Eminence versus evidence based medicine - problems with the science
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- In this interview, Geoffrey Woo and Dr Paul Mason candidly discuss failures of nutritional research of which many doctors are unaware. Problems with the distortion and misrepentation of research to both the scientific community and public are covered, as are new research on vegan diets. Dr Mason also covers the debate around LDL cholesterol and provides a simple explanation for when it might be an issue.
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Paul Mason is a WORLD-CLASS leading-edge scientist-doctor.
A big thanks to you.
So the way i live:
1. no sugar
2. no grains (which are sugar)
3. no vegetable oils
4. no processed food
5. chew and breathe well
6. 5000 - 10000 steps a day
7. resistance training twice a week
--> my personal summary of all i learned from Mason, Berry, Westman, Ekberg, Fung, Teichholz......
btw: i lost 60 pounds, 30 year old excema gone, mental clarity and good mood, no more joint pain
Excellent summary
@@Angel-rv1mt thx Anna
Whenever I try keto few days later I feel tired and dizzy.
@@osamahkiwan85 The water weight loss in the first few days is also flushing out your electrolytes. You need to ensure you keep your electrolytes up. That's what's causing the dizziness. Try putting salt or lite salt in your drinking water along with some stevia and a bit of lemon juice as well.
@@osamahkiwan85 Biology doesn't work like an on/off switch. Your body needs time to adapt. Genes have to be turned on, enzymes have to be transcribed, receptors have to be upregulated or downregulated. Your brain needs to learn how to use ketones as well. You need to transition slowly. It took me 10 months to go from starting keto to carnivore and then it takes around 20 weeks to fully adapt.
You sir have transformed, no i would even go as far as saying saved my life, and opened my eyes to all the BS I have been told all my life. Your videos have made me live a new total 100% clean lchf/keto lifestyle. 20kg down in 4 months.
Fat food = lean body.
Lean food = fat body.
THANK YOU! for all your amazing talks. 👏
Dr. Mason, along with others, has done the same for me.
That’s impressive 👍
Me too. Than,s to his info and inspiration I have dropped 50 lbs in 4 months
Great comment Louise (me too😊) and I love your fat/lean aphorism. Hit the nail on the head.
Don't yall just love Dr. Paul Mason. Such a wealth of knowledge.
I owe so much to people like Paul Mason it makes me emotional. People like Mr. Mason give me the confidence to live health in the face of an ever growing plant based society. I think its hitting its peak and will fall soon but right now I have friends who think vegetable oil is healthy and lab meat is a good idea. It literally makes me sad good friends of mine think this. Thank you for all that you do Paul. From the "land up over" aka Canada!
Even my "keto friendly Doctor" still tells me to eat less Saturated fat!! 🙄 I just go straight home and eat some butter 🤣 😝
I agree!!
At 28:30 in, the brilliant Dr. Mason makes the case that patients with higher LDL can experience greater regression of arterial plaques compared to patients with lower LDL. So tell me again why I, who got a very high CAC score two years ago (I'd been eating low-fat for 20 years, thinking it was a GOOD idea, not understanding that low-fat is high-carb is hyperinsulinemia is insulin resistance is coronary artery disease) and then went strict LCHF, sharply lowering my trygs and raising my HDL (and raising my LDL!), would consent to taking a med - statins - that would lower my LDL?! Every cardiologist I've ever met, and boy have I met many in recent years, pushes me to take statins to screw with my liver so as to lower my LDL so....... they can feel better about themselves. I could ask my current cardiologist to watch this vid, but it would be fruitless. He, like every single cardiologist I've encountered, cares not about root-cause (nutritional) approach, is all in for pharma approach, wants to take LDL down to near zero with PCSK9 inhibitors. Improper nutrition - consumption of two things our bodies were not evolved to handle/process - seed oils and chronic excess carbs - is what causes heart disease. Try telling that to a cardiologist.
Are you young, and wanting to avoid the heart disease your father/uncle/grandfather had? Don't go low-fat, go low-carb. Cut out seed oils and carbs - grains, most fruits, sugars, starches. That'll leave you eating meats, fatty fish, eggs, greens, nuts, cheeses, yogurts... And move your bod. And ignore your 40-years-behind-the-curve docs.
Another mic drop moment brought to you by Dr. Paul Mason. Thoroughly enjoyed. Thank you.
I agree
Dr. Paul Mason is disrupting the vegan movement. But I guess, at the very least, it reminds us that nothing in Science is absolute.
Actually, mainstream "science" of the past 60 years is 180 degrees against the evidence.
Consensus is anathema to Science
Excellent discussion, as always. Eminence, ego and hubris have always been problems in the medical profession but "evidence" is not a simple solution. The movement referred to as "evidence based medicine," for example, is rather corrupted and far from the solution it may sound to some. So-called "medical science" is effectively experienced as virtually a religion. People "believe" in science rather than see it as a rational and disciplined practice of generating and refining empirical knowledge. Unfortunately, we see little real change in medical education, so those who find their way into truly effective (i.e. revolutionary!!) clinical practice -- like yours Paul! -- will continue to face barriers and a need to first unlearn a great deal of rubbish. What a tragedy! There are too many vested interests, too much politics, and too little critical thinking. Still, there are some positive and constructive signs, so we live in hope.
This problem unfortunately applies to everything
Excellent, excellent information. This interview was conducted extremely well with few interruptions by the interviewer but who at the same time asked pertinent questions. 👍👍👍👍👍
Dr. Paul Mason is a world wonder
I love learning from Paul Mason ❤
Paul, you are stunning - a wonderful example of low carb eating!!!!
Doctors / researcher , told us for years that smoking was GOOD for us .
Paul; articulate as usual. Interviewer; waffling and intrusive. The media is very quick to point the finger at the role of 'big beef' in any pronouncements but no one is asking "who is bank-rolling the aggressive vegan campaign" and deliberately obfuscating the soil health issue?
The "Plant-Based Juggernaut" is probably funded 10000:1 against beef. EVERY profit- and belief-driven entity in Western society is pushing us to eat inferior food products.
👍👍👍👍
Paul is really great. 🌞👍
The glucose (and fructose) spike vs free fatty acid spike needs deconstructing. An important point should be fat is absorbed into the lymphatic system first and not directly into the blood, whereas glucose is absorbed directly into the blood.
It's wonderful to hear people who know how to think.
isn't it refreshing.
Science rules, literally! Thank you Dr. Mason
Geoffrey Woo, what an excellent interview!
You did a fantastic job.
One of the best Dr. Paul Mason interviews I’ve seen and I watch them all…
Dr Mason.... legend....My "LDL" is through the roof since being on keto/carnivore but your lecture on interpreting the results makes sense of it...my recent TGL was 69mg/dL and HDL was 54 mg/dL so my TGL:HDL ratio was 1.27 so seems to be in the right direction with room to improve...my LDL was 326 mg/dL calculated from a TC of 393 mg/dL.... "remnant" was 13 mg/dL....so hopefully at this point I can assume a higher probability of non oxidised Pattern A....???
If one thinks raising animals on earth will contribute to it warming then they need to look up Alan Savory, desertification and learn how we can green earth and feed the hungry. You can start here on utoob
Thank you for another great talk Dr. Mason and Geoffrey! I have been on a Ketogenic/carnivore diet for three and a half years and when I started my bloodwork showed my triglycerides were 150 mg/dl and after 3 years this value came down to 66 mg/dl and my HDL went up from 60 mg/dl to 98 mg/dl.
May I know how is your LDL?
@@ladybirdthatsme3734 they remained the same, 223.
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It is the type of LDL you look at; the LDL-C test doesn’t show type of LDL.
You want large fluffy particles and not hard, dense particles.
Inflammation worsens hard dense LDL.
Statins are not going to help; they have lots of serious side effects.
Hello Dr.Mason, I am your fan. Greeting from Germany.
Utterly brilliant as usual
Another informative video. Thanks to both of you.
By the way, I just saw the news out of Australia. Stay dry over there, Dr. Mason!
👏👏
Statistics NOT EQUALS science! I don't understand why a lot, or maybe most, doctors are glued to the numbers on their computer screens instead of listening to their patients. I've changed my mind completely on them. You have to earn my trust, it's not given.
Awesome!
So good! Thanks Dr. Paul Mason
A New Video :O greate! Thank You
I wanted to listen to Dr Paul Mason--NOT Mr Woo's Wisdom
I’m trying to decide whether to tell my doctor I have been on a keto diet for a while or not. He does a full set of blood tests each year but missed last year for obvious reasons. I know my fasting glucose will be highlighted as I now have what’s called ‘adaptive glucose sparing’ which is also called ‘physiological insulin resistance’. I assume with all the fat I eat that my LDL will be high too. Whilst I understand the reasons behind these things, it might be too much to hope that my doctor does. The last thing I want is to be prescribed Metformin and a statin. What do you think about keeping your doctor informed of your keto diet? Currently, I’m going with silence and seeing what happens, but that might mean he will need to be persuaded to get my HOMA-IR and be convinced to get me a CAC test.
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge on nutrition and health!
15:00 This speaks volumes to the outstanding character of Dr Mason, and his ability to keep an open mind. In all facets of life not many professionals do this.
Thanks for posting this doc! Amazing interview!
Dr. Luke, I agree
Excellent video encompassing such a wide gambit of metabolic health issues & touching on subject of food sources, dietary guidelines & farming practices. 👍👍👍
I am a huge fan of Dr Mason
Brilliant talk! Thanks Dr Paul
It is a conspiracy for sure. 70 years of pushing lies. Not just arrogance.
Dr. Mason, why did my a1c go higher (5.2 to 5.6), also my tri. from 54-96, from keto to carnivore? OMAD Carnivore 2 years..and my ldl is very high, which I am not surprised, but my a1c and tri. went higher...I am like...what???
Are you eating too much for your activity level and metabolic rate?
Dr. Sarah Hallberg says this may be caused by physiological insulin resistance, which is not a bad thing.
@@TheShumoby no...1200-1400 calories...and I exercise 1 hr daily plus 1 hr yoga.
@@KatieZeldin physiological insulin resistance...that's something new for me. I love carnivore and actually feel really good on this WOE. Keto still gives me stomach problem.
Do you do intermittent fasting?
I find 18:6 to 20:4 IF beneficial.
Enough is recall Kain and Abel. Which sacrifice was accepted?
:)
Kind regards.
Can you please ask Virta Health when are they going to publish their results of the third year of their study?
Can you please ask Dr. Mason if he knows anything? Is Virta Health delaying the publication of their results?
I think yes.
It is as simple as observing the detail of their graphs in the 1 year paper. And compare it to the gross lack of detail in their graphs of the second year paper. Their curves of the first year paper were already showing signs of "U" shaped response in time, and they intentionally removed those U shaped graphs in the 2nd year paper.
Can you please ask Dr. Mason about that?
I already asked Virta an Mason and no answer was given. I know Hallbergh is sick, and the pandemic disturbed all processes. But still I trully believe Virta is delaying the publication of the third year results.
I hope you can track this question on both Virta and Mason.
And do not get me wrong, I'm low carb myself and, fortunately, reversed my diabetes. But what I do not like is the use of "makeup" in scientific papers to highlight as big, not very big findings. And for diminish/dilute findings contrary to what researchers expect. Exactly what Mason has talked about. Exactly what we are seeing in the Virta trial reporting.
Earth worms and red wriggler worms people. I think I have about 1 trillion of the little helpers.
In light of all of the fundamental carbon bond chemistry unequivocally confirming the superiority of saturated fats over unsaturated fats (especially highly unsaturated ones that have been isolated from the matrix protecting them) as a dietary source of energy, what can we say about the attempts at protecting things like fish oil with the re-addition of antioxidants, in a last ditch effort to attenuate oxidation? Could such measures even begin to compensate for their fragility?
Or, is this call to avoid unsaturated fats relevant not only to the seed oils, but really any processed oils including those of marine sources? A call to sourcing foods in fresh and whole form, at least where food sources of essential polyunsaturated fats [...fatty acids] are concened?
Interpretations of the data (and indeed even the methods used to obtain the data in the first place) concerning oxidation in capsules appear to be conflicting. I suspect it would become quickly evident that there is after all no conflict once methods are examined and the accurate and meaningful data are extracted out.
Excellent discussion with well- informed, articulate guest.
Thanks.
Dam , i was on statins , now i have T2D . I stopped statins because it gave me Sea sickness .
Did you notice the black box warning on the statins about diabetes?
Where can I find the articles that discuss the research about atherosclerosis plaque regression?
Can you put a link here please?
Hey Dr Mason have been following for best part of the year and first time I am loosing my baby fats. Can u put some light on the body types I more inclined towards endomorph. Are endomorph result of over carb eating co have been looking around now more and more people in the cities are becoming with soft endomorphic traits.
An even bigger problem occurs when the entire medical staff answers to national guidelines/hospital guidelines and claims to having to be evidence based . No matter they don’t know the data and the data is invented to benefit big pharmaceutical companies . So the patient that knows how they feel before and now feel worse is NOT listened to because they don’t have answers . Generalised guidelines cannot cover the actual INDIVIDUAL patient unless the person is standardised too. I am living in Sweden and I have lost all faith in the medical business here. Here the science has become blinds towards reality . I refer to all you YT doctors with the science and experience and the common sense and they go into lock down . Look at reality and after go to the science to see if all questions are answered and then question the answers .
My wife is just now diagnosed with diabetes . I have studied on line (Paul Mason, Ken Berry and many more ) and I tell her no meds but strict KETO . I asked her oncologist about KETO and the fact they put all patients on KETO in the M D Anderson Center . Her answer was did I have any Swedish science ??? The arrogance . To my mind M D Anderson is the most successful Center in the world . Next thing I hear is that my wife is diagnosed with diabetes ( I have claimed she had some sort of metabolical syndrome for a long time - but hell I am not a doctor . Well maybe that is a very good thing combined with actual intelligence . You YT docs make sense and back it up with the data . Further more you rebuke the fake science like Ansel Keys and his likes . THANK YOU 🙏
Paul Mason answered a question I had for a while. It seems that type 2 diabetes is fully reversible. Tim Noakes implied you just manage it. He said, you use HBA1C to measure if you are managing it well, and many people have well managed HBA1C which is fully normal. But he rejects glucose tolerance test because he says it's intolerable. But Tim Noakes is wrong.
Maybe Dr. Noakes is cautious to say that diabetes is reversible because some diabetics who go on LCHF diets and manage their blood sugar in the normal range will still have large spikes in blood sugar if given a glucose tolerance test or a large amount of sugar. While their A1C is normal, their glucose response to sugar is still abnormal, whereas a non diabetic person might be able to maintain normal blood sugars when given a large sugar load. Long-term could diabetes truly be reversible with LCHF? Only time will tell.
@@tiredandwantsanap from what was stated, diabetics are heavily glucose unstable. Otherwise, the main mechanism of T2D is the loss of insulin production as a result of fat damage on the pancreas and in general, insulin resistance. Fatty liver damage is a thing, but is also solved by the same method, simply preventing de novo lipogenesis long enough for the pancreas and liver to export all the fat, then recover, and so that the cells can stop being so insulin resistant.
@@tiredandwantsanap
Maybe those people had LADA misdiagnosed as Type 2 Diabetes?
Happens often to those with LADA.
Excellent information, as always. Thank you, Dr. Paul!
Your naivety is charming concerning the motives of doctors.
Dont forget folks get some good sunshine and get on that grass.
excellent talk thanks
Thank you so much for such a clear and simple explanation in layman terms. I think my doctor needs to listen to it hahaha... On keto w low triglycerides, high HDL and LDL.. she wants to put me on statin...
Politely refuse.
I have shared so many of these videos and my PCP still asks me if I’ve changed my mind ABOUT STATINS.
He just charts “patient refused standard of care advice” and leaves me alone. I wish he would learn SOMETHING and help his other patients…at least he humors me and orders all the blood tests I request.
One of the best explanations
Hello! Thank you for the show. Can some one explain, what dr. Mason said, is it ok for the health to have high LDL on HFLC diet? I am lost in all these terms...
Yes if that LDL is not damaged. If your triglycerides are low this is an indication that they are not damaged. As mentioned you can get a particle size analysis in Australia for around $125 to be sure. 15 years ago when I was on a high carb diet and pre diabetic my triglycerides were 1.5. Now after 2 plus years on lchf they are .6.
In older age cohorts, higher LDL has lower mortality.
@@scotchfillet thank you. Now I get it.
If your triglycerides value divided by your HDL value is low (you need to see his videos for values according to your country), then this means you have good metabolic health and your LDL is all healthy LDL.
LDL means nothing in a metabolically healthy person PERIOD.
Know your trig/ HDL ratio!!! Mine is a healthy 0.57 Less than 1.5 is good.🎉
I heard that back in the 1700 people only ate about 4 pounds of sugar /YEAR ....
If that. Likely in form of bread made from scratch.
A lot of life at age 50 yes!!!
What about coconut oil for cooking?
It's great. I also put a tsp to tbsp in my coffee concoction every morning.
Top Soil 50 mins!
Fuck. Exactly! They give the water back. Not an almond though 😅
13:10 Perfect statement. It eccos the truth of all. The way the whole system of control is in place. It makes the process so obvious, there is no stopping our awareness. You guys are simply the best.
It sounds like when people say "empty space" space is not empty. and if it was, there would be nothing to call space. Shadows dont exist. There are no charge carrying particles. Wireless power transfer like an Iphone or android phone charger, there are no fantacy particles traveling anywhere. light does not emit. Light , is an Ether perturbation. There is no speed of light but a rate of induction.
People with higher Cholesterol live longer.
So much to Unlearn.
I thought the introductory music was an ad and I kept trying to skip it till I realised it was part of the video. Horrible music.
Eminence based medicine lol i love that!
Miami? I can see moving to Florida but Miami? It's mostly tar and cement.
Is insulin resistance the core issue or is it also more of an indicator or the consequence of something more fundamental?
Before diabetes there is elevated insulin levels. High levels of insulin result in insulin resistance. Increased insulin and insulin resistance results in fatty liver and less efficient glucose utilization among other problems.
What comes before Hyperinsulinemia?
The diet was wrong for years, too high in carbs, processed seed oils, processed foods, non nutritive foods, junk food, alcohol, sugars, fructose, flour, grains, anti-nutrients, hidden sugars; like with S.A.D. (diet).
Check out Dr Ken Berrys channel, he has tons of videos and is more layman in his discussions. A family doctor in Tennessee he tells it like it is…
the NP that is doing my TRT told me if I cant get my HDL up she will drop my testosterone dose because I will get cardiovascular disease. I pointed out that I dropped my triglycerides from an astonishing 8 to 1 (1.7 being the max on this scale) and she said "yes, thats good... be sure to take your omega 3 supplements, 4000mg a day".
So many clueless…calling themselves health professionals…oxymoron
Thank you!
cool
Already watched this on the other guys channel x
Even feedlot beef spends 90% of its life eating grass.
If we are going to eat them, what matters is what they ate in the last month of their lives. Have you looked at how long it takes to change the Omega3 : Omega 6 ratio?
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the type 2 diabetics that cured their disease, were they long time diabetics, insulin dependant type two? Can you bring beta cells back to life after you have been told they are "dead"?
Ask for a copy of your lab test results including reference ranges.
Then you’ll know if they even did the right lab tests to back up their claim.
The doctor show be able to show you the data, based on the right tests.
Takes longer for longer term diabetics to heal but they do if consistent; not heard any information about resurrection of beta cells. But even if you are insulin dependent the lower the insulin you inject the less damage to your body. LCHF diets are just healthy.
11:33 ... Where he talks about Eminence v Evidence based medicine, just fyi.
Absolute quack
Explain?
Vegan
Skeptics are good...I only ask you also should be skeptical of your nutritional “facts” that you were taught! I was “taught” traditional nutrition also. After my father died (as an insulin diabetic) and I when was diagnosed as type 2 diabetic which I took as a (slow) death sentence that I witnessed in my father’s slow death. Luckily a friend lost weight with low carb, I tried it and lost weight also... and lowered my A1c to 5.3...my doctor was amazed and said it was the weight loss...what ever you say doc! Btw my doctor before said diabetes was a chronic incurable disease, but somehow “forgot” to tell me going really low carb seems to put diabetes in remission! Think for yourself!!!
Yes you are
Your traumas can be helped with; Joe Dispenza, EFT, TFT, but unfortunately not with gaming, rejecting all not complying with your programmed beliefs, fearmongering or veganism. @Ucchi
That's me in my profile picture. I was able to get my gut super-slim by cutting saturated fats way down. There's always boasting and insistence behind "studies," while people live their lives getting results doing exactly what the studies claim shouldn't work. I'm not vegan btw, but I know of other vegans who have the same body style as myself. The "studies" didn't include ME.
Bully for you