I think your first video was fair. People need to know what they are getting on its own especially since this series is for hobbyist modular types. Still not sold on this. This thing is the equivalent of the Minifooger pedals we pretend never happened.
Great demos, thank you. I don't see myself getting this anytime soon, though. The filters sound ok, especially as a guitar pedal it sounded good, but it doesn't exactly rock my boat. As a vocoder it sounds terrible, I haven't heard a single demo where the result is anything but barely audible, not even in the official Moog videos. Once I get bored of the sound of my Sound Studio 3, the filters might be worth it to find new sounds.
I think the Spectravox is made for experimentation. I am going to control at least 8 of the 10 Frequency Inputs with either an 8 stage shift register or an 8 stage analog shift register. I am still waiting for my vendor to get this in stock, so I will build the circuits while I wait. It might be really cool or it might sink, but I will not know until I try. The Spectravox should offer many ways to make recursive generative music and as it has an EG to amplitude, it can be midi synched, via something like a CV OCD.
The vocoder is is not as bad as it seems from this video. But it takes time to learn and adjust the program and carrier levels to avoid heavy distortion. Best results are achieved with a sawtooth chord carrier.
@@DoctorRevers It’s trash. Either you have one you need to flip, or you work for someone who has many they need to offload. 😉 Or maybe you’ve just never heard a decent vocoder before … 🤷🏻♂️
@@kierenmoore3236Is the issue that someone feels differently than you about something? I'm not planning on buying this one, and it doesn't matter to me if someone else does or doesn't, but I can't wrap my head around how that would make anyone upset. I figured you would be a good person to help me understand that thought process.
Great video, but I wish they had made these so it was possible to double the number of bands by combining two of them together. I guess that might infringe on the market for their £5000 16-band vocoder though. But I'm just speculating...
That’s probably the best pairing-the KORG Cheeselogue and the Moog Spectrajunk. Bought one and (quickly) returned it. The Mother 32 and DFAM are better buys in my opinion.
Even the Mavis (the synth with the redneck name) is a better buy. C’mon now, Mavis! In all seriousness, I own a Mother 32, DFAM, Subsequent 37, and a Minitaur; I ordered one of these and was completely underwhelmed. Hopefully the Labyrinth is a winner.
Obviously aimed at the modular folks where there are far more interesting alternatives. 4ms spectral resonator is not exactly the same thing, but the different capabilities and lower cost are attractive. If you have the coin Frap Tools or Verbos have MUCH higher quality builds for something like this.
I still think the Roland vocoders sound better! Could’ve saved yourself some money dude bought some guitar pedals or one guitar pedal that does a whole bunch of stuff. You always do great videos though thank you.
@@Tiger.Arcade Check out Chase Bliss Onward. Not sure if you know the backstory of CooperFX owner going to work for them but it’s his new version of Outward under their brand. As an Outward owner highly recommended. Works well with euros and modular etc.
It is *a piece of gear* for sure, but I'm not in a huge rush to pick it up. I have the Sound Studio 3 with a 4 tier rack. I have one slot left - I'll hold till the Labrynth becomes available. Either way, both pieces are Behringer's next two clones.
@asynchronicity Perhaps. Time will tell. I'm of the opinion that if it's part of the Moog Sound Studio lineup, Behringer will do it. This on top of the fact that Behringer has already cloned the Fixed Filterbank for the System 55 I don't think this (nor the Labrynth) is beyond their reach. That said, if given the choice between the Labrynth or a clone by Behringer, I'd still pick the Labrynth. Either way, the Spectrovox is something I might pick up way, way down the road on the used market.
@@SpaceCapsuleOne of course it isn't beyond their reach. But would it really be profitable at all? I highly doubt that. We will find out soon enough though!
The top two bands weren’t turned up when you were using the vocoder. That probably affected the intelligibility, not that it’s very good as a vocoder anyway. It’s more interesting as a filter bank. Have you use it with the Matriarch yet?
When the top two bands are up too high there is wayyyy too much hiss so I dialed them back to make it more intelligible. I have also used it with the matriarch and it sounds great. Difficult getting the chords how I want them sometimes since it’s paraphonic.
Not a very inspiring box of tricks . I was hoping someone would demo it with a Bass Guitar ,to see if it would surprise me . Thanks for using guitar though to confirm it's not for me . I have the moog grandmother , dfam and minitaur. I was going to get sound studio but I'll stick with what I have moog wise . Regarding analogue effects , I'm using the Boss ME8-B which works fantastically well with the minitaur ,and tbh blows this out of the water ..only imho of course . The drum machine sounds weak in this demo also . Good that you tried it though.
The white noise that pops in when using the vocoder sounds like shit. As a filter bank this is cool, but it's like they didn't even try with the vocoder
I cancelled my order. Trying to break the GAS cycle and learn the gear I already have. Already got audio processors Such as (clones of the) pultec EQ, neve 1073 EQ, SSL fusion and bus+, Drawmer 1970, 1973, 1974 and 1976. Also strymon big sky, möbius, timeline and el capistan. Got moogerfooger plugins already.
@@Phil-uh7knI had an issue where the LFO can always be heard no matter what mode I was in. It was very faint but could still be heard cycling. The vocoder jack was cheap plastic and would cut in and out if the cable was barely touched. I was also disappointed in changes such as no printed manual and the cheaper build quality than previous Moog products.
@@kierenmoore3236 I think this is a good example of the biggest problems-- people don't get what this thing actually is. It is a Spectral Processor that can be used as a vocoder, but it isn't just a vocoder. How well do the "'good" vocoders do at all the other things a Spectral Processor can do? If all you want is robot voices, Spectravox may not be what you want...
this is such a stupid fucking take that I can't believe I am bothering to respond to it. It is functionally and demonstratively the same as the version from Moog-fest (minus the change from faders to pots and the addition of the cv control/out jacks), in what way is it not a Moog product? Because the boards previously built oversees were then assembled oversees instead of in Ashville? Ridiculous.
Great demo! 👍
I think your first video was fair. People need to know what they are getting on its own especially since this series is for hobbyist modular types.
Still not sold on this. This thing is the equivalent of the Minifooger pedals we pretend never happened.
"nothing gets old faster than a new sound"
Pretty sure the Labyrinth was conceptualised (though obvious never manufactured in any form, Moogfest or otherwise) before the buyout.
Definitely. As we see with the Spectravox, these things are in development for a few years before they hit the market.
Bought it love it keeping it
Such a cool filterbank with interesting other bits.
Great demos, thank you. I don't see myself getting this anytime soon, though. The filters sound ok, especially as a guitar pedal it sounded good, but it doesn't exactly rock my boat. As a vocoder it sounds terrible, I haven't heard a single demo where the result is anything but barely audible, not even in the official Moog videos. Once I get bored of the sound of my Sound Studio 3, the filters might be worth it to find new sounds.
I think the Spectravox is made for experimentation.
I am going to control at least 8 of the 10 Frequency Inputs with either an 8 stage shift register or an 8 stage analog shift register.
I am still waiting for my vendor to get this in stock, so I will build the circuits while I wait.
It might be really cool or it might sink, but I will not know until I try.
The Spectravox should offer many ways to make recursive generative music and as it has an EG to amplitude, it can be midi synched,
via something like a CV OCD.
The vocoder is is not as bad as it seems from this video. But it takes time to learn and adjust the program and carrier levels to avoid heavy distortion. Best results are achieved with a sawtooth chord carrier.
Have you tried 🎤 ing up an acoustic guitar? I bet (based on what I've heard so far) it would sound very interesting. Using the vocorder
Are as far as vocoders go I don’t like the sound. It sound like if a vocoder was broken or making a lot of bad unwanted noise
It’s analog with 10 bands
@@DoctorRevers It’s trash. Either you have one you need to flip, or you work for someone who has many they need to offload. 😉 Or maybe you’ve just never heard a decent vocoder before … 🤷🏻♂️
@@DoctorRevers So what?! Use your ears … starting to look like yours are made of cloth …
I know people will complain about the vocoder quality but I think its super lofi analog lack of clarity has a great vibe.
lol, OK then …
@@kierenmoore3236Is the issue that someone feels differently than you about something? I'm not planning on buying this one, and it doesn't matter to me if someone else does or doesn't, but I can't wrap my head around how that would make anyone upset. I figured you would be a good person to help me understand that thought process.
@@dc9662
No it's just hilarious considering that it's such a obviously unusable sound.
@@greenvelvetObviously unusable? That's a really interesting opinion. How so?
Great video, but I wish they had made these so it was possible to double the number of bands by combining two of them together. I guess that might infringe on the market for their £5000 16-band vocoder though. But I'm just speculating...
That’s probably the best pairing-the KORG Cheeselogue and the Moog Spectrajunk.
Bought one and (quickly) returned it.
The Mother 32 and DFAM are better buys in my opinion.
Even the Mavis (the synth with the redneck name) is a better buy.
C’mon now, Mavis!
In all seriousness, I own a Mother 32, DFAM, Subsequent 37, and a Minitaur; I ordered one of these and was completely underwhelmed.
Hopefully the Labyrinth is a winner.
*I returned mine as well 🤫
Obviously aimed at the modular folks where there are far more interesting alternatives. 4ms spectral resonator is not exactly the same thing, but the different capabilities and lower cost are attractive. If you have the coin Frap Tools or Verbos have MUCH higher quality builds for something like this.
Good stuff. Yeah lots of possibilities. The guitar effects sound pretty good. Hope you have fun with it.
I still think the Roland vocoders sound better!
Could’ve saved yourself some money dude bought some guitar pedals or one guitar pedal that does a whole bunch of stuff.
You always do great videos though thank you.
Any recommendations on a cool guitar pedal? 😅
@@Tiger.Arcade Electro-Harmonix Oceans 12 Dual Stereo Reverb Pedal
It’s not just reverb
@@Tiger.Arcade Check out Chase Bliss Onward. Not sure if you know the backstory of CooperFX owner going to work for them but it’s his new version of Outward under their brand. As an Outward owner highly recommended. Works well with euros and modular etc.
It is *a piece of gear* for sure, but I'm not in a huge rush to pick it up. I have the Sound Studio 3 with a 4 tier rack. I have one slot left - I'll hold till the Labrynth becomes available. Either way, both pieces are Behringer's next two clones.
Behringer won’t be cloning this. It’s too complex and niche…wouldn’t be worth it.
@asynchronicity Perhaps. Time will tell. I'm of the opinion that if it's part of the Moog Sound Studio lineup, Behringer will do it. This on top of the fact that Behringer has already cloned the Fixed Filterbank for the System 55 I don't think this (nor the Labrynth) is beyond their reach. That said, if given the choice between the Labrynth or a clone by Behringer, I'd still pick the Labrynth. Either way, the Spectrovox is something I might pick up way, way down the road on the used market.
@@SpaceCapsuleOne of course it isn't beyond their reach. But would it really be profitable at all? I highly doubt that. We will find out soon enough though!
The top two bands weren’t turned up when you were using the vocoder. That probably affected the intelligibility, not that it’s very good as a vocoder anyway. It’s more interesting as a filter bank. Have you use it with the Matriarch yet?
When the top two bands are up too high there is wayyyy too much hiss so I dialed them back to make it more intelligible. I have also used it with the matriarch and it sounds great. Difficult getting the chords how I want them sometimes since it’s paraphonic.
thought it might go nicely with the keystep pro and dfam for complex melodies but im still not sure its worth price
This one is hard to justify, imho.
Not a very inspiring box of tricks . I was hoping someone would demo it with a Bass Guitar ,to see if it would surprise me . Thanks for using guitar though to confirm it's not for me . I have the moog grandmother , dfam and minitaur. I was going to get sound studio but I'll stick with what I have moog wise . Regarding analogue effects , I'm using the Boss ME8-B which works fantastically well with the minitaur ,and tbh blows this out of the water ..only imho of course . The drum machine sounds weak in this demo also . Good that you tried it though.
The white noise that pops in when using the vocoder sounds like shit. As a filter bank this is cool, but it's like they didn't even try with the vocoder
I cancelled my order. Trying to break the GAS cycle and learn the gear I already have. Already got audio processors Such as (clones of the) pultec EQ, neve 1073 EQ, SSL fusion and bus+, Drawmer 1970, 1973, 1974 and 1976. Also strymon big sky, möbius, timeline and el capistan. Got moogerfooger plugins already.
It’s fantastic. Best bit of new kit I’ve bought in years.
Bought it. Don’t like it. Returning it.
If you dont mind me asking what did you not like about it?
It’s fucking fantastic!? I can’t believe you don’t like it. I’m getting some incredible results.
@@Phil-uh7knI had an issue where the LFO can always be heard no matter what mode I was in. It was very faint but could still be heard cycling. The vocoder jack was cheap plastic and would cut in and out if the cable was barely touched. I was also disappointed in changes such as no printed manual and the cheaper build quality than previous Moog products.
@@final_mile_music9713I’m glad you like yours. My experience was not positive.
Same issue here.
It sounds bad.
Thanks for saving me money.
You might want to flip it, quick.
It sounds amazing actually. Guess people like different things.
@@DoctorRevers “ackshually”, lol. You can’t have used any decent vocoders, let alone good ones …
@@kierenmoore3236 this isn’t being sold as a vocoder. You can use it like one though.
@@kierenmoore3236 I think this is a good example of the biggest problems-- people don't get what this thing actually is. It is a Spectral Processor that can be used as a vocoder, but it isn't just a vocoder. How well do the "'good" vocoders do at all the other things a Spectral Processor can do? If all you want is robot voices, Spectravox may not be what you want...
And it sounds terrible as a vocoder.
I like your demo. What I dont like is the Spectravox. Not worth 600 dollars or worst 700 euros.
This is not a Moog product. It's dogs-t. remember your first instinct. I hope you come to your ethical senses and return it.
there's nothing quite like being lectured at by strangers on ethics
this is such a stupid fucking take that I can't believe I am bothering to respond to it. It is functionally and demonstratively the same as the version from Moog-fest (minus the change from faders to pots and the addition of the cv control/out jacks), in what way is it not a Moog product? Because the boards previously built oversees were then assembled oversees instead of in Ashville? Ridiculous.
@@rocl420 By someone too lazy to actually come up with a username no less!
@@WithTheGrain Enjoy your sellout synth brother. I will enjoy mine made in Asheville.