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@@ryanbauer8317 as a collector. Not investor, collector, I need no input from a TH-camr. I like hobby talk. Light hearted sports card talk. Geoff inserted himself into this hobby as some sort of big deal and influencer. In my circle this guy is a stain on the hobby. You can place some of the blame on this guy for $100 packs of cards.
@@ryanbauer8317Geoff is a big name in this hobby. He influences. For all the wrong reasons. He deals in big. Expensive. PSA10. Top 5 cards. Big boxes. Big packs. It’s takes the fun out of collecting. And he is the big fish. The other day my son’s friend was opening a pack of Pokémon. He bypassed the first few cards to get to the back of the pack for the holo’s and reverses. The base cards are just bulk. It’s that attitude that is going to ruin the hobby. And I put this guy front and center for this crap. I could go on and on with this clown.
@@MJS_whooowe all insert ourselves into the hobby.. just because you didn’t make a platform like he did doesn’t make his points any less important to the hobby than yours. It’s a good thing people like him are in it.
@@magicbanding1095yeah, that is the smart way to do it. Breaking just lets you roll the dice in getting a big time card of the players you want most, at a discount. I’m not saying breaking is smart. It’s a gamble and entertaining for some is all.
I don't collect anymore because the only cards worth value are rookies that have never thrown an NFL pass, taken an NBA on-court shot, or stood at the plate in the MLB. Unproven players whose cards are worth 1000% the value of people who are winning championships. And 90% of the time those cards are worth nothing in 3 years.
Yep. Topps Chrome used to be my favorite product. Now the only time I open it is when it comes in a subscription box or is on super sale. Prices for sports cards that are not "cardboard/card stock" are way overpriced. At least cardboard is a little affordable, but I find myself buying A LOT LESS of that as well...due to the price gouge of today. I turned to retail as a result of this, and even retail is putting less cards in boxes whilst charging more! I will not buy any retail chrome either. $40 for a blaster box = LOL!
I’ve never bought into a break in my life. The amount of sports card sealed wax and retail product I buy these days pales in comparison to the amount of singles and slabs I buy.
Geoff did a good job explaining the prices, including the balance between print runs, parallels, etc. what I think he missed is how Topps is eliminating products on the low-mid range. Just a few SKUs and then you’re into expensive breaker-heavy products.
280 boxes has to be a drop in the bucket. I bet print runs on most of these modern products are STUPID high. Probably similar, if not higher, than the junk wax print runs in the late 80's, early 90's......
You can do the math on print runs to determine what the print run is. Then see what a dent 40 cases may be etc. I’m sure someone out there has done it - Stryker used to
The prices of hobby style boxes are manipulated by the shops and breakers... select 2023 football international hobby jumps from 250$ to 500+ in 2 weeks wtf
This is spot on! Jeff didn't comment on it because doesn't cards HQ break? They have to find a better way otherwise it'll ruin the hobby by pricing the average consumer out. I just got back in the hobby this year and am already having second thoughts about staying in the hobby.
It's illegal gambling with minors. All breakers are the problem. I pay more because they run illegal operations. And yes everyone thinks they can create a new carnival game via trading cards. Look at fanatics live. Everyone talks about collecting and calling it a hobby while marketing vaults and consignment. The value will never be in the cards until the boxes go back to MSRP. They all get back door deals, the guys you are trying to credit for working at it. I remember when it was as simple as taking a picture of your store front and you could buy bulk from manufacturers. Now, it's required amounts of purchase and quotas for moving. It's not an industry promoting collecting or making it worthwhile. Add in all vintage graded is most likely juiced by thousands of juicers over decades.
Nothing is going change as long as people are buying them. It's flippers/breakers buying cards now. Dumbasses like me are screwed. I like pulling cool stuff from packs but I can't afford it so I have to switch to singles if I plan to continue in this hobby. I'm only 6 months in and I didn't know it was like this.
I collected from 1981 until like 1992 and on off a fee other times, but I got back into it back in 2018, and it's completely different than when I was younger.
I would go as far as create a product line that breakers are not allowed to open. I'm sure some would still do it on the secondary market but perhaps with the right marketing around it breakers would avoid breaking it becuse that allocation is meant for collectors. A sort of hobby wide policed effort to keep cool boxes in the hands of the small guys. Pipe dream I'm sure but it would be interesting to see if it could be attempted.
Ask yourself, how much am I spending and what is the highest value card can I pull. In almost every instance, you are better off buying scratch tickets. If you collect, you are far better off just buying singles. Idk how these hobby boxes are still being opened by anyone other than breakers
I get that the boxes are getting expensive but does your theory of selling direct to consumer at a cheaper price than your LCS is going to help the LCS? I can tell you that margins are shrinking more and more on the LCS side every day, breakers don't see that margin shrinking because no one looks at the break as a whole of the cost, all the consumer cares about is that their team is at a certain cost. LCS's would not survive if they sold boxes to consumers at a discount. Everyone was/is excited for Topps to take over, I hear it over and over, "hopefully Topps will make it more affordable to open boxes," that is just not going to be the case. We are in a industry that is so unique when it comes to setting prices, Topps, Panini, Upper Deck ect ect does not set the price of boxes or cases, the consumer does. If a product, IE - Bowman Draft, is over priced, it does not sell, Topps Chrome Update, prices keep going up because more and more of it is selling... There is alot more to this story but you have to look at the industry as a whole.
i watched Geoff's video and thought he mentioned breakers, but looked again and you were right. i agree that breakers ability to buy at higher prices is part of it. A buddy has a hobby shop and for them to get box allocation from fanatics, they had fo sell / break on fanatics live, so there's that. Thats not true for everyone, but it would definitely be a good data point for this video.
I have one trusted breaker that I use. I’m a Lions fan and 2022-23 and 23-24 were loaded with Lions rookies. Sure it was a gsm low, but I wasn’t 6,7,8, or 900 on a hobby box.
What topps needs to do is simply have a release date with one box you made a comment on a discount. They will never give us a discount. Come on, but have a release day with only one box for the collectors that gives us an opportunity, then on a different release date where they have a random Draw when you can buy cases of the product, which I’ve never been selected on the draw,, they do this in the sneaker market with Nike limit the product of one. Topps doesn’t have to spend $ or build hype the product is sold out in minutes Topps knows this, but they are catering 100% to the breakers, and has steered me away from actually buying boxes or even trying to anymore on their format,, everyone be safe take care, happy holidays
It's not fair to the avid collector because I guarantee you that Panini is getting the hot boxes and cases as far as that's concerned! I'm going to say the print run goes to the breakers 80% ! Fanatics has ruined the entire Hobby!!
SCI guy (I refuse to say his name) and T-pot are the most annoying content creators in the space. They remind me of villains from Hollywood. Mr Burns and Megamind is what I call them.
The overpriced hobby boxes in sports cards in general comes down to greed in the hobby people who either can’t let the boom go and miss info people about a lottery ticket.
Maybe what they should do is reduce parallels, inserts, and other special cards. Just a crap ton of base and vanishingly few hits. That'll kill breaking real fast, as the odds of getting anything good will get even worse than they are now. Don't lower prices immediately, just make boxes have so few hits it's not worth it. (Well, even _less_ worth it) Then, maybe, we'll have the crash in the gambling aspect of card collecting that we desperately need. People will go bankrupt chasing the few hits and hopefully join Gamblers Anonymous to get the help they need. And everyone but set builders will be gone. And then, after all that, they start cutting print runs. It's a stupid, crazy idea, but maybe we need it.
No one needs breakers to get simgles.......oh my how did we did it in the past! Not part of the game. Stop buy the shit for the gauged prices on boxes. Phahaque Em!
Geoff Wilson's new sports card video missed the mark about new product pricing.
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If you have a sports card collection to sell, I have resources to assist. Please email me at the address below.
For all non-sports card related collectibles videos, visit my 2nd channel at @collectiblesdad
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I'm 100% OUT on buying new product....it's WAY too expensive!!! Like so high it's disrespectful. Singles only for me.
Geoff is a joke to long time collectors. No one serious in the hobby cares what that guy had to say.
who do you care about. I find his content entertaining, but curious who you do like.
@@ryanbauer8317Sports Card Radio
@@ryanbauer8317 as a collector. Not investor, collector, I need no input from a TH-camr. I like hobby talk. Light hearted sports card talk. Geoff inserted himself into this hobby as some sort of big deal and influencer. In my circle this guy is a stain on the hobby. You can place some of the blame on this guy for $100 packs of cards.
@@ryanbauer8317Geoff is a big name in this hobby. He influences. For all the wrong reasons. He deals in big. Expensive. PSA10. Top 5 cards. Big boxes. Big packs. It’s takes the fun out of collecting. And he is the big fish. The other day my son’s friend was opening a pack of Pokémon. He bypassed the first few cards to get to the back of the pack for the holo’s and reverses. The base cards are just bulk. It’s that attitude that is going to ruin the hobby. And I put this guy front and center for this crap. I could go on and on with this clown.
@@MJS_whooowe all insert ourselves into the hobby.. just because you didn’t make a platform like he did doesn’t make his points any less important to the hobby than yours. It’s a good thing people like him are in it.
I'm old, why do I want someone else to open my packs? Isn't that the best part, the smell the feel, and the gum?
Yes. You are missing nothing. Rest easy
The idea is that you can buy into just the team or player you want so you save money compared to buying whole boxes.
@@ryanorourke9487 how about I just buy the cards I want ? Got to be cheaper
@@magicbanding1095yeah, that is the smart way to do it. Breaking just lets you roll the dice in getting a big time card of the players you want most, at a discount.
I’m not saying breaking is smart. It’s a gamble and entertaining for some is all.
word!
I don't collect anymore because the only cards worth value are rookies that have never thrown an NFL pass, taken an NBA on-court shot, or stood at the plate in the MLB. Unproven players whose cards are worth 1000% the value of people who are winning championships. And 90% of the time those cards are worth nothing in 3 years.
I totally agree with you because it's gotten way out of hand period!!!
My thoughts: i wish content creators stopped making videos about videos
Yep. Topps Chrome used to be my favorite product. Now the only time I open it is when it comes in a subscription box or is on super sale. Prices for sports cards that are not "cardboard/card stock" are way overpriced. At least cardboard is a little affordable, but I find myself buying A LOT LESS of that as well...due to the price gouge of today. I turned to retail as a result of this, and even retail is putting less cards in boxes whilst charging more! I will not buy any retail chrome either. $40 for a blaster box = LOL!
Breakers can open all of it at these prices.
and the customers pay for it.... going broke
100% out on this hobby. It has jumped the shark.
Nah GoodLife tried to scam me. A package was clearly damaged by the post and he wouldn't refund even with insurance he had.
Geoff Wilson proved wax is a scam, its 100% gambling.
It's been that way forever
I bet breakers are higher than 80% just going by the disparity between MSRP for a box and the price for singles.
I’ve never bought into a break in my life. The amount of sports card sealed wax and retail product I buy these days pales in comparison to the amount of singles and slabs I buy.
Geoff did a good job explaining the prices, including the balance between print runs, parallels, etc. what I think he missed is how Topps is eliminating products on the low-mid range. Just a few SKUs and then you’re into expensive breaker-heavy products.
He doesn't mention it because they do breaks
Jeff has missed it every since he opened his mouth…….
280 boxes has to be a drop in the bucket. I bet print runs on most of these modern products are STUPID high. Probably similar, if not higher, than the junk wax print runs in the late 80's, early 90's......
Spare me the entertainment. Give me a effin box of cards at a price people can afford and not this outrageous Price Gauging USERY!
You can do the math on print runs to determine what the print run is. Then see what a dent 40 cases may be etc. I’m sure someone out there has done it - Stryker used to
Correction: Breakers ipening anything NEVER MAKES SENSE!
What would stop resellers from buying it when available to the public?
Man I can't wait for future influence that I won't listen too
keep tuning in here, at least for Alf's sake lol
A "special" of $250. This way the collector or flipper will only lose $220 as opposed to $270. Smart! 😂
The prices of hobby style boxes are manipulated by the shops and breakers... select 2023 football international hobby jumps from 250$ to 500+ in 2 weeks wtf
Geoff “misses” a lot on almost everything. His motives are transparent and never rooted in truth.
Geoff really just doesn't get it
This is spot on! Jeff didn't comment on it because doesn't cards HQ break? They have to find a better way otherwise it'll ruin the hobby by pricing the average consumer out. I just got back in the hobby this year and am already having second thoughts about staying in the hobby.
I have been a collector since the 70's im getting priced out of trying to put sets together when you work for minimum wage
It's illegal gambling with minors. All breakers are the problem. I pay more because they run illegal operations. And yes everyone thinks they can create a new carnival game via trading cards. Look at fanatics live. Everyone talks about collecting and calling it a hobby while marketing vaults and consignment. The value will never be in the cards until the boxes go back to MSRP. They all get back door deals, the guys you are trying to credit for working at it. I remember when it was as simple as taking a picture of your store front and you could buy bulk from manufacturers. Now, it's required amounts of purchase and quotas for moving. It's not an industry promoting collecting or making it worthwhile. Add in all vintage graded is most likely juiced by thousands of juicers over decades.
Nothing is going change as long as people are buying them. It's flippers/breakers buying cards now. Dumbasses like me are screwed. I like pulling cool stuff from packs but I can't afford it so I have to switch to singles if I plan to continue in this hobby. I'm only 6 months in and I didn't know it was like this.
I collected from 1981 until like 1992 and on off a fee other times, but I got back into it back in 2018, and it's completely different than when I was younger.
Jeff Wilson isn't going to bash breaking because he does it on every breaking platform!!
Great video. Nothing but the truth.
I would go as far as create a product line that breakers are not allowed to open. I'm sure some would still do it on the secondary market but perhaps with the right marketing around it breakers would avoid breaking it becuse that allocation is meant for collectors. A sort of hobby wide policed effort to keep cool boxes in the hands of the small guys. Pipe dream I'm sure but it would be interesting to see if it could be attempted.
I like this idea!
As usual, great insight
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How are Breakers buying so many boxes!? Are their that many people supporting them and buying into spots!?
Ask yourself, how much am I spending and what is the highest value card can I pull. In almost every instance, you are better off buying scratch tickets. If you collect, you are far better off just buying singles. Idk how these hobby boxes are still being opened by anyone other than breakers
I get that the boxes are getting expensive but does your theory of selling direct to consumer at a cheaper price than your LCS is going to help the LCS? I can tell you that margins are shrinking more and more on the LCS side every day, breakers don't see that margin shrinking because no one looks at the break as a whole of the cost, all the consumer cares about is that their team is at a certain cost. LCS's would not survive if they sold boxes to consumers at a discount. Everyone was/is excited for Topps to take over, I hear it over and over, "hopefully Topps will make it more affordable to open boxes," that is just not going to be the case. We are in a industry that is so unique when it comes to setting prices, Topps, Panini, Upper Deck ect ect does not set the price of boxes or cases, the consumer does. If a product, IE - Bowman Draft, is over priced, it does not sell, Topps Chrome Update, prices keep going up because more and more of it is selling... There is alot more to this story but you have to look at the industry as a whole.
Singles are based on spec on performance wait till everyone tanks .... Then buy the crap for pennies on the dollar.
i watched Geoff's video and thought he mentioned breakers, but looked again and you were right. i agree that breakers ability to buy at higher prices is part of it.
A buddy has a hobby shop and for them to get box allocation from fanatics, they had fo sell / break on fanatics live, so there's that. Thats not true for everyone, but it would definitely be a good data point for this video.
This is a rich man's hobby..
Geoff is a collector, breaker, shop owner, TH-camr, Investor and d Salesman. So his comments are from every point of the hobby.
By “d salesman”, do you mean he’s a “douchebag salesman”???? If so, you are spot on!!!!!!!
🎼Pass The Dou'chey .. 🎶
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@@todddillon613 Dustin, pin this comment. That’s hilarious!!!!
It’s disgusting adults are trying to PUSH GAMBLING TO KIDS. “Hobby positivity” YT crowd show no grounding ethics or morality.
Hahahaa......Funny Title ....let me ask......WHEN did Geeeeooooofffffff Ever get it right?! 😂🎉😂🎉
I have one trusted breaker that I use. I’m a Lions fan and 2022-23 and 23-24 were loaded with Lions rookies. Sure it was a gsm low, but I wasn’t 6,7,8, or 900 on a hobby box.
Yeah I like your idea of a collectors window
Fanatics could take cue from Hasbro and do pre-orders on product.
He really missed it on CT Scanning
What topps needs to do is simply have a release date with one box you made a comment on a discount. They will never give us a discount. Come on, but have a release day with only one box for the collectors that gives us an opportunity, then on a different release date where they have a random Draw when you can buy cases of the product, which I’ve never been selected on the draw,, they do this in the sneaker market with Nike limit the product of one. Topps doesn’t have to spend $ or build hype the product is sold out in minutes Topps knows this, but they are catering 100% to the breakers, and has steered me away from actually buying boxes or even trying to anymore on their format,, everyone be safe take care, happy holidays
Alf: He was not work out 🤪
It's not fair to the avid collector because I guarantee you that Panini is getting the hot boxes and cases as far as that's concerned!
I'm going to say the print run goes to the breakers 80% ! Fanatics has ruined the entire Hobby!!
How has Fanatics ruined the hobby?
RK Collectibles is best breaker out there. Honest and trustworthy
SCI guy (I refuse to say his name) and T-pot are the most annoying content creators in the space. They remind me of villains from Hollywood. Mr Burns and Megamind is what I call them.
The overpriced hobby boxes in sports cards in general comes down to greed in the hobby people who either can’t let the boom go and miss info people about a lottery ticket.
Singles and ready to mingles!
lol 😆
Maybe what they should do is reduce parallels, inserts, and other special cards. Just a crap ton of base and vanishingly few hits. That'll kill breaking real fast, as the odds of getting anything good will get even worse than they are now. Don't lower prices immediately, just make boxes have so few hits it's not worth it. (Well, even _less_ worth it) Then, maybe, we'll have the crash in the gambling aspect of card collecting that we desperately need. People will go bankrupt chasing the few hits and hopefully join Gamblers Anonymous to get the help they need. And everyone but set builders will be gone.
And then, after all that, they start cutting print runs.
It's a stupid, crazy idea, but maybe we need it.
No we NEED it to keep going. Let those other people waste their money. I will keep buying the high value singles. Less competition for me.
Is Alf your snuggle buddy, or what???
lol
No one needs breakers to get simgles.......oh my how did we did it in the past!
Not part of the game. Stop buy the shit for the gauged prices on boxes. Phahaque Em!