Jim Cornette on Jake Roberts Taking Credit For Austin, Michaels, and The Undertaker
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2022
- From Episode 264 of the Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Undertaker did say that Jake taught him the finer points of partying on the road.
Greg Gagne and Jake Roberts taught every great wrestler that ever lived. If you don't believe it, just ask them.
And X-Pac was there
and somehow they all screwed them over 😂😂😂😂😂
BTW, Undertaker is the ONLY wrestler Jake ever let no sell the DDT.
Greg Gagne gave birth to Verne
Jake Roberts carried Ric Flair during their matches ;)
Brian Last depicts Jake this way because Jake owes his friend Jerry Grey money and is dying of cancer.
I think Jake means influence rather than advice. They've all said on record how much of influence Jake was on their work. Taker especially says how much jake influenced his promo and work style. He did less in the ring, he slowed down, because of Jake.
Also Jack Daniel's, Somas and Percs
Exactly. People are not aware of or seen the Interviews and podcasts where they talk about jake being their biggest help in terms of character.
Yes definitely.
I think Jake’s taking credit for things that would have happened without him.
The closing sentence had me rolling
It had me laughing too, but I was also like what the fuck? lol
Drinking his own piss 🤭😂🤣😭
HTM- "NOT THE PISS JAKE, DONT DRINK THE PISS!!"😂😂😂😂😂
and after hearing it, it ain't wrong.
I'd heard that about him before but figured it was just a crazy Jake story, but then remembered that shamen used to give a ton of amanita shrooms to someone then drink the piss as his kidneys had filtered out the impurities maybe some truth in him doing it to prolong the high
He did mentor these wrestlers but he's lying when he says they wouldn't exist without him.
Badass Profile pic! Rock On!
NO....FUCKING.....SHIT!!!!!
Yeah Austin or Undertaker would have gotten over without him. The degree is debateable but they would have gotten over.
What do you think he might’ve said to Dok Hendrix (Hayes) if the final was against mero?😅
What the fuck could Jake teach Shawn Michaels? How to pack a crack pipe?
I don't know what it is about Jake but I've always loved him. In the ring or on the mic, he was just so memorable. Even when Jake was at his worst, it just made me think of him as the underdog. Despite all of his demons and flaws, he never stopped being something special.
Cornette's background sounds and reactions are the greatest
Jake was only in his late 30s but looked like a 58 year old man
The "hogan" effect 😅👆
Is cornette any different? He was born looking 35
@@TRIIGGAVELLI Yes he was very different. lmao I take it you only seen cornette in 90's wwf.
Artwork superb as usual
💯
The Thumbnail is GOLD here ……. 😊
Jake Roberts has a whole different world in his mind
It’s from all those drugs and alcohol
Jake’s memories have a lot of missing scenes so he’s just trying to patch it together
Mind?
Drugs and alcohol aside. Jake was a fucking master. Him and macho man, million dollar man, mr perfect, big boss man. The rest of them are forgettable
The Juice over the years is finally taking its Toll and not even DDP can Stop this ….. 👀
Jake is a legitimate legend. One of the best talkers and in-ring psychologists of all time. He doesn’t need to embellish his accomplishments.
Well, maybe he does. Look at the comments. Both Taker and Austin give props to Jake for helping them with their characters and are grateful but dudes here and Cornette act like he was a prop that could have been fullfilled by anyone else. Your mindset and actions can vary greatly depending on who you look as a teacher, so I'm not so sure.
He's been taking a drink of the juice Hogan's on
I’m a Jake Roberts fan and he was a great wrestler but to be honest he didn’t accomplish that many things in wrestling he could’ve been a bigger star than what he was if he wasn’t so self destructive back then
He made the Godwins randomly stop by a crackhouse, AS A MEMBER OF THE WWF CREATIVE TEAM!?!?!? 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 Jake the Snake 🐍 is truly a f*cking #LEGEND!!! 🙌🏾
The Godwinns outside a Connecticut crack house. Now there’s an image.
That "Austin 3:16" was HUGE at the time. It REALLY helped get Austin over.
Yeah Jake can definitely take credit for that one because Austin got the inspiration from the religious promo Jake cut on him before
It’s the only dog Jake has in this fight here that he’s picked. That is the greatest 1 liner in wrestling history and it still lives on. Jake is part responsible for it and without it...I just don’t know...but I do think SCSA still happens. So Jake has that dog in the fight but still loses IMO. He’s also responsible for UT’s early development. Old UT is straight out of Jake’s old vault. But it wasn’t Jake who kept the gimmick fresh, stuck with it through tough times and made it believable as late as 1998.
@@60BloodyChamp60 that isn’t the greatest one liner lmfao
@@vargas1569 duuuur ok
@@SuperCrazyPsycho731 Jake can take credit if he helped write that promo or tell him a sentence or two. Did he do that? No. It was all Austin. Stop with this bs.
Austin said there wouldn't be no Stone Cold Steve Austin if it wasn't for Bret Hart.
This is a classic example of Jim and Bryan not understanding the question. Jake was around all those guys before 96. In the late 80's/early 90's in his run with the WWF he was around Shawn backstage and Taker. He's responsible for being the guy to turn Taker baby face in 91. The whole Savage/Taker/Jake wedding angle is a classic. As for Steve, Jake was around Steve in WCW in 92. Steve has countless stories of riding with Jake and DDP and learning a ton from Jake. So yes while Jake in 96 had so many issues and was garbage in the ring. He was very pivotal in the early development of all those guys.
Are those Jim member berries lol
Omfg they are
I membaaaa
Do you member Jake the snake? I member
Looks like Jim as "the plague in the Robert's household"
I member
"Not the piss, Jake! Not the piss!"
Honky-tonk Man, lol
Every one of Jake's feuds were so memorable and that says something. I will never forget Jake's feud with Martel and Martel got the "arrogance cologne" in his eyes and they had a blindfold match. Jake was so memorable when he had his snake bite macho. That was a unforgettable moment. I remember his feud with Rude was good and he even helped Warrior and Takers feud by brainwashing Warrior. Jake was awesome
The only one I know is savage vs Jake lol what else he do
His feud with Andre was my favorite. It was brilliantly done by Andre, Jake and Heenan.
@@pleaseshutup7053 ... He literally just listed "what else he do".
Ya messed up people keep bringing up his past even though he has cleaned up his life
@@cannabass5729 tell that to Jerry grey.
The Travis Heckel art work is great on this one, it really captures the essence of an inebriated Jake Roberts
AIN'T THIS THE TRUTH 👍👍👍
40 ounces to glory!
The only thing Jake helped Shawn Michaels with is hooking him up with the dealers with the prime nose candy.
Jake is also with AEW. He definitely has a level of working to the stuff he says. Playing the heel a bit.
That said, The Undertaker does credit Jake for inspiration on how to 'become' a character and tell a story in the ring.
I figured it was because Jake was the second one and the true start of the streak at mania.
Jake Roberts is the Ozzy Osbourne of wrestling, sooo many drugs and still kicking
Not a bad analogy
🤣🤣 that is so true!
Travis always remembers the Jerry Grey story!!!! HTM-"No Jake NOT THE PISS DONT DRINK THE PISS"
I like how this turned into Jim bashing Jake lmao
Yeah it really took a turn about midway through. 😂
That rant helped wake me up more this morning from the laughter. Jake's snake gimmick was super over with kids. He had some magic at one time .
To be fair Mark and this is from the This Is My Yard DVD where he was himself, Mark said he picked up on Jake Roberts both good and bad, and took the good for his ring work, his psychology.
I heard this quote last night and could not WAIT for Jim's take lmao.
That makes two of us. HELL YEAH. The guy who leads the interviewing on the Snake Pit podcast is a bit of a behind kisser imo, and Jake got a bit cocky in his statements having his ego well-stroked.
You wanna play 21? I've got 22.
-Jake Roberts
I don't know, I've always heard Austin give Jake a lot of credit as an influence, always complimentary, his timing, "everything he did made sense", Steve Regal also....
Jake is hitting the Mountain Dew pretty hard.
You mean piss right?
I like how Jake said he was getting a run with the belt against Warrior
I think what Jake probably meant in taking some credit for the success of those three was being associated somehow to their success. But those three had enough talent on their own to get to where they were. I mean I kinda knew Austin was special every since I first saw him in the USWA, especially during his feud with Chris Adams. They had that Come As You Are match and there was something that I saw in Austin that made me realize he had something special. Obviously, Austin 3:16 sent him over the top but if it wasn't going to be that catchphrase it would have been another because Austin always could talk.
Undertaker was going to be a huge star regardless. Seeing him as Mean Mark Callous in WCW just before he jumped ship and watching him do the top rope walk was pretty amazing. He had the size and he stood out. With the Undertaker gimmick, he was captivating upon arrival. You don't get a guy that size with that much athleticism and smoothness every day. And again Jake was associated with the Undertaker in that infamous "Trust me" segments with the Ultimate Warrior. Jake was tremendous in those promos with the Warrior, even though those segments for the most part were stupid because they were the Warrior. Maybe UT got a bit of a leapstart by being part of those but UT had everything and more. That was a no brainer.
Not sure where HBK fits in but minus the behavior problems, Shawn had all the talent in the world just not the size to be a top player. I would credit Sherri a lot more with the initial help in Shawn's singles success than Jake from what I could remember.
I think the one guy that Jake can really take credit for helping is DDP. Dusty too but DDP has been very open about his relationship with Jake and how he translated the DDT into the Diamond Cutter.
Only thing special about the undertaker was his gimmick
Chris Adams has a wrestling school video that Austin was in from about 1990 or 1991or so.... Austin stood out in that old VHS tape before he was ever anyone in professional wrestling.
Why does everyone talk about the fuckin undertaker rope walk?! It ain't that special! His opponent is holding him up and keeping him from falling! It ain't like he did it by himself!
@@superstarreviews9937 But nobody else had really done that back then so yeah it was special
@@superstarreviews9937 Have you ever tried to do that?
Seeing Jake DDT Undertaker twice at Wrestlemania 8 and then the Undertaker gave Jake the piledriver on the floor was so awesome to see at the time. But nothing compares to Jake giving Ricky Steamboat the DDT on the concrete floor on Saturday Night's Main Event. The way they executed the move combined with the camera angle made it look like Steamboat's head bounced off the floor.
"I smell pineapple juice!" - Bobby Heenan 😂😂😂
It did bounce off Floor tho
@@cpesq.5884 shahid khan, booker of the year
It did. Ko'ed him. Jake had to deadlift him into the ring.
Burying the lead Jake wanted to make Neidhart "The Mole".
I saw the coming of the "anti-hero" firsthand in Mid South in 1985. Jake Roberts didn't just become a "good guy" overnight. His own persona drove people to HIS side--he never went to theirs. He won the fans over WHILE being a heel. That is something that up to that point in the wrestling world, I NEVER saw before!
He did do a great job helping turn Undertaker face.
Undertaker should never ever be face.
Jake claimed Macho Man made him use the gimmicked snake on himself first because according to Jake “Macho was afraid if the snake was venomous he’d miss time and lose his Intercontinental Title” (even doing a perfect imitation of Savage using the quote) problem is Macho was semi-retired at the time and doing commentary with Vince- thus had no belt!
And there’s the Rick Rude story that defies all logic!!!
Jake Robert’s is a Legend 💪
Oh nooooo! Is he turning into a Hogan storyteller?! 😂
Sending cold Canadian love!
Broh, broh,broh... Bur
he always has been, Jake was spouting this trash nonsense on interviews in mid 2000s meanwhile Jims takes have stayed consistent
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@@kinggambino3698 Corny sticks to the facts. History backs him up. That's why guys like Jim are still relevant including Dutch and Eric. Guys like Jake, Hogan and others are just Dirt sheet mouthpieces.
Cold Canadian here also. Jake actually isn't lying he did help. Not as much as Jake says it but he did help these guys. He helped Austin come up with the 316
The Jerry Grey stories are the funniest in regards to Jake. His stuff on the 6:05 podcast was hilarious!
One of my life goals is that the mere mention of my name would garner the same reaction from Jim as Charlie from Starkville's name does.
Woah. That's a damn shoot video. Holy crap. Brutal. Love it
Say what you will, he was an excellent promo guy. He cut the best promos in the locker room during his run.
It’s amazing that the Godwins couldn’t tell him. No, we’re not stopping!!! 😂😂
That last line was amazing 🎉
Jake Roberts needs to lay off the “snake venom”
That pic is f'd up 🤣🤣🤣..I had to hear this
Jake might have meant that the 3 have credited him in some capacity. I know the Undertaker has, in several interviews. I think Austin has too, on his own podcast. I also don't know if calling Austin the "rattlesnake" was a nod to Jake, but it was there, just like the "Austin 3:16" Cornette mentions. Not sure about Michaels though...
00:25 “ ooh boy “ 😂
I remember Jim from the midnight express sweet Stan and beautiful Bobby epic battles with the rock and roll express thanks for the memories
I'm pretty sure Austin credits Jake with giving him.some safe advice and was a huge influence on him
Jake Roberts made his mark in the wrestling business!
Well I mean that promo did create austin 3:16
Sure. But as Jim argued, in the end the talent was what propelled him.
@@williamsmith666 no of course but with that promo it's so iconic I can see where Jake comes from. It was so good it could only work with Jake cause he was very religious. You even had michael Hayes was it? Feel like or even look like he was offended. The shawn michaels one yea that seems like a stretch to me
@@williamsmith666 yes. Austin and his talent were setting the world on fire as the Ringmaster
Cant hear Pink Floyd Comfortably Numb w/o thinking about corn callin jake and getting his answering machine lol
It was a plague-ridden HOME 6:43 🤣🤣🤣
Jake the Snake, also took credit for the empty bottle of thunderbird in the alley way by the arena as well.
I was waiting for this
Love the Member Berries! It speaks volumes to what he might not remember.
Jake was never the same after The Honky Tonk Man bashed his brains in.
Lol. He was exactly the same... albeit with a sore head.
That's debatable. He WAS a junkie psycho before then so who cares
Thumbnail is hilarious 🤣
well Austin even gave credit to Roberts for the start of Austin gimmick
Absolutely. Both guys are from Texas. You can see the Robert’s influence in everything Stone Cold did in the ring, and out of it. Wrestling and promos.
I think Jake has a point. I was growing up while these guys worked with Jake in various angles and they all picked up some psychology looking back… Jim is right too about these guys still making it to the top too but Jake was a one off talent who knew the business perfectly in a lot of ways
Jake is jealous of those 3 men since they were way bigger stars
I bet those Austin 3:16 shirts are still one of WWE best sellers.
Still selling like hot cakes. Dude is an American icon
Along with every variation thereof...
_"Crack cocaine's a helluva drug"_
THat last line!
In Mid-South Wrestling, one of Shawns first televised matches was against Jake. So he probably did mentor to an extent but exaggerates as most story tellers do
Michaels never worked Stampede.
@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma ahh you’re right it was Mid-South Wrestling. Thank you I’ll correct it
@@gatesofwrestling Would have been interesting if he had, maybe the whole Bret-Shawn mess starts a decade earlier.
@@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma well I don’t think so because they were actually buddies when they first got to know each other. It was later in the 90s shit went down cuz of the pressure on both men (especially while either one is world champion) caused by dropping ratings, and of course Shawn’s substance issues and ego that developed. If they would’ve met in stampede all those circumstances wouldn’t really be there. In my opinion
@@gatesofwrestling Yeah, true. Plus if you really think about it what caused the trouble was Vince for whatever reason letting Shawn do whatever the fuck he wanted, for the most part. That wouldn't have been an issue in a promotion owned by Bret's dad. Or anywhere else for that matter. Well, maybe AEW. Probably AEW.
0:04 Charlie in Starkville, MS
Whoever does these thumbnail images deserves a raise.
And Cornette made him the smokey mountain champion around this time.
More like Smokey Meth Mountain Champion
@@set1237 Smokey Meth Champion😂😂
Yeah he wasn't afraid to milk what he could out of Jake in Cornette's failed promotion. He was good enough then to use but now, over something that was probably taken out of context, they put down Jake for what a lot of wrestlers did and worse. Everybody is great when you can use them, but when they cant make money for you anymore they are no good losers. What an ugly business this is.
@@TheEWFX29 1994 and 1996 Jake aren't exactly the same. Jake had fallen much further down the spiral by '96.
@@TheEWFX29 Also, Jake no showed Smoky Mountain thus ending his run there.
Jake Roberts forget to tell thos sentence: Without him, there is no move called "DDT".
Jake clearly took some cues from Virgil...
Kickass art! 🤣
To the be Jake and Taker were good together back in 91
Brian really dropped the mike there at the end huh lmao
It's 2024 and jake still knows how to work a crowd 😂😂😂😂.
All from Texas
He was advertised before his entrance
Jake should just be grateful he is still alive
He can’t take credit for Austin because it is though he wrestled Austin the night he cut the 3:16 promo, it was the promo and not the match that made Austin. I don’t get Shawn Michaels either. But he definitely worked with the undertaker his first year so I will concede that he might’ve had a part in playing
If Jake’s earlier promo hadn’t mentioned the Bible and John 3:16 Austin wouldn’t have come up with Austin 3:16
Yes but without Jake then no promo
and he got the 316 from jake
I can’t even say anything negative or bash Jake the Snake… he’s a Legend in Wrestling. 🐍💪
FULL EPISODE!!!!! ther is so much going on... im almost interested enough to watch aew again.
“Plague ridden home at the Roberts House.”
Jake was lying his As* off to not go to work!🤣
6:03 when you gotta eat , you gotta eat Jimmy ol'boy !
Love the pee in the bottle 🤣
That part in which Jim said that the Godwinns having to make a stop at the crack house with Jake in the car, Hacksaw Jim Duggan said the same thing when he & Jake rode together back in the late 80's
Were there even crackhouses back in 1986? Even if there weren't Jake probably just had Hacksaw driving him around looking for some other kind of drugs.
I remember Mick Foley wrote in his first book Jake could find drugs in cities and countries that didn't have drugs.
Look, I don't know who's idea it was when Jake DDT'd Bearer, closed Taker's hand in the casket and gave him chair shot after chair shot as Taker kept rising, but that did a number on me as a child.
It made Taker 100% believable.
A lot of that was Jake’s ideas.
I love these illustrations. Jake looks like he gone out his mind on that yellow drank.
"Not the piss !!"
You gotta give Jake a little bit more credit than that. Jake's turned his life around for the better these days. In my opinion Jake is an all time great. Jake is the epitome example of it's not all about the back flips, and high spots these guys do these days. Jake always made the most out of his programs. As a kid his programs stick out in my subconscious mind more than most. Jake's contribution to this business is undeniable.
Didn’t he drink the piss after allegedly getting sober?
For sure man. Jake had a way that made people feel uneasy about him, came across as very authentic. Easily one of the best wrestlers of any era concerning his character
Going to church doesnt change decades of no showing and screwing over promotions.
Jake is a nasty human being, raised by another nasty human. Kids take care of your kids because they are on loan from God until he calls them back home
@@patrickboian8545 truly concerned for people that believe jake has redeemed himself
This thumbnail😂😂😂
That last line reminds me so much of when DDP goes into Jake The Snake's house in the redemption of Jake roberts, Jake offers him urine to drink.
For some reason I never put two and two together
Ten years ago when I interviewed Jake Roberts he took credit for "Austin 3:16" before saying it was supposed to expand to Austin's Commandments (which were awful)
Cornette just described a few ppl I know personally.... I know ppl who don't drive or have a license and rely on others to get them to and from
The Undertaker said it himself on the Broken Skulls podcast that Jake was essential in his character’s development. Austin wouldn’t have been hired. So yes. I’d say he was essential. Damn Corny. Jake has been clean for 13 years. Give it a rest.
Just Ruthless
I thought Jake was sober. Apparently he made a huge come back to the crack world
So they only read Charlie email
He's back on the sauce isn't he?
5:06 damn Jim