Thank you for such an important and touching documentary Kristin! My Grandad's camp, our family cabin, was on the Cisco Branch of the Ontonagon River, and was impacted by the Wild Rivers Act. Its been gone for awhile, as are all the camps down that road. I just went down the forestry road off Sleepy Hollow a couple weeks ago and located the spot where it once stood, climbed down the bank to the river (trail is long gone) where we used to fish and my kids swam, and I also found the spot where the buck pole once stood. So sad. My grandchildren won't have the same opportunities to make memories like my kids, me, my parents, and grandparents did. So many deer stories, fish tales, and hiking stories at the Rebel Camp all long gone now, feels like the end of an era (built in the mid 1970s), but I'm forever grateful for having grown up in that culture. Respect for nature and self-reliance.
What is really ridiculous are the people who claim camps like this destroy the forest. Look at the short time your family camp has been gone and you can't even tell it was there.
Don't give up your traditions, even if it means packing in wall tents and wood stoves. We do it every year, its a lot of work but the memories are my most fondest.
I hope the younger generations can keep some of those traditions going! From a fellow outdoorsman from Tennessee my heart goes out to all those impacted by this!
OH my goodness, I have a camp, a hunting cabin I have been working on for years now. My heart goes out to all of you. I can't imagine what you are going thru. May god bless all of you.
I just uploaded it to TH-cam a couple months ago. I had it on Vimeo for a handful of years but then deactivated that paid video account so needed to upload it here. You can also find more info on my website upariver.net
@@TimyTims I might have. I did go to a few out that way. Been too long now to remember them all. I went to around 30 camps and less than half made the final film cut.
This breaks my heart. We have a lease on property that my dad and uncles started hunting on and set up a camp to squirrel hunt for the first time in 1953. We were able to lease the land starting in 2001. We can’t build any structures so we set up a tent camp for squirrel camp and deer camp. This year will be our 22nd deer camp. I hold my breath every year waiting to get the renewal letter.
Awesome flick! Well done. Thanks for telling their stories. What a crime, that the Forestry Service felt there was no way to continue. I wonder how they sleep at night...
Heartbreaking isn’t the word !!! Iam sorry for all that had to let go of such wonderful places !! Treasure the memories and help them live on through your stories !!!! Bless you all !!!!!
What a shame, people build something great and the gov. destroys it. I hope every camp found a new place to continue making memories. We started looking for a place to buy or build on and found this. Thanks for sharing this video.
Good to see that you got the history of these camps but... it breaks my heart to see them lost with all the blood, sweat, tears shed in the builds and memories gone!
This video deserves millions of views. Growing up in Maryland we have a massive hunting heritage but no camps or cabins due to the big releastate prices. It makes me yearn for places like this to have a camp to go to year round and work and enjoy with friends and family instead of the local Wawa or highs in the morning
Brings back so many memories,back when it was a cherished experience,heritage,not got the trophy deer,killed the most birds,it was the camraderie, sad to see it go, glad i got too see it firsthand
Without going into a mile long detailed story, the state of Pennsylvania did something very similar to an area where my family had camped for decades. The terms were a little different and thankfully, we were able to fight back and win our access back. Now 20 years later it is being threatened again. My heart goes out to these people. I first heard about this watching Discovery where they mentioned the Agate Hilton and this documentary. I'm glad I looked it up, it perfectly encapsulated camp culture and how it breeds a connection with the wild that no Forest Service or DNR cubicle warden could ever understand.
Just came across this and I feel for these folks. What is unsettling is what is said at 31:30. “The land is our land” said by a public servant….and she is not talking about “us” being in that circle.
Thanks! And thank you for watching. Glad Ryan told you about it. I haven't watched the film myself in quite some time but I'm sure I'd cry again when I do.
No better memories than Michigan camping. Bittersweet, but wonderful documentary. Ill keep this in mind camping with my family, and treasure every second I can.
this is. heard to watch i just got word that I have to move my motorhome that my dad left me when he past and I don't now if I can find a place to move it to. I guess thay can make more money with me being gone . I hope these people come out on top and god bless them all
I've been on the Fender road/trail and have shown my daughters the old fender. What a sad story of how times have changed. Such big woods that hardly get used by the public anymore. I started hunting in the UP when I was 16yrs old, moved to the UP when I was 21, made a family at 30 and I'll be 50 in a few days and wouldn't trade the experience for anything. WHITE WEASEL CAMP
Kristin, I am a friend of Kirk Sayles, who is/was a friend of your Dad's (?) Armas. I once hiked from Kirks camp downstream to Wood Tick Camp and we spent the night. Where is Armas? I would like to connect with him if possible. I don't think he would remember me but I would like to still. I still have a camp on the Middle Branch that I own and still go there. Just got back last night if fact.
Was really fascinated with this story when it was brought about. Has there been any updates or it is what it is , all camps are now gone ? life goes on ?
Life goes on. We had to abandon the camps at the beginning of 2017. We learned we did not have to remove them and they became the property of the US Forest Service-Ottawa National Forest. The USFS received grant money 1-2 years ago to have them removed but they have yet to do so. Many still stand.
This was a great watch. Too bad they can’t do what they did in Alaska with the Arctic wildlife refuge. Basically, the families that had cabins on that land their cabin permits expire when they expire. The Last Alaskans was a good show that followed a few of the families. There’s no reason these camps should have to be vacated. Real shame!
sorry guys 😞 what a shame! Don’t see why the u.s forestry couldn’t work out a lease-deal 😏 Hope many of you found new camps.. still doesn’t make it any easier… all those memories! 😭
Thank you for such an important and touching documentary Kristin! My Grandad's camp, our family cabin, was on the Cisco Branch of the Ontonagon River, and was impacted by the Wild Rivers Act. Its been gone for awhile, as are all the camps down that road. I just went down the forestry road off Sleepy Hollow a couple weeks ago and located the spot where it once stood, climbed down the bank to the river (trail is long gone) where we used to fish and my kids swam, and I also found the spot where the buck pole once stood. So sad. My grandchildren won't have the same opportunities to make memories like my kids, me, my parents, and grandparents did. So many deer stories, fish tales, and hiking stories at the Rebel Camp all long gone now, feels like the end of an era (built in the mid 1970s), but I'm forever grateful for having grown up in that culture. Respect for nature and self-reliance.
What is really ridiculous are the people who claim camps like this destroy the forest. Look at the short time your family camp has been gone and you can't even tell it was there.
Don't give up your traditions, even if it means packing in wall tents and wood stoves. We do it every year, its a lot of work but the memories are my most fondest.
I hope the younger generations can keep some of those traditions going! From a fellow outdoorsman from Tennessee my heart goes out to all those impacted by this!
Excellent documentary. Sad story, but a harsh lesson- if you lease, you are not the owner.
Absolutely devastating. Great production here, thanks for telling these stories.
OH my goodness, I have a camp, a hunting cabin I have been working on for years now. My heart goes out to all of you. I can't imagine what you are going thru. May god bless all of you.
I can't believe that this only has one comment. I just moved to Bruce Crossing and this has really helped me to understand the area.
I just uploaded it to TH-cam a couple months ago. I had it on Vimeo for a handful of years but then deactivated that paid video account so needed to upload it here. You can also find more info on my website upariver.net
Did you ever talk to Ed Daniels? He had a camp somewhere off Choate rd.
@@TimyTims I might have. I did go to a few out that way. Been too long now to remember them all. I went to around 30 camps and less than half made the final film cut.
This breaks my heart. We have a lease on property that my dad and uncles started hunting on and set up a camp to squirrel hunt for the first time in 1953. We were able to lease the land starting in 2001. We can’t build any structures so we set up a tent camp for squirrel camp and deer camp. This year will be our 22nd deer camp. I hold my breath every year waiting to get the renewal letter.
Awesome flick! Well done. Thanks for telling their stories. What a crime, that the Forestry Service felt there was no way to continue. I wonder how they sleep at night...
Love this One of the best films ever... Great Job
Thank you! And thank you for watching. Probably the best film/video I'll ever create. Definitely my favorite and closest to my heart.
@@discovertheup So glad you made it keep going!!! never stop !!!
This breaks my heart,, so much laughter, memories and stories that those walls held, crying shame alot of that will be lost to time 🥺
Heartbreaking isn’t the word !!! Iam sorry for all that had to let go of such wonderful places !! Treasure the memories and help them live on through your stories !!!! Bless you all !!!!!
What a shame, people build something great and the gov. destroys it. I hope every camp found a new place to continue making memories. We started looking for a place to buy or build on and found this. Thanks for sharing this video.
Magnificent piece, well done. I was very moved by this/these stories.
Thank you Kristin. you captured camp life . I am crying that the lease's where not extended.
Awesome documentary! But so sad. I can't even imagine. I would be so upset.
Good to see that you got the history of these camps but... it breaks my heart to see them lost with all the blood, sweat, tears shed in the builds and memories gone!
grew up in iron county now live in Hancock you guys did an awesome job showcasing what hunting camps mean to some of us yoopers!
This video deserves millions of views. Growing up in Maryland we have a massive hunting heritage but no camps or cabins due to the big releastate prices. It makes me yearn for places like this to have a camp to go to year round and work and enjoy with friends and family instead of the local Wawa or highs in the morning
Brings back so many memories,back when it was a cherished experience,heritage,not got the trophy deer,killed the most birds,it was the camraderie, sad to see it go, glad i got too see it firsthand
Without going into a mile long detailed story, the state of Pennsylvania did something very similar to an area where my family had camped for decades. The terms were a little different and thankfully, we were able to fight back and win our access back. Now 20 years later it is being threatened again. My heart goes out to these people. I first heard about this watching Discovery where they mentioned the Agate Hilton and this documentary. I'm glad I looked it up, it perfectly encapsulated camp culture and how it breeds a connection with the wild that no Forest Service or DNR cubicle warden could ever understand.
Just came across this and I feel for these folks. What is unsettling is what is said at 31:30. “The land is our land” said by a public servant….and she is not talking about “us” being in that circle.
This is so awesome, yet so sad. Thank you for sharing this. 😢
Heart breaking, but great documentary. I’m one of Ryan Hash’s good friends
Thanks! And thank you for watching. Glad Ryan told you about it. I haven't watched the film myself in quite some time but I'm sure I'd cry again when I do.
Great job, Kristin. This was a good piece to watch. My dad and some cousins were in this same boat with a camp on the middle branch.
I have to say, this is awesome
Awesome job love it
A great snapshot of camp life. A sad story in the end but many great times. I love the ropes that some had to use to access the camps! Well done!
No better memories than Michigan camping. Bittersweet, but wonderful documentary. Ill keep this in mind camping with my family, and treasure every second I can.
Such a great video !
this is. heard to watch i just got word that I have to move my motorhome that my dad left me when he past and I don't now if I can find a place to move it to. I guess thay can make more money with me being gone . I hope these people come out on top and god bless them all
Phenomenal!!!!
The forest service could have worked out a better solution, but they didnt want to. They are cling off access here in Colorado too.
I've been on the Fender road/trail and have shown my daughters the old fender. What a sad story of how times have changed. Such big woods that hardly get used by the public anymore. I started hunting in the UP when I was 16yrs old, moved to the UP when I was 21, made a family at 30 and I'll be 50 in a few days and wouldn't trade the experience for anything.
WHITE WEASEL CAMP
Government will screw up anything .
Kristin, I am a friend of Kirk Sayles, who is/was a friend of your Dad's (?) Armas. I once hiked from Kirks camp downstream to Wood Tick Camp and we spent the night. Where is Armas? I would like to connect with him if possible. I don't think he would remember me but I would like to still. I still have a camp on the Middle Branch that I own and still go there. Just got back last night if fact.
My dad is still living in Paynesville!
So sad been to the Bar non lodge with my buddy Willy nice camp
Politicians and big government wonder why the citizens don't like and distrust them, this right here is a prime example.
Was really fascinated with this story when it was brought about. Has there been any updates or it is what it is , all camps are now gone ? life goes on ?
Life goes on. We had to abandon the camps at the beginning of 2017. We learned we did not have to remove them and they became the property of the US Forest Service-Ottawa National Forest. The USFS received grant money 1-2 years ago to have them removed but they have yet to do so. Many still stand.
thank you for the update - best to you @@KristinOjaniemi
So sad, this is so uncalled for and I wish sinthing could have been done.
That guy with the Forest Service, he could care less. Probably never hunted or fished in his life.
i agree.. he didn’t seem to give a damn!
I bet if he was in their shoes he would’ve
Most of these people who make these rules have never been there, and most likely never will.
a good example of the government messing up a good thing
This was a great watch. Too bad they can’t do what they did in Alaska with the Arctic wildlife refuge. Basically, the families that had cabins on that land their cabin permits expire when they expire. The Last Alaskans was a good show that followed a few of the families. There’s no reason these camps should have to be vacated. Real shame!
sorry guys 😞
what a shame!
Don’t see why the u.s forestry couldn’t work out a lease-deal 😏
Hope many of you found new camps.. still doesn’t make it any easier… all those memories! 😭
This is very sad,,,,,
Beautiful documentary. Thanks for sharing.
Modern day version of the Indian Removal Policy’s of the 1800s. Now you know how the Indian felt.
So sad
Another reason why Michigan Sucks...........
Michigan doesn't suck, the politicians do.
The politicians are great in Michigan this is literally a federal agency that did this…
The politicians here are great, especially our governor, this was literally a federal agency though that did this
The politicians here are great, especially our governor, this was literally a federal agency though that did this
The politicians here are great, especially our governor, this was literally a federal agency though that did this
Also; the forest service NEVER HAS MINDED TIMBER SALES…..CLEAR CUTTING THAT LEAVES AN UGLY SCAR FOR 30-40 YEARS!!!!
@jeffanlam1080
Your point?
Clear cutting is fantastic for the wood stands, as a great renewable resource, as well as the animal populations.
Bro you do t know the first thing about forestry, logging is essential for forest structure and the ecosystem
@ I think it’s great….except clear cutting, especially redwood that gets sold in Asian markets….seeing as THAT IS OUR RAINFOREST!!