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  • @tronicbasez1814
    @tronicbasez1814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +337

    When I signed for accounting and finance, I thought I’d become “The Wolf of Wallstreet” + “The Accountant”. I ended up learning about the financial market and other business information on my own. College taught very little for what I was paying. I learnt more online than most of my high school and college career.

    • @gabbo13
      @gabbo13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I had the same feeling as you did, but I graduated from film and television four years ago.

    • @brendanmichaelwelsh6260
      @brendanmichaelwelsh6260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      So what are we paying them for again? The piece of paper at the end of it? Wow it degree means I can use the internet / Google when my Uni sucks ass!

    • @derekwhite8196
      @derekwhite8196 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I did finance too and was very unsatisfied. Are you trying to get into web dev now too?

    • @ThorMaximus
      @ThorMaximus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Derek White yeah I did Finance as well. It WAS important then; not as much now.

    • @tanyarawat9700
      @tanyarawat9700 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derekwhite8196 Not enough pay?

  • @ankitbhat4531
    @ankitbhat4531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Very true words. College teaches you to be a great employee, not employer

  • @logantaylor4121
    @logantaylor4121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    It's ok to start as an employee after college. It's difficult to understand how things work until you are on the inside and actually see how a business is run. The trick is to not get too comfortable and use that knowledge to go from employee to entrepreneur.
    Also please don't sway people from engineering. Although a lot of what you learn in school isn't directly used in your career it makes you a better problem solver which is useful no matter what you are doing.

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      What you're saying is my mantra lol

    • @Luanhziiin
      @Luanhziiin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      60k for being a better problem solver? Not Worth. (This is coming from someone with a Master's degree in mechanical engineering).
      If you are not going to be an engineer, please, dont do engineering.

    • @formula1340
      @formula1340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Studying 4 years just to be better problem solver is shit. Better go working straight from highschool and you be better at that in much less time. Not to mention the money you'll spend just be a good "problem solver".

    • @Talishar
      @Talishar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@formula1340 Studying engineering for example is more than just problem solving. Problem solving is just the primary skill which you work and grow. An engineer is responsible for knowing all of the interactions and mechanics going on in a process within their discipline. It's something that someone without working towards the degree likely won't have to the same level. Especially since in many engineering disciplines you literally can't be wrong or make a mistake because if it doesn't get caught, people can die. Because engineering polishes the problem solving and critical thinking skills so much, many companies outside of engineering often try to poach and headhunt for engineers to get these qualities within their organizations. There are a surprising many degree programs and professions where problem solving and critical thinking are NOT a very integral part of the process so companies that hire heavily outside of STEM majors tend to be lacking in these departments. Advertising firms are generally good examples where many of these skills are surprisingly lacking and where quite a few engineers can find themselves sought after if they're open to it.

  • @superawesomeminecaft
    @superawesomeminecaft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    It terrifies me seeing some of my friends collect tens of thousands in debt, I couldn't imagine

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      It's scary. When you see that useless degree too.

    • @googleuser7771
      @googleuser7771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tell them to stop! Show them the math. Surely they will listen to reason

    • @TwoDollarGararge
      @TwoDollarGararge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm 18 42,000 in debt played $1500 off and now I'm pinching pennies

    • @superawesomeminecaft
      @superawesomeminecaft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Google User it’s too late at this point. Their family isn’t too well off, and they are attending a private school for a psych degree with I believe a masters in Education. It’s going to be a rough ride.

    • @superawesomeminecaft
      @superawesomeminecaft 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tech Explained good luck

  • @7chill87
    @7chill87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    I spent 10 years at uni and got 3 science degrees (because apparently you're more likely to get a 'good' job - but no one tells you that science jobs don't particularly pay well). Then got an 'entry level' job in industry and those 2.5 years in industry taught me more about the scientific method and proper experimentation than anything I did at university.

    • @googleuser7771
      @googleuser7771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      You can look up average salaries in science fields using the internet. You would have been able to do that in all 10 years at uni probably.

    • @burlapvest7521
      @burlapvest7521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In what are those 3 degrees sir?

    • @7chill87
      @7chill87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@burlapvest7521 BSc Pharmacology, MSc Toxicology, PhD Neuroscience

    • @burlapvest7521
      @burlapvest7521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@7chill87 sweet gj. very valuable thanks for sharing

    • @dannylaza1326
      @dannylaza1326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Got a degree in Chemistry and Biochemistry. Decided i didn't want to go to medical school... so not much left for me. Gunna probably go back for a CS degree.

  • @helloyassine
    @helloyassine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    I can't imagine how miserable my life would be knowing I had this mountain of debt over me. Especially for those people that graduated with a useless degree.

    • @tronicbasez1814
      @tronicbasez1814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      helloyassine You wouldn’t be making quality videos like you are doing right now. Your channel is amazing✌🏾.

    • @kazykamakaze131
      @kazykamakaze131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cosmonautbilly9570 You do realize that ivy league student loans you will easily rack up 200k+ in debt.

    • @tasheemhargrove9650
      @tasheemhargrove9650 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cosmonautbilly9570 Stanford is a private school. But yeah everything else is accurate.

    • @googleuser7771
      @googleuser7771 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kazykamakaze131 surely you'd have to be very sure you're going to be making a lot of money if you go into a degree where you're going to rack up $200k of debt

    • @tasheemhargrove9650
      @tasheemhargrove9650 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cosmonautbilly9570 What is it like in the Bay Area. I used to work with a guy who lived there. He said he loved it there. I've always lived on the East Coast.

  • @TinyMaths
    @TinyMaths 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Time management: It took 6 months before I realized I had appalling study habits, (I'm a first year mature student in my forties). Then, thanks to TH-cam I learned about more effective study habits, like the one you mentioned, study x amount of minutes/mini break/ study x minutes/ mini break etc, and allow for longer pauses, lunch etc, also repeated sessions on the same subject over a long period until the concept is virtually second nature; it may have saved me from flunking completely, but I only had this realization 2 months before exams. Nobody told me this, had to find out purely by accident.

  • @weridplusho
    @weridplusho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I'd studied more for my Japanese class than I did for my IT degree... It was the hardest 3 classes I had. And I still learned next to nothing. I think college doesn't teach anyone that can be remembered later on. It seems like that anything one remembers is due to experience or something you learned on your own because _you_ were in the driver's seat.

    • @aimless-drifter
      @aimless-drifter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      totally agree, that why we have projects and capstones. You apply what you learn to make something, put your knowledge to use.

  • @NotShowingOff
    @NotShowingOff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    No amount of degrees keeps you above the danger. Credentialism is destroying the country.

    • @Shadowgangster123
      @Shadowgangster123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure it is that’s why it’s become the standard and that’s way more and more credentials are being required right

  • @Dratsabamai
    @Dratsabamai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I did my degree in the UK (Computing and Games development), one of the most important skills I did pick up there was convincing people that what I had created had value. Enthusiasm tends to be very infectious, if youre enthusiastic about what youve made you can influence other people to be more enthusiastic as well.
    It is true that at University there are those who just bum out for a 4 year period and accomplish very little. My personal truth is that it created an environment where I could learn my craft without the inconvenience of spending 40h a week doing something I hated / draining all of my mental energy. I suppose to me the most valuable thing about University was just the time itself.
    Im now a mid-level UX Developer and youve inspired me to retry becoming a TH-cam content creator. :D

    • @harm991
      @harm991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      "convincing people that what I had created had value." How?

    • @DagnirRen
      @DagnirRen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@harm991 sales tactics. Looking for jobs is all about selling yourself, quite literally.

  • @zoesylvester8539
    @zoesylvester8539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I'm 28 years old. When I graduated high school at 18, I convinced myself that I could just start working and have a good life. Ten years of awful entry level jobs later I didn't really have anything to show for my time. There are a lot of my own mistakes in there, a lot of metal health issues I wasn't dealing with, and I was in the closet - but ultimately I blew a decade of my life thinking I didn't need technical skills.
    Now I'm in college for a computer programming Advanced Diploma that will let me get a BSc in CompSci in about 4 years total. One thing I have noticed about college, is that the workload for my program (which is considered to have an extremely high workload) is actually very light compared to just working full time + overtime. The work is also a lot more enjoyable. I keep a detailed Trello board with all of my assignments for the next month organized by class and priority, every day I pick 5-10 tasks, and I just do homework for about 4-6 hours after my 2-4 hours of classes. This is time spent listening to podcasts, chatting with friends, and taking breaks as often as I want to. I work at a very leisurely pace, enjoying what I'm doing, and so far my "super intense" program has been nowhere near as difficult as any of the jobs I've had over the last decade.
    I worked in offices with overtime that was basically mandatory (unless you wanted your bosses to hate you,) working 50-70 hour work weeks in call centers where every second of your time was documented and every aspect of your performance was scrutinized. The environments were designed to crush individuality and expression, and they absolutely did not care about your mental health or well being. In my area, entry level positions that didn't require a degree were greatly outnumbered by the people looking for work, so the mentality at these offices was very much "if you give us any resistance we will invent reasons to fire you."
    Now I have 4 days (~20 hours) of classes a week, about 25-30 hours of homework, all of which is in a pleasant, safe, encouraging environment. In my country school is heavily subsidized so my student debts will be minimal, thankfully. I have enough free time that I am teaching myself some additional skills outside of what my program covers - specifically some art / design skills to help bridge the gap between designer and developer, as well as Python and Java which aren't covered by my program. I am really enjoying myself right now. This is fun.
    The point is, shitty jobs will make you want to kill yourself. I don't mean that as hyperbole, I mean that after a year in some shitty cubicle farm, the prospect of blowing your brains out seems more appealing than going in to get yelled at by your dickhead pathetic tyrant boss again. Don't blow your time in school partying, take it seriously so you have more freedom and maneuverability to get the kinds of jobs that treat you well and you enjoy. Don't fuck it up and spend a decade in puppy mills like I did.

    • @ryerye9019
      @ryerye9019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      College students are the customer. They don't want to scare them away. Colleges spend more on facilities and athletics than on academics. As the NYU professor says, college is marketed like a luxury good.

    • @Anton-oq3zt
      @Anton-oq3zt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why won't just take some bootcamp? Don't you know that you won't get any job with only cs degree unless it is from Harvard or MIT.
      Also do not learn multiple languages focus on one learn it thoroughly. I reccomend you to learn Java then SQL, Maven/Gradle, Spring, Hibernate and then you can practise doing some backend projects.

    • @zoesylvester8539
      @zoesylvester8539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Anton-oq3zt Well my program has a 95% hire rate after graduation and I have the top marks in my class so I'll probably be fine. I'm also using my free time to learn some other skills outside of the scope of my program to make myself valuable. I'll be okay.

    • @doublepmcl6391
      @doublepmcl6391 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like a very good long text for reddit too.

    • @Anton-oq3zt
      @Anton-oq3zt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Johannes Terzis dude she is 28 old among 19-20 yo kids. She just wants a stable job which cs degree cannot guarantee.

  • @AvocadoAtrocity
    @AvocadoAtrocity 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I was skeptical watching this channel. Seemed too genuine. The moment you mentioned the "2 year operating" for a business loan, I knew everything was legit (we have very, very similar life paths). Josh is speaking the unfiltered truth-- for now.

  • @abdullahyahya9507
    @abdullahyahya9507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    As a Computer Science Student that worked in the REAL LIFE, what we study at the university is the perfection of the software engineering process and they draw a perfect image in our mind that all the software companies works in an organized way, DRY Code , and organized team communication. But that's not in real life !

  • @digitalnomad9087
    @digitalnomad9087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have a bachelor's degree in Information Technology and minor in Computer Science. I learned a lot of theory, took a lot of random classes unrelated to my major and in the end I learned everything from my first internship/job anyways. I never understand why companies require four year degrees to get a job if they're just going to start you from the bottom and teach you what you need to know for the job. It would save students a ton of debt if companies actually trained their employees to begin with.

  • @_sam_kulkarni_8699
    @_sam_kulkarni_8699 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really liking the pace of your videos! I have been watching them during my lunch breaks.

  • @ChipsMcClive
    @ChipsMcClive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for mentioning the importance of communicating understandably with people of other technical backgrounds. Consideration for others is the most important skill an engineer can have.

  • @nabila7115
    @nabila7115 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video! I'm enjoying the frequent uploads, always something good to catch.

  • @devena6166
    @devena6166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Literally facts when he said we go to a 2 hour class then do nothing and not get shit done lol

    • @Mate811
      @Mate811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you have 2 hour classes in the US? I'm an university student in Europe, 4 semesters already done in Computer Science, and the least amount of classtime I had is like 30 hours per week. Wouldn't say they did anything useful with that time though.

    • @aimless-drifter
      @aimless-drifter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @BS Handle Created so at my school ME students usually study 10hr a day, they stay at school after lab and lectures to do work or just study. When I'm stuck on something, I just start walking around school and I always find other ME students even if it's 8pm at night.

  • @pranansubba9587
    @pranansubba9587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Josh, you speak our heart. I absolutely agree with you. Modern education are becoming like business.

  • @abdullahyahya9507
    @abdullahyahya9507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep it up Joshua and PLEASE DONT STOP What are you doing right now, I really enjoy your videos and you're a realistic person !

  • @e.r.o4637
    @e.r.o4637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    College doesn't teach money management.

    • @danielpintjuk
      @danielpintjuk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It teaches you how to sirvie on subsistance minimum. That is valuable for money management.

  • @pedrofranciscodominguez832
    @pedrofranciscodominguez832 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, I knew some of the topics beforehand but still very well covered

  • @camerongreen9328
    @camerongreen9328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Video, 6 things I wish I learned during college! Keep up the great work!

  • @Killermike2178
    @Killermike2178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The dream is free, the hustle is sold separately...

  • @vancoverden
    @vancoverden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd love to see a template of how you stay organised with Notion. I just recently got into it but don't know how to best use it for productivity yet.

  • @Pro-dd4dv
    @Pro-dd4dv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You really are awesome thanks for sharing the knowledge

  • @nbk5008
    @nbk5008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I had no idea that starting a business would impact my ability to get a mortgage. Thanks for sharing that info.

  • @razamadaz3417
    @razamadaz3417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great tips as always Josh. I'm 48 and considering I.T after being made redundant from my old job, which over the years, has become obselete. I find your vids inspiring, keep them coming.

    • @picklerix6162
      @picklerix6162 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Skip the IT and learn how to write code. Even better, learn electronics and learn how to write code.
      There are a million people in Asia who will work for nothing in IT and bean counters are always cutting the IT department to outsource/offshore the work to save money.

    • @IreFang
      @IreFang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@picklerix6162 companies can't outsource certain IT jobs. Help desk will be outsourced but server stuff and cyber security has to be people in their country.

  • @goodjab9256
    @goodjab9256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *Informative content as always*

  • @mrjokerq
    @mrjokerq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm getting a bachelors in electronic engineering here in Brazil. It's intense. And when I say intense I mean 5 hours of classes every day + 6 hours/day of internship (here we do it during university, not after). And I completely agree with you. University teaches some things but it's 95% useless. I'm glad universities here are free. And I'm also glad that I'm not delusional about "the high paying job I'm going to land after college". That's why I'm investing the money from my internship in learning skills like copywriting, closing, social dynamics...

    • @ChiragKava
      @ChiragKava 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I m in second year and still I don't have a single internship 😢

  • @mdelorme123
    @mdelorme123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos man

  • @amcdonald5672
    @amcdonald5672 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this so much

  • @querube78
    @querube78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    $6,000 per semester? Dude that's a whole year in Mexico. I'm in my early 20's and didn't go to college despite having 5.0 GPA and top SAT's . I am actually kind of glad I didn't; none of the careers I thought I would enjoy were anything like I imagined them and I met plenty of people who went to college and are now working in the same job with a high school grad except now they have thousands of dollars in depth only to find out we both don't like the job. I am saving to so to college in Mexico with my own money so I can make the decision more wisely and with an almost fully developed brain vs my 17 year old naive brain. Thank you for your videos bro. More teens should watch this to better understand that yes, you are top of the class...but you cannot act condescending in your workplace. Your employer does not give a shit about your club activities and full ride scholarship, he wants you whenever he wants and to pay you as little as he can get away with. You will also probably not be surrounded with people who praise you all the time but with idiots who are here due to seniority or because they simply "know people". Sure, maybe you were special in that ghetto town you grew up in but now you are competing with a sea of people from all over the world who are just as qualified as you and can have more skills than you simply due to where they were born. People skills can mean the difference between getting pushed around your boss and other employees in a job that might actually be good and actually getting the money, respect, or credit you deserve. Slot of students can also get stuck in the "stick it out" mentality and "never give up" but not realize that saying "no" or "fuck it I quit" is valid if your health is at risk.Also now that I've gotten drunk with working adults and partied out with in my adult life I have no desire to party hard with some underage kids and do stupid decisions now that I know what is at stake. Most countries let you drink at 18 so it doesn't feel special anymore and once you've paid bills, rent,and a car you realize you really can't afford a drug habit. Good job as always.

  • @CameronCobb
    @CameronCobb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video Josh. Almost all the points that you talked about are reasons why I’m dropping out of college to continue pursuing my own studies to eventually become a software engineer.

  • @DjMonak
    @DjMonak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In Italy the situation is very similar. I did information technology at university years ago, and it's the same situation you describe: a lot of subjects that I didn't use in my everyday job (system administrator), many things that university never explained to me, and a lot of old technology that was already considered outdated many years ago and no more requested by the market. An almost complete waste of time and money.

    • @tronicbasez1814
      @tronicbasez1814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DjMonak They don’t teach modern technology because they don’t know themselves. The tech world move too fast that is very difficult for school to stay updated. If they try, they would have to retrain their teachers for every 2 years, which is very expensive.

  • @9TxONE
    @9TxONE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Josh!

  • @djsvideodiarys
    @djsvideodiarys 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad I just subscribed to you, I just watched the video you made about your 20s and subscribed. Happy to see you're making similar material! I should introduce you to my little brothers.

  • @elenagarcia3466
    @elenagarcia3466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Totally agree with you, Josh. I'm a marketing manager at 20, I just jumped straight into work. University or "college" in America haha as mentioned is not the be-all and end-all.

  • @lesstessress
    @lesstessress 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m about to be a freshman and seeing those high loan numbers (plus insane interest rates) broke my heart man. I’m just hoping I can make a good career out of it at least so I’m not so burdened in the entirety of my twenties and possibly thirties

    • @harm991
      @harm991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Find a way to minimize the loan (unknown school better than harvard)

    • @ahmedhashmi3584
      @ahmedhashmi3584 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harm991 oh yea! Harvard is just a college that makes your resume look good..that’s about it..

  • @TraceyOsbornHR
    @TraceyOsbornHR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There are so many people with Bachelors degrees and Master's degrees who can't find a good job. I really hope that young people watching your channel will take to heart what you've said. It could save them years of debt! Take care.

  • @ProactiveIfeatu
    @ProactiveIfeatu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    i remember a teacher at my old college told me that you have like 164 hours in a week and if you are taking 12 credits that means you should spend at least 48 hours studying for those classes per week. but if you want to go above and beyond you should invest 60 hours a week for studying.
    And i remember thinking "nah, imma play some League instead"

    • @gwappo4852
      @gwappo4852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao what rank were you?

    • @GabrielTobing
      @GabrielTobing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have 4 classes...
      60x4 = 240...
      Yeah, lemme invent a time machine first then XD

    • @GtfoTyvm
      @GtfoTyvm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GabrielTobing your not very bright are ya?

    • @GabrielTobing
      @GabrielTobing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GtfoTyvm You have a solution then?

    • @GtfoTyvm
      @GtfoTyvm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GabrielTobing all im saying is I dont know who taught you that common core math bullshit but the op comment was 12 credit hours was supposed to be 48 hours studying.
      48 divide by 4 is 12 hours per class a week.
      60 divide by 4 is 15 hours per class a week.
      The professor only wanted the extra 3 hours for students to study and get good grades but let's be honest unless it's physics or chemistry you not putting in that time in most classes.
      Your math made no sense before no matter how you cut it.
      1 class is 3 credit hours, 4 classes is the 12 credit hours op posted. Your math was 60 (recommended study hours per week) X 4 classes when you needed to divide to get what the amount of hours recommended per class per week. Which is like what the op posted 60 hours per week. Your magic common core 240 hours is dumb. Your dumb take a math course please or english course.

  • @chiyerano
    @chiyerano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, so true about not really or easily being able to stand up to teachers. It's like 'do as I say or I'll fail you' kind of thing. This along with the whole student loan thing are major issues I have with college. I would love to go to an accredited college degree program in STEM fields where the only time I have to be physically in a class on campus is when I am conducting a lab experiment, handing in an assignment I can't just email or mail in, or taking an exam. Since college doesn't teach you many important social or soft skills as you mentioned I would rather just do everything else such as lectures, recitations, projects, and everything else online or offline on my time outside of campus. That is where people seem to really learn anyway and not so much in a typical lecture hall or campus classroom. And the program would be affordable to the point where a person can work a part time job and pay off a whole year's worth of tuition and fees at a time without needing to take out loans.

  • @psychomonk2443
    @psychomonk2443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I studied an integrated degree program. That means i got hired by a company to study. They payed my student loans so i am completely debt free. The degree was not really that helpfull in my learning experience but gave me time to accumulate to the business world. They also gave us awesome references (i i.e. worked projects with airport management and a huge clinic) I would do it again even though i would start my side hustle earlier.
    Find the niche in the system!

  • @bossg2817
    @bossg2817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you're not yet in college, enrolled in accounting. Even if you don't want to be an accountant or CPA, it'll teach you a lot of practical things (it'll help when you want to have your own business in the future).

  • @camengadisaputra
    @camengadisaputra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    i learn most of thing from internet than at collage

  • @GOLEG11
    @GOLEG11 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good reflection bro! 👍🏻

  • @xSh4dowNinja
    @xSh4dowNinja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Make merch that says "fluke gang" or "fluke loopers" on the front

  • @jennifersilves4195
    @jennifersilves4195 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My parents told me they’d be forgiven if I couldn’t pay. Student debt ruined my life.

  • @juniper7611
    @juniper7611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have planned on going to school for a bachelors in nursing to become an RN, but part of me wonders if I should instead become certified as a LPN or get an associates from a community college and become a Respiratory Therapist or Surgical Tech. There's so many pros and cons.
    On one hand a bachelors degree would open a world of career paths, but the thought of spending 4 more years in state with the likelihood of debt is daunting. Even if I get an associates or certification and make $40,000+/year at 19-20 y/o my parents (mom with masters in math, dad who had to go into the military because he couldn't afford school, and struggles finding jobs because apparently a bachelors degree is worth more than 20 years of military commitment) would say that I'm "selling myself short."
    I was reading a discussion on a med school forum about whether or not it's worth it to minor in a language. Someone made an amazing point,
    "If you're taking a Chinese Mandarin class each semester, $900-1200 at a time, you might as well buy a one way ticket to China and work there for a semester. You would learn more in those 4 months than in 4 years of classes, plus gain an amazing experience."
    That's sort of been my mindset these last few days as I've looked into colleges to apply to this fall. I love learning languages and am self taught, so why don't I just get a certification and make a reasonable living while getting to see the world?
    Idk, I'm so frustrated and stressed. Why is it acceptable for 17-18 y/o's to make life changing financial decisions?

  • @JustGerlie
    @JustGerlie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Josh, i think this is the first time I commented on your videos. I hope you're doing great. Btw, I'm enrolling on your git course :)

  • @Atheist269
    @Atheist269 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are the best CS channel I've found on youtube. Poggers bro, keep it up.

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think there are more

    • @CameronCobb
      @CameronCobb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I consider him more of a life coach for tech nerds channel but “CS channel” works too

  • @PatxiVergara
    @PatxiVergara 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    What I learned in College:
    1- In labs and group projects the smarty pants lazy the whole thing while the simple-minded do all the work.
    2- Those that were a**lickers get the best jobs and those that worked hard end up in a poor salary job or unemployed.
    3- Not all students are treated equal (And I don't mean people of different races), I mean people who are a**lickers to the professors.
    4- Took 7 courses in math: Pre-Calculus 1- 2, Calculus 1-2-3, Differential Equations and Complex Variables that ended up been useless in my life. Not only that, most engineering courses require those maths, so if you fail and have to repeat them you can't advance in your department courses.
    5- Not a single of the engineering courses I took, have any real-life value in the working environment.
    6- Quite honestly the courses were directed towards someone who wants to be a 'scholar' aka someone that's going to keep their studies to be a professor, make papers or studies rather than preparing students to the job market and working environment.
    What I didn't learn in College:
    1- How to be a professional.
    2- WTF an Engineer does.
    3- How to get employed without been an a**licker so a professor or the school accommodates you in a job. (And yes I do hate people like that.
    4- College never taught me what I was supposed to do as an Engineer or how to solve problems.
    5- I could get my entire education online for free, and I ended up with a huge debt.

  • @filipportman5981
    @filipportman5981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Unfortunately I've wasted my 7 years on the University. The fact that I have to constantly worry about my thesis advisor's mood that he may flip out and invalidates my thesis makes me very afraid about pursuing PhD. I have parents with fixed mindsets about education because at their times education could raise you to high levels. This is not true anymore. I see many families who waste their savings on university and school tuitions when they could provide a descent life for their kids by investing those savings to create a small independent business. I wish I could have escaped from this rat race right now.

  • @ashwinsingh1325
    @ashwinsingh1325 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved video, would be nice to have text laid over video that summarises each point (since title says "6 things" specifically).

  • @FF18Cloud
    @FF18Cloud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I shouldn't have clicked this video and read the comments :/ I already had an inkling of what I was going to read.
    Like, besides the debt (I did get scholarships though), my degree actually helped me out a lot. Did things I wouldn't have on my own. Failed WAY early and got that experience of rejection and how to persevere, learned how much I hated crunch (I was a game dev major, had a lot of late nights cracking open the C), debated professors about UX, etc...
    There are loads of problems with universities and there are definitely problems with the student loan system and the cost of going to school, but still, man, if you knew what you wanted to do was software engineering, and you didn't know a lot about the industry when you're 18, and you did pretty okay in highschool to get scholarships (this is probably the most important part, nowadays), like, I know myself well enough that I have had trouble motivating myself but college, especially since it opened me up to Game Jams, Hackathons, and Code Fests, where as a student, I could help organize a student game festival, etc,
    EVERYONE's experience is different. And unpopular opinion to the comments below, I whole heatedly believe, despite knowing that I could have done stuff so much better in college and challenged myself way more than I did when I went to school, I enjoyed it. Made friends, didn't party, joined clubs, met my idols (I had a chance to interview the late Monty Oum due to being a journalist for my uni's school paper), helped influence future classes, I still "invade" my college and talk to some of my fun professors, while being able to still use some of the facilities of my ol' campus.
    I get that shitting on school is the *it* thing, and DEFINITELY there are traps
    -> like how you feel forced to go to school
    -> how US hs doesn't prepare you well enough, setting you up for failure
    -> how people don't figure out what they want to do that early but are forced to make a decision
    -> how community college isn't respected all that much
    -> the obvious overprice of college
    Like the cons are again massive, but ugh, so much hate. It isn't like for those who did go to school and felt like they taught themselves, did you live in your room and never leave except for class?
    Anyways, this was too ranty and wordy, and I went around in 2 circles with my point. Point is, I enjoyed my college life, did fine, got a decent first job out of school, and definitely had professors who taught me things I wouldn't have learned or understood by myself had I tried self-teaching myself. Stuck to a reasonable college nearby and didn't well enough in HS to get scholarships to help with the cost of college

    • @toastom
      @toastom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. I'm looking at going to college right now and the ones I'm looking at sound like they're great for getting people ready for life after college.

    • @HotepSaoirse
      @HotepSaoirse 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      FF18Cloud this comment is very real. I going back to community college so that way I'm not paying out the ass for said degree. I'm going this route so I don't have to pay $40k-$70k in loans. The thing about college/university communicates that you can stick with something for a long time is bull. There are plenty of things that can demonstrate that like losing weight and keeping it off or learning another language.

    • @rezzbuilds8343
      @rezzbuilds8343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is how university should be done, you got a good head on your shoulders and would probably succeed in any environment

  • @pattiodors8296
    @pattiodors8296 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're awesome Joshua.
    Honestly honest.
    You're not to forget, that it's losers like me, who rate , really rate graduated people.
    And educated people.
    Because it's inspiring to those willing to be good will driven.
    Because can.
    Because want to.
    And because I'm so happy, to be learning still, and love the communications being kept open, and your own self point of view, and truth.
    My own is its own cross to bear , which is why I always tend to take the humanist, and optimistic option, in my own working time.
    The wins I achieve are realistically set.
    None enmeshing or obligation, or embroiling geared. It's very difficult to find like mindedly focused, as everyone is sooooo uptight, and, over vigilante , for it to alter the natural rolling on the river , cruiser control management, and senses for the style lines, of the skater mum,
    and her patience and passion for ,
    higher education and advanced learning and ;
    trades qualified development and then executing in a way which is :
    not about anything other than loving the chance to share, exchange and applying an appreciation for , and gratitude for :
    today's technology and services.
    I'm humbled, and just wouldn't be doing anything other, than hoping in others picking up on, my own passion for the inventive and entrepreneurship, scholarship completing , and stayers being, forthcoming.
    It's so impressive to me.
    So important and impertinent too.
    It's a great thing, to share good moments, and clear thinking about values, which matter to you.

  • @nickschneider6968
    @nickschneider6968 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The ability to not get offend. aka having thick skin- one of the most important life skills they don't teach you in college.

  • @aniclips275
    @aniclips275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you make a video comparing students loans from different countries vs America? It would give a guideline to your younger viewers and would save them money.
    As always, super video.

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont have loans from other countries

  • @lisadioguardi5742
    @lisadioguardi5742 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the most useful things for me was two years of high school drama class. I'm not very social, so if I'm meeting with someone or interviewing I can just put on a character. Also, take a lot of classes in college that make you think about other people. It makes you better at imagining the people who will be using your software/website so that it won't work great for you but suck for everyone else.

  • @MDobri-sy1ce
    @MDobri-sy1ce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I learned in college is staying with one thing now days doesn't guarantee you a job like you said. Now days you have to diversify for job security. After I got my Business Degree I worked on Psephology, Sociology, and Business Law. I am planning on taking a few more law courses this year but I have plans to p switch to Environmental Officer. I would say do not specialize in one thing anymore!
    Ask for internships and e-mail your resume to bosses asking if their are any internships available. I found this out the hard way. Having a multitude of courses and skills is good however, applying for jobs that have almost nothing to do with your focus sometimes leads to a lot of wasted energy and time.

  • @GAPIntoTheGame
    @GAPIntoTheGame 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the casting Witcher signs in your monitor

    • @HackersSun
      @HackersSun 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, is THAT what they are?
      Nice

  • @theartistdiamond9397
    @theartistdiamond9397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The college/university model has been obsolete for a couple of decades; $40k+ for an education one can get online for under $1k. Certs are the way to go. You can still make six-figures (if that's your priority).

    • @chickengod3541
      @chickengod3541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel like the only problem with that is dedication, support system and the fact that some companies still wouldn't consider that good enough. We should definitely start heading this way though!

    • @theartistdiamond9397
      @theartistdiamond9397 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chickengod3541Those are valid points. Maybe the first step toward improving college education would be to audit each institution's degree track versus the cost of providing it; apply some Lean or TPS.

    • @Talishar
      @Talishar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theartistdiamond9397 Or just purge the refuse degrees and keep the traditional ones that are actually needed. Most degrees outside of STEM aren't needed. People were doing those jobs before degrees came out and the overall workload hasn't changed a whole lot beyond maybe using computers over typewriters and filing cabinets. Computer science is a relatively young degree and is an offshoot of electrical engineering. Much of what old electrical engineers did was get tossed a coding manual for what they were working on and that's how they learned to code. This didn't need a degree for a long time. A degree wasn't necessary to be a coder. Just some time and drive to learn the coding. Hell, most of what I've seen from the software world that barely if ever works has already started poisoning other STEM majors like AGILE and SCRUM. It's interesting to me how computer science has developed so many project management techniques yet so many software projects never make it by their deadline. I remember even asking one of my ME professors why are they pushing AGILE and SCRUM so hard when so many software companies and departments rarely if ever make deadlines.

  • @rhishabrajbhandari8788
    @rhishabrajbhandari8788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey, josh love you content man supper inspirational.....Could you make like a vid talking about highschool? You see Im in high school and I'm into computer prgramming and understanding how various tech works. I have made and I am making a few passion projects with various coding languages myself but I don't always enjoy the classes and sometimes I struggle between studying the textbook and doing the projects that I love doing. I just am thinking of highschool as an obstacle to get over so that i can go to college in the USA(I'm from a third country and i want a better life for my da and my sister) and do something in silicon valley. I know this isn't a good mindset to view 2 years of my life as an obtacle....Plz could you just talk about like high school and all the distraction and stuff that there is .....
    love your content dude
    thanks for reading

  • @ikp4success
    @ikp4success 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Make a video about your experience in finland.

  • @jansa940
    @jansa940 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's more then market demand that drives opportunity. there is plenty of demand for programmers and other IT jobs, but with offshoring and also where companies sponsor/hire foreigners on work visa, you become more expendable.

  • @RachelNicole
    @RachelNicole 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was thinking about getting my masters since my job offers reimbursement but I had a lot of my ctos and other bosses tell me it doesn’t make a difference in your pay which I was surprised to hear but at least now I don’t have to spend any extra time in school the BA was enough torture 😭😩😂

  • @sheepman6291
    @sheepman6291 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't know I had to wait two years to get a home after declaring a business title. Thank you. I had been running my business/side hustle for several years, but I never got a businesses title from the government because all the money went into school. This really saved me and my wife a lot of grief. We will make sure to get the home before I acquire a business title from the government. This really saved us. Thank you.

  • @hectornonayurbusiness2631
    @hectornonayurbusiness2631 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    100% agree

  • @EriComicuDesu
    @EriComicuDesu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Hearing this makes me happy to be a swede. While I don't agree with everything my socialist country decides, I'm very happy to have free education

    • @godpilled9077
      @godpilled9077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's not free it's tax payer funded. You are not only paying for your degree, you are paying for yours and everyone else's for your entire life.

    • @amanb8698
      @amanb8698 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@godpilled9077 probably a better investment than fighter jets that don't fly, or tanks that sit in lots, or drones or aircraft carriers etc. or corporate bailouts, or armored personnel carriers for your local police department, cuz thats what US money is going to, and every American pays for that the rest of their lives.

    • @IreFang
      @IreFang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@godpilled9077 still cheaper than being in debt for the rest of your life.

    • @samanthamorris2744
      @samanthamorris2744 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@God Pilled we pay taxes for roads and look how messed they are still . At least they get a degree

  • @harm991
    @harm991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How to get money:
    1. Trade school or University Engineering/IT
    2. Get some experience
    3. Become self-employed and rake in the money
    Go all-in on hard skills. You can always go more social, but becoming more technical after college is extremely unlikely.

  • @giovanninavarro3898
    @giovanninavarro3898 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am not really a computer science or engineering student. I am an MIS/Finance Business major and in our College of Business they start off by teaching you how to interview for positions and how to format resumes since Freshman year. In sophomore year they start teaching a sales class that everyone who plans on being a business major has to take. Then they teach you how to negotiate salaries and stuff. There are GREAT programs in sales too that have a 98% job placement within consulting and sales. (of course, assuming you put in all the effort required)
    I am somewhat surprised engineering colleges dont offer this. Do they?

  • @michaelnicolas7297
    @michaelnicolas7297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Heading into my 4th year of a Renewable Energy Engineering degree which is more on the mechanical side. Kinda scared for heat transfer but did you feel it was harder than feedback controls?

    • @cristi01234
      @cristi01234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Michael Nicolas naah dont worry man heat transfer is not that hard

  • @dum.briyani
    @dum.briyani 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you're the mentor I want.

  • @mccama19
    @mccama19 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow, his experience at university was really different from mine. I had classes 6 days a week, most days were 16 hours. I had scholarships (yay, no debt) that meant keeping crazy high GPA. Partying? Gaming? No time for that. It was tiring and stressful, and in the end the only useful skills i learned were the soft skills.

    • @gerryjtierney
      @gerryjtierney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Liar

    • @ducksoop.x
      @ducksoop.x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      16 hours? How and why? Did the professors just jerk themselves off?

  • @kallesipila1330
    @kallesipila1330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's crazy how you went to study in Finland!

  • @phronessys
    @phronessys 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    An advice video could be good, thx for all

  • @ioneil1808
    @ioneil1808 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly the labs and group projects were the most valuable for Mech E. That and definitely Excel.

  • @JWParkerPhDDDiv
    @JWParkerPhDDDiv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    just a little sad fact but where you get your degree matters. depending on major you want a positive well known one especially in that field. I'm considering a masters from UC Davis but all of my college's are well known for their business programs. I have had some companies like boeing, tesla, and even some media companies try to recruit me as well as government agencies. My work experience was primarily in hospitality so I went with a well known hotel for my job.

  • @regiepedere753
    @regiepedere753 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm also a Mechanical Engineer, all you said are just so real. thanks bruh

  • @jonathanregan5682
    @jonathanregan5682 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is late reply. But i do think that time management is a thing that you should learn whatever your job is going to be.
    I do agree that whatever your department is, you should at least make acquaintance with people outside your department. You never know what they can bring to you.
    Standing up to your boss is a joke in my uni and my country. A lot of unnecessary red tape and only the super intelligent one(but sucks at teaching)can stand up to their boss.

  • @theong9454
    @theong9454 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    RE time management: research papers and figuring out a problem or understanding some concepts dont have time limit esp if some concepts you click quickly or some you click slower
    some stem jobs i've applied to won't let you submit the applications without giving out salary demand. sadHRface.

  • @angelitot3113
    @angelitot3113 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My boy rocking the witcher on all three monitors! I like that

  • @GabrielTobing
    @GabrielTobing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:13 My side skill is business.
    I want to build my own tech company on Ai and then expand later on to other markets.

  • @davidlp6510
    @davidlp6510 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot Thermo 1 and 2. Haha, party life in college are for BA undergrads. In many fields, we study most of the time. In Engineering (especially ME) we study most of the time. Anyway as to business loans have you tried SBA? they tend to make loans for you to start a business and for what I noticed it was not that hard to get but I am sure you know what you are talking about.

  • @spyrex3988
    @spyrex3988 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make a video on why u switched from mechanical engineering to software engineering like mechanical is finna cool too tho

  • @aplicado3120
    @aplicado3120 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I see that I'm lucky, since my college teaches part of what you're saying.

  • @sierranexi
    @sierranexi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just to add... If you miss one payment on your student loans it can severely damage your credit (because it's really as many as accounts as semesters). Know your options and defer or forbear when needed. Also, income-based repayment plans. Don't ever default.

  • @TortoiseCashFlow
    @TortoiseCashFlow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do mortgage lenders care if you have your own business? I'm confused on that part. I have a side hustle making websites but I haven't started in LLC yet. I'm thinking about getting a house in the next year or so will this affect that somehow? I've never heard of that. Unless you're trying to get the loan under the company name I guess?

  • @WomboBraker
    @WomboBraker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    for a native finn, going to uni here is free. you also get government support and government backed loan with almost 0% interest rate.

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I went to school in the US and finla8

  • @somethinginteresting01
    @somethinginteresting01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know this is out of the topic Josh but can I just say that ur 40% Ryan Reynolds & 60% Dax shapard like both mixed 😅 I've thought about it for too long haha and by the way ur right about everything in this vid ❤

  • @GAPIntoTheGame
    @GAPIntoTheGame 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Times like these that I am grateful that I go to college in Europe. Even if colleges in the country I live in are more expensive than the rest of Europe, it is still far cheaper than in the US.

  • @AlexeyIovchuk
    @AlexeyIovchuk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like that wallpaper.

  • @lewismartin4306
    @lewismartin4306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had to go through the process of teaching myself all the stuff that my parents, school and the culture didn't bother teaching me about real life. Modern world is a fuck you to young men and boys. Edit. Thank goodness for TH-cam! Better education from here than my degree

  • @davidmyers2419
    @davidmyers2419 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    lately, they even deny most of those Gov loan forgiveness requests too

  • @aimless-drifter
    @aimless-drifter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before COVID in 3rd year ME school most students were averaging 70hr a week studying. Some people who want good grade live on campus and study 100hr a week. By far the most stressful experience in my life. I have worked as insurance broker, and had engineering summer job, and it was way more fun and I actually played computer games after work and weekend.

  • @AndriusJankauskasJankiz
    @AndriusJankauskasJankiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finished my Computer Science AS and realized how unvalued the degree was. Then went to a city college to get Electrical Engineering BE and am very happy I did. Had some terrible professors, but in the end I had two jobs lined up before graduating. Went with a government job, and even though the pay could be better and the HR is messy, I know this is a guaranteed spot and I won't need to be on edge of my seat every time a company is bidding on a work order. Plus I have time to build my own projects. 4PM, door closes and the rest of the day is all mine

    • @picklerix6162
      @picklerix6162 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some of those government jobs don’t pay Jack but the benefits can be good. Somebody from Sandia Labs came to interview students in my graduating class. I didn’t even interview because the starting pay was so low.

  • @WhitefoxSpace
    @WhitefoxSpace 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Master's of Law graduate here (LLM).
    Yup.

  • @jamief123
    @jamief123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hearing about these high college fees for some people makes me really appreciate the fact that I can go to college for free in my country. The government pays all my fees for me.

    • @TwoDollarGararge
      @TwoDollarGararge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It comes out of your parents taxes someone pays for it somehow

  • @rust.challenge
    @rust.challenge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my country full-time studies are free but so what, in my opinion (studying is just prolonging childhood and acquiring bad habits) and maybe some nice contacts

  • @sunshinerainbows4627
    @sunshinerainbows4627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Students who failed engineering moved to business, partied regularly, and aced the business courses at the local university where I went. Shame engineers are not valued more.