I rescued my Gigi 8yrs ago. Her first human was killed in a car accident and she was in the car with him. She lived for a time with his mom who lived with her daughter and 5 kids. She was so traumatized. She would scream if she heard children crying cuz they would blame her waking a sleeping child, scream if she thought we were arguing, sirens would make her scream! So she was rehomed to me. I retired so had time for her. Today she is a different bird, she's sweet & soo loving and affectionate. She would also bite...no more biting today! You'll get there...PATIENCE is the key...routine also helps..God bless you for rescuing Roman!!❤
Wow, thank you for sharing your rescued parrots story. I feel so sad that she is traumatized, but I’m so happy that you two found each other because life sounds so good now.
@@kadaa5 once I learned to read her or understand when and why she would bite it got easier it was a gradual time line, also the bites got to be gentle as if she was just warning me. If she was agitated I would speak to her in soft tones to calm her down. I'm going to say in the last 2yrs she's not even nipped. The more she trusted the better she got. Like I said Patience is key. She has toys that I switch every couple of weeks likes watching birds on TH-cam! 😆 one very important thing is 12hrs of sleep in a quiet place helped immensely. Good luck and patience 🙏
Ane, you have been so helpful and Brave in sharing your story. I am pretty sure that if any human (owned by a parrot) is honest with themselves we would all be guilty of not respecting or bullying our birds to different degrees. Your openness helps me be more objective and honest about my interactions with my bird. You are doing such an amazing job and I really hope we can have updates on your progress, as time passes. Best wishes 💖
Bravo to Ane for allowing her story and home consult and progress with Roman to be shared for the whole big world to see. It is so wonderful that they are working on developing their communication and a mutually successful relationship with each other.
I have seen both of the videos highlighting this client and her problems. I would really like to see a follow up "success" video that shows the progress that bird made after the in home consults or any new problems that may have replaced the old problems.
Most people are not willing (or able?) to have the patience or interest to work with a bird like Roman (or almost any parrot). I love that you allowed this to be filmed; it's very inspiring and educational! Many people still think of parrots as pets, but they really aren't. It's a whole different mindset requiring different expectations and commitment. I appreciate how you explain everything that's happening in the video and even included a moment where JamieLeigh was trying to get Roman to step up but he was not interested. You didn't get mad at him or force him. You moved away and tried again. I think we as humans expects our pets to do as we say and it's a new mindset to show respect for their desires and level of comfort.
Not that hard to recognize the simple fact that people expect their dependents to obey them, but then sometimes the pet just doesnt like you that much, and would rather give both of you a miserable life. Eame goes with children. Not guaranteed that your child will like you, and you cant just throw them out and replace them either... Since african grays dont seem to be as docile as other birds, I'd say just get a different bird in the first place
I was wondering what happened to this animal and I'm saddened to have found out Ane passed some months after this video was posted. Hopefully someone was able to to keep Roman and continue the training. Judging from the cage and background pictures, Ane seemed to have a love for animals and utilized what she had to provide well for them.
Respect the bird and its needs for personal space and be patient. They'll come around. Just keep in mind that they are not toys, nor are they really pets. They're your companions, and they need respect and patience.
Well, in their hearts, they’re wild creatures that are so intelligent their curiosity has overcome their wild nature. You have to reset your expectations..you can’t just grab them up and expect them to want to cuddle and purr..you have to learn their behaviors, and accept if they aren’t willing for certain actions, and understand what limits there are to how training can alter their behavior. I had this romantic notion that when hens go to bed at night (seeing them all group decide to go into the coop at night and March up the ramp has never gotten old!) they’d roost and snuggle up to each other for warmth as a big happy family. Well..they ..want to have their personal space respected, shall we say, and can get rather..witchy about it. So, myth busted for me, I simply had to learn.
Ane, we are really wishing for all the best for you!! I truly believe that you and Roman can learn to work together in a more harmonious and peaceful manner! You both owe it to each other. Good luck!
My budgie used to try and bite me when I got close-she didn’t want to be touched but she had no problem hanging out on the table or eating off my plate. I’m glad you’re helping out with Roman-I believe birds always bite for a reason and not because they’re mean. ❤
11:20 really showcased what you said about "birds pair the emotion with training" Roman was so used to aggressively biting the towel as he steps up that he still does it, -- even though he was offering to step up.
And birds like a schedule. They get up and go to bed at a certain time. They eat at a certain time. They get their nutriberry at a certain time. They get their daily practice at a certain time daily and sometimes more often.
❤can i say use are amazing ! I'm picking up my male eclectus in a few days with knowing so much /feeling so much comfortable from your content ! Thank you ! Love from western Australia !
She is amazing! All those years of suffering with Iill health…and she still never gave up on this bird. Her health issues forced a distance between them and she is still at risk for health issues if her bites her and she gets an infection…and she clearly loves this bird and wants the relationship to be better. With Dave and Jamie’s help, I hope Roman can learn to trust more, calm down, and that she will be safer and happier with her bird.
This was wonderful to watch~ I still miss my friends macaw and similarly Snucky would bit the hell out of everyone else but not me because I watched his body language and respected when he "said" leave me alone
You all worked hard with this bird, and it shows obviously reading the language before you interact is some thing we all need to do and pay attention to. I’m glad that the two of them were able to get to this point a question I have is what if you have a bird that is soon as it flies out of the cage or gets out of the cage to go on a stand looks for the person they want to bite and goes out and does bite that person. Thanks and keep up all the good work you do.
Its interesting to see how you work around certain obstacles like Ane with needing to use a towel because of her conditions previously mentioned. The towel is really cool to see.
My Eclectus boy loves to bite me, I have had to resort to using a step up stick to move him from place to place, he seems to like being with me but treats me as a chew toy……..I have changes the way I give Hank treats when targeting as recommended in the video about when your bird hates you which has reduced bites and I went three weeks without a bite until this week when he stepped up on my hand happily then decided I needed a bite…….I think it is a game he enjoys some days as he comes to me and he seems chilled on my hand then bang 🤷♀️
@@josiegood1442 Maybe consider the opposite. I was babysitting a bird (conure) that would sometimes bite to say "no" or throw a fit when food was involved. I responded with very dramatic "Ow!"'s (I don't know if you can guild-trip a bird) and some motion to bring the bird out of balance (not fun for the bird). If it kept biting trough three consecutive ow's (2-2,5 seconds) i'd take him in a hold and either put him down on the floor (not fun for the bird) or toss it away (Eclectus might be too big for that). After a few times the bird knew that biting was overkill and a slight nibble or tap from the beak was enough to communicate his displeasure. Key here being ofcourse that you react according and try to stop doing whatever displeases him and preferably recall if there were any signs before the bite (weight shifting, feathers streamlining, grip tightening). As seen in this video birds often give signals that are not seen (or ignored) wich leads to biting becoming the go-to.
I feel more for the owner than the bird. He knows he has power over her and elects to use it, is not a very nice bird companion. It is sad to see what is supposed to be a love bond, turn hostile. I could not live with a mean bird like that. I have had parrots all my life and not one was lacking in love. Maybe there is a way to get that demon out of him and teach him that love and tenderness is a better way
My gf's Quaker seems to think biting is the best way to say hello, but I enjoy having my Nanday groom my lashes while my eye is open. Absolutely a zero chance she would harm me.
My rescue Grey used to draw blood from me almost daily. I didn’t show fear even though I was in pain. A year later she cuddles with me! I hope Ann keeps training. It will be worth the effort.❤
I’ve been wondering, hypothetically. What about using a leather falconry glove? I feel like since it’ll be a new item, it might be like a “blank canvas”, so it isn’t associated with anything like forcefulness, so the introduction of the item will be new, both for rightfully terrified Parrot guardian and for Fearful/Traumatized Bird. New item, new habit, new mannerisms, a lot like using a new target stick if the chopstick we already use has been visibly chewed. What do you think?
I love watching your videos, she should try playing a radio or calm music when he is alone during the day? Idk I seen allot of parrot videos some do, do that. Maybe that can work?
Jaimie, I noticed when you were asking Roman to step up onto the towel unsuccessfully in this vid ie 7:00 (looked like that's what was happening, unless you were testing another idea), your towel-hand was one to two inches below where Ann had her hand, which triggered him to step up. Just an observation trainer to trainer ;)
Honestly it's so hard sometimes for people to lose trust in their bird and the bird lose trust in them. I feel like they know when you aren't confident and can react accordingly. It's funny because I got SO upset when my I was leaving the house to go get something and my grandfather thought it would be a good idea to change their water while I was out. Needless to say he put a whole bowl of their seeds (treats) in the bottom of their cage, got bit while putting the water in resulting in their cage floor with a large puddle. Recalled one, it bit him and then chased it around with oven gloves. To say I was upset by this is an understatement. I told him he is not allowed to open my birds cage and if he does it again setting back our training he will be paying to hire bird tricks to have him fix it 😂 I think he gets the point now lol. It really can set you back massively when a birds trust and confidence in you is lost and complacency is a big factor in it.
I would so much love your help. My African grey Congo is 29 years old. DNA tested female. I've had her for five or six years and cannot hold her. And yes I've been bitten. I cannot be bet my skin is so thin because of my age and oh my goodness I bleed so bad. How do I get with you to get some help!
One thing I taught my birds is to not bite. All my birds came from bad situations. And they all bit really hard. So I started telling them “No bites! Only kisses!” After being bit, I would say this and present a finger just close enough to touch but not bite. Even though the intention was to bite, they couldn’t. And after the unsuccessful bite, I would effusively say “nice kiss!!! Thank you!” And sometimes give a treat. Now, a bite never breaks skin. It’s a pinch at most. It takes time and good acting, but it works.
@@joebean3615 It works for all birds except for birds who are scared or stressed by someone getting excited and making noise. If someone has a bird like that then they need to be quiet and use calm nonverbal communication (which is the natural way birds communicate to begin with)
I’ve trained my birds to go to a perch I have on the cage door. They go there to go in and out of the cage, to get their nutriberry every day, and after they finish their treat, they go there and get to come out. Some try to change the conditions, but I don’t open the door until they do. If they don’t come to the perch, I will ask if they want to come out and sometimes, they don’t want to. My brown head only comes out every two days. Her choice. I have 8 happy birds.
The perch on the door is the way I trained my 13 year old rescue, Dude, to come out every day without having to worry about being bitten. It truly works, he comes and hangs out every day, most the day, whenever I’m home, he’s out and have bonded going by him being in charge. I’ve tried to get your seasonal feeding so many times for our bird but it’s always always sold out. He’s on Tops Parrot food, with pistachios as his favorite treat & those LaFaeber treats in tropical, although we’ve tried all the flavors, & raisins. He doesn’t care much for sunflowers or pine nuts so what can I give him when I’m working with target training, if you see this & have time. He does now step up, which in 13 years he never been out of the cage and didn’t know step up but within 2 days of the 2 minute target training with a chop stick and clicker, he steps up, comes to his perch on the door, & immediately goes to his bed cage when it’s time to go in. I went to check to see if the the seasonal was back in stock and again, I missed it as it’s been 6 months I’ve tried to get it and always too late😢. Is there some in the sample box perhaps? I do fresh chop and he does okay some days on it & loves the birdie breads I get from tops when I order his food. He was on $13 a bag vitakraft seed mix when I got him and we went to Harrison’s which took 2 months to get him to eat & then to the Tops organic pellets in the gold bag. I believe your brand & Marlene’s are also tops brand and why I went with it after reading the labels. I want him to live a long healthy life.
Me personally I would definitely find someone who has a lot of Experience with parrots and adopt It's going to be so difficult to get a good relationship with him now that he basically Hate her If I were in that same situation I would definitely adopt him and get a baby that I can train myself she deserves to have a wonderfuloving relationship with her parrothat's the reason we have them It really makes me sad to see her in such a miserable situatjen I know she wants to have a close bond with a pet bird bird and she definitely deserves one Look at the beautiful life she will give it She's learned a lot From her mistakes me personally I would just start overIf I could find a decent qualified owner for the parrot When it comes to parrot is a very very difficult to get them to forgive Most of the time impossible Like Jamie said he acts totally different towards her and her husband than he does with that lady I personally think the relationship is way To damage to repair Unfortunately parrots are just not very forgiving I think it's a toxic relationship for both of them She could start over and adopt one that is easier to deal with Or get a little baby I think they would both be much happier
I have a 22 year old male lesser Sulphur crested cockatoo named Sam. He has but me at lease a dozen times but I can still pick him up. He no longer wants my husband but wants me and my daughter now.
My african grey never bit me til I fell and cried and swore He loves Drama .he copies everything.the more emotional better .He copiese to the t. So funny except when I am hurt.
I'm not a vet, but I just have gone through the seed diet conversion with many of my cockatiels and can only give advice based on that, I would still recommend an overall checkup with your avian vet in case something is hiding. Now I'm going to make some assumptions about the cockatiel based on previous experiences I've had, and from my vet and my own research it is the energy level difference between seeds and veggies, seeds are considered a high-energy food (you can compare it to fast food like McDonald's) and veggies are a low energy food (literally like veggies), he more then likely is showing lethargy when eating veggies due to a lower input of energy into his body. I don't know if you would find it useful but an avian vet I've visited (Brisbane Bird Vet in Australia) has some great resources on high/low energy foods and a whole PDF of how to transition from seeds with supplied tracking. To sum it up, high-energy food means more energy in less food. So if they ate a tablespoon of seed they'd have more energy than if they ate a tablespoon of veggies, they have to burn that energy off though to stay healthy so low to medium-energy foods are best for captive birds unless you're letting them fly hundreds of miles to burn off the high energy food. Feel free to ask me questions, I've gone through the conversion with every rescue we've had given to us (one who was so bad she had fatty liver disease and kidney damage from it), I hope that helps!
If you continue with the seed diet, you will shorten the birds life a lot. The best thing is to convert the diet slowly, if you search on the internet, there is a LOT of great parrot forums with a lot of very knowledgeable parrot owners. I converted the diet when we got our amazon, I took it EXTREMELY slowly, it took 6 months. He gets a small teaspoon seedmix per day now, the rest is fruit, vegetables and pellets. I didn't want to exclude seeds totally since he loves them, but amount is controlled so it doesn't harm him.
@@taylamae6789 great advice! Let me just add that veggie diet can mean a lot of different things. Maybe there was something lacking in his diet that made him lethargic. Also the previous owners are used to the "hyper" behaviour that's the result of seed diet so maybe the bird only had a normal amount of energy but seemed lethargic to them. As Jamie said in a few videos don't relay on what other people say about a bird, don't use absolutes. Try it and see for yourself how the bird responds.
@@taylamae6789 You can't compare seeds with fast food. Because fast food like McDonald's doesn't give much energy. Seeds are more like real meat, vermicellis or potatoes, they are high energy and it fills you up which isn't a bad thing if you ask me. @Julia Just change the type of veges. Cooked Potatoes and vermicellis without sauce are good. Low calorie veggies will make your bird hungry and this isn't a good thing.
I have a bird that continues to bite everyone except me. Its like he only bonded with me and no one else how do i help him bond with others and friendly to strangers?
I love Ann. She's a magnificent person. My galah is also mean 😂 he's not really but he can be so scary sometimes. He just kind of loses his mind and is like, I will kill you now. I will start target training him more because when he's mad, he's MAD 😂 He is normally very affectionate so I can't be too mean about him.
@Joe Bean On his head. I can pick him up and touch his back and wings if I need to but I don't pat him there because I don't want him getting the wrong idea there 😂 He is my first bird, I do try really hard to make sure I'm getting things right, he sees his avian vet regularly for his check ups and they give me wonderful advice and I try and watch as much stuff as I can on TH-cam etc to get as much knowledge as I can but seeing as he is my first bird, I can certainly do with learning more. I did research on them for about a year before I got him to try and be prepared but when I did get him, I realised straight away that I needed to keep on learning and researching because I didn't know anywhere near enough.
@Joe Bean but I'm wondering if maybe I've given him the wrong idea anyway? He has these extremely affectionate moments where he just wants to lie on me and be patted and even though I just give him head scratches, maybe the whole thing is giving him the wrong idea? It's hard because I don't want to stop him from being such a loving bird but if it's giving him the wrong idea and causing him stress then it's not good. What do you think? I would really appreciate any advice you have and if there's things you think I'm doing that are flat out wrong, please don't be afraid to tell me, I'm not going to be offended, I want to give the boy the best life possible and I want him to always be happy so any advice is very welcome.
I noticed his feathers don’t look that great. Is he doing that to himself or is it some external/internal factor. Anne looks like shes taking great care of him though.
Good morning! My family has recently acquired a conure. What kind of air purifier do you recommend? The conure will be 2yrs in April and she is loving the target training.
@@joebean3615 We have a rescue, I am glad we have him and glad to give him the good life he deserves. but his previous life before us took its tole and he has issues, Doesn't make me love him any less.
My grey was cage bound when i got her. Her original owner a male died a year or after he got her. He doted over her very i was told. His wife after he died locked him in a smaller cage minimal to no toys and seed only. I got her after she died. Cage bound it took months to let her out. A local parrot expert said she had become unattached and would not most likely rebond with me. They called her fred but she was a Freida after much better nutrition layed eggs. I can tell she has become very attached to me but will not come on me. Birds are not domesticated animals and her wild side is to not accept foods from me usually but sometimes. We communicate and i tell her i love her and she coos. It would be helpful that she came on me for practical reasons. She is not a biter except you just can't make her come on you, obviously
I think that ugly towel has become for Roman a way of asking him to bite it. They need to use a different protection, like a leather glove of a different color. The owner seems a bit pushy when approacing Roman. She shouldn't be shaking the snack pot like that to his face when she approaches him.
any tips for my kakariki all he does is bite he does step up some of the time but he always wants to bite. What should I do? I wanna free flight him inside but whenever I try to train with him he either fly's away or bites.
I don't see any kakariki in their videos. Actually,they are very energetic birds and finding a focus to actually train them is so hard I think :o maybe thats a reason they didn't have one yet. I had kakarikis, but they didn't bite me much. I think following the tips from that series is good. Maybe at some point your kakariki felt they can only bite to be heard. Maybe you are pushing your bird too much? I honestly just let them free fly inside flat/room with a cage. I didn't care if they pay attention on me. But since I give treats and food, they started to fly closer to me :D Tho I also think sometimes they kinda just wanna investigate your hand and can try to bite it (when you your hand in the cage for example)Not sure how to avoid this particular situation tbh.
@@silverbloodwolf98 Thank you. I do just let my kakariki out mostly like 5-6 hours a day I do try train with him for about 30 minuets to and hour every day. I feel like it might be something to do with his cage he gets really defensive over his cage so I need to work on that. My kakariki loves to investigate the floor's and everything. Sometimes he will just bite me for no reason. and sometimes I can get him to jump onto my hand but he don't ever wanna fly to my hand But hopefully one day he will. :D
@@ThenIdorapt0r I had a veeery kind female. Maybe I am wrong, but it feels females are more calm and gentle than males. I had a male too, but I bought him ill and he passed away very soon, we just had a little of time (I didn't know he was ill, it was all a sudden). But I've noticed that he is much more likely to bite as a defense, than my female did. She never had any conflicts with my budgie. Each time I see kakariki in the petstore, I can clearly see how females are calm and wondering around and males are just going crazy, jumping and such in their tiny cages. But in general, I feel kakariki interactions with human are a little different from, let's say, budgie or a cockatiel. They have that grabby feet and the training can be also focused on playing with some big toys they can throw and catch. They are also not so cuddly (my budgie never cleaned her head feathers, but she did a lot. Seems she didn't need it at all, their head is not so fluffy). Flying on a hand is important, still, I know how desirable it is to achieve :D. My budgie learned it for a treat. I started with simple step or jump on my hand from the top of the cage. Maybe it will work for you too. I used to take out all sunflower seeds from their food because it is too fat for them in a big amount. Used it as a treat and it worked perfectly well!
Hold it so it can't bite it. You hold it far enough away and come in at an angle so it can only touch yhe stick with its top mandible. They mention this in lots of videos and you see them doing that in this one.
I’ve heard Jamie and Dave say in a lot of their videos that the stick you are touch training should not have bite marks in it since, if their method is employed as recommended, the bird should not actually have an opportunity to really bite the stick you are training with.
I know a grey who's mean as hell. Touching her is out of the question. Paradoxically, she hates being alone and often screeches at ear-splitting volume until someone sits next to her cage and keeps her company.
What’s the diet, sleep, toys, general vibe/noises of the household like, some birds have been trained (accidentally) to scream because people will come into the room or shout at them (which is attention and they might think your joining in on the ‘screaming fun’)
I have had (2) birds in my life. I physically touch their beaks while making them stretch out...I "pet them" that way. One Macaw and one Cockatiel. The Macaw was a 3rd hand abused bird. Took me 2 hours to pick up.
I rescued my Gigi 8yrs ago. Her first human was killed in a car accident and she was in the car with him. She lived for a time with his mom who lived with her daughter and 5 kids. She was so traumatized. She would scream if she heard children crying cuz they would blame her waking a sleeping child, scream if she thought we were arguing, sirens would make her scream! So she was rehomed to me. I retired so had time for her. Today she is a different bird, she's sweet & soo loving and affectionate. She would also bite...no more biting today! You'll get there...PATIENCE is the key...routine also helps..God bless you for rescuing Roman!!❤
Wow, thank you for sharing your rescued parrots story. I feel so sad that she is traumatized, but I’m so happy that you two found each other because life sounds so good now.
Wow. Just wow.. you are a true hero. God bless you ❤
I know all birds are different , but how long did it take for your bird to stop biting?
@@kadaa5 once I learned to read her or understand when and why she would bite it got easier it was a gradual time line, also the bites got to be gentle as if she was just warning me. If she was agitated I would speak to her in soft tones to calm her down. I'm going to say in the last 2yrs she's not even nipped. The more she trusted the better she got. Like I said Patience is key. She has toys that I switch every couple of weeks likes watching birds on TH-cam! 😆 one very important thing is 12hrs of sleep in a quiet place helped immensely. Good luck and patience 🙏
Ane, you have been so helpful and Brave in sharing your story. I am pretty sure that if any human (owned by a parrot) is honest with themselves we would all be guilty of not respecting or bullying our birds to different degrees. Your openness helps me be more objective and honest about my interactions with my bird. You are doing such an amazing job and I really hope we can have updates on your progress, as time passes. Best wishes 💖
Bravo to Ane for allowing her story and home consult and progress with Roman to be shared for the whole big world to see. It is so wonderful that they are working on developing their communication and a mutually successful relationship with each other.
Good advice, and I hope you can do a checkup on Roman and Ann to let us know how they are progressing. Thank you Jamie and Dave
Oohh an update on Roman will be very satisfying!
I have seen both of the videos highlighting this client and her problems. I would really like to see a follow up "success" video that shows the progress that bird made after the in home consults or any new problems that may have replaced the old problems.
“Biting isn’t necessarily part of bird ownership” PREACH!!!
Most people are not willing (or able?) to have the patience or interest to work with a bird like Roman (or almost any parrot). I love that you allowed this to be filmed; it's very inspiring and educational! Many people still think of parrots as pets, but they really aren't. It's a whole different mindset requiring different expectations and commitment. I appreciate how you explain everything that's happening in the video and even included a moment where JamieLeigh was trying to get Roman to step up but he was not interested. You didn't get mad at him or force him. You moved away and tried again. I think we as humans expects our pets to do as we say and it's a new mindset to show respect for their desires and level of comfort.
Not that hard to recognize the simple fact that people expect their dependents to obey them, but then sometimes the pet just doesnt like you that much, and would rather give both of you a miserable life. Eame goes with children. Not guaranteed that your child will like you, and you cant just throw them out and replace them either...
Since african grays dont seem to be as docile as other birds, I'd say just get a different bird in the first place
I was wondering what happened to this animal and I'm saddened to have found out Ane passed some months after this video was posted. Hopefully someone was able to to keep Roman and continue the training. Judging from the cage and background pictures, Ane seemed to have a love for animals and utilized what she had to provide well for them.
Respect the bird and its needs for personal space and be patient.
They'll come around. Just keep in mind that they are not toys, nor are they really pets.
They're your companions, and they need respect and patience.
Well, in their hearts, they’re wild creatures that are so intelligent their curiosity has overcome their wild nature. You have to reset your expectations..you can’t just grab them up and expect them to want to cuddle and purr..you have to learn their behaviors, and accept if they aren’t willing for certain actions, and understand what limits there are to how training can alter their behavior. I had this romantic notion that when hens go to bed at night (seeing them all group decide to go into the coop at night and March up the ramp has never gotten old!) they’d roost and snuggle up to each other for warmth as a big happy family. Well..they ..want to have their personal space respected, shall we say, and can get rather..witchy about it. So, myth busted for me, I simply had to learn.
Ane, we are really wishing for all the best for you!! I truly believe that you and Roman can learn to work together in a more harmonious and peaceful manner! You both owe it to each other. Good luck!
My budgie used to try and bite me when I got close-she didn’t want to be touched but she had no problem hanging out on the table or eating off my plate. I’m glad you’re helping out with Roman-I believe birds always bite for a reason and not because they’re mean. ❤
Good job Ane! Good job Dave and Jamie for assisting Ane with her process! Ane, you did so good!
Ok but that cage is gorgeous 😍😍 that looks nicer than some houses for humans I have seen on the market recently 😍😍🥰🥰
11:20 really showcased what you said about "birds pair the emotion with training" Roman was so used to aggressively biting the towel as he steps up that he still does it, -- even though he was offering to step up.
This story was very interesting. I would love to see an update in the future, because we are all hoping for their success! 🕊
Good luck, Ann. You are doing a great job ❤ wonderful to see you so happy and smiling during this vid 😊 ie at 4:40
I watched the training session the other day and she did well with the training of Roman with guidance.
An excellent synopsis of information on dealing with pet birds using this as a case study....
I really like Ane. 🌼
Really like the breakdown on this….you guys are great!..👍
Thanks for your vulnerability, Ane (and Roman)! Learned a lot from this video!
Dave works miracles! Every bird that hated you loved Dave!
Good video, learnt a lot.
And birds like a schedule. They get up and go to bed at a certain time. They eat at a certain time. They get their nutriberry at a certain time. They get their daily practice at a certain time daily and sometimes more often.
They can scream for stuff though if you don’t feed them later 20 minutes past there scheduled dinner time
❤can i say use are amazing ! I'm picking up my male eclectus in a few days with knowing so much /feeling so much comfortable from your content ! Thank you ! Love from western Australia !
Congratulations! My two Eclectus boys have brought so much love, fun, intelligence, sensitivity, and growth into my life. EnJoy🤗!❤💙💚💛
She is amazing! All those years of suffering with Iill health…and she still never gave up on this bird. Her health issues forced a distance between them and she is still at risk for health issues if her bites her and she gets an infection…and she clearly loves this bird and wants the relationship to be better. With Dave and Jamie’s help, I hope Roman can learn to trust more, calm down, and that she will be safer and happier with her bird.
5:37 My grandma's grey parrot did the same. And the behavior of Roman and my grey parrot is VERY similar.
This was such a helpful video, thank you!
This was wonderful to watch~ I still miss my friends macaw and similarly Snucky would bit the hell out of everyone else but not me because I watched his body language and respected when he "said" leave me alone
Good video once again
Bravo! Well done!! Always love your videos. My budgies also thank you!!!❤🐦🐦❤
You all worked hard with this bird, and it shows obviously reading the language before you interact is some thing we all need to do and pay attention to. I’m glad that the two of them were able to get to this point a question I have is what if you have a bird that is soon as it flies out of the cage or gets out of the cage to go on a stand looks for the person they want to bite and goes out and does bite that person. Thanks and keep up all the good work you do.
A bit off-topic but Ane's cage is incredible!
Love Ann’s birdcage/aviary. How can I order one?
Its interesting to see how you work around certain obstacles like Ane with needing to use a towel because of her conditions previously mentioned. The towel is really cool to see.
I feel like this was great for the 2 of them. Hope they stick it out together and work through their troubles.
Anne seems so sweet and compassionate. ❤
Nice job guys
You have beautiful parrot ❤
My Eclectus boy loves to bite me, I have had to resort to using a step up stick to move him from place to place, he seems to like being with me but treats me as a chew toy……..I have changes the way I give Hank treats when targeting as recommended in the video about when your bird hates you which has reduced bites and I went three weeks without a bite until this week when he stepped up on my hand happily then decided I needed a bite…….I think it is a game he enjoys some days as he comes to me and he seems chilled on my hand then bang 🤷♀️
That's a shame. what do you do when he bites you?
Could be hormonal, too.
@@stalincat2457 tell him no and no biting, I have gotten really good at not reacting now as I am used to the pain
@@Mandy138Cool true, Eclectus’ apparently are in the mood for love 3 out of the 4 seasons……..I get less bites in winter 🤪
@@josiegood1442 Maybe consider the opposite. I was babysitting a bird (conure) that would sometimes bite to say "no" or throw a fit when food was involved. I responded with very dramatic "Ow!"'s (I don't know if you can guild-trip a bird) and some motion to bring the bird out of balance (not fun for the bird). If it kept biting trough three consecutive ow's (2-2,5 seconds) i'd take him in a hold and either put him down on the floor (not fun for the bird) or toss it away (Eclectus might be too big for that). After a few times the bird knew that biting was overkill and a slight nibble or tap from the beak was enough to communicate his displeasure. Key here being ofcourse that you react according and try to stop doing whatever displeases him and preferably recall if there were any signs before the bite (weight shifting, feathers streamlining, grip tightening). As seen in this video birds often give signals that are not seen (or ignored) wich leads to biting becoming the go-to.
I feel more for the owner than the bird. He knows he has power over her and elects to use it, is not a very nice bird companion. It is sad to see what is supposed to be a love bond, turn hostile.
I could not live with a mean bird like that. I have had parrots all my life and not one was lacking in love. Maybe there is a way to get that demon out of him and teach him that love and tenderness is a better way
Beautiful sharing ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
My gf's Quaker seems to think biting is the best way to say hello, but I enjoy having my Nanday groom my lashes while my eye is open. Absolutely a zero chance she would harm me.
That house s something else …let alone the cage!
Bird lives better than most children.
I sure hope these two end up w a great relationship
My rescue Grey used to draw blood from me almost daily. I didn’t show fear even though I was in pain. A year later she cuddles with me! I hope Ann keeps training. It will be worth the effort.❤
Nice👍
Most of my cages have perches on the door to make it easier to step up...especially for quakers who are rather territorial 😅
Just a bit, right?😂😂
I'm going to put a perch on the Quakers cage today! 15 year old bonded pair that was never trained. I love how comic they are.
I’ve been wondering, hypothetically. What about using a leather falconry glove? I feel like since it’ll be a new item, it might be like a “blank canvas”, so it isn’t associated with anything like forcefulness, so the introduction of the item will be new, both for rightfully terrified Parrot guardian and for Fearful/Traumatized Bird. New item, new habit, new mannerisms, a lot like using a new target stick if the chopstick we already use has been visibly chewed. What do you think?
Cool idea!
Both my birds were tame. I got cancer and could not touch them for a year. After chemo, radiation and surgery, my tame babies became wild again.
I love watching your videos, she should try playing a radio or calm music when he is alone during the day? Idk I seen allot of parrot videos some do, do that. Maybe that can work?
Jaimie, I noticed when you were asking Roman to step up onto the towel unsuccessfully in this vid ie 7:00 (looked like that's what was happening, unless you were testing another idea), your towel-hand was one to two inches below where Ann had her hand, which triggered him to step up. Just an observation trainer to trainer ;)
Honestly it's so hard sometimes for people to lose trust in their bird and the bird lose trust in them. I feel like they know when you aren't confident and can react accordingly.
It's funny because I got SO upset when my I was leaving the house to go get something and my grandfather thought it would be a good idea to change their water while I was out. Needless to say he put a whole bowl of their seeds (treats) in the bottom of their cage, got bit while putting the water in resulting in their cage floor with a large puddle. Recalled one, it bit him and then chased it around with oven gloves. To say I was upset by this is an understatement. I told him he is not allowed to open my birds cage and if he does it again setting back our training he will be paying to hire bird tricks to have him fix it 😂 I think he gets the point now lol.
It really can set you back massively when a birds trust and confidence in you is lost and complacency is a big factor in it.
I would so much love your help. My African grey Congo is 29 years old. DNA tested female. I've had her for five or six years and cannot hold her. And yes I've been bitten. I cannot be bet my skin is so thin because of my age and oh my goodness I bleed so bad. How do I get with you to get some help!
One thing I taught my birds is to not bite. All my birds came from bad situations. And they all bit really hard. So I started telling them “No bites! Only kisses!” After being bit, I would say this and present a finger just close enough to touch but not bite. Even though the intention was to bite, they couldn’t. And after the unsuccessful bite, I would effusively say “nice kiss!!! Thank you!” And sometimes give a treat. Now, a bite never breaks skin. It’s a pinch at most. It takes time and good acting, but it works.
Love this idea 💡 Thanks for the info
That is really awesome! Before I try this with my cockatoo, are any of your birds cockies and did it work for them too?
@@Danica.Powell it would work for any bird it’s just the trainer who might not do it properly
@@joebean3615 It works for all birds except for birds who are scared or stressed by someone getting excited and making noise. If someone has a bird like that then they need to be quiet and use calm nonverbal communication (which is the natural way birds communicate to begin with)
@@Danica.Powell no cockatoos EVER but it worked for my Quaker, moustache and conures. But I bet it will work on a cockatoo
I’ve trained my birds to go to a perch I have on the cage door. They go there to go in and out of the cage, to get their nutriberry every day, and after they finish their treat, they go there and get to come out. Some try to change the conditions, but I don’t open the door until they do. If they don’t come to the perch, I will ask if they want to come out and sometimes, they don’t want to. My brown head only comes out every two days. Her choice. I have 8 happy birds.
5:36 - I can attest that bar clicking is the most annoying sound a bird can make besides screaming.
I imagine consistency is important.
The perch on the door is the way I trained my 13 year old rescue, Dude, to come out every day without having to worry about being bitten. It truly works, he comes and hangs out every day, most the day, whenever I’m home, he’s out and have bonded going by him being in charge.
I’ve tried to get your seasonal feeding so many times for our bird but it’s always always sold out. He’s on Tops Parrot food, with pistachios as his favorite treat & those LaFaeber treats in tropical, although we’ve tried all the flavors, & raisins. He doesn’t care much for sunflowers or pine nuts so what can I give him when I’m working with target training, if you see this & have time. He does now step up, which in 13 years he never been out of the cage and didn’t know step up but within 2 days of the 2 minute target training with a chop stick and clicker, he steps up, comes to his perch on the door, & immediately goes to his bed cage when it’s time to go in.
I went to check to see if the the seasonal was back in stock and again, I missed it as it’s been 6 months I’ve tried to get it and always too late😢. Is there some in the sample box perhaps? I do fresh chop and he does okay some days on it & loves the birdie breads I get from tops when I order his food. He was on $13 a bag vitakraft seed mix when I got him and we went to Harrison’s which took 2 months to get him to eat & then to the Tops organic pellets in the gold bag. I believe your brand & Marlene’s are also tops brand and why I went with it after reading the labels. I want him to live a long healthy life.
Her aviary is magnificent! Any idea where it’s from?
It looks like a king cage? Crazy expensive but since it’s inside it won’t wear as quick.
Me personally I would definitely find someone who has a lot of Experience with parrots and adopt It's going to be so difficult to get a good relationship with him now that he basically Hate her If I were in that same situation I would definitely adopt him and get a baby that I can train myself she deserves to have a wonderfuloving relationship with her parrothat's the reason we have them It really makes me sad to see her in such a miserable situatjen I know she wants to have a close bond with a pet bird bird and she definitely deserves one Look at the beautiful life she will give it She's learned a lot From her mistakes me personally I would just start overIf I could find a decent qualified owner for the parrot When it comes to parrot is a very very difficult to get them to forgive Most of the time impossible Like Jamie said he acts totally different towards her and her husband than he does with that lady I personally think the relationship is way To damage to repair Unfortunately parrots are just not very forgiving I think it's a toxic relationship for both of them She could start over and adopt one that is easier to deal with Or get a little baby I think they would both be much happier
I have a 22 year old male lesser Sulphur crested cockatoo named Sam. He has but me at lease a dozen times but I can still pick him up. He no longer wants my husband but wants me and my daughter now.
Any update on how things are progressing?
What about a falconry gauntlet.
The way you move the pot is different than the way she shakes it.
I feel like one of my budgies should watch this, cause girl be jumping on my hand bites like I forced her to get on my hand.
All three of my macaws bite me ... just to see the look on my face.
Roman the Raptor, isn’t this the bird who ate another bird?
Okay 👍
My african grey never bit
me til I fell and cried and swore
He loves Drama .he copies everything.the more emotional better .He copiese to the t. So funny except when I am hurt.
Mine looks funny attacking my dad’s arms.
Awesome skills how toy teach people how to deal with birds who bite
I am getting a cockateil who is on a seed diet and the owners say he gets lethargic if he eats veges what do I do??
I'm not a vet, but I just have gone through the seed diet conversion with many of my cockatiels and can only give advice based on that, I would still recommend an overall checkup with your avian vet in case something is hiding.
Now I'm going to make some assumptions about the cockatiel based on previous experiences I've had, and from my vet and my own research it is the energy level difference between seeds and veggies, seeds are considered a high-energy food (you can compare it to fast food like McDonald's) and veggies are a low energy food (literally like veggies), he more then likely is showing lethargy when eating veggies due to a lower input of energy into his body. I don't know if you would find it useful but an avian vet I've visited (Brisbane Bird Vet in Australia) has some great resources on high/low energy foods and a whole PDF of how to transition from seeds with supplied tracking.
To sum it up, high-energy food means more energy in less food. So if they ate a tablespoon of seed they'd have more energy than if they ate a tablespoon of veggies, they have to burn that energy off though to stay healthy so low to medium-energy foods are best for captive birds unless you're letting them fly hundreds of miles to burn off the high energy food.
Feel free to ask me questions, I've gone through the conversion with every rescue we've had given to us (one who was so bad she had fatty liver disease and kidney damage from it), I hope that helps!
If you continue with the seed diet, you will shorten the birds life a lot. The best thing is to convert the diet slowly, if you search on the internet, there is a LOT of great parrot forums with a lot of very knowledgeable parrot owners. I converted the diet when we got our amazon, I took it EXTREMELY slowly, it took 6 months. He gets a small teaspoon seedmix per day now, the rest is fruit, vegetables and pellets. I didn't want to exclude seeds totally since he loves them, but amount is controlled so it doesn't harm him.
@@taylamae6789 great advice! Let me just add that veggie diet can mean a lot of different things. Maybe there was something lacking in his diet that made him lethargic. Also the previous owners are used to the "hyper" behaviour that's the result of seed diet so maybe the bird only had a normal amount of energy but seemed lethargic to them. As Jamie said in a few videos don't relay on what other people say about a bird, don't use absolutes. Try it and see for yourself how the bird responds.
@@alisav8394
100% True.
@@taylamae6789 You can't compare seeds with fast food. Because fast food like McDonald's doesn't give much energy. Seeds are more like real meat, vermicellis or potatoes, they are high energy and it fills you up which isn't a bad thing if you ask me.
@Julia
Just change the type of veges. Cooked Potatoes and vermicellis without sauce are good. Low calorie veggies will make your bird hungry and this isn't a good thing.
I have a bird that continues to bite everyone except me. Its like he only bonded with me and no one else how do i help him bond with others and friendly to strangers?
I love Ann. She's a magnificent person. My galah is also mean 😂 he's not really but he can be so scary sometimes. He just kind of loses his mind and is like, I will kill you now. I will start target training him more because when he's mad, he's MAD 😂 He is normally very affectionate so I can't be too mean about him.
Where do you pat him?
@Joe Bean On his head. I can pick him up and touch his back and wings if I need to but I don't pat him there because I don't want him getting the wrong idea there 😂 He is my first bird, I do try really hard to make sure I'm getting things right, he sees his avian vet regularly for his check ups and they give me wonderful advice and I try and watch as much stuff as I can on TH-cam etc to get as much knowledge as I can but seeing as he is my first bird, I can certainly do with learning more. I did research on them for about a year before I got him to try and be prepared but when I did get him, I realised straight away that I needed to keep on learning and researching because I didn't know anywhere near enough.
@Joe Bean but I'm wondering if maybe I've given him the wrong idea anyway? He has these extremely affectionate moments where he just wants to lie on me and be patted and even though I just give him head scratches, maybe the whole thing is giving him the wrong idea? It's hard because I don't want to stop him from being such a loving bird but if it's giving him the wrong idea and causing him stress then it's not good. What do you think? I would really appreciate any advice you have and if there's things you think I'm doing that are flat out wrong, please don't be afraid to tell me, I'm not going to be offended, I want to give the boy the best life possible and I want him to always be happy so any advice is very welcome.
Sound like my bird he African gray love to bite
I noticed his feathers don’t look that great. Is he doing that to himself or is it some external/internal factor. Anne looks like shes taking great care of him though.
Good morning! My family has recently acquired a conure. What kind of air purifier do you recommend? The conure will be 2yrs in April and she is loving the target training.
In their videos, you can see that they have several Alexapure air purifiers around the house. I just got one and really like it.
does this work on cockatiels?
Every bird!
@@joebean3615 We have a rescue, I am glad we have him and glad to give him the good life he deserves. but his previous life before us took its tole and he has issues, Doesn't make me love him any less.
@@stevenking116 what are you currently working on?!
My grey was cage bound when i got her. Her original owner a male died a year or after he got her. He doted over her very i was told. His wife after he died locked him in a smaller cage minimal to no toys and seed only. I got her after she died. Cage bound it took months to let her out. A local parrot expert said she had become unattached and would not most likely rebond with me. They called her fred but she was a Freida after much better nutrition layed eggs. I can tell she has become very attached to me but will not come on me. Birds are not domesticated animals and her wild side is to not accept foods from me usually but sometimes. We communicate and i tell her i love her and she coos. It would be helpful that she came on me for practical reasons. She is not a biter except you just can't make her come on you, obviously
I think that ugly towel has become for Roman a way of asking him to bite it. They need to use a different protection, like a leather glove of a different color. The owner seems a bit pushy when approacing Roman. She shouldn't be shaking the snack pot like that to his face when she approaches him.
Nice video India
I really wish I could get your help
With my 6 year old gray. Can’t get her to step up, she will bite.
Mine is a bit nippy at mo. Need to get back to training:/
It would be really helpful if you were to tell us what body language to look for.
any tips for my kakariki all he does is bite he does step up some of the time but he always wants to bite. What should I do? I wanna free flight him inside but whenever I try to train with him he either fly's away or bites.
I don't see any kakariki in their videos. Actually,they are very energetic birds and finding a focus to actually train them is so hard I think :o maybe thats a reason they didn't have one yet. I had kakarikis, but they didn't bite me much.
I think following the tips from that series is good. Maybe at some point your kakariki felt they can only bite to be heard. Maybe you are pushing your bird too much?
I honestly just let them free fly inside flat/room with a cage. I didn't care if they pay attention on me. But since I give treats and food, they started to fly closer to me :D
Tho I also think sometimes they kinda just wanna investigate your hand and can try to bite it (when you your hand in the cage for example)Not sure how to avoid this particular situation tbh.
@@silverbloodwolf98 Thank you. I do just let my kakariki out mostly like 5-6 hours a day I do try train with him for about 30 minuets to and hour every day. I feel like it might be something to do with his cage he gets really defensive over his cage so I need to work on that. My kakariki loves to investigate the floor's and everything. Sometimes he will just bite me for no reason. and sometimes I can get him to jump onto my hand but he don't ever wanna fly to my hand But hopefully one day he will. :D
@@ThenIdorapt0r I had a veeery kind female. Maybe I am wrong, but it feels females are more calm and gentle than males. I had a male too, but I bought him ill and he passed away very soon, we just had a little of time (I didn't know he was ill, it was all a sudden). But I've noticed that he is much more likely to bite as a defense, than my female did. She never had any conflicts with my budgie.
Each time I see kakariki in the petstore, I can clearly see how females are calm and wondering around and males are just going crazy, jumping and such in their tiny cages.
But in general, I feel kakariki interactions with human are a little different from, let's say, budgie or a cockatiel. They have that grabby feet and the training can be also focused on playing with some big toys they can throw and catch. They are also not so cuddly (my budgie never cleaned her head feathers, but she did a lot. Seems she didn't need it at all, their head is not so fluffy). Flying on a hand is important, still, I know how desirable it is to achieve :D. My budgie learned it for a treat. I started with simple step or jump on my hand from the top of the cage. Maybe it will work for you too.
I used to take out all sunflower seeds from their food because it is too fat for them in a big amount. Used it as a treat and it worked perfectly well!
I started to touch train my Lovebird but all he wants to do is just bite and chew on whatever I’m using, what should I do differently?
Hold it so it can't bite it. You hold it far enough away and come in at an angle so it can only touch yhe stick with its top mandible. They mention this in lots of videos and you see them doing that in this one.
I’ve heard Jamie and Dave say in a lot of their videos that the stick you are touch training should not have bite marks in it since, if their method is employed as recommended, the bird should not actually have an opportunity to really bite the stick you are training with.
My parrot bites me because I'm cried and parrots love emotional repose
i like when the patterned speech stops....at least proving it IS possible....
May african grey parrot always attacks :(
Obviously, some people should Not have parrots!!!
I know a grey who's mean as hell. Touching her is out of the question. Paradoxically, she hates being alone and often screeches at ear-splitting volume until someone sits next to her cage and keeps her company.
She's probably bored and wants out of the cage.
What’s the diet, sleep, toys, general vibe/noises of the household like, some birds have been trained (accidentally) to scream because people will come into the room or shout at them (which is attention and they might think your joining in on the ‘screaming fun’)
@@Emily789 She is not confined. Door open all day.
@@joebean3615 She ignores toys. The owners are trying their best to ween her from a largely treat-based diet to something more healthy.
A bird needs to fly and meet his/her own species, problem solved. Come on, we make only problems to animals.
I have had (2) birds in my life. I physically touch their beaks while making them stretch out...I "pet them" that way. One Macaw and one Cockatiel. The Macaw was a 3rd hand abused bird. Took me 2 hours to pick up.