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Watching CEH talk about his trauma on a podcast he did was gut wrenching and troubling. I really pray that he can find peace in his heart. He seems to be a great human being and deserves all the happiness he can get! ❤
21 pts winning by only 2 scores with 6 TOs is pathetic honestly. Chief's are showing all the cracks in the team and while they're as lucky as they are tough, once the playoffs start idk if they'll be able to hang in there.
CEH, you have been a blessing for us and you were never easy to bring down as a running back. Thanks for helping the Chiefs in many critical moments. Wish you well wherever you end up at!
Nice tribute... many comments are on to the next player who can help the team... kind of a sickness among NFL fans... lets put people first, like you just did!!!!
Thank you, I remember a year or two ago CEH going up high enough to make a 2 hand dunk in order to snag a critical touchdown catch.. for a guy that's probably only 5'8".he really went sky high on that one!
I watched the Bill's and Lion's game afterward. Romo talks like Allen is the Messiah, but he has literally...F O R E V E R...to read the field. What we need is 2 really good tackles to give Patrick some time, A... L O T fewer hits. The dude is struggling from no confidence in his protection, and who can blame him? Good luck to CEH wherever he lands!!
Not a Bills fan, but I believe they're going to win the SB this year. Josh Allen has been a #1 level QB all year and the team as a whole has been lights out 95% of the time. Even when their defense is slacking the offense picks it up. I wouldn't be mad about it because the Bills deserve a SB finally.
As long as Josh is putting up 40 a game it's gone be hard for anyone to stop them. We need pat to get back to the quick passes and stop looking for the deep ball.
Definitely wasn't real big on CEH to start the year. However, after seeing his interview with RC it helped shed some light on what mental health issues he's been dealing with. To see a young man so broken up about having to pull the trigger on another young man just shows you how much integrity CEH has. Absolutely wish him success and peace wherever he may end up next.
The reason Thuney gave up so many pressures is because they were dropping back so many times without running the ball. If there is a threat of run, there will be less pressure on pass plays.
Bitter sweet to hear about CEH. Hate to see him go with everything he has done and went through but they definitely need that roster spot for someone that can contribute
@@YuckFouTube2 you have to at least attempt the runs just to keep the defense honest. We had 3 consecutive possessions with all passing attempts that is egregious when you have Hunt and Pop. If they’re not gaining yards switch up the running plays Nagy do a screen or draw or something
@bigg3302 I agree on more screens. I was wondering if Thuney kicking out to OT made Reid want to pass more? Idk but I do trust Reid after what he has done with the Eagles and Chiefs. I hope Chiefs are healthy and have lots of big plays ready to unload during the playoffs
Early in the game on 2nd and 2 they ran the ball twice and picked up -1 yard. They should run the ball a lot more, but their run game is by no means as trustworthy as early in the season, particularly when you sent your All-Pro left guard to play tackle. Right now they are between a rock and a hard place: they should run the ball more, but the run game right now is nowhere near as good to justify taking the ball out of Mahomes hands
@@saflip969 your part of the sickness of some NFL fans... "What have you done for me lately"... the fact is, he is a good guy that put up good numbers and was far from a "wasted" pick... lets put peoples lives first..
@@macdaddyblues1definitely not a good pick,but doesnt mean he doesnt have a bright future elsewhere. Cant exactly say Andy Reid was commited to him or the run. Hes nor even committed to Pop whos definitely better than CEH smh.
@@peydenc4768 So true. Don't get me wrong. Thuney did a good job playing a position he doesn't usually play. If Garrett was a DT and Thuney was playing guard, Garrett probably would have a much lower PFF rating.
Couldn’t agree more. I was screaming at the tv yelling…..you’re gonna get him hurt, and boom!!!! It was bound to happen with that crap play calling. Never been as disgusted with Chiefs as I was in this game….and they won. The play calling wreaked of arrogance. We can do whatever we want, whenever we want, and we’ll just get more points. That seemed to be the mantra. Andy forgot that the idea is winning, not always winning by the biggest margin possible when the situation calls for something different.
I'm new to football, started watching during the Kelce bowl with my family and fell in love with the Chiefs. I learned that other QBs could not hold a candle to Mahomes. TBH, if you saw our QB play this year and didn't know his last name, you would be screaming for him to be benched. Right? All❤️ to CEH. Never gonna forget that backwards one hand catch!
I think the constant throwing was a way of testing the waters. The benefit you can get from doing this is immense, gaining experience, trying new plays, doing “practice” during a game which is far superior than on the practice field, etc.. but the drawbacks from this can also be immense, which we felt the effects of in Mahomes ankle injury. I’m not at all surprised we played this way, because if it went our way everyone would be thrilled. Unfortunately it didn’t, but walking away with a win is what matters most.
Mahomes also injured his ankle in the Buccaneers game and he played through it. I just don’t want him to risk a worse injury trying to play the next few games without rest.
Memo to Nagy/Reid Run a 2 back set with Steele at fullback, alternating Pacheco & Hunt. If the defense stops it, they stop it. Run play action off that set with Kelce-Worthy-Hopkins. Have more screen plays put in when the pressure amps up.
@@joshuaj.2108 I’m 100% with you. I don’t recall seeing ANY play action in the offense vs Cleveland. It feels like the offense is becoming more predictable
Agreed. Made no sense with CLE down two TDs with 8 mins to go. KC didn't need the conversion and as bad as CLE defense was playing they should've punted. Ya, know, it only cost an injury to our star QB....Insanely and shockingly bad decision by Reid.
@archeryhunter86- I missed what play he had his injury on but when I heard they went for it on 4th down so late my first word was "Why?" It wasn't for the division, it wasn't for anything that meaningful. It made no sense
Thank God it's a MILD high-ankle sprain. And I don't think it'll keep him out for long; once he gets the 1st seed locked up he can rest. Let's remember what he did, with very little time to recover, during the post-season in 2022. He never missed a snap and was ready to fight Andy when Andy wanted an x-ray before allowing him to come back during the Jags game. Amazing.
@@SusanSloate Was he getting knocked around & eating grass in 2022 like he is now? Bc you can bet they'll be coming for his ankles & idk how you can poss believe he'll be well-protected & they won't be successful.
I still don't understand how they went from damn near running Hunt into the ground but when you have Pacheco back they refuse to run hardly at all. Now our QB is hurt because of stupidity and negligence.
Personally I would like to see more plays to slow down the rush... More screens and quick hitters like slants go Chiefs .....hoping for a Chiefs Vikings SB .
It may be me, but it kind of seemed like they were practicing pass plays against the Browns in the second half. It was like they knew they had the game wrapped up, so they were trying stuff out in a game scenario with low risk of any serious consequences if they messed up.
Thank you I have been saying that we abandon the run way too early we have two capable backs we need to do a better job of protecting our offensive line and our quarterback by pounding the ball
I want Wentz to start Saturday & save Mahomes for the Steelers. We have a comfortable lead on the Bills. More importantly CJ has been sacked 45 times on 50 less attempts than Mahomes has. The D line is going to feast Saturday. Wentz was an MVP caliber QB, plenty capable of working with a collapsing pocket. Leah on the run game and give Patrick an extra couple days.
They showed on FTF today that Pat as QB has taken the most amt of hits in the league: 102 HITS!!!!!! That should be alarming?!?! And in the last 3 wks he's taken 35 hits!!!
They definitely let Mahomes down. A couple of stuffed run plays should not have led to a complete abandonment of the run. Also, for whatever reason, Mahomes doesn't seem to be seeing the field like he did in the past. Need contacts maybe?
I have so many thoughts. CEH being waived broke my heart. I know why it was done, but I was really hoping he could get in a couple of starts so he can remember why he loved the game. I will continue to send him my best thoughts and will forever be a huge fan of his. I knew Mahomes was going to get hurt eventually. The o-line struggle has been real this season and Mahomes just keeps taking beatings. I’m frustrated that it hasn’t really been worked out and now he’s injured in a short week and last regular game (at home) of the season... no QB = No wins. The math is simple. We need a 95 on the offensive. I also may have been yelling at the screen every time someone touched Pacheco 😂 I would make a terrible football mom. There’s a random fact no one asked for lol.
Cole, every week we play teams that seem to know the blood in the water, they sense weaknesses in our o-line. Pat is up against more pressure now, since 2020. So to your point perhaps Pat’s throws are facing PTSD with the hit and sack nations on him. He is fatigued with throws, but I can say he is progressing away from sacks and INT’s. He is running instead of turning it over. The run game has been compromised basically since we got Pacheco back. Andy is not seeing progress in the RB room, I think they are up against better defenses than previous years. Our passing game is still being improved upon with Worthy, DHop, Gray, Kelce, JuJu, Watson. It’s not the WR room that is compromised but the Arm accuracy of Pat is challenged by all the PRESSURE. Still hopeful, we have the best of the best coach, coordinators, GM, and QB and TE combo that will come through again. Let’s freaking stay Positive about those CHIEFS.. Love your show…
Nagy took Mitch Trubisky to the playoffs and only had one losing season in Chicago. Reid is the play caller. I feel like people forget about his issues in Philly and the pre-Mahomes years in KC.
I'm thinking we ran the ball like 27 times and that's not really bad for the Chiefs. I kinda think we start QB 2 against Houston and if we win start him again Christmas day and let Mahomes rest and heal up. I know coach would have to take a hammer to Mahomes helmet but you got to do what you have to do coach. Wish you well CEH whatever you do brother.
Even if the run game is not working well, you have to keep the defense honest with runs and more screens or short passes. If you aren't confident in the run use the quick pass game and play action. Too much shotgun pass sets with a 21-point or 14-point lead.
About CLYDE. If he was in the frame of mind to play, the Chiefs would have played him. There are teams out there talking about signing Clyde, but it doesn't seem like he's ready. MY PREDICTION is -- a deal was made w Clyde that he would be welcome at camp next year, but they need his slot now since it doesn't seem like he'll be ready this year.
@@DigitalPixel_AnimalLoverHonestly, with how much you sacrifice your body as a RB in the NFL, he'd probably be way happier in the long run. Regardless, just hope he finds something be loves to do and has success in it.
If his head's not in the game, then he's not doing us any good. Hopefully he can work through what's troubling him and get back on solid ground with another team someday.
@@couchwarrior2449 I was saying that it seems pointless for other teams to be getting excited about possibly signing him to play this year. If he could play this year, he'd be playing. He obviously needs more time. And I think the Chiefs are on good terms with him. Maybe his career is over, but if not then he'll be welcomed.
Andy just can't shake his aversion to the run. Sure, it wasn't working great, but neither was passing. At least running drains the clock while limiting QB exposure to hits.
Andy was acting a little reckless with Mahomes safety by forcing the passing game unnecessarily in the second half when the situation called for running. He tries to cover himself by saying that the running game wasn't working, well neither was the passing game and that put Mahomes in harms way! This is all on Andy!
TBH, MAHOMES hasn't been accurate when he is within a clean pocket during this season, something is going on with him he is not playing well. Additionally, the CHIEFS have been exposed, we don't have tackles capable to protect any quarter back. Therefore, we have two major issues at hand; no tackles and MAHOMES accuracy If we don't come out with a game plan to minimize or eliminate these flaws, we better say good bye to a 3peat, even if we get the #1 seed and MAHOMES gets fully healthy it doesn't matter; WE NEED BETTER TACKLES TO PROTECT OUR QUARTERBACKS AND MAHOMES NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS ACCURACY. It is going to be difficult to upgrade our game at the offensive tackles position at this time of the season. Let's see how good is our coaching staff to come out with a solution and remain victorious. GO CHIEFS!!!!
I can't believe how rare it is to hear someone say this. He's had 4 or 5 terrible overthrows every game this year. It's like everyone is afraid to tell the emperor he's not wearing clothes. I hope Wentz goes out and balls in his stead and it wakes Mahomes up from this yips type season he's been having.
Do you think the two things might be related? Or is a qb supposed to not be rattled when he's mauled all season long with the highest sack rate of his career? 🤔
He obviously thinks that been kicked as a dog every game,and having to look at pressure instead downfield,having no time to throw is not important for acuracy.😂. We will see Wentz next 2,3 games. Cause I hope they will rest Mahomes from getting his ass kicked every week.😂 Also,maybe DJ returns at LT. Nagy must go. Today. This was terribly led game by Read on the ofense. Abysmal.
I'm not seeing the Mahomes accuracy crisis everyone else is... Due to injury, the Chiefs WR lineup is young and/or not 100% familiar with the offense , so bad routes and miscommunication are to be expected
Some of this is pats fault. He holds on to the ball too long and moves around too much. The line cannot see him, they are blocking, but when he shifts, it's hard to keep someone contained. Tunes did well but he is not a tackle for a reason. Pat has to get rid of ball way faster, period!!
The most concerning thing to me.... 15, 87, and more just don't look like they're having fun anymore. Even when they have a good play, the joy only lasts a few seconds. That's not how it used to be... Also, gonna miss Good Brother Clyde. He's a good dude. I chose his jersey this year, even seeing the writing on the wall. His actions in Baton Rouge and again at the parade... yeah, that's someone I want to support as a human even more than a football player.
Seems like Andy decided to use this game to work on throwing the ling ball. They could have done much more damage and scored more by sticking to the run and short passing game, but lots a people think the Chiefs use regular season games as practice, and the theory holds up. Kudos to Thuney for his job at tackle. He gave up pressures, but ZERO sacks to Garrett. Not a chance Wrongway Morris could do that.
My top concerns: Offensive production: O line needs to protect mahomes Recievers need to be better breaking man coverage. Need to put up more points to beat good teams
Look here if Patrick Mahomes is really hurt let him sit the rest of the regular season out if not hurt play we picked up Wentz for a reason we could have picked a number of backup QB so let Wentz and the Chiefs go get these two wins Patrick Mahomes needs to rest until playoffs if hurt we already regseason wise did better then last year so rest up and go three peat like planned if needed
Wentz can easily beat the Texans. The problem will be if we beat them 42-17 with Wentz does it get into Mahomes head? Pat has been hit so much it seems to have affected his mechanics. He also isn't seeing open players either.
Cause I think it's unrealistic to think that fatigue isn't playing a factor!!! They showed on FTF today that Pat has been sacked this season more than any other QB in the league!!! And the worst has been in the last 3 games s!!!
No matter what Coach Reid has said about not looking forward to the next games, we had to! We had to save our RB's have our upcoming crazy game schedule. Upcoming games that close together shouldn't be allowed! It's unprecedented, TV watching shouldn't be allowed to figure into things, money doesn't rule if they want to keep the league being what they claim to be perusing safety wise!!
@@blawthompMaybe, things are always being put out there for someone's financial benefit at the expense of another, this part of the world is not in my lane of things, if checking out is the right lane I guess we all will.
Coach has to find a way to take all the pressure off the players! They need to just have fun and do what they do. Too much pressure and it’s been showing all season. Time to relax and have some fun!
Actual tears came to my eyes when you said CEH was gone. I love that guys spirit and will miss him! Nothing but love for that man! Well my husband who had to endure my profanity laced screaming the last few weeks "run the damn ball" will share how I feel. The pass game is clearly not working and Mahomes standing in looking for an open man is clearly more dangerous than the running game not working! RUN THE DAMN BALL! Mahomes injury is the fault of whoever is calling the damn plays!
They needed to run it more at the end definitely! I know it might not have been working the best, but you have a big enough lead, pound the rock, melt the clock. That will lighten the pressure and help you get more favorable coverage when you do need to throw! They have one of the best DE in the National Football League, don’t want him to just have at your MVP QB every play when you’re up 2 scores. Especially when he’s been sacked 35 times so far this season, which has affected (at least a little bit) his accuracy. Runing the ball might have helped end game with less pressures, and more confident and healthy QB… Wish you the best of luck CEH!!!! ❤️
Sad to see CEH go, not a bad RB and a good dude whose mental health was ruined by an awful person. I hope to see him next year in the SB against the Chiefs
Yeah, gotta say I’m pretty disappointed in what I’m seeing from Chiefs fans right now, as far as them slagging him off in the comments. He might not have lived up to expectations, but he still played on Back to Back Super Bowl teams & I’ll always be thankful for that. He also seems like a great guy, who’s well liked on the team.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192if they are saying anything bad about him as a person i’m with. if they are talking about his play on the field i see zero problem with it.
Here's my take on "throwing it too much". The Chiefs don't prepare for a 18 weeks (17 games) season, KC prepares for a 21 games season (20 games if possible). So, when you see Andy doing weird stuff on the field up by 21 or by 14, or in second half of a closer game, I think he's just trying stuff for the post-season, seeing what works and what not, seeing what are the things that can be done and also, trying to make certain things work before they're needed.
I love CEH, I want nothing but the best for the guy and I sincerely hope he is able to climb his mountains and find his role in another team. He is a workhorse and a capable RB.
I went to this game, since being only 4 hours from my house. When the Browns scored finally the whole atmosphere at the stadium changed. The Browns fans woke up. I spoke to a lot of them cause their fan base is so friendly and really classy, and a lot of them just wanted to see Mahomes play. We sat in the Dawg Pound, we had great seats, the constant barking could have been annoying if the Chiefs were losing but the whole experience was fun, I admired their passion for their team despite their record. We lucked out with great travel weather and very lil to no rain during the game.
Nice to get those turn overs, but getting 6 turnovers and only scoring 21 is a bit shameful. Grats on the win, but have a lot of work to do. Sunday's team doesn't have a chance at a 3peat. We're going to need a 2023 turbo shift to compete with the big boys in Buffalo, Philly, and a beat up Detroit.
Seriously. Looking at it wrong, two were in the end zone keeping potentially 14 points off the board. Too many fans equate turnovers for points, I look at them in our opponents red zone or end zone as preventing points, that’s equal in my book. If they scored those two TD’s completely different game, instead maintained a comfortable lead.
I’ll be glad when we don’t get it so fans can go back to being grateful for the team and not expecting the team to be the best in the nfl every season.
Andy & Matt need to have some accountability for this one! There’s no excuse to not run the ball when clearly it works! Matt needs to go next year I’ve had enough of him! He’s turned Mahomes into a guy!! This wasn’t the season Mahomes envisioned for himself that’s for damn sure but It’s not over yet but I would absolutely make it a top priority in 2025 Offense needs more juice!!
Never been so infuriated watching chiefs winning. Why abandon the run?! Why didn't they just put Wentz in way sooner?! Could easily pulled mahomes and put in Wentz the 1st time mahomes got swamped. Looked like they were trying to get mahomes hurt.
I appreciate CEH, he's done great things on and off the field. Maybe he clears and he ends up on the practice squad? Best wishes to him wherever he goes. All love from Chiefs Kingdom
Poor Offensive play calling. Gave Up on run game!! Instead of quick dink passes Andy made Mahomes hole the ball longer than our O-line can protect him. Tackles problems, O-Line lack of holes for our RBs to run through & lack of vertical passing gonna make a 3-Peat very very difficult at best. Congratulations D on all the Take-A-Ways!!!
No, the Chiefs season starts Christman day, and they need to go undefeated the last two games, because if they dont get the #1 seed, you can wrap this season up, and look forward to Caitlin Clark in the NBA, the NFL Draft, and summer camp.
Mahomes may need to hit up Steph Curry for help with ankle supports. I'd love to hear Andy's reasoning about going away from the run. Wishing CEH all the best wherever he lands.
The coaches choice of plays the second half earn a “D”. What were you guys thinking? Hunt needed to be used more. But Andy knows this. Bring back Coach B for offensive coordinator!
I believe they were thinking that they had a 3 possession lead and were in no danger of losing the game, so they might as well use the 3rd quarter to practice passing plays. They do this in every game where they have a lead at half time. That's why almost all of the games end up being so close. They aren't really playing in the second half unless they lose the lead, and then they go back to calling normal plays. The real concern is that with all of the live practice that the passing game has been getting this season, why is it still so bad? Mahomes was throwing to empty patches of grass a lot in this game even though he had good protection at times...
@@frequentfrenziedHonestly, w/ the hits I think fatigue is playing a role!!! They showed on FTF today that Pat's been sacked more than any other QB this season!!!!! It's alarming really!!!
They let Pat down we should’ve went for the 4 and 1 before halftime but we go for it on 4th and 3 up 14 points when the browns was done. Mismanagement of situational football got the young goat hurt.
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Man they should've took mahomes out like we need him for the playoffs 💪 hopefully he's ok and get some rest and heal up gud 💪 LFG 🫡
HbtChiefs we got to win our last three games 💪 we have to get it together let's go chiefs 💪🫡
Link to that black shirt you're wearing
Watching CEH talk about his trauma on a podcast he did was gut wrenching and troubling. I really pray that he can find peace in his heart. He seems to be a great human being and deserves all the happiness he can get! ❤
Nice comment...
Amen
What even happened to this guy?
Agreed. I understand the business decision, but I'll miss CEH. I hope he finds success and happiness.
@@DreammasterFTWhe had to shoot someone to protect a friend.
Only 21 points with 6 takeaways is criminal
No, it’s pathetic! Go Wentz!
mahomes holding the ball is whats criminal. dudes scared to throw it is what it looks like.
21 pts winning by only 2 scores with 6 TOs is pathetic honestly. Chief's are showing all the cracks in the team and while they're as lucky as they are tough, once the playoffs start idk if they'll be able to hang in there.
@@Shane0622 they won’t. They be burnt toast
...oh ye of little faith!
CEH, you have been a blessing for us and you were never easy to bring down as a running back. Thanks for helping the Chiefs in many critical moments. Wish you well wherever you end up at!
Nice tribute... many comments are on to the next player who can help the team... kind of a sickness among NFL fans... lets put people first, like you just did!!!!
Thank you,
I remember a year or two ago CEH going up high enough to make a 2 hand dunk in order to snag a critical touchdown catch.. for a guy that's probably only 5'8".he really went sky high on that one!
@@David-k9x5pwhat was his PTSD for?
I watched the Bill's and Lion's game afterward.
Romo talks like Allen is the Messiah, but he has literally...F O R E V E R...to read the field.
What we need is 2 really good tackles to give Patrick some time, A... L O T fewer hits. The dude is struggling from no confidence in his protection, and who can blame him?
Good luck to CEH wherever he lands!!
Not a Bills fan, but I believe they're going to win the SB this year. Josh Allen has been a #1 level QB all year and the team as a whole has been lights out 95% of the time. Even when their defense is slacking the offense picks it up. I wouldn't be mad about it because the Bills deserve a SB finally.
@@Shane0622 How are they going to win the Superbowl if their defense is slacking?
As long as Josh is putting up 40 a game it's gone be hard for anyone to stop them. We need pat to get back to the quick passes and stop looking for the deep ball.
@@MaceoGreen
I realize JA is putting up really high numbers, but can he do it against the Chiefs defense?
Hopefully not!!
@@Crocoroar Just score a td on every possession. Who needs a defense when you have an offense that averages 32 ppg.
CEH.. Hope someone good picks you up if you are still wanting to play. Thanks for the work over the years, Chiefs Nation appreciates you. ✌️
Thanks CEH, wishing you all the best in your next chapter and looking forward to seeing you on that field again.
Definitely wasn't real big on CEH to start the year. However, after seeing his interview with RC it helped shed some light on what mental health issues he's been dealing with. To see a young man so broken up about having to pull the trigger on another young man just shows you how much integrity CEH has. Absolutely wish him success and peace wherever he may end up next.
I was never big on him as a player, but always big on him as a person
The reason Thuney gave up so many pressures is because they were dropping back so many times without running the ball. If there is a threat of run, there will be less pressure on pass plays.
On the money, not rocket science coaches!😳🤡
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Facts! And vise versa
That and Myles Garret is probably the best pass rusher in the NFL. So after this it’s all downhill
Play calling is not good
You are my favorite Chiefs analyst. You have a perfect blend of stats, clips, insights, and entertainment! Kudos!🎉
Mine too. I always look forward to his videos
Bitter sweet to hear about CEH. Hate to see him go with everything he has done and went through but they definitely need that roster spot for someone that can contribute
like a lineman?
Andy drives me crazy with not running the ball up 21 and 14 points. RUN THE BALL, ANDY. The run game was working.
Exactly
Is it Matt Nagy?
Run game wasn't working that good this game imo
@@YuckFouTube2 you have to at least attempt the runs just to keep the defense honest. We had 3 consecutive possessions with all passing attempts that is egregious when you have Hunt and Pop. If they’re not gaining yards switch up the running plays Nagy do a screen or draw or something
@bigg3302 I agree on more screens. I was wondering if Thuney kicking out to OT made Reid want to pass more? Idk but I do trust Reid after what he has done with the Eagles and Chiefs. I hope Chiefs are healthy and have lots of big plays ready to unload during the playoffs
Why we don't run the ball with two bulldozers in the backfield is beyond me. Fire nagy
They STOPPED Hunt on that 4th & Goal, bruh.. tf are you talkin about... 🤦♂️
Reid has the final say. Both are to blame
@@DwainWilsonJryeah tht was a bad play call tho
Early in the game on 2nd and 2 they ran the ball twice and picked up -1 yard. They should run the ball a lot more, but their run game is by no means as trustworthy as early in the season, particularly when you sent your All-Pro left guard to play tackle.
Right now they are between a rock and a hard place: they should run the ball more, but the run game right now is nowhere near as good to justify taking the ball out of Mahomes hands
Thanks for the memories CEH
Yeah i will never forget the first round draft pick wasted.
Just me looking at it on the business side of things! Lol no offense on him
@@saflip969You’re not half as good as CEH 🤡
@@saflip969 your part of the sickness of some NFL fans... "What have you done for me lately"... the fact is, he is a good guy that put up good numbers and was far from a "wasted" pick... lets put peoples lives first..
@@macdaddyblues1definitely not a good pick,but doesnt mean he doesnt have a bright future elsewhere. Cant exactly say Andy Reid was commited to him or the run. Hes nor even committed to Pop whos definitely better than CEH smh.
I like CEH and all and his rookie year he was really good but injuries and inconsistency has made people including me disappointed
Someone needs to bring lawsuit on the NFL for that schedule. This is not protecting their players like they claim to want to do.
There's nothing illegal in an action not appearing to back up a claim.
Joe Thuney did a good job not letting Myles Garrett get any sacks but he did get pressures. Garrett had a 90 PFF rating.
I mean playing a position you never play and going against the reigning defensive POY and not giving any sacks is a great job in my books
He would have had the highest recorded grade ever against wanya
@@peydenc4768 So true. Don't get me wrong. Thuney did a good job playing a position he doesn't usually play. If Garrett was a DT and Thuney was playing guard, Garrett probably would have a much lower PFF rating.
@@CanIPetThatDogg Spot on. Moving out of position and going against an elite pass rusher was honestly impressive as hell.
By far the worst coaching performance of Andy's tenure in KC. Naggy should unquestionably be fired.
Couldn’t agree more. I was screaming at the tv yelling…..you’re gonna get him hurt, and boom!!!! It was bound to happen with that crap play calling. Never been as disgusted with Chiefs as I was in this game….and they won. The play calling wreaked of arrogance. We can do whatever we want, whenever we want, and we’ll just get more points. That seemed to be the mantra. Andy forgot that the idea is winning, not always winning by the biggest margin possible when the situation calls for something different.
naggy needs to go never been a fan , he makes our offense look sloppy.
bring back EB!
I'm new to football, started watching during the Kelce bowl with my family and fell in love with the Chiefs. I learned that other QBs could not hold a candle to Mahomes. TBH, if you saw our QB play this year and didn't know his last name, you would be screaming for him to be benched. Right?
All❤️ to CEH. Never gonna forget that backwards one hand catch!
I think the constant throwing was a way of testing the waters. The benefit you can get from doing this is immense, gaining experience, trying new plays, doing “practice” during a game which is far superior than on the practice field, etc.. but the drawbacks from this can also be immense, which we felt the effects of in Mahomes ankle injury. I’m not at all surprised we played this way, because if it went our way everyone would be thrilled. Unfortunately it didn’t, but walking away with a win is what matters most.
How f**king tiring is it to see this offense sputtering the entire year.
Mahomes also injured his ankle in the Buccaneers game and he played through it. I just don’t want him to risk a worse injury trying to play the next few games without rest.
Memo to Nagy/Reid
Run a 2 back set with Steele at fullback, alternating Pacheco & Hunt. If the defense stops it, they stop it. Run play action off that set with Kelce-Worthy-Hopkins. Have more screen plays put in when the pressure amps up.
@@joshuaj.2108 I’m 100% with you. I don’t recall seeing ANY play action in the offense vs Cleveland. It feels like the offense is becoming more predictable
That 4 down attempt was stupid
Yup, that’s the play he got hurt on too, up 14 points. Double stupid fr
Agreed. Made no sense with CLE down two TDs with 8 mins to go. KC didn't need the conversion and as bad as CLE defense was playing they should've punted. Ya, know, it only cost an injury to our star QB....Insanely and shockingly bad decision by Reid.
Hindsight is 20-20.
How many times have Chiefs fans complained about not going for it on fourth down.
It was embarrassing. Only needed inches. A QB sneak would have been automatic.
@archeryhunter86- I missed what play he had his injury on but when I heard they went for it on 4th down so late my first word was "Why?"
It wasn't for the division, it wasn't for anything that meaningful. It made no sense
Maholmes injured is the WORST case scenario. I hope he recovers ASAP.
Thank God it's a MILD high-ankle sprain. And I don't think it'll keep him out for long; once he gets the 1st seed locked up he can rest. Let's remember what he did, with very little time to recover, during the post-season in 2022. He never missed a snap and was ready to fight Andy when Andy wanted an x-ray before allowing him to come back during the Jags game. Amazing.
@@SusanSloate Was he getting knocked around & eating grass in 2022 like he is now? Bc you can bet they'll be coming for his ankles & idk how you can poss believe he'll be well-protected & they won't be successful.
I still don't understand how they went from damn near running Hunt into the ground but when you have Pacheco back they refuse to run hardly at all. Now our QB is hurt because of stupidity and negligence.
Personally I would like to see more plays to slow down the rush... More screens and quick hitters like slants go Chiefs .....hoping for a Chiefs Vikings SB .
Definitely agree with that. Would be a rematch from the earlier SB in the beginning
It may be me, but it kind of seemed like they were practicing pass plays against the Browns in the second half. It was like they knew they had the game wrapped up, so they were trying stuff out in a game scenario with low risk of any serious consequences if they messed up.
Yea, but high-risk to Mahomes!!!
Thank you I have been saying that we abandon the run way too early we have two capable backs we need to do a better job of protecting our offensive line and our quarterback by pounding the ball
I want Wentz to start Saturday & save Mahomes for the Steelers. We have a comfortable lead on the Bills. More importantly CJ has been sacked 45 times on 50 less attempts than Mahomes has. The D line is going to feast Saturday. Wentz was an MVP caliber QB, plenty capable of working with a collapsing pocket. Leah on the run game and give Patrick an extra couple days.
You don’t need five running backs on the roster, especially if you’re not going to run the ball.
Browns Bengals Raiders have a history of trying to injure/injuring Mahomes.
And ravens
And jags
And chargers
And jags
Bills
For mahomes to be able to actually throw the ball the o line has to hold up.
They showed on FTF today that Pat as QB has taken the most amt of hits in the league: 102 HITS!!!!!! That should be alarming?!?! And in the last 3 wks he's taken 35 hits!!!
Thank you Clyde. Best wishes and prayers to get healthy and strong
They definitely let Mahomes down. A couple of stuffed run plays should not have led to a complete abandonment of the run. Also, for whatever reason, Mahomes doesn't seem to be seeing the field like he did in the past. Need contacts maybe?
I have so many thoughts. CEH being waived broke my heart. I know why it was done, but I was really hoping he could get in a couple of starts so he can remember why he loved the game. I will continue to send him my best thoughts and will forever be a huge fan of his.
I knew Mahomes was going to get hurt eventually. The o-line struggle has been real this season and Mahomes just keeps taking beatings. I’m frustrated that it hasn’t really been worked out and now he’s injured in a short week and last regular game (at home) of the season... no QB = No wins. The math is simple. We need a 95 on the offensive.
I also may have been yelling at the screen every time someone touched Pacheco 😂
I would make a terrible football mom. There’s a random fact no one asked for lol.
Myself included!!! 😢 Lol! 😂 I've been angry at Andy Reid after every game!!!
@ #1 rule of football; protect your QB 😖
Cole, every week we play teams that seem to know the blood in the water, they sense weaknesses in our o-line.
Pat is up against more pressure now, since 2020.
So to your point perhaps Pat’s throws are facing PTSD with the hit and sack nations on him.
He is fatigued with throws, but I can say he is progressing away from sacks and INT’s.
He is running instead of turning it over.
The run game has been compromised basically since we got Pacheco back.
Andy is not seeing progress in the RB room, I think they are up against better defenses than previous years.
Our passing game is still being improved upon with Worthy, DHop, Gray, Kelce, JuJu, Watson.
It’s not the WR room that is compromised but the Arm accuracy of Pat is challenged by all the PRESSURE.
Still hopeful, we have the best of the best coach, coordinators, GM, and QB and TE combo that will come through again. Let’s freaking stay Positive about those CHIEFS.. Love your show…
Chiefs need Eric Bieniemy back ASAP at OC. Matt Nagy coaching like he was coaching the Bears.
Are you going to put any blame on Andy Reid?
@KEYTV13 Andy has given Matt the gumbo recipe for success but Matt only knows how to boil water. Get Eric back to spice things up.
As someone said before Nagy is slowly turning Mahomes into Mitch Trubisky
Nagy took Mitch Trubisky to the playoffs and only had one losing season in Chicago. Reid is the play caller. I feel like people forget about his issues in Philly and the pre-Mahomes years in KC.
We do NOT need Eric Bienemy back. It was good riddance...
Matt Nagy is a problem. Terrible play design/calling
You are 💯 % correct!
I'm thinking we ran the ball like 27 times and that's not really bad for the Chiefs. I kinda think we start QB 2 against Houston and if we win start him again Christmas day and let Mahomes rest and heal up. I know coach would have to take a hammer to Mahomes helmet but you got to do what you have to do coach. Wish you well CEH whatever you do brother.
Even if the run game is not working well, you have to keep the defense honest with runs and more screens or short passes. If you aren't confident in the run use the quick pass game and play action. Too much shotgun pass sets with a 21-point or 14-point lead.
I’ll always have love for CEH. He’s been through a ton and battled through it to be available. He’s got my respect.
About CLYDE. If he was in the frame of mind to play, the Chiefs would have played him. There are teams out there talking about signing Clyde, but it doesn't seem like he's ready. MY PREDICTION is -- a deal was made w Clyde that he would be welcome at camp next year, but they need his slot now since it doesn't seem like he'll be ready this year.
CEH has been going to school to become a nurse. Maybe he’s going to go on to that life with his new wife. He is a good-hearted guy.
I hope you’re right.
@@DigitalPixel_AnimalLoverHonestly, with how much you sacrifice your body as a RB in the NFL, he'd probably be way happier in the long run.
Regardless, just hope he finds something be loves to do and has success in it.
If his head's not in the game, then he's not doing us any good. Hopefully he can work through what's troubling him and get back on solid ground with another team someday.
@@couchwarrior2449 I was saying that it seems pointless for other teams to be getting excited about possibly signing him to play this year. If he could play this year, he'd be playing. He obviously needs more time. And I think the Chiefs are on good terms with him. Maybe his career is over, but if not then he'll be welcomed.
Andy just can't shake his aversion to the run. Sure, it wasn't working great, but neither was passing. At least running drains the clock while limiting QB exposure to hits.
Andy was acting a little reckless with Mahomes safety by forcing the passing game unnecessarily in the second half when the situation called for running. He tries to cover himself by saying that the running game wasn't working, well neither was the passing game and that put Mahomes in harms way! This is all on Andy!
TBH, MAHOMES hasn't been accurate when he is within a clean pocket during this season, something is going on with him he is not playing well.
Additionally, the CHIEFS have been exposed, we don't have tackles capable to protect any quarter back.
Therefore, we have two major issues at hand; no tackles and MAHOMES accuracy
If we don't come out with a game plan to minimize or eliminate these flaws, we better say good bye to a 3peat, even if we get the #1 seed and MAHOMES gets fully healthy it doesn't matter; WE NEED BETTER TACKLES TO PROTECT OUR QUARTERBACKS AND MAHOMES NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS ACCURACY.
It is going to be difficult to upgrade our game at the offensive tackles position at this time of the season.
Let's see how good is our coaching staff to come out with a solution and remain victorious.
GO CHIEFS!!!!
I can't believe how rare it is to hear someone say this. He's had 4 or 5 terrible overthrows every game this year. It's like everyone is afraid to tell the emperor he's not wearing clothes. I hope Wentz goes out and balls in his stead and it wakes Mahomes up from this yips type season he's been having.
Do you think the two things might be related? Or is a qb supposed to not be rattled when he's mauled all season long with the highest sack rate of his career? 🤔
He obviously thinks that been kicked as a dog every game,and having to look at pressure instead downfield,having no time to throw is not important for acuracy.😂. We will see Wentz next 2,3 games. Cause I hope they will rest Mahomes from getting his ass kicked every week.😂 Also,maybe DJ returns at LT. Nagy must go. Today. This was terribly led game by Read on the ofense. Abysmal.
I'm not seeing the Mahomes accuracy crisis everyone else is... Due to injury, the Chiefs WR lineup is young and/or not 100% familiar with the offense , so bad routes and miscommunication are to be expected
Yeah, he’s not playing well. Oh well. He’s won 3 championships. Our team may very well never win again, it happens to most teams.
Some of this is pats fault. He holds on to the ball too long and moves around too much. The line cannot see him, they are blocking, but when he shifts, it's hard to keep someone contained. Tunes did well but he is not a tackle for a reason. Pat has to get rid of ball way faster, period!!
Trent McDuffie should be called "Jumbotron" or just "Tron" for short.
Some may call that cheating... bt I say it's GENIUS 😂👏
Good luck CEH ❤
The most concerning thing to me.... 15, 87, and more just don't look like they're having fun anymore. Even when they have a good play, the joy only lasts a few seconds. That's not how it used to be...
Also, gonna miss Good Brother Clyde. He's a good dude. I chose his jersey this year, even seeing the writing on the wall. His actions in Baton Rouge and again at the parade... yeah, that's someone I want to support as a human even more than a football player.
It’s the dead goose period or whatever they call it. End of season before the playoffs
Seems like Andy decided to use this game to work on throwing the ling ball. They could have done much more damage and scored more by sticking to the run and short passing game, but lots a people think the Chiefs use regular season games as practice, and the theory holds up.
Kudos to Thuney for his job at tackle. He gave up pressures, but ZERO sacks to Garrett. Not a chance Wrongway Morris could do that.
My top concerns:
Offensive production:
O line needs to protect mahomes
Recievers need to be better breaking man coverage.
Need to put up more points to beat good teams
Look here if Patrick Mahomes is really hurt let him sit the rest of the regular season out if not hurt play we picked up Wentz for a reason we could have picked a number of backup QB so let Wentz and the Chiefs go get these two wins Patrick Mahomes needs to rest until playoffs if hurt we already regseason wise did better then last year so rest up and go three peat like planned if needed
Wentz can easily beat the Texans. The problem will be if we beat them 42-17 with Wentz does it get into Mahomes head? Pat has been hit so much it seems to have affected his mechanics. He also isn't seeing open players either.
Cause I think it's unrealistic to think that fatigue isn't playing a factor!!! They showed on FTF today that Pat has been sacked this season more than any other QB in the league!!! And the worst has been in the last 3 games s!!!
No matter what Coach Reid has said about not looking forward to the next games, we had to! We had to save our RB's have our upcoming crazy game schedule. Upcoming games that close together shouldn't be allowed! It's unprecedented, TV watching shouldn't be allowed to figure into things, money doesn't rule if they want to keep the league being what they claim to be perusing safety wise!!
@@blawthompMaybe, things are always being put out there for someone's financial benefit at the expense of another, this part of the world is not in my lane of things, if checking out is the right lane I guess we all will.
Coach has to find a way to take all the pressure off the players! They need to just have fun and do what they do. Too much pressure and it’s been showing all season. Time to relax and have some fun!
Mahomes needs to learn how to throw the ball more than 20 yards downfield again. His accuracy beyond that is abyssmal.
He's unable to step into the pass with any semblance of confidence. He wasn't sacked yesterday, but he was getting hit constantly.
@trevorsmith2006 this is a problem going back to last year. He is missing wide open receivers and badly.
He doesn't have time
@jp5436 true also
He was not good yesterday honestly
Mahomes could have taken a break in the 4th qtr and the chiefs could have had runs all qtr long.
Actual tears came to my eyes when you said CEH was gone. I love that guys spirit and will miss him! Nothing but love for that man! Well my husband who had to endure my profanity laced screaming the last few weeks "run the damn ball" will share how I feel. The pass game is clearly not working and Mahomes standing in looking for an open man is clearly more dangerous than the running game not working! RUN THE DAMN BALL! Mahomes injury is the fault of whoever is calling the damn plays!
They needed to run it more at the end definitely! I know it might not have been working the best, but you have a big enough lead, pound the rock, melt the clock. That will lighten the pressure and help you get more favorable coverage when you do need to throw! They have one of the best DE in the National Football League, don’t want him to just have at your MVP QB every play when you’re up 2 scores. Especially when he’s been sacked 35 times so far this season, which has affected (at least a little bit) his accuracy. Runing the ball might have helped end game with less pressures, and more confident and healthy QB…
Wish you the best of luck CEH!!!! ❤️
It wasn’t Andy’s best game
Reids play calling has been abysmal, coaching malpractices
Sad to see CEH go, not a bad RB and a good dude whose mental health was ruined by an awful person. I hope to see him next year in the SB against the Chiefs
Yeah, gotta say I’m pretty disappointed in what I’m seeing from Chiefs fans right now, as far as them slagging him off in the comments. He might not have lived up to expectations, but he still played on Back to Back Super Bowl teams & I’ll always be thankful for that. He also seems like a great guy, who’s well liked on the team.
CEH wants to be a nurse - he may just go and have his regular life with his new wife.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192if they are saying anything bad about him as a person i’m with. if they are talking about his play on the field i see zero problem with it.
Skyy Moore should have been waived b4 CEH.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 amen brother
Hey Clyde prsying for you🙏🏾❤
Its like Mahomes is so afraid of a pick he overthrows it most every time.
I feel all season not addressing the OT spot has let Mahomes down. BEEN SAYING ALL YEAR HES GONA GET HURT with these OTs. SMFH
Here's my take on "throwing it too much". The Chiefs don't prepare for a 18 weeks (17 games) season, KC prepares for a 21 games season (20 games if possible). So, when you see Andy doing weird stuff on the field up by 21 or by 14, or in second half of a closer game, I think he's just trying stuff for the post-season, seeing what works and what not, seeing what are the things that can be done and also, trying to make certain things work before they're needed.
Andy always says they'll clean that up!!
And they never do.
@@lance9150 ye they do they get hot and win SBs 😂
I love CEH, I want nothing but the best for the guy and I sincerely hope he is able to climb his mountains and find his role in another team. He is a workhorse and a capable RB.
The Chiefs deep ball threat is non existent this season! 😳
Mahomes is by a large margin the most hit QB in the league and that's the reason why
@jayceh That's my theory too
One of the best RB duos in the leqgue and they both together had 70 yard 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I had a feeling this would happen when his 21-day window opened but STILL didn’t play.
I went to this game, since being only 4 hours from my house. When the Browns scored finally the whole atmosphere at the stadium changed. The Browns fans woke up. I spoke to a lot of them cause their fan base is so friendly and really classy, and a lot of them just wanted to see Mahomes play. We sat in the Dawg Pound, we had great seats, the constant barking could have been annoying if the Chiefs were losing but the whole experience was fun, I admired their passion for their team despite their record. We lucked out with great travel weather and very lil to no rain during the game.
Yeah they should of run the last minutes of 3rd qtr. An come out an do the same in the 4th. It was working in the 1st an 2nd.
Sad to see CEH go but totally understand why it had to happen. Wish him nothing but the best going forward.
Andy claims the run game wasn’t working. Is he implying the pass game was working? I know 13-1 but cmon man!
5:46 Butker's left leg buckled again. This happened the when he injured it a few games ago.
lets talk about HARRISON BUTKER… HIS KICKING TECHNIQUE IS STILL THE SAME AND LANDS ON HIS KNEES… he needs to fix it!
Hopefully the team is ready for Saturday need everybody as healthy as possible and best of luck to CEH in his next chapter
CEH is a dog. Hopefully, he balls out with a new team 🎉
Why did Mahomes miss Kelce so much? It's a shame!
Mahomes and Kelce both look exhausted! And have for the last 8 weeks! OL needs a refresh... period! Luck will only go so far! Go Chiefs!
All those passes and no attempt what so ever to bleed the clock is Nagy's doing. No way in hell would Bienemy have done that.
Nice to get those turn overs, but getting 6 turnovers and only scoring 21 is a bit shameful. Grats on the win, but have a lot of work to do. Sunday's team doesn't have a chance at a 3peat. We're going to need a 2023 turbo shift to compete with the big boys in Buffalo, Philly, and a beat up Detroit.
Seriously. Looking at it wrong, two were in the end zone keeping potentially 14 points off the board. Too many fans equate turnovers for points, I look at them in our opponents red zone or end zone as preventing points, that’s equal in my book. If they scored those two TD’s completely different game, instead maintained a comfortable lead.
I’ll be glad when we don’t get it so fans can go back to being grateful for the team and not expecting the team to be the best in the nfl every season.
CEH best wishes! Maybe we'll see you back some day!
Andy & Matt need to have some accountability for this one!
There’s no excuse to not run the ball when clearly it works!
Matt needs to go next year
I’ve had enough of him!
He’s turned Mahomes into a guy!!
This wasn’t the season Mahomes envisioned for himself that’s for damn sure but
It’s not over yet but
I would absolutely make it a top priority in 2025
Offense needs more juice!!
Never been so infuriated watching chiefs winning. Why abandon the run?! Why didn't they just put Wentz in way sooner?! Could easily pulled mahomes and put in Wentz the 1st time mahomes got swamped. Looked like they were trying to get mahomes hurt.
HOW BOUT THOSE CHIIEEFS
I appreciate CEH, he's done great things on and off the field. Maybe he clears and he ends up on the practice squad? Best wishes to him wherever he goes. All love from Chiefs Kingdom
Start Wentz against the Texans and lean on the run game.
Agree should have used some form of run game more, no reason to subject your star QB to injury.
No reason not to run and kill the clock. It got to the point they knew they weren’t going to run the ball so they just chased Pat
Poor Offensive play calling. Gave Up on run game!! Instead of quick dink passes Andy made Mahomes hole the ball longer than our O-line can protect him. Tackles problems, O-Line lack of holes for our RBs to run through & lack of vertical passing gonna make a 3-Peat very very difficult at best.
Congratulations D on all the Take-A-Ways!!!
Chiefs season starts in 3 weeks
No, the Chiefs season starts Christman day, and they need to go undefeated the last two games, because if they dont get the #1 seed, you can wrap this season up, and look forward to Caitlin Clark in the NBA, the NFL Draft, and summer camp.
Mahomes may need to hit up Steph Curry for help with ankle supports. I'd love to hear Andy's reasoning about going away from the run. Wishing CEH all the best wherever he lands.
Should have ran the ball . Not that hard to figure out. We also should run no huddle more often. Mahomes getting killed. Bring back Bienemy
Good luck CEH, much love brother.
The coaches choice of plays the second half earn a “D”. What were you guys thinking? Hunt needed to be used more. But Andy knows this. Bring back Coach B for offensive coordinator!
I believe they were thinking that they had a 3 possession lead and were in no danger of losing the game, so they might as well use the 3rd quarter to practice passing plays. They do this in every game where they have a lead at half time. That's why almost all of the games end up being so close. They aren't really playing in the second half unless they lose the lead, and then they go back to calling normal plays. The real concern is that with all of the live practice that the passing game has been getting this season, why is it still so bad? Mahomes was throwing to empty patches of grass a lot in this game even though he had good protection at times...
@@frequentfrenziedHonestly, w/ the hits I think fatigue is playing a role!!! They showed on FTF today that Pat's been sacked more than any other QB this season!!!!! It's alarming really!!!
The line just sucks. They are not giving Mahomes enough time. They also can’t run block worth a damn.
The line is good. Mahomes just sucks now.
The tackles suck, the core three are solid.
It's all on Andy and patty.PERIOD
They let Pat down we should’ve went for the 4 and 1 before halftime but we go for it on 4th and 3 up 14 points when the browns was done. Mismanagement of situational football got the young goat hurt.