuits with that retreat
Now this... This Is pure entertainment.
It's so refreshing, I love it!
Then again, I found interesting how the AI designs were... Something like I saw before, somewhere. It was beautiful, but non-imaginative.
But... *"The Path"* really took my mind away. Is it true that AI can do amazing things, but it's far for being perfect. It still requires... More. It needs more soul, more passion, being more "human" if it does makes any sense.
For me, humans actually won this.
Why? Because I don't give a crap about the renders, but the ultimate result, the "pure" creation and it's process.
From heart, I believe both we can work together. _"Help me, help you"_
...Oh, and I love the theme of this video. The "Man vs. Machine" really got me engaged. Kudos to Dami and her team for such an amazing video!
I always find it fascinating to see how individuals interpret nebulous concepts and bring them into reality. It would be amazing to hear what led the team to choosing what it did with regards to the final "sunken" design. I tend to think of "floating" as soft, rounded, and organic, which seems far from the angular, sharp design chosen. Neither view is correct, of course. I am fascinated by the reasons behind why some people interpret these ideas one way, and others another.
The one thing I absolutely love about the chosen design is the waterfall hallway, aligned to the setting sun. This is an absolutely stunning concept that I hope exists somewhere in the real world!
I for one would like to remind our new AI overlords that as a prominent public figure, Dami can be useful in rounding up all of the other humans to work in their lithium mines.
Firstly, as an engineer, I hate architects very much. Secondly, this channel and this channel alone gets a pass because it’s actually awesome. Thirdly, I hate artificial image generation far more than architects, so I’m happy to root for the architects, even just this once.
you share the same vision with the programmers that hate web designers hehe
I'm a 3D Artist and architect study. I can also attest: Architectures are all CRAZY. xD
Weak mindset
Dami, can you please release merch with the iconic pic of you pointing at something that you usually use in the thumbnails? Love you and your channel, you're the best channel in TH-cam.
Good idea!! 😆
Ooo!! You guys should do a challenge where you create an architectural design that hilights the aging of the building/materials over time. Like each part of the house/property is a different stage in its timeline....but still beautiful.
Ex: Like the front entry way is new, but as you go down the hallway, the wooden floors and walls are more worn, which leads you to the living room that's 10 years old...and the kitchen is 20 years old.....
But highlighting the beauty of the aging materials, and how they refract light differently (for windows) or feels different with age.
Idk if any of that made sense. But I just thought it'd be a cool thought experiment!
I get the feeling that if you closed the vote non-discord people and instead went with builders, contractors, designers, artists, modelers, and architects and not just fans of the channel on a popular chat app, you would get different results.
Right?! From an engineering standpoint, these are all nightmares, and for minimal environmental impact, even harder!
Dami: "Oh, you're a villain, alright. Just not a super one."
AI Dami: "Yeah? What's the difference?"
Dami: " *PRESENTATION!* " 😈
Nice megamind refference
As a sci-fi fan, I used to wonder what it would be like to have a literal world of information and analysis available by merely summoning it, and here we are, in its rapidly developing nascence. And the creative aspect of AI is fabulous as well, and is already creating wonders. 'Actual' AI scares the hell out of me, because a self-recognizing program programmed by humans is a frightening thought--and I still hope I live long enough to see that. But I'm really enjoying the current progression...
As someone who lives in a stormy area, that semi-submerged design gave me a whole lot of "nope" energy just on a matter of practicality. Looked like a little bit of rain and wind would quickly flood the place.
Some of the AI renders meanwhile look like they at least give a few feet of clearance above water (but still probably going to get flooded all to hell during storm season with how low and close to the water it is).
In addition to Architects, you should also invite an Engineer to assess the structural viability.
Structural engineers make it possible!
I literally just cracked a joke from a structural engineering prospective. 🤣🤣
I really don’t understand how people preferred the Ai photos, not only were yours more original, many of the Ai generated buildings made very little sense. They had stairs going directly into the lake from bedrooms with no walls, there was also the room that was just a bunch of cushions thrown about, and it struggled rendering the chairs in the dining room. If I hadn’t been told it was Ai I think I could still confidently say that most of the Ai designs didn’t look right. The rooms didn’t go together, and especially when you showed the floor plans, no part of them made any sense. I just don’t understand how someone could pick them over the human design, even if they were a bit rough, it’s still objectively the cooler concept. The Ai didn’t follow the prompt either, ‘Airy floating escape’ and it was legit just a glass cabin with no kitchen for the client. The human design made sure to include both and was a cohesive idea that took all parts of the challenge into account.
I agree. I see this too late, but In also do not use Discord or want to jump to a different platform to vote.
Are you kidding? The " submerged" design also lacked a lot of details and looked like an unfinished imaginary project.
@@enadegheeghaghe6369 that’s literally what it is. They admit they hadn’t used some of these modeling applications before, this is the rough draft. And it’s still better than the clunky nonsense the ai spat out. Why are you defending AI art to begin with? It’s not like there was any actual feeling or work behind it. It took a max of 5 minutes to write the prompts, and seconds for the AI to spit out some half baked cabin in the woods.
@@christophergallagher4921 where exactly did I defend AI art? I said nothing about the AI art. Just pointed out that the voters probably weren't that impressed by the unfinished look of the project the humans put out.
But even if I did defend AI art, so what? Are you one of those people who insists we must all automatically hate anything created by AI? Cause that is a ridiculous stance.
The AI product was more than just a simple "cabin in the woods". You only use such derogatory language because you hate AI in general. Let's be honest, there is no AI created design that you would ever like cause you hate AI in first place. If the AI had created the submerged building design, you would have ridiculed it.
Also something being done fast doesn't mean it's always going to be bad. Something that took a long time to create isn't necessarily going to be good either. I might take months or years to create a piece of art, it's still going to be rubbish if I am not a good artist
@ firstly, I can admit when I am wrong. I apologize. You are right in saying you never defended the art and my hatred of ai art clouded my judgement of the incomplete work of the humans. I still stand by the fact that the human art was (in my opinion) better than the AI art only because all of the elements were cohesive and made sense together. I can see your point though. Had the humans piece been done by AI I probably would have had similar issues with the design. I do personally have a vendetta against Ai though, I believe it steals jobs and just gives corporations another means of cutting cost and being lazy. The work by the humans can be defended by the fact that they were not used to the software they were using, but the design was still lacking.
I think the humans design was still more original however. The AI design was just a cabin. The floor plans made no sense, and the outside shots had elements that were just slapped on. I do see your POV, and I respect that AI can be used in specific circumstances, but this isn’t one of them. There were rooms with no walls that had stairs going directly into the water, the renderings of individual rooms had design elements that were nonsense. But if you were using it as a rough draft, you could still get a general idea of what you wanted. I apologize for getting heated.
Really good point on how the tools shape design btw! I have the exact same feelings about Revit - while it's a great program, I still think it's best to start your design in a more freeflowing environment like Sketchup/Rhino/a piece of paper so your ideas can take whatever direction they choose, and _then_ move over to Revit for renders. Because if you start out in Revit, while the process might be more streamlined, like you mentioned you'll subsconsciously start designing _for_ Revit with boxier forms just to make your life easier.
That's how I feel with revit too. It's too restrained if you just started out for concept. It should probably be use for construction and coordination on big projects once the overall concept has been determined.
i think if you do a round three maybe you can approach where you pass it off to a firm and have them decide which one they would sign up to build. because looking at your renders alone i get a sense for space and scale and how things are connected, where as the ai images feel like your building a lakeside condominium and these are looks at the different models in the catalogue. i mean one image is a floating house, one is on stilts, all the rooms are at water level yet it’s also 2 stories. it has all the consistency of me trying to draw anything anatomical
Great video Dami! We are happy to be on the human side, helping architects to render quickly :D
i would have voted for the 'Loop' design. it looked awesome.
Same
5:25 that "cazzo" was from the deepest part of the soul 🤣
TIL some essential Italian
ideas like submerged spaces seem really interesting, but, I wonder who cleans that glass of all the algae buildup? How much maintenance time goes into that? If the location climate has wide seasonal temperature variations, then how does thermal expansion and contraction effect the barrier seals between the water on the outside and the dry, submerged areas?
I think about about back-end concerns like this when I see really cool design concepts. I think about walkway flow movement from one space to another, and how many different ways any one location can be arrived at from another. Where's all the plumbing go, and all the other dirty stuff, like environmental insulation, and environmental control, as well as efficiencies involved in the energy footprint?
How locked into a singular design will the end product be, and how flexible/adaptable would it be to remodeling/renovation in part or whole as the tastes of the owner and/or potential future markets change?
I think I would make one of the worst clients because I would be constantly picking at things and asking questions like these.
Gonna be brutally honest, the fact that you lost is more than anything an indictment of the taste of the people on your Discord. The AI generated designs were inferior in basically every way if you look at them for more than 3 seconds. Is AI impressive? Of course. However my main takeaway from witnessing the reaction to generated images has been that visual literacy is in dire straits.
The AI generated design was neat but boring, when comparing to the human team's one.
Makes my day when a full featured @DamiLee YT video pops up in my feed, absolutely love the context and cinematography. As a native NorCal guy that’s very familiar with the area, I’d love to see the Orinda project.
I am an aerospace engineer. I think my work is interesting and fun. But I think it would be impossible to create a video to communicate that as well as Dami does for architecture. She’s genius.
It’s great at resampling training data. It doesn’t think through anything, it’s the ultimate illusionist. Can be useful to pre-visualize “ideas” clients make up as they go. In that use case, it could save a lot of frustration, as long as you don’t get paid for iterating the old fashioned way.
Way to perfectly display the distinction between human and artificial intelligence in design 😊 very cute and funny too😂
Love how informative and well put together your videos are. You and your team work well together!
Ask the AI to make a parts list, find contractors and make a budget for these projects.
I mean, ideas, layouts and renderings are a dime a dozen.
I'm 3 minutes in and can't believe the production quality and the amount of work you guys put in. Bravo
Thank you for another great video. I work daily with different AI tools in both business and creative. You hit on a key issue. If you have a concept that isn't, well, a mainstream thing, then they don't have any examples the model has learned from to draw upon.
Pretty much
This video was excellent in its concept and execution. The tale your are telling although quite sad in its outcome, says something profound about an era where technology has come to blend with the very idea of sci fi. I realize you are working with quite the team, but the synergy here is palpable so hat's off to you all.
Even with a modulated voice, the presenters cadence and tonality is easily detectable...
Hi Damilee, I love your thought-provoking productions. I have never replied to your messages before.
Damilee, the walkway with water poring over the sides was awesome. Progressing through the walls of water on both sides provides an experience of leaving one's frenetic life to emerge into a relaxing vacation, the imagery of parting of the Red Sea motif. Brilliant! Also, the sunken dining room in the lake was excellent.
TLDR.
It should be easy to outdo an AI. I do it every day. AI lacks the human touch, soul, and desire. It can only work with humans to create what they want. If you ask it to do something vague, it can only produce what is statistically the best concept based on its data and programming. But it does not understand what a good or bad experience feels like.
To illustrate this point, imagine you have an AI-driven car. It possesses all road, weather, and traffic knowledge. It can take you anywhere in the world more efficiently and safely than you can drive yourself. Now, we will park the car in the driveway. What will it do? Will it drive away? No, it will sit there forever because it does not "desire" to go anywhere. If we programmed it to drive all the time, it would leave and never return.
If you instruct an AI car to create a generic trip, it will fail every time. It doesn't know what you like and cannot experience pleasure or displeasure. It will create a trip based on statistical analyses of what most people have done. It does this based on its data, not on the subjective human experience and feelings. However, if you guide an AI car to create the perfect trip, it can do that better than a human can. But it's important to remember that AI can only help us get what we want because humans can desire pleasure and avoid discomfort.
AI-based architecture will analyze modern building structures and designs to ensure they comply with modern economics, regulations, and lifestyles. It will design the most common square structures of concrete, steel, glass, cosmetics, etc. Therefore, the AI's impressions of what people want in a retreat are predictably based on averages. But we, as humans, bring the element of surprise, the unexpected, the unique, to the table.
An AI does not know what it feels like to have a retreat experience. To exchange the feeling of the frustrating modern life surrounded by sharp-edged square concrete, steel, and glass boxes for something organic, novel, or subjectively pleasurable. Like a geodesic dome tent looking over the Swedish Alps, a hut on a Caribbean beach, a wood A-frame cabin surrounded by a dense forest, a hobbit home in a hill, a teepee in an aspen grove, or a star viewing deck atop a round tower, a modern cave, or a treehouse!
But Damilee, you know what that feels like. You could have chosen a retreat 'experience' and outshone those soulless AI bots. But you went all in with the vague nouveau architectural style, the AI's sweet spot; of course, they excelled in that area.
The AI offers the illusion of opulent serenity, using an open scenic landscape, wood veneer, large open windows, and simplistic causal furnishings to mask its rigid, antiseptic, industrial architecture. What is left if you remove the wide-open landscape and wood veneer, have no wall-sized windows, and remove the Bohemian furniture? A box? A box with large communal rooms with bored people hanging out? The AI resort is the very thing people are trying to get away from.
Is architecture simply aesthetics, or is it an experience? If it is aesthetics, the AI will always win; if it is an experience, AIs are clueless.
So much production went into this video, man. Props to you!
I can tell y'all had fun making this video.
this was not quite fair because AI renders and videos are results of lerning from artists and they nkow how to make liting an texture good , while your renders are based on existing 3d models with less focus on it looking like art. I guess the best would be to compere just projects drown by pencils on drafts and same style drowing for AI. this will be a fair comparison of architect skills: desine, shape, creativity.
Exactly, the public was not reacting on the design, but on the image. Completely different things. I feel the ai stuff was generic.
It’s going to be rocky for creatives across sectors. I think we all thought AI would take care of the tedious, undesirable jobs in life we all hate doing, but instead it found its best use-cases in the prestige, white collar jobs we all vie for already. I know someone will chime in with, “Yeah but it’s just a tool and we have to adapt and we’ll find new ways,” and all that, but the sober objective truth is there is no outcome in which AI doesn’t kill off a MASSIVE amount of human jobs - especially in the creative and knowledge-based sectors.
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Super inspirational and quite intelligent on how you have kept AI in the 'Clevertools' category and not in the 'Overlords' just yet... Seriously I do enjoy that ability for architects and I hope engineers and quantity surveyors to be able to bring projects together on budget and avoid the many pitfalls that happen in building projects through the judicious use of these tools which can communicate among each other seamlessly without 'Ego'. From a country that will soon open the world's most expensive hospital per bed -- Yeah that's embarrassing -- here';s hoping this works out.
I really enjoyed this video. But if I may. With option three, I immediately thought of the Death Star trench followed by the Viet Nam Memorial. The lower level quarters did not feel warm and inviting at all. Option one - not more cantilever, please. Fallingwater anyone? I liked option two because it had an organic feel, somewhere between forest and food, lol. The AI floating solution nailed the fundamentals of the design request beautifully. You guys do such a great job, so informative and fun.
Yeah i loved the concept conceptualized by the AI but that's the point. The rapid iterations and easier collaboration where everyone is on the same page gets you 80% plus to a product that's better than without AI ever could be. But a person still needs to go thru to add doors, remove extra fingers, and make sure the project is actually viable.
Architecture is a branch of entertainment! You guys are having way too much fun.
Never forget the human touch
18:10 "Let me help you help me help you."
Virtuous cycle. It's not safe enough yet that we could trust-fall into its open arms, but I don't even think that it _wants_ that at this time. For now, _Teamwork makes the dream work._
_Personally,_ I chose Team Human for the win on this one. I love the airy and watery design, for starters, and I appreciated that you guys actually had a coherent floorplan.
At first, I was a bit hesitant about your video during the opening minutes, but knowing the quality of work you and your team consistently deliver, I kept watching. I’m glad I did, because you absolutely nailed it with this one. The stunning visuals, paired with a compelling and relatable narrative, made the video truly inspiring.
Tbh I think the AI's design came out a bit generic, your own was so much more intriguing and personal. Btw I 100% agree, AI is such a powerful tool to expand the possibilities of a good designer and actually of many, many conceptual works
Hello, I’m a software developer, and I think AI (in my case) is amazing in how it can help solve simple problems or predict what I’m about to code just by writing a single line. However, sometimes it struggles to properly solve mathematical equations (such as algorithm speeds in worst-case, average-case, and best-case scenarios), and I believe AI occasionally lacks coherence with real-life scenarios.
Imo, AI is better suited for the more mundane works like sorting, tracking info or maybe generate code based on prompt. As at the end of the day, AI are still codes and algorithm so it can't think too logical and realistically.
AI lacks coherence with real-life scenarios, just like me.
This was such a beautiful example of how AI works as well as how the creative mind works. As a creative I've often been asked if I am not afraid AI would steal my job, the answer is no. While AI can in fact take prompts and create stunning visuals and wax poetic using automated response tools, it is still just that, a tool. The biggest room is the room for improvement, our imagination is endless, there is nothing AI can take out of our minds unless we give it. We just have to see AI as it is, a tool for us to use to take our imagination to the next level
Oof, the AI-generated concept is so generic. I guess the pictures are pretty, but...pretty doesn't mean interesting. A town's worth of energy & water used to create something I've seen a hundred times? I'm not seeing the value.
That's exactly why AI shouldn't be used for creativity. The use cases she gave at the end are much better than trying to replace human ingenuity with AI copies.
It's weird that people like it though. People voted for it even though the AI project was less interesting and at same time not technically correct. I think this is why AI is kind of dangerous - you might think something is easy, when in fact there are lots of hidden errors, errors your manager might not see...
I like the attention to lighting in some of the spaces. Some beautiful reflections off the water
Crazy AI looming! 😅
My favorite moment of the month 💛💛💛
This video should be in Netflix
The thing that worries me about AI is that people will start to rely on it to much on it, and by extension feeding it more AI generated content, leading to the AI eventually only being able to learn from whatever it itself is outputting, which will render it useless and is, as a product creatively inept. So in other words it’s not AI that worries me but it’s the human drive toward finding shortcuts.
tbh the design made by humans was like way more original than whatever the ai came up with. yeah the ai stuff looked pretty and such but it was kinda boring.
The ai only put what humans made together, what an anomaly
Are you not entertained., I’ve only just discovered Dami’s videos and have been on a bender.’ As a carpenter/craftsman I really enjoy the design process and humour , please keep up the great work Dami and crew. Wishing you all great success. Cheers 🙏🏡🍀❤️
The AI design looked like the generic slop you see all over google search results now, the human design was 1000x more interesting
In the end, AIs presentation looks nice, but it's nothing surprising. "The Path" is about surprising the visitors. AI can't really do that. I think AI could very well be a good start for a lakehouse. But for a retreat like this? It will just end up looking like every other place.
I still think your human proposal was much better, the other looked like a mashup of cliches... I get the point that the mashup of cliches might be what most humans like 😅
In any case, your thoughts on the whole experiment where the most interesting part of the video.
I can't believe I'm just now finding your channel! Your insights are helping me as I write my screenplays, making me consider the architecture in certain scenes and how that will affect the beats and outcome of the scene. You've got a new subscriber!
Smart and cute, it should be illegal.
DamiLee, can you please do an episode on or include the city of Midgar from the game Final Fantasy 7 in a video please?
Been working in engineering for almost 30 years. The prospect of not having to deal with human architects does have a certain appeal, has to be said. 🙂
Great video as ever.
you where reading my mind
Like when the massive cantilever building was suggested 😂
@@LashanR I was more worried of the semi sumerged desing with fake waterfall that will become filled with moss and stop working in a month, but the cantileveler at least that is kind of doable, building a half a bridge in place with prestressed cables and need another house just as counterweight.
I mean sure but do you want to buid AI generated mess on real world too which has no real knowledge or code. I think you would have more problem unless someone has to fix them. Imagine a client didn't hire Architect and generate everything buy themselves and give you the contractor ti build it as exact as you can. You still gonna need to fix alot.
Personally, the waterfalls and path and half submerged dining rooms were a bit "much" for me. The more basic 'lodge' is closer to my idea of a retreat. In my opinion, the humans went a bridge too far and designed something more suitable for a memorial or a museum.
On the other hand, _doors are awesome.
Love your channel anyway, Dami. You rock.
I love the nature documentary segment, I really wish there was an AI David Attenborough cameo to narrate it😂
Great creativity from a very creative team !! Gracias
You can never be replaced, Dami! Just YOU, specifically. Everyone else, I don't mind if they are or not.
The production value on these videos is insane! This has become my favorite channel on TH-cam and I knew next to nothing about architecture before! 👍 👏 🥇
Humans made the most creative/interesting design. The AI, the house I'd like to live in.
The AI House concept doesn't look all that liveable though.
I just started architecture school and looking forward to every challenge ahead. Hope everything goes very smoothly for me and every new student like me.
Also wanted to say, ever since I discovered this channel the production level has improved significantly
the human team's design was 1 billion times better than the AI.
Very engaging video. Clear challenge highlighting the strengths of each “team.” Appreciate whenever King Ludd is out in his place.
Where AI falls apart (and I think this particular kind of AI will continue to be pretty useless) is in details. The floorplan was a good example, or the renders that don't match. Everything these programs make is good until you look closely.
So look closely.
This should definitely have more views, given the production quality. Loving this!
AI video looks so uncanny. Not sure if it's the way they handle the keyframes or what, but it looks too fake, too smooth, and everything looks really bland. I much prefer the rough 3D classic look of architectural rendering techniques. Plus, nothing makes sense, as DamiLee explained at the end of the video.
Not to sound rude, but I believe the vote the Discord community made is meaningless. They're just looking at pretty pictures and clicking a button. I don't see how the AI renderings are better in any real context.
Yes, there should definitely be a new Discord for people in the field.
As long as we can put our big egos aside and collaborate,
we’d always vote for Team Human, if there's one thing our egos can agree on!
It looks fake because it's not transitioning from frame to frame of recorded or generated motion, it's transforming the image on the fly.
Think of a jelly creature faking walking by transforming to simulate actual movement.
Interesting video, resonates a lot with a recent New Yorker article on how writers are using AI tools as an idea generator, and that it is, like tools such as word processors before it, shaping the way writing is done. But, in the end, a good end product still takes a deep level of human thought and sweat to burst forth
AI will never replace human creativity
I feel like Dami's been releasing bangers recently, and this show format just elevates the visual presentation and fun!
Awesome video. The key take away is the progress AI has made, in all manner of GAI, and how fast it continues to improve. I've been watching it for almost 10 years and it is mind-boggling. About six years ago, I paid tens of thousands of dollars to some developers to build a mobile game I'd created. While a solid concept, It failed and I learned what I needed to do to fix it. Problem was, I had no more money to put into development and marketing. Fast forward to a few months ago, I used an AI chatbot to code a new version of the game. Over the course of a few days of a 1-2 hour sessions, I had a functional game that mostly accomplished what I needed it to do. And it cost me $20. AI will be a tool that rapidly accellerates creativity, business and progress. Will it disrupt industires and jobs, certainly. But creatives who embrace these tools to enhance and expand their abilities will find success.
I don't really have an opinion on the AI or not question, but I am glad you didn't choose the "overlook" or "loop" designs to move forward with. As an introvert, the "overlook" had me thinking "I would never visit there, because I don't want people walking overhead when I'm trying to just chill in my room." Maybe you can solve that problem - although after a decade of wear and tear, I doubt the room ceilings would still be soundproof - but I'd never find out, because I'd look at the layout and just "nope."
As someone with a lot of experience in customer service, I'd hate to work in the Loop because crowd movement would suck. Everyone would be stopping in the dining room over the water, and it would be overcrowded. No-one would walk to the forest one, and it would be empty and overstaffed - but you wouldn't want to risk removing staff because the instant you did that, everyone would decide to go there instead. Eventually someone would figure out the shortcut to the kitchen area and you'd have guests cutting into service areas. And so, again, I'd look at that floorplan, decide the experience would be a zoo, and go spend my retreat somewhere else.
I feel the version you did choose was the best balance between "cool" and "usable."
So I'm curious what led all y'all to make that choice.
I use AI every single day. But I find it has more accuracy on STEM tasks than creative/ cultural tasks. I tend to use it for tasks that are monotonous or to create templates that I can further develop. I still receive an enormous amount of "hallucinations" so I don't trust it to give me information. Even historical dates or names of people or projects. I still end up researching because it's so often wrong. I find it better suited to develop ideas because it gives you a sense of objectivity. However when I read can the chat history the real progress is coming from me, but AI helps me see through another perspective. I've completely lost faith in it's capability for image generation except for clouds and water. Simple things it's still unable to do. The thing I love it the most for is music generation. I made a fake jazz band, and used AI to create the music and images, generated an album of material, create an Instagram and bandcamp and then submitted it as an entry to a jazz festival. Just to see if the festival took it on
Thanks for this brilliant video. The „submerged“ design is a really cool idea, but it is not really submerged is it? It is just an optical illusion created by the sloping pathway? And the water is taken from the lake, so it only costs electricity (maybe there could be solar panels on the different pavilions) ? For a moment I thought you actually planned to submerge a part, it would be very cool to have an underwater (inside the aquarium) view, but with the latest catastrophe of a gigantic aquarium collapsing in a hotel space I think insurance companies might be skeptical. Also you made this design about the „chef being on the center stage“ and that is indeed something that Ramsey might like. The other design is pretty generic, maybe the AI did not consider or did not know much about Mr Ramseys personality? 😂
When I was working in game development in Japan, I had an Art Director who had a brilliant but very distinct style that was really hard to copy for the other designers and a director who was super difficult to work with and only accepted stuff the Art Director (actually his younger brother) made. We had to invest a lot of energy to match our designs to the Art directors distinct style, because he simply could not design every little piece of the game himself. I think with the new AI tools it would be possible to maintain autonomy and ideas and still match a super distinct style to maintain artistic coherence.
The AI just made a lodge on a lake. It was uninspired. What architectural concepts and techniques did it even employ? I'm pretty sure the three of you could have made a dining room with windows. AI lost and by a lot
I have a suggestion for one of your future videos.
Recently I have been seeing on my feed about a planet called coruscant in the Star Wars universe and it’s really interesting. It a planet Thats entirely a city with a very long history and lore that goes with it.
16:22 I hate democracy now
wow Dami! I remember how passionate you were during our architecture schooling. I can't believe what you've been upto since - so proud!!!!! all the love
With Stable Diffusion you can always try using Control Net for a lot more precise control, something like segmentation would help a lot since you can specify through pre-established colors which part of the drawing is wall and which is window or water .. each object or material has a specific color used by all segmentation AI models (even before SD was a thing, you can find these color coded lists of objects/materials online easily).
Control Net can utilize this segmentation color coding to control the outputs, you just have to input into Control Net a version of your initial image/sketch that has each part painted with the right color (an image of a unrendered 3D model will work too as long as the segmentation colors are accurate), hope that helps.
I am so happy I found this channel, this is so fun. Idk how the algorithm sent me here but I am so happy it did. keep making fun content. Plus as a game artist I am OBSESSED with yall's designs!!