DON'T GET A BARITONE GUITAR! HERE'S WHY
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In this video, we talk about why you SHOULD NOT get a baritone guitar!
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As an electrician and a guitar player, I can fully confirm Phillips head screwdriver can be used as a hammer. Also a chisel, door stop and if it’s bouncy enough you can hop it off the ground and make it jump back into your hand.
you've foiled my whole analogy hahah :P
You can jump relays to test them with as Philips head, and use them to pick dandelions. The door stop was beautiful! Funny comment!!
I am also an electrician and a guitar player and i approve this message.
@@JimAndersson I am still planning on buying a baritone, it’s just that solar x-type is around the corner and I’m holding out.
@@jessecommins4499 Haha yeah baritones are awesome! I just felt the urge to underscore the versatility of the PH2 😂 happy new year 🎉
Been playing baritones for a few years now, glad to see they are gaining popularity, hope this means more models from more companies!
Agile is jumping on that baritone trend as well! Be sure to check them out! I have one coming in in two weeks
Your delusional. Baritones are boring as fck! Everyone plays the same riffs.
@@garaheet2931 I keep an eye on gear4music all the time, just don’t care for the style of what they are building now, they had some back in the day that were great at least on paper
@@lowtunedg9211 you don't like the super strats or what is it that you don't like about the new ones?
@@garaheet2931 it’s the colors mostly, don’t mind super strats at all
For most of my guitar-playing life, I really enjoyed playing, but never really felt like I was finding my voice. Once I was turned on to baritones, I felt like I had finally found it, and I've never been so creatively inspired.
Honestly I’ve just experienced this. Tried out a Bass VI, and idk what it was that clicked but I was improvising riffs I’ve never played around with before. It’s a great feeling
I felt similarly with drums had struggled to barely learn anything on guitar for so long then started playing drums and it all juat clicked and then I just started thinking of guitar similar to drums and got better at that too but drums are just the highest level of therapy for me its nice when you find your thing :b but yeah I enjoy playing bass aswell has a more percussive feel so I figured a baritone would be similar to kinda mix in some slap with some guitar feel still mostly because of tosin abasi not that he uses a baritone that ive seen
I have ltd ec 1000 baritone. Ur I need to play it in
C
G
D#
A#
F
A#
Recommendation on set up and string gauge?
This is actually a really good vid, helps folks better understand what drawbacks there are. Though, funnily enough, I've actually seen a number of folks use baritones because of that first point, the higher tunings. In editing, you showed Buckethead, who uses a 27-28" baritone (can't remember the exact specs) and yet, I don't know of any songs he's made that are tuned lower than Eb standard. Similarly, Trogly has mentioned liking the increased string tension using baritones in E standard provides as well, and an old friend of mine, uses a 30" baritone, only tuned to drop A, which you'd usually expect to be seeing on like, ~26.5" guitars, give or take an inch
I think Buckethead has made a few songs in Bb standard (I know Final Wars is in that tuning but there are probably some more out there considering that guy has like 300 albums)
Bucket's signature Les Paul is a 27", just for reference. I'm not sure about the Jackson V he plays but it's probably the same
Buckethead had his guitar built bigger for him. Everything about it is oversized due to him being so tall.
@@Peavey02 I shook his hand once, it was MASSIVE.
Harpoon the Goon is in B standard.
Nothing better than honesty, when something is a content creator’s bread and butter like this it’s not often you see them express the downsides.
I’m considering getting a baritone, and oddly enough, this video reinforced my desire for one.
really refreshing to see someone who's able to point out why something he loves isn't for everyone. I respect the hell outta that. when I was getting into guitar years ago, Korn was the biggest thing in heavy music, and 7 strings were catching on. Meshuggah and baroness
baritones were nowhere on my radar yet, but as I got more into playing, I just decided that for all the ridiculous amount of options out there, I prefer sticking to six strings and either standard tuning or maybe half step or step down. Generally half step. While I adore Dime's guitars, the ML shape in general, Vs, and of late, even the classic Gibson LPs and SGs that I've never really felt drawn to, I realized a couple years ago that I'm just a strat guy at heart, complete with traditional single coils, and still love playing ballsy, heavy stuff. 🤷♂️
For me, 26.5 or 27” scale 6s are perfect. I play 7s mostly, but my 6s are in drop b. So that extra little bit of scale past 25.5 is perfect even if u still want to play leads in drop b. Or drop A even. Now going as low as 8 string tuning, In f# or lower, I’d prob look into something like Ray has or just get an 8 that way you can hit 2 birds with one stone.
That was super helpful for me...Thanks very much!
Real nice summation of the pros & cons of baritones! Buckethead is is 6’6” w enormous hands & long tarantula fingers, so his baritone Sig GLP fits him perfectly.
I love my baritone and I play everything with it, blues, rock heavy stuff... and also play solos with this wonderful instrument. I just love the tones and a baritone is always inspiring me. It is just a matter of taste if you like it or not. There are so many options to play guitars. Don't stop trying out other ways, maybe you find something really wonderful that makes you happy.
I think baritones are also very different to play than 8 strings. Easier in some ways (less to keep track of in terms of what string you're hitting), but harder in others (you really gotta stretch those fingers to hit the frets you want!).
I recently got into a Gretsch baritone. Since 7 strings weren’t for me. Much like your opinion.
Totally agree that it is definitely for a specific sound. Especially with the low output pickups I found that it sounds good with fuzz and overdrive to over saturate and tighten the sound all at the same time. Then have a hard gate on to help tighten further and get a more modern tone out of it.
Takes some tweaking and getting used to but definitely worth it.
I found that my schecter that’s 24.75 is best for e flat and drop C#
Got an Ibanez rgd that’s 26.5 for drop C
And the Gretsch 29.75 for drop G but I want to go to F. Because of your video on it.
I do disagree with the “baritone guitars are very limiting/limited in their capabilities” statement though. A baritone could essentially do anything a normal, standard scale 6 string could do. Baritone guitars also come in 7 and 8 strings, meaning you can absolutely shred like Animals As Leaders, ERRA, etc. A guitar isn’t limited by its scale length, so that’s one thing I’d avoid implying as that could wrongly sway someone away from a baritone they might love! Still great comments on this topic!
Preach brother
Absolutely. A guitar is limited by its player, through and through
Agree. I have a 6 string baritone but I tune it in 5ths, and the range is great!
I think if a person likes the heavy tone of low tunnings get a baritone. Better to have a baritone than to have to downtune and go to a luthier to set your guitar up for low tunnings.....
Uuuuhhh. But if you meet the #1 category (ie use standard tunings and such) the tension on the strings of a baritone tuned to standard would be insanely tight. Perhaps too tight to be effective. Is he wrong about that downside?
I use 7 strings in drop A
I've set up my HX stomp with a pitch shifter so I never have to change the string tunings. All drop tunings, and all standard tunings are there
I use my 24 3/4" LTD EC for drop A with the D'Addario light baritone strings. It's perfect.
D'Addario medium baritone strings for standard A and drop G.
Zero intonation issues Lol!
@@EXSENTRIX mine is a Schecter KM7 MKIII artist (26.5" scale)
I've used daddario on and off but I seem to always go back to elixir (9s with a .62 for the low string). Daddario are great
@@LeeJoRo Hell yeah man!🤘🏼💀
Here’s a question I’ve had for almost a year now…….I’m saving up to get the Solar ex1.6op 27” scale but I predominantly play in drop C and drop B. Should I still get this baritone guitar at only 27 inches for that? Reason for is because most explorer shaped guitars come in 24.75inch scale length and that’s just too short for me to be tuned that low. The strings become floppy and the tuning doesn’t stay “tuned” very well for very long. Would a 27” baritone be good for drop C&B in regards to holding better tension and tuning???? P.s. I prefer drop C over anything so this is what I’ll mainly be tuned to. I play very fast and incorporate a lot of gallops. I tend to sound and play like Vogg from Decapitated style riffs, so you can see why I want the ultimate string tension. Thanks for your time🤘🏻
*25.5”scale, 6-string* is the most versatile for me. From E-standard to B-standard, it can nail them all with the right strings/setup (Drop-A seems like the low-limit).
Best 💥 for your 💵 if your playing-styles fall in this tuning-range (anything lower, get a baritone).
Stay frosty, Ray 🤘🏼
??? @Ray, I always see people say this exact thing (see comment above ☝🏻) Can you show us how to setup a 25.5” with the “right” strings to let us see how to get a guitar that can drop lower? I’ve heard different responses as to what the “right” strings are and nobody ever shows how to set the action for that either.
It would be a helpful vid if you could demo both as a follow up to this vid + show us what people typically do wrong (like trying to use the “wrong” strings or setting the action wrong) so we can see the difference. You’re probably the best guy to show us how to convert a 25.5” to drop lower. It’s probably better for most people than buying a baritone.
I’d also love for you to make a vid that shows how you physical play differently when you’re using baritones. Riff playing on a regular guitar looks pretty different - seems like you’re positioning your fingers differently on the longer scale. A cool lesson or two to get people started would be great. This playing style also may not be for everyone. It looks like you have to learn to stretch your fingers farther and/or move them faster to cover the longer distance lol.
Thanks Ray!
@@MashaT22 you can't get your guitar properly intonated all the way up the neck if you tune lower than your scale length allows. Even if your saddle can move back there's still a set distance from the nut to 12th fret. Check out The Bunn's vids for all of the niche answers on baritones.
@@HansyPants184 Yes you can with the proper string gauge. Bunn's channel is exclusively for baritone. He's not going to tell you what string gauge to use on standard scale lenthed guitars. He uses baritones not only for down tuning but to have the most clarity while tuned down. He's not a fan of bridge cable sized strings lol.
@@EXSENTRIX That's not true. I've got a 26.5" 7 string that I ran in G standard for a while with a 74 on the low string. The string tension was always fine. That's the easy one to solve with a thicker string but you have to pick and choose where your notes will be in tune. It's fine if you're only playing the first 5 frets but you can only get some not all of your frets properly intonated properly up the length of the neck. G at 12 was physically impossible to get perfectly intonated without a longer scale length. You can get close to intonating it properly but you can't get down that low without sacrificing some of your neck having improper intonation on your lowest string. Try it out and let me know how it goes.
@@HansyPants184 Idk man. I don't have those problems.
Awesome video man, really informative!
thanks for the informational video, i needed more details and you went over them so thanks bro
Thanks for the honest review. It is great that you are doing a reality check. As a metal guy who likes comedy love how quick to smile you are. Makes you more believable and ultimately cool. Dont forget that the surf genre was built on these things back in the 50s and early 60s. As a rhythm guitarists who loves the sludge metal riffs you have me sold. Thanks again!!!
So would a baritone 7 be good for drop g/drop a ? I ended up with an 8 string the other day since that was the only extended range near me. I’m talking about 27” baritone. Thanks and sorry for the confusing wording😂
Baritone layered with standard = pure awesome.
Deffinately more a riff machine like you said but by eck when you nail a solo on one they sound frickin sweeeeeeet :)
Another baritone player here, would definitely agree with the somewhat limiting statement. I love my baritone and the sound I've developed using it, but i definitely did have to change the way I write and play a little bit. For the better in the end I think but there were definitely adjustments that needed to be made
Appreciate the input man!
You do a wonderful VID. Very presentable. Keep it going!
Really good video, very clear information!
Super helpful! Thanks dude!
Hey ray, I want your opinion, I want a baritone guitar purely to be versatile, I remember the first baritone guitar I ever sat down and played that being my dads Robb Flynn Epiphone Flying V but I have a squire Jazzmaster HH and i want to do a partscaztwr style baritone, like the Player plus Strat you have, I want to put on a fender sub Sonic Strat neck and a new Pickguard with a Fishman modem Humbucker
Most 8 strings are also baritones. By necessity.
The metal baritone thing is kind of an offshoot from the 8/9 string thing nowadays, where people have realized they don't really need the range at all. I have an 8, but I have always had and always loved pure baritones. And honestly I may love it more
8 strings and baritone? That must be something like double drop c?
@@abdullahkuzhan7247I’m pretty sure he’s talking about the fact a 8 string is basically a baritone because they usually have a 27” or 28” scale which is, by definition, a baritone scale length
Solid video! I've wanted a baritone since I first heard machine head, but this gave me some things to think about!
Thx this helped me a lot!
Freaking awesome video! Thanks dude!!
im trying to get into a baritone guitar starting from a 5 string bass i always prefered those lowered frequencies way more would y’all recommend?
Something that keeps me away from them is my use of a lead 7 string player. Mainly because of the fact that I started on extended range instruments with a cheap 25.5” scale length instrument. Baratones look sick and I want one but as a lead guitarist fair enough, not going to use it that much. Also 30” is the scale of 3/4 basses so it’s huge
Where do you get strings for the 30 inch scale? I cant seem to find the right ones,even when they state baritone
I'm planning to get a 27" for a range of C standard down to Drop A# - does that make sense?
I dont think I can deal with something as long as 29-30 but I’ve definitely found my happy place with 7 strings ranging from 26.5 to 27.5 inches. Leads are a little harder but the tension on lower strings makes it so worth it
What model bari is that you have in the vid? I'm really digging the look.
Ray, I’m a shredder. I do 10-52 on a 25.5 scale is Drop D.
My new band I joined plays Drop A#.
I’m trying not to fork out the money for a whole a** guitar for just this new band that may or may not work out.
Any string gauges you would recommend?
As someone new to playing would you recommend a baritone.
I can only justify getting 1 guitar atm, but they definitely produce the sound and type of music I want to play.
Should I play it safe and buy a more standard guitar, or go for "the deep end" and a baritone.
I love how you are one of the few guys on TH-cam that doesn't claim to be something you're now. Respect!
I'm going to need to tone it down on guitar spending for a while after my guitars are upgraded. But I'm fascinated by these. Does Squire make one?
Can you check out the LTD BS-7?
I want your opinion on it as a shredding guitar because they are offering me one but I was undecided since I saw it was a baritone but I think is 26.5 length so idk can you give me ur opinion on it?
I was considering getting a dunable yeti baritone, because i really like lowtuned stuff. now that dunable does not take orders any more, i got the idea to dust off my old SG and work with that. I put some heavy strings on it (11-60) and tuned it down to drop b. sounds great and gives me some new inspiration! don't like the very long neck of baritones much anyway, feels a bit like playing chords on a bass
Great vid - thanks. Considering the new PRS...
What is the make of the baritone you’re holding?
Hey Ray ,Is there going to be more content with your built baritone Stratocaster? I love that guitar and would love to hear it some more.
So my 25.5 scale 7 string tuned to drop a can’t be totally drop a cuz it’s not atleast 27 scale?
I appreciate your opinions, thanks for saving me money!
I've been looking for a baritone for months and cant find any I like, they're like goldust right now.
What's the model of the one in the video!?
so, if I play b standard, you think I can get away with a normal les paul? what strings would I use?
It'll be sloppy sounding.
2:00 Can a baritone guitar be tuned to drop C or C#? or do modifications needs to be done to it? Depends on the type of strings and the set up thats being done to it.
They certainly can, if Wes Borland of limp Bizkit can tune a 7 string to c# standard, you can defo do that
I have an Ibanez 28” scale baritone. It’s the newer iron label. I absolutely love it man, I use it for low tunings and riffs.
What's closer to a seven string baratone a normal 7 string or a 6 string baratone ?
I recently got a squier cabronita baritone and I was curious of what was the lowest tuning I can get away with and what string gauge to use for specific tunings?
All of that is very subjective. The scale length would help to determine how low you can go. But string gauges are just personal preference… I’d say go as light as you can get away with.
I own a Baritone just to have one around. I don't play it often but enjoy the hell out of it every time I do.
Question for ya, when you were play with that band( no name) a few weeks back. You were rocking your Bari, what was the other guitarist using and what tuning were you in?
Anything wrong with using a capo when you want standard guitar tuning?
what is the music in the background?
Mark Lettieri does some really cool funk stuff with a baritone, look up "Gigantactis". Stuff is sick
Can you tune up to Drop C on a barritone? Thanks
Baritone is perfect for me as I prefer rythmn mostly. The only lead playing stuff I am planning on writing in the future would be like weird sounds or stuff that would not need the extra string. My favourite tuning is drop A as for one reason without the low A string the other strings are tuned almost like a lute where the 3rd string is tuned f# or with low A's case the 2nd string. I like medieval music so adding some lute chords or little lead sections would be cool. I've got plans for writing an EP and hopefully 1 or 2 concept albums based on the witcher.
Been using a chapman bea baritone in Ab for a while now and love it. It’s a 28” scale, which takes some getting used to, but really is a nice guitar to play
Played one along time ago and I loved it. Costed an arm and a leg during that time. Now that I am able to get one, I can’t find a decent one without it being a seven string. I found a les Paul style one from 10s and a super shredder from Harley Benton (these are the only baritones that I can find that are left handed).
hey! this was great. I'm also obsessed with baritones. I have one 6 in drop F and one 7 in drop D#1
Had a Chapman ml7t. Bought it cheap from a local pawn shop. Didn't jive with it. Traded in for PRS 277. Feels right at home. A few upgrades, now it's awesome.
Keep it up Ray.
Yeah man. Got myself a baritone a bit over a year ago. I think drop B and lower suits mine, but I also put the Tosin Fishmans in mine (highly!!! recommend for baritone and lower register tunes).
The higher frets are a bit of a "ring-in" situation with the baritone, so don't stress about 22 Vs 24 fret (if it's even an option). It all sounds like arse after the 14th fret.
...but that timbre in the tone... Hot diggity!
Just got myself the DV-77s too. All of this is bliss...
Hey man I got my first guitar like a month ago it's a Ibanez grg 130 dx I think is red and black I got it for 250 and idk how to take it to a drop c or a c standard plus I still have the stock strings but iam wanting to play some static-x songs from Wayne statics older albums and I plan on buying a ltd ex baritone for his music and for his last album he made before he passed away is pighammer he played that album in a sharp with a dean ML MODIFIER
Off topic: I watched an older video of yours and noticed tattoos on your arms. If you don't mind me asking, what made you cover them up with solid black ink?
I love e standard tuning. The bass can breathe. Lower tunings squelch that frequency a lot. But hey. I also love meshuggah
With the right equalization, E standard could sound heavy.
Bassist of Meshuggah actually tunes up to F from E to be in unison with the guitarists.
Been playing leads on baritone guitar since the 60s in the country music world.
Love your content
How's it compare as a bass player?
Dude. I like your videos. I play in drop C and drop B. Do i need a baritone?
Yo that 7 string you flashed a shot of, that's my (well like my) multiscale ibanez 7 with the Aurora Burst finish and Fishmans in it! I love it , its super sick!
Very helpful thanks :)
thank you, great video.
Ray, you may have just helped me make up my mind about something. I have been considering getting either a baritone guitar or a 7-string. I don't think baritone would like my fingers very well. I'm not sure I agree that baritone guitar is limited, but I can get a 7-string for a somewhat lower price than pretty much any baritone. There is the problem of my small hands, though ...
I love my Epiphone Les Paul Gothic Baritone that I got about 2 decades ago, still play it almost everyday.
1st and foremost exceptional video and channel… I dig your riffing and the force is strong with you…!!! As a Die Hard Metal Head/veteran - Metal/industrial Vocalist I’d collab with you in a heart beat or share a stage without hesitation… so salute…!!! 🎸 As a studio owner, Audio engineer, composer, sound designer, multi instrumentalist, multi genre producer and a multi genre recording artist I’ve always added as many types of guitars, basses, amps, synths etc as I could… however as a performer or a musician in the most stripped down sense I felt a new sense of comfort playing both my 30 inch scale baritone I purchased as a random act/reward… (it was last year as I had a 28 inch Squire baritone that I hadn’t recorded or gigged with)… I find as a musician it comes down at times with connecting with a specific instrument or having any axe (guitar or bass) setup to your tastes or to your comfort… i personal find baritones are enjoyable but not just for metal as I’m not only into Metal but now is referred to as shoegaze, Goth, etc so 80s bands used baritones often in a very different way than metal musicians or even music of much older eras so I find the possibilities only limited by my creativity… but I enjoy your channel because you make your point so very easy to comprehend, it is very helpful and I agree on your perspective 100% and some points resonate very much so… (certain guitar necks are specifically designed for shredding or lead players… kudos…A+++)
What kind of baritone guitar is that?
I use baritone (27) in standard B (strings EXL158) and I like chug on low strings and play tapping solos on high strings(my opinion).But I want to try 25.5 scale on standard b tuning after this video thank you for your opinion. Keep it up Ray.
All 3 of my Epiphone Les Paul's are set up for B standard tuning and I use 72-13's on those. I own a Schecter baritone and it's great but I prefer the shorter neck and heavy string gauge.
Good video I love my 7 and my back up is a ltd viper regular scale tuned to B Flat like my 7
To each their own, but I love my 27" and 26-28" in standard. It sounds brighter and clearer and just better. For D standard, I have 28 5/8" and 29 3/4". I know most people don't like feel of them. Years ago, I went down the "how low can I go road," and sought out the longest scale guitars I could find at the time, then gradually tuned them back up. Everything just sounds so much more articulate to me with longer scales.
I just recently purchased an Agile Legacy Plus 627, but it won't be shipped for another 2 weeks. I am kind of stuck with my style of playing at the moment too. I have a Schecter Hellraiser Hybrid PT-7 and that thing is amazing! The only thing is that I feel like I don't play 7 strings as much as i used to. 6 strings feels more comfortable for me as well. I guess I will see how I feel as time goes on!
Hey there buddy, is there a way to contact you directly? I see youre interested in seeing more Baritones on the market and would like to talk with you 😀
So you're playing a 6 string short scale bass? I myself are looking to get a 7 string fanned fret.
Ive been on the fence about getting a baritone. Cuz I have a weird tuning. CGDGCD and I use a 7 string set of strings not using the low E string. But I didn't know how a baritone would handle the high strings still being tuned so high. I would like to try a multi-scale but don't really want a seven string.
Instead of getting a baritone, I just got a drop pedal. I’m also not in a band or performing live music. I just have in my room. my drop pedal is plenty for me.
My 25.5 scale guitar can handle Drop G# better than I expected it to but I've been eyeing the Solar V baritone (26.5 scale) and I'm in a dilemma if I shoud pull the trigger or not. This video came at a right time to give me further thoughts about it.
What make of baritone is the one he's holding in the video? He refuses to show the headstock?
For me, baritones are also great for upper fret access, i have big fingers and everything over the 15 fret on a 25.5 seems too small. i have a 26.5 7 string and the 24 fret is barely playable. On my 34 inch bass, i find the 24th extremely easier to play than on a guitar. My next guitar will surely be a 30inch.
Baritone guitar began in the fifty's as a country western guitar
Cool video! Your comment on the scale length for lead playing, when you say “the longer scale length makes this a riff machine”. I totally understand what you mean, but the actual “point” of the longer scale length is specifically for tension. Huge strings on a small scale can feel horrible tension wise, so longer scale length allows you to compensate with smaller string gauges for tunings in general!
I was hoping you would tell me your opinion, based on your experience. The reasons I am interested in playing a baritone are as follows.
The first one is that I have very large hands. One size fits all gloves never fit me and even sometimes XL gloves don't well fit either. Also, I really like chord shapes that require the cramming of my fingers into tight spaces on most guitars (Ex. try a B min. 9th chord at the nut position), and I struggle to play cleanly at any sort of speed. To give you a better idea of what I mean, if I try to play an A major chord at the nut and I place my fingers in their natural order, my fingers don't fit side by side without hitting the A or high E strings and my pointer finger has to be back from the fret to make room for my middle finger, which means I have to really squeeze down to not get annoying fret buzz. I also like arpeggios, which also are easier to execute on a wider neck guitar I found, after comparing a friend's Fender to my Washburn. Lastly, I like to sing, but I have a baritone vocal range, as opposed to tenors who typically sing against standard tuning. I find what I can play for rhythm accompaniment in the lower register, a bit limiting on a standard guitar. Here is the caveat though, I am not a metal player or a country player, but I do appreciate the forms. I have written a country-ish song, but not into doing it exclusively.
I basically consider metal to be classical with an attitude, mixed with a few other forms, mainly blues and punk. I was wondering if I strung a baritone with the thinnest strings that a baritone guitar would accommodate reasonably, even if I had to change the nut, could it be tuned a bit higher than normal and how would it play? Perhaps you are unable to imagine or relate, as someone who is largely into metal and playing rhythm riffs. I am thinking the frets are perhaps a bit thicker and taller, to accommodate a string that is typically looser and vibrating more freely, than that of standard guitars, which in turn would make playing chord shapes more common to jazz or classical a bit laborious? I thought about trying a George Benson model Ibanez, since it is rather wide or a copy of Reb Beach model Ibanez, and simply tune them down to D or E flat standard, but both are rather pricey. I am searching for a cheaper alternative.
i started playing mainly drop C for years. then i bought a 7 string to play B standard as Amon Amarth is my favorite band and i wanted to write some similar sounding music. i realized i never played the thinnest string and i was having troubles with chord stretching from the wider neck ,so sold the 7 string then bought a baritone. time went by and i started getting heavily into writing with drop B for metalcore inspired riffs .it turned out i didn't need the baritone as you state ray i randomly tuned my regular 6 to drop B and it held tune really well . at that moment i realized i wasted money on the baritone so ended up getting ride of it and have been happily playing drop B and B standard on my 6 string guitars ever since. that was an expensive lesson hahahahah
Depending on the 7 string they can also be 25.5" a classmate came once with one of the lower $ Schecter and said how he's now able to tune lower, 7 strings = must go lower as 6 was his thought without looking at specs...🙄
B standard tuning on a regular 6 string guitar vs getting a baritone guitar? Anyone have any thoughts on that?
I recently converted one of my 25.5 inch Strats to a 27 inch baritone. I use this guitar for B Standard.
I like the feel of the baritone more because B Standard on it feels more natural and the strings are more taut. B standard at 25.5 inch scale just felt very flubby to me, and I had some pretty heavy gauges.
The thing I like about the baritone is that it gives you the option of going down tunings while keeping a relatively light gauge. I'm using 11-48s on my 27 inch and B standard is really clear. I can even go down to drop G and it's pretty tight still.
Wouldn't the low end destroy your guitar speakers?
This is actually really informative and points out everything most people won’t think about before actually handling one. If you’re buying guitars online and not actually handling them before playing, you can be very surprised when picking one up compared to a 25.5 or 24.75 scale.
They do play well but they’re not for everyone as he said.
I use .011's on my LP and downtune to C standard. At that pitch the feel isn't much different form a set of .010's. However, I've found C to be the absolute lowest tuning a 24.75" scale guitar will tolerate. Any lower and you start to have noticeable intonation problems as well as a loss of volume--in my experience. Someone with a lighter touch might not have that issue, but I like to feel at least a little resistance from the strings.