So just because something requires effort, that means it's unnatural? Ok Ms. Johanson. I guess it's unnatural to raise children, eat right and exercise too.
There's a lot WRONG in your comment, *gigglyfitzgirl* and I assume it's due to you being TH-cam Famous in the Real comments... but, still... How about this? Show us where it's in our DNA to be monogamous. There's a difference between natural and rational. Monogamy, raising children, eating right and exercising are all rational choices. Based on what? Natural impulses. Study.
OneLoveRSR ?? I'm gonna express my opinion whether my comments get popular or not, or whether or not you think it's "wrong". I don't see how the 2 are correlated. We're just going to have to agree to disagree because while I do believe that humans have natural impulses, I also believe that we were born with consciences and free will for a reason. That's what separates us from animals. But my point was to label something as "unnatural", just because it requires some work is ludicrous.
"God gave us free will. We are in control of what we do and our actions, and you don't have to act on everything you feel." ADRIENNE TAKE THIS W! This is probably the most profound thing I've heard you say all season.
Lml Sorry But God Doesn't Represent Free Will He's Actually The Total Opposite And Banished The Devil For Believing In Free Will So That's All Bullshit Lol
This always confuses me. If you're deeply invested into someone, how could you even want someone else? If I'm all about you, I don't see any other man.
@@karlalopez6503 i agree with that, but i wouldnt call those people ignorant or "never having real love". They just have a different perspective on what love is. Are any of us right? Who is anyone else to say?
@@Parisroam I'm saying this because once you found real love you'll never find anyone else attractive believe once you find the right persona ,everyone else will disappear(personal experience)
@@karlalopez6503 I agree coz I've been with my husband 13 years, married for 3 yrs this month, and I see no other man the way I see him. They could be fine as hell, they will never attract my attention. Not interested.
Im embarrassed by this but I haven't had the privilege of experiencing true love or even make love but if I ever do, I want it to be honest, secure and real! I want to do what it takes to keep us grounded but married including pre-marital counseling and marital counseling. My first marriage will be my ONLY marriage!!
Taneshae, you're a sweetheart. But also protect your heart like Tamera said that her mom advised her to do. I was just like you when I got married but then reality hits...Your partner can disappoint you even when you try your best,. But I hope you can fall in love some day
Taneshae Davis don't be, I'm 30 and I met fell in love with the person I'm with atm at 29 . Before that I felt embarrassed of my inexperience and didn't think there was much hope for me. Now I'm so happy that I didn't "overshare" 😉 with people who were not worth it. You never know
Monogamy is not for everyone. But I think they are confusing "not monogamous" with being "unfaithful". Cheating is a whole other ball park that I don't think Scarlett was referring to. Some people do better with 1 partner, some do better with multiple, some do better with none, it all depends on the person.
Leah E the thing is also they make it seem like monogamy is marriage, which in that case it's not natural because marriage is not natural it's is social construct. I just find this topic interesting because monogamy was not something people always practiced, it was something that was influenced by culture and that's why I personally don't think it is natural because for me for something to be natural for humans it can't be influenced by culture or institutions. I'm just talking in sociological perspective but to each there own.
Jennifer Jaramillo It was literally a celebration of 'selling' the daughter to the highest bidder (a family's son takes the daughter off your hands and in turn the daughter's family gave them money). It wasn't romanticized until much later. I believe in monogamy but I don't believe in marriages. There are people who have dated for 10 plus years and have gotten along perfectly fine but as soon as they put a ring on it things get more difficult. I'd rather have a soulmate/ life companion than a spouse.
aiken relkins not only that! Weddings are expensive af. I'd rather keep that money to do some traveling or something else. The concept of marriage is so infiltrated nowadays. People think that in order to have children you have to me married. 😐
It's not unnatural. People just don't want to exercise self control or put fourth any effort. You don't run at the first sign of trouble. And like Loni said, people don't take commitment seriously. And I just said the same thing Adreinne said yesterday. Free Will, self control, You don't have to give in to every temptation or urge you feel.
If it's not unnatural, I wonder why so many men and women are out here cheating on their significant others and spouses? If it's not unnatural, there would be a greater percentage of people who are faithful than unfaithful. And that's not the case. I laugh when people say this society is "monogamous," but we too many people out here with kids from different mothers and fathers, cheating, two-timing, and all this other nonsense. So you have to question it. If people aren't inclined to innately exercise self control, is it *really* all that natural? Monogamy would be nice in a perfect world. But too many people are juggling multiple partners for me to believe it's "natural."
+shinyjewelsz Simple, they don't exercise their free will (self control). It's very much a choice for you to step outside of your relationship or not. Those that do, either didn't care or respect the union from the start, or they let the weaker half of their temptations get to them. But ultimately it's your decision to walk away or let yourself fall into those circumstances. Me personally, I wouldn't. It's way too dangerous these days.
shinyjewelsz It may have something to do with selfishness and lack of self control. If you make a commitment to be monagmous then you should do everything in your power to honor it. If you agree to be in an open relationship then the same goes. Folks out here lack integrity and are all about instant gratification.
shinyjewelsz How do you know it's not the case? Yeah a lot of people cheat, and a lot of people are unfaithful, but there's no way of knowing whether or not there are more unfaithful people than there are faithful. Just like how there's no real way of knowing if there's more good people than bad. Even so, the majority of time when people cheat or have multiple partners that their significant other knows about they find themselves in harmful, unstable, dangerous situations. (STDS, Too many babies from different spouses, ect.) so that alone tells u the real problem here. These ideals that because something calls for a lot of self control or energy automatically makes it unnatural is honestly ridiculous. With this logic I guess not drinking excessive amounts of alcohol is unnatural, because so many people out there lack control, morals, and struggle with addiction. I could give u a list of so many other scenarios, but this comment is already as long as it is, which is why u shouldn't focus on what society is doing, but what it should be doing.
Loni is extremely wise when it comes to marriage, it's interesting too because she's the single one in the group. It's nice to see that she's still hopeful about marriage, regardless of her being divorced.
She's takes marriage seriosuly so she doesn't jump into serious relationships. Also you don't have to be a monogamous for life person to realise other people are
Don't knock monogamy. Just because you have two failed marriages or/and it's not what's for you, it's not cool to deem it "unnatural". Just say it's not for you.
*Oh hail nah, Scarletttt!* First of all, monogamy isn't a question about whether or not it's natural. It's a CHOICE, Scarlett!! You perform marriage because you VOW to uphold the values you and your partner choose. If you want an open marriage, then so be it, that's fine and that's some people's preference. But don't confuse cheating as an excuse that monogamy/loyalty is "not natural." Some people, if not almost all, cherish loyalty.
@ Julia & @ Sofia sanchez romo - I never said nor did I imply that polygamy was cheating. I even said "if you want an open marriage, then so be it, that's fine." *An open marriage is polygamy* and I applaud those folks if that's what they choose. @ Julia - speak for yourself boo @ Sofia sanchez romo - I was just saying in case people confuse "unnatural" as an excuse to cheating. #Checkyoself #beforeyoucheckme #yallneedtoimproveyourreadingcomprehensionskills
@ Sofia sanchez romo - Kris Malone never implied that Scarlett said cheating. Read his post again, honey. And while you're at it, check your sentence. 🐸 ☕
I want to be that old couple that people label Relationship goals. And I also love the idea of a little mini me running around. Half of me and half of the person I love and that keeps me hopeful
y'all really need to do your research before you keep coming for adrienne! first off she was NOT the woman her current husband had an affair with in his previous marriage. second, let this girl take part in their conversations without you all thinking its some sort of cover or something shady for her relationship. and also, stop acting like israel is the first man to have an affair and then find new love. i'm not saying i could ever be adrienne in that situ HOWEVER give their marriage/relationship a chance.
Sarah AAA girl BYE !!!🖐 Her corny was husband cheated on his wife MULTIPLE times, he has children outside of their marriage that neither he, nor Adrienne publicly claim, or even acknowledge!!! It's not about being the "1st man to have an affair," but is the worst type of man to have an affair because he was ALL about the church, preaching all kinds of BS that he does NOT follow!!!!!! Watch old videos of himself and his 1st wife, then watch videos of him and Adrienne, he calls them both, "Once in a lifetime woman." He is the epitome of disgusting, and she was SO ready to "fall in love and have kids," that she settled for anything!!!!
I don't know why everybody has to have an opinion about Adrienne's feelings on cheating. Israel did that in his past. We all make mistakes! My step dad did that in his first marriage but he's different now. Stop always tryna find reasons to drag her shut up!
+#MakeupByBrit Exactly, and they keep trying to blame her for something she had nothing to do with. Furthermore, they don't know how his Ex wife feels or what she thinks cause she never speaks. She probably moved on with her life too.
Thank you!People in these comments are so faultfinding all the timeeee.it's getting really annoying and it's just stupid.He made a mistake and learned from it,they need to stop bringing it up to define "who he is"!plus it was long before hr got with adrienne.This is just stupid.They need to let it go.
marriage should be taken seriously, that's a bond between only 2 People. I know some of you look around your surroundings and see a lot of marriages fail , but remember that's not yours , focus on your own relationship it can work. I'm going on 15 years strong with my husband and no cheating from both sides. you both have to be in the same page. now we're not perfect trust, marriage is work but is worth it.
I think they missed her point of what she said when she said monogamy is unnatural. The concept of monogamy in this world is a relatively new idea and initially, polygamy was natural in humans centuries ago. I think it is not in the natural state for humans to stay with one person but they choose to do so and resist urges to be unfaithful. Marriage takes work, determination and effort. Some people aren't built for marriage.
I'm happy for you..but how long have you been married? Don't speak so quickly yet...Give it time, it's in men's blood to cheat...if they're not following the Bible and want to please God, they will cheat at the opportune time
Lisa Lee Oh I'm not married 😅😅😅😅 that's why I said the guy I'm seeing like we both like each other but we aren't official yet but we're being loyal to each other, we're the only one that each other is talking to
I don't agree with that "who's been married longer" blah blah blah. Folks don't realize some older folks stay because they felt like that's what they HAVE to do. Because of family or financial,etc. They aren't relationship goals just because they're married. You never know the situation. Some stay because of abuse. Religion also keeps them in fear to leave.
In my opinion, when your truly attracted and in love with someone you won't even feel the need to cheat frfr. Yeah, you might look but nah..that loyalty will always be there.
Coming from a single person who believes in monogamy, I needed to see this. It's hard out here for people who want monogamous relationships, because it often feels like we're a dying breed. But I guess at the end of the day whatever works for you is what you should do. And if you don't want to be in a monogamous relationship or don't feel it's "natural" for you then don't trick somebody into falling in love and being committed to you when you know you won't be able to give them the same amount of loyalty.
TheFloralgum loni was shading herself. I mean how long was she married for? 24 hours? Yet she's talking about staying in it for as long as you can. Okay Loni.
I feel like she is saying that because either she has cheated or been cheated on. I don't think people cheating proves monogamy is unnatural. I think it proves they valued instant gratification over their relationship and/or partner's feelings. Heck, I crave junk food constantly, does that mean it's natural to only eat that? No.
I think when Scarlett use the word "unnatural" it wasn't the best word to explain what she meant. I think the right word is "unrealistic" and the statement should go like this..."It's "unrealistic" to think that marriages will remain monogamous" because at some point one partner IS GOING to cheat".... If I might add, it's mostly the men that have wondering eyes which leads to adultery, and this is why I'm hesitant myself to remarry... I'm 100% loyal but I can't say the same about men...Sure, Loni is right that many couples will raise their hands that they've been married for a long time, but this question should follow..."Is there any time in the marriage that there has been infidelity?'" And if people really, really give an honest answer, the answer will be YES.
Lisa Lee know your staement sounds like your coming from an hurt place because belive it or not. not all men or women cheat after being in a longterm realtionship
jb4321able...my hurt is not coming from a place of cheating... I just don't tolerate cheating...I separated from my ex because not initially because of cheating, but after we were separated he thought it is not cheating to sleep with another woman. That was when I exercised my scriptual right as the innocent part and divorced him .
Thank You Beinglively...I didn't meet the right man and the red flag was there before I got married but I didn't have experience. I hope I can find a good man someday, if not, I'll still be ok as long as God Jehovah is with me
I'm jealous, don't like sharing, and I'm loyal till I die. I am monogamous and can't see myself juggling and entertain more than one person unless I'm single and want to do me. Monogamy isn't for everybody and you can't mix a cheater with a monogamous person thinking yall gonna last. The men in my family, especially my uncles, were low down dirty trifling husband's who cheated throughout there marriage( they still married). If I had the same personality trait like them and was selfish, couldn't see myself fucking one person my whole life, and my 🍑 belonged to everybody. Then I would live an honest polygamous life. Or an open relationship and live in your truth and stop dragging loyal ppl in your bs .
Please! Having multiple partners is actually the reason for numerous STDs. There are even new ones being discovered that have been found to be resistant to antibiotics. Even certain cancers are linked to having multiple partners and sexual relations outside of one's marriage. Being monogamous is better for our health. We thrive as a species when we're monogamous and procreate with one partner.
For me personally, I think monogamy is the most beautiful thing ever, like I'm here for it! Old married couples like, clears my achne and grows my crops like, YES!! But I also believe that if you and your significant other want to be in a polygamous relationship, as long as it's consisted then do your thing!! But when it comes to monogamy being "unnatural" I'll have to disagree with her there.
She really basing her belief that some people have a hard time staying monogamous means it's unnatural? What type of weak ass logic is that? It's people out there who can't help but steal so does that make not being a thief unnatural? 😒
BeulaBellafonte. babies take without asking we have teach babies to ask. therefore we are taught not to steal. hence the 10 christian commandments. hence eyptian maat and every other religion emphasizing the DONT's. human's have a conscious which sets us above animals but the conscious must be programmed. some people are unable tohave their conscious programmed hence serial killers, psychopath, etc....
To me it becomes the ultimate comedy with the level of preaching about monogamy and how high monogamy was put on some pedestal, when in reality every other person deals with cheating. The amount of divorces proves it otherwise, just in US it is what 50 % divorce rate? If monogamy was that natural then it would come naturally, you wouldn't really have to work so hard on it. And I am not even a polygamous type of person.
So getting married and having people constantly throw in her face about marrying someone who cheated on his ex wife was her way of staying relevant while she's already on a Talk Show that has enough buzz as is. Come on yall stop reaching.
devin marks She wouldn't have publicized every detail of her wedding if she wasn't looking for attention. She was all over Access Hollywood, giving interviews in magazines and so forth just to talk about her wedding. She constantly had her fiancé on the show to talk about their relationship. I had never seen her in the media as much as she was when she announced her engagement and planned her wedding. She even said herself at one point that she loves attention. Of course she was using her wedding to stay relevant.
peanutjelly just like every other celebrity, I just feel like y'all always trying to find something to complain about when it comes to Adrienne let the girl live her life and enjoy her marriage
myfav0s2012 it must be fulfilling to judge someone from the outside looking in as a complete stranger to their relationship, yall think you know something just because she speaks about her relationship on this show, Jeannie and Tamera do the exact same thing like come now "yea she changed her IG name the day of her wedding how desperate" like please have several seats
Ya'll know Adrienne had to stress that if you can't be monogamous with one person, find someone else just to make her husband feel better about his actions
Loni really pulled through for this segment. 👏🏾 (no unnecessary jokes and good info) And Nene needs to finally fill this void on the show. She reminds me a bit of Tamar except not as haughty and dramatic. Very relevant and genuine advice from Nene . Producers she's a keeper!
Good job Lonnie in regards to explaining marriage. I have people in my family that have been married for 20 30 50 and above years. Thank you for clarifying that just because the person you're married to is going through a change in their life it doesn't mean divorce. It means support. And like you said ride or die partner. Thank you ladies God bless you
I don't believe in monogamy. I believe in everyone having their individual life journeys. We're here to help, influence and encourage the next person's journey, but we're not supposed to BE that person's journey. We have our own journeys to travel and, sometimes (most times), my journey isn't aligned with yours. Therefore, we need to separate and find the next soul that can help us through the next phase. Of course, don't cheat and hurt people... but gracefully part. Not being married facilitates a graceful departure much more than divorce.
Flor Marie Mota Rojas I'm sure she is...and the sad thing is he probably will. He obviously has little respect for vows that he took. She'll end up just like tori spelling.
I don't agree with them saying you can look at other men & women. u are not supposed to lust/covet your neighbors belongings, wife or life. that's a sin
if you look at someone & gazingly say 'oo he/she fine. babe look' that's lusting. small thoughts turn into bigger ones when you play on them. we do things unconsciously & don't realize what seeds we are manifesting.
Looking at or complementing someones looks does not equal lust some people need to read a dictionary cause everyone wants to take words out of context and use them lightly and if youre going to quote the Bible make sure u have a clear understanding of what the Word talking about before making a comment. There is nothing wrong with thinking someone is pretty or attractive its not like youre approaching them trying to get in bed with them
I love the honesty of saying you look at other people, you may notice them and find them attractive but doesn't mean you have to act upon it. I find other people attractive, but I don't act upon it. I'm happy with who I'm with , but like they said we aren't blind
I've been married for 15 years and I don't believe monogamy is natural. Marriage is a social construct and for many, a religious one. If you do decide to get married and you make a promise to be with that one person, then you keep that damn promise, for better of for worst.
Really? Adrienne is still my favourite....Rate the real panel. Here's mine. Adrienne-#1 Loni #2 Jeannie #3 Tamera #4 because she has that "I'm better than everyone" aura. She thinks she's all perfect and she's very sarcastic. I like her twin sister Tia a lot better.
Bailey Jones what the hell are you talking about ??! She gives great advice , and Adrienne has been the same girl since season 1 ! Stop hating on this girl and be quiet !!
So if i may be scientific for a sec, less than 5% of mammals are known to be sexually monogamous (and even that number is asterixed). Also being sexually monogamous (having one sexual partner for life) and being socially monogamous (eg Tam's example of keeping the same stylist etc). So yes it isn't by "nature" that we western humans chose to be monogamous but by CHOICE. To me this "choice" is the most romantic bit of it all :)
Ti. Sonders What separates humans from animals is "free will." according to science, we don't necessarily have "instincts" like they do. We aren't the same so the comparison is futile.
That's right. That's how I feel. I agree that its not natural but that choice to be monogamous anyway is wonderful and to succeed at it is the best part.
My grandparents are going on their 50th wedding anniversary. My grandfather is my grandmother's 2nd husband and she was married to him when she was 20 years old (he was 19) and they have been completely faithful to each other the whole time. My grandfather is disgusted to even think about looking at another woman in a inappropriate way and their relationship is so healthy, playful and beautiful
Lonnie is my spirit animal. Waiting because you take marriage very seriously and not succumbing to the pressure of doing it because society wants you too proves you really can be very loyal.
that's why i don't want to get married. i don't wants to waste decades of my life with 1 person just for it to be a waste of time , or for the love to die out. because i'll be tf damned if you think you are gonna leave me after 20+ years.
I don't think 'unnatural' is the right word. However, monogamy is a choice. You have to choose to be monogamous just like you choose to love and be loyal to someone. It's not something that is autonomous.
Thank you Adrienne omg. Giiirl girrrl . That's so true when your a mature person who knows what consequences , regrets ,right from wrong or the plane old devil trying to get you are ..you definitely won't act on every little thing you feel or think ..thank you girl .
I've haven't found true love yet, but I've seen it. All my grandparents have been married for 40 years or more. I personally have never been disloyal to any of my boyfriends. I completely agree if you can't be loyal it's just the wrong person, or some people just can't be monogamous. Some people just don't have that in them!
I agree with Loni. There is way too much pressure on people being in relationships. So much pressure that people aren't ready or they're looking to someone else for happiness. Find that happiness inside of you. Also, I don't believe that monogamy is natural. Marriage/the idea of having a life partner is not natural either, but it can work for certain people. But why put someone through if you can't stay monogamous and cheat anyway?
They missed the point. The question was "is it natural?" The answer is no. From and evolution stand point at least. HOWEVER, if you do decide to get married you must be willing to commit to that person and uphold your vows. Or at least set boundaries for an open relationship. I believe and value loyalty, love, and commitment. As most people do. But no, it is not natural for us to be monogamous.
Why do people even listen to what these Hollywood stars have to say about marriage? Majority of these celebrities have been married a gazillion times and expect us regular folk to take their advice. Girl bye Scarlet Johnson. Halle Berry too.
I hate topics like this because the situation is never black and white, and people try to solve it with one solution. Its plenty of ways to argue that polygamy is natural and monogamy is not and vice versa. I try to stay open minded and it really depends on the people. For example, most people would get jealous and have their emotions tied into the relationships and other times they just won't care. I wouldn't judge either.
2:26 Loni looks at Adrienne when she's talking about how people just get married for a story to tell, and in another video Loni side eyed Adrienne when she said the word "bad relationships" too... Hmmmmmm
If you’re still looking for someone else and you’re not ready to commit with her, then don't get married. Marriage should be taken seriously by two people.
Adrienne you sound like such a hypocrite. Your new man dropped his wife and cheated with you. You've got some nerve. You should have stood up and walked out for this segment or just been honest.
re2dance they have both said he didn't cheat with Adrienne. It was someone else that he got pregnant (twice?) and then after he split with his wife he dated Adrienne.
myfav0s2012 ya they definitely knew each other and I don't think Israel can be faithful for long either however I don't think Adrienne broke up that marriage.
In the last episode she said her and her husband were friends for a long time before deciding to be serious LIKE U MEAN HE WAS MARRIED & YOU WERE FRIENDS WITH HIS WIFE? Smh
Love this video, I love when Loni bring the wisdom she joke around but she has the best advice when the humor shell come off, Adrienne always has those moments where she just talks to herself, Loni always stop the rambling & put it back on topic, love her lol 🤣🤣🤣, 🤣🤣🤣, 🤣🤣🤣 when your marriage get sour, make a lemonade out of it don't throw it away
We need new perspectives on this show. Marriage is a social construct, most other mammals are not monogamous. Second of all there is a reason why the lovey Dovey phase of relationships only lasts 3-6 months (it's called hormones)- they help us procreate not force each other into 60year monogamous vows. friendship and attachment is what keeps long marriages together- that's natural, instinctively humans survive better in pairs or groups.thats why parents don't abandon their newborns (in most cases)-it's all hormones. Though I would probably want to get married one day, I actually agree with Scarlett, marriage is quite unnatural
Well I hate when people compare it to animals. Yes they are not monogamous. Ok I get it, were somewhat related to them in a way. But for humans it's a different ball game. I look at men and women too....that got babies/partners with multiple people. My point is I look at what they have to go through to keep the family/relationships together, a whole bunch of drama and headaches. Even though you can have those problems with one person but multiple people, It's too much. Someone wants to spend more time than the other, your children parents are feuding with one another, children getting upset because they feel unwanted, someone spreads a disease, someone gets jealous, crazy etc. it's so much drama involved when you're not monogamous.
Clodia Frazil Clodia Frazil yes. Agree 100%. The marriage part (socially constructed)is the unnatural part for me. I never said being monogamous was not...like you said there are other species that chose mates for procreation only, and as Humans we chose our mates based on other traits. This is arguable though, I think if you look closely you'll see that "all other traits" like financial security, good looks, education, warm personalities etc is this same as asking will this person be a good partner to procreate with (evolutionarily anyways). Yes we are not animals like all other animals (we are obviously special snowflakes), times have changed but the nature of things has not. Your comment was insightful though
Chiamaka saying marriage is natural because it's a choice is like saying seeing people based on their skin colour is natural because it's something we chose to do. Believe it or not there was a time when there was no marriage- just because we have lived with a concept for a long time doesn't mean it's inherent in our nature.
You can train your heart not to view other people as attractive, I know it sounds like a fantasy but that's because the media shades it that way. Once you can reach that place in your relationship you get to experience what God intended for marriage. Of course you can always wander from what you built, it is work to maintain this kind of integrity but it is completely worth it!
I agree with Loni I think when people speak in a negative way about marriage it's coming from a place of hurt. Saying it's 'unnatural' to be with just one person seems a crazy statement to make because for lots of us the idea of being with more than one person is unnatural. I know for me the only man I've ever wanted and will ever want to be with is my husband. It may sound like such a corny cliche, but it's so important to marry the RIGHT person, someone that's not just your partner and your lover but also your best friend because when you find that one person they will be all you'll ever want and need. The best type of relationship to be in is with someone that is faithful and loyal to you and makes you feel loved 💖💖💖
Technically she's right because we are supposed to reproduce not be with one person forever, and being married is a cultural thing that society tells us is normal, but with that being said I want to be somebody's wife one day and sty with them until the day I die
It's all about honesty. My partner and I have an EXTREMELY open port for communication in our relationship. We love each other dearly but sometimes we may see someone that is attractive and we point them out to one another. In the beginning we attempted polygamy but it just did NOT work for us. Sometimes the temptation is there if I'm honest about that but that stems from curiosity as mentioned by Adrienne. Do we act on it? Absolutely not but we do talk about it with one another.
SON why is everyone so upset at Adrienne, if what y'all say really happened then it takes two to tango. She's barely even at fault. If he felt like he loved Adrienne more and needed to spend the rest of his life with her then so be it. If it wasn't meant to happen then it wouldn't of happened.
MMah Cisse You He'll cheat on Adrienne just like he did his first wife. He had no respect for the first vows he took don't expect him to have respect the second go around. Ask tori spelling...that behaviour won't change just because you traded ur wife in for a newer model.
MMah Cisse 99.9% of people cheat as a way of showing they don't care or respect the person they're with. People make mistakes, he and his previous wife TRIED to work through his betrayal. Adrienne has been cheated on and cheated herself, is she incapable of making a relationship work?
Like Ne Ne says, "Close your legs to married men." Barely her fault? Please. I like Adrienne. She seems so sweet. And I'm not sopose to judge. But it does take two, is my point. Just know the pain that the wife is gonna feel is a pain you will eventually feel. Karma.
So just because something requires effort, that means it's unnatural? Ok Ms. Johanson. I guess it's unnatural to raise children, eat right and exercise too.
gigglyfitzgirl exactly! Hard work, big rewards!
it's also unnatural to go to college and get a degree
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There's a lot WRONG in your comment, *gigglyfitzgirl* and I assume it's due to you being TH-cam Famous in the Real comments... but, still... How about this? Show us where it's in our DNA to be monogamous. There's a difference between natural and rational. Monogamy, raising children, eating right and exercising are all rational choices. Based on what? Natural impulses. Study.
OneLoveRSR ?? I'm gonna express my opinion whether my comments get popular or not, or whether or not you think it's "wrong". I don't see how the 2 are correlated.
We're just going to have to agree to disagree because while I do believe that humans have natural impulses, I also believe that we were born with consciences and free will for a reason. That's what separates us from animals.
But my point was to label something as "unnatural", just because it requires some work is ludicrous.
"God gave us free will. We are in control of what we do and our actions, and you don't have to act on everything you feel."
ADRIENNE TAKE THIS W! This is probably the most profound thing I've heard you say all season.
But her husband acted on his. ....
And Im sure he's learned from his mistakes, time to move on ok?
Katie ! That doesn't take away the validity of her statement.
Lml Sorry But God Doesn't Represent Free Will He's Actually The Total Opposite And Banished The Devil For Believing In Free Will So That's All Bullshit Lol
dy1228 He banished Satan for being arrogant towards God's creation.
This always confuses me. If you're deeply invested into someone, how could you even want someone else? If I'm all about you, I don't see any other man.
Dee Jay those are exactly my thoughs !!! i believe thwt they are ignorants that have never felt real love ...
Agree I believe the same ..it’s just hard for some people
I guess
@@karlalopez6503 i agree with that, but i wouldnt call those people ignorant or "never having real love". They just have a different perspective on what love is. Are any of us right? Who is anyone else to say?
@@Parisroam I'm saying this because once you found real love you'll never find anyone else attractive believe once you find the right persona ,everyone else will disappear(personal experience)
@@karlalopez6503 I agree coz I've been with my husband 13 years, married for 3 yrs this month, and I see no other man the way I see him. They could be fine as hell, they will never attract my attention. Not interested.
Im embarrassed by this but I haven't had the privilege of experiencing true love or even make love but if I ever do, I want it to be honest, secure and real! I want to do what it takes to keep us grounded but married including pre-marital counseling and marital counseling. My first marriage will be my ONLY marriage!!
There's nothing to be embarrassed about. It's good that you think that way! Get that foundation right!
Don't be embarrassed for having morals.
Taneshae, you're a sweetheart. But also protect your heart like Tamera said that her mom advised her to do. I was just like you when I got married but then reality hits...Your partner can disappoint you even when you try your best,. But I hope you can fall in love some day
Taneshae Davis don't be, I'm 30 and I met fell in love with the person I'm with atm at 29 . Before that I felt embarrassed of my inexperience and didn't think there was much hope for me. Now I'm so happy that I didn't "overshare" 😉 with people who were not worth it. You never know
sem Mabena good for you girl.u married the guy?
I love when Loni brings the wisdom. She jokes around but she has the best advice when the humor shell comes off.
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Eve Yitagesu Loni really is a loving person
Eve Yitagesu are you Ethiopian just asking because I am and you just look Ethiopian to me
Monogamy is not for everyone. But I think they are confusing "not monogamous" with being "unfaithful". Cheating is a whole other ball park that I don't think Scarlett was referring to. Some people do better with 1 partner, some do better with multiple, some do better with none, it all depends on the person.
Leah E the thing is also they make it seem like monogamy is marriage, which in that case it's not natural because marriage is not natural it's is social construct. I just find this topic interesting because monogamy was not something people always practiced, it was something that was influenced by culture and that's why I personally don't think it is natural because for me for something to be natural for humans it can't be influenced by culture or institutions. I'm just talking in sociological perspective but to each there own.
Jennifer Jaramillo very truee
Jennifer Jaramillo It was literally a celebration of 'selling' the daughter to the highest bidder (a family's son takes the daughter off your hands and in turn the daughter's family gave them money). It wasn't romanticized until much later. I believe in monogamy but I don't believe in marriages. There are people who have dated for 10 plus years and have gotten along perfectly fine but as soon as they put a ring on it things get more difficult. I'd rather have a soulmate/ life companion than a spouse.
Leah E I totally agree with having a life/Long term partner and not marriage, just look what happened to Brad Pitt and Angelina.
aiken relkins not only that! Weddings are expensive af. I'd rather keep that money to do some traveling or something else. The concept of marriage is so infiltrated nowadays. People think that in order to have children you have to me married. 😐
It's not unnatural. People just don't want to exercise self control or put fourth any effort. You don't run at the first sign of trouble. And like Loni said, people don't take commitment seriously. And I just said the same thing Adreinne said yesterday. Free Will, self control, You don't have to give in to every temptation or urge you feel.
Tiffany Rayne 💯
If it's not unnatural, I wonder why so many men and women are out here cheating on their significant others and spouses?
If it's not unnatural, there would be a greater percentage of people who are faithful than unfaithful. And that's not the case.
I laugh when people say this society is "monogamous," but we too many people out here with kids from different mothers and fathers, cheating, two-timing, and all this other nonsense.
So you have to question it. If people aren't inclined to innately exercise self control, is it *really* all that natural?
Monogamy would be nice in a perfect world. But too many people are juggling multiple partners for me to believe it's "natural."
+shinyjewelsz Simple, they don't exercise their free will (self control). It's very much a choice for you to step outside of your relationship or not. Those that do, either didn't care or respect the union from the start, or they let the weaker half of their temptations get to them. But ultimately it's your decision to walk away or let yourself fall into those circumstances. Me personally, I wouldn't. It's way too dangerous these days.
shinyjewelsz It may have something to do with selfishness and lack of self control. If you make a commitment to be monagmous then you should do everything in your power to honor it. If you agree to be in an open relationship then the same goes. Folks out here lack integrity and are all about instant gratification.
shinyjewelsz How do you know it's not the case? Yeah a lot of people cheat, and a lot of people are unfaithful, but there's no way of knowing whether or not there are more unfaithful people than there are faithful. Just like how there's no real way of knowing if there's more good people than bad. Even so, the majority of time when people cheat or have multiple partners that their significant other knows about they find themselves in harmful, unstable, dangerous situations. (STDS, Too many babies from different spouses, ect.) so that alone tells u the real problem here.
These ideals that because something calls for a lot of self control or energy automatically makes it unnatural is honestly ridiculous. With this logic I guess not drinking excessive amounts of alcohol is unnatural, because so many people out there lack control, morals, and struggle with addiction. I could give u a list of so many other scenarios, but this comment is already as long as it is, which is why u shouldn't focus on what society is doing, but what it should be doing.
Loni is extremely wise when it comes to marriage, it's interesting too because she's the single one in the group. It's nice to see that she's still hopeful about marriage, regardless of her being divorced.
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Shes been married before
She's takes marriage seriosuly so she doesn't jump into serious relationships. Also you don't have to be a monogamous for life person to realise other people are
Don't knock monogamy. Just because you have two failed marriages or/and it's not what's for you, it's not cool to deem it "unnatural". Just say it's not for you.
90sAreTheBest It was her opinion, she has said it many times.
*Oh hail nah, Scarletttt!*
First of all, monogamy isn't a question about whether or not it's natural. It's a CHOICE, Scarlett!! You perform marriage because you VOW to uphold the values you and your partner choose. If you want an open marriage, then so be it, that's fine and that's some people's preference. But don't confuse cheating as an excuse that monogamy/loyalty is "not natural." Some people, if not almost all, cherish loyalty.
Kris Malone This! 💯👏👏👏👏
Kris Malone polygamy is not cheating lol. You do it with your partners consent. I love how people jump into conclusions nowadays.
Kris Malone honey she never said cheating. It is not the same thing. Check your definitions.
@ Julia & @ Sofia sanchez romo - I never said nor did I imply that polygamy was cheating. I even said "if you want an open marriage, then so be it, that's fine." *An open marriage is polygamy* and I applaud those folks if that's what they choose. @ Julia - speak for yourself boo
@ Sofia sanchez romo - I was just saying in case people confuse "unnatural" as an excuse to cheating. #Checkyoself #beforeyoucheckme #yallneedtoimproveyourreadingcomprehensionskills
@ Sofia sanchez romo - Kris Malone never implied that Scarlett said cheating. Read his post again, honey. And while you're at it, check your sentence. 🐸 ☕
I want to be that old couple that people label Relationship goals. And I also love the idea of a little mini me running around. Half of me and half of the person I love and that keeps me hopeful
Female King Best wishes, when you come across them you'll know!
amen to that
I will be.
Its a blessing, but don't expect a fairy tale....
y'all really need to do your research before you keep coming for adrienne! first off she was NOT the woman her current husband had an affair with in his previous marriage. second, let this girl take part in their conversations without you all thinking its some sort of cover or something shady for her relationship. and also, stop acting like israel is the first man to have an affair and then find new love. i'm not saying i could ever be adrienne in that situ HOWEVER give their marriage/relationship a chance.
Sarah AAA r
Sarah AAA girl BYE !!!🖐 Her corny was husband cheated on his wife MULTIPLE times, he has children outside of their marriage that neither he, nor Adrienne publicly claim, or even acknowledge!!! It's not about being the "1st man to have an affair," but is the worst type of man to have an affair because he was ALL about the church, preaching all kinds of BS that he does NOT follow!!!!!! Watch old videos of himself and his 1st wife, then watch videos of him and Adrienne, he calls them both, "Once in a lifetime woman." He is the epitome of disgusting, and she was SO ready to "fall in love and have kids," that she settled for anything!!!!
Adrienne has said that she did not have sex with her husband until they got married.
don't bother they are dumb... and deaf, you know some people lets satan mess with them...
Alright then
I don't know why everybody has to have an opinion about Adrienne's feelings on cheating. Israel did that in his past. We all make mistakes! My step dad did that in his first marriage but he's different now. Stop always tryna find reasons to drag her shut up!
+#MakeupByBrit Exactly, and they keep trying to blame her for something she had nothing to do with. Furthermore, they don't know how his Ex wife feels or what she thinks cause she never speaks. She probably moved on with her life too.
Tiffany Rayne right seriously get a life and let her live hers
Thank you!People in these comments are so faultfinding all the timeeee.it's getting really annoying and it's just stupid.He made a mistake and learned from it,they need to stop bringing it up to define "who he is"!plus it was long before hr got with adrienne.This is just stupid.They need to let it go.
Your comment bout to make "We read you"
#MakeupByBrit you really have no idea if he's diff. Not like his first wife thought he was cheating until she found out
Loni ALWAYS stops the rambling & puts it back on topic , love her lol .
Jasmine-Marie Jackson she drives me crazy however you’re right
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marriage should be taken seriously, that's a bond between only 2 People. I know some of you look around your surroundings and see a lot of marriages fail , but remember that's not yours , focus on your own relationship it can work. I'm going on 15 years strong with my husband and no cheating from both sides. you both have to be in the same page. now we're not perfect trust, marriage is work but is worth it.
4:38 adrienne always has those moments where she just talks to herself
ranya x I think that's because no one agreed with her. She was OD'ing. I wouldn't do that.
shes talking to the audience
ranya x she's mouthing her approval to a crowd memeber while not interrupting someone that is speaking. its called respect.
Yes she does. I pray she stays married and I pray Tam's husband never cheats. They would go buck fool!!
LOOOOOOL hey
I think they missed her point of what she said when she said monogamy is unnatural. The concept of monogamy in this world is a relatively new idea and initially, polygamy was natural in humans centuries ago. I think it is not in the natural state for humans to stay with one person but they choose to do so and resist urges to be unfaithful. Marriage takes work, determination and effort. Some people aren't built for marriage.
I agree with you
RA I agree with you
you clearly didn't understand my point. No one said that marriage doesn't work as a whole.
Exactly!!
agreed
I'm naturally monogamous, the guy I'm seeing right now we're loyal to each other and I love that! ☺️😊
I'm happy for you..but how long have you been married? Don't speak so quickly yet...Give it time, it's in men's blood to cheat...if they're not following the Bible and want to please God, they will cheat at the opportune time
Lisa Lee Oh I'm not married 😅😅😅😅 that's why I said the guy I'm seeing like we both like each other but we aren't official yet but we're being loyal to each other, we're the only one that each other is talking to
Lisa Lee Plus not all men are cheaters I'm sure! You still have some good, faithful/loyal guys out there! 💯
Girl now 7 months later .. r y’all still together ??
Shayna Dorsey 3 years later, y’all together?
When your marriage gets sour,make a lemonade out of it. Don't throw it away.
kate Cameroon But lemonade is sour too.
But what if you don’t love them 🤔
@@Wealthybaby then why marry them tf?
I don't agree with that "who's been married longer" blah blah blah. Folks don't realize some older folks stay because they felt like that's what they HAVE to do. Because of family or financial,etc. They aren't relationship goals just because they're married. You never know the situation. Some stay because of abuse. Religion also keeps them in fear to leave.
In my opinion, when your truly attracted and in love with someone you won't even feel the need to cheat frfr. Yeah, you might look but nah..that loyalty will always be there.
Loni be dropping so much wisdom and knowledge with so much compassion and understanding! I loved her on this girl chat topic!! so true
Coming from a single person who believes in monogamy, I needed to see this. It's hard out here for people who want monogamous relationships, because it often feels like we're a dying breed. But I guess at the end of the day whatever works for you is what you should do. And if you don't want to be in a monogamous relationship or don't feel it's "natural" for you then don't trick somebody into falling in love and being committed to you when you know you won't be able to give them the same amount of loyalty.
I feel like Loni was lowkey shading Adrienne lmao
TheFloralgum loni was shading herself. I mean how long was she married for? 24 hours? Yet she's talking about staying in it for as long as you can. Okay Loni.
TheFloralgum stop starting drama
Babygirl well to be fair didn't she say she was like 22/23? She was young
LOL> YES!!!!!
Omg I was thinking the same thing
I feel like she is saying that because either she has cheated or been cheated on. I don't think people cheating proves monogamy is unnatural. I think it proves they valued instant gratification over their relationship and/or partner's feelings. Heck, I crave junk food constantly, does that mean it's natural to only eat that? No.
I think when Scarlett use the word "unnatural" it wasn't the best word to explain what she meant. I think the right word is "unrealistic" and the statement should go like this..."It's "unrealistic" to think that marriages will remain monogamous" because at some point one partner IS GOING to cheat".... If I might add, it's mostly the men that have wondering eyes which leads to adultery, and this is why I'm hesitant myself to remarry... I'm 100% loyal but I can't say the same about men...Sure, Loni is right that many couples will raise their hands that they've been married for a long time, but this question should follow..."Is there any time in the marriage that there has been infidelity?'" And if people really, really give an honest answer, the answer will be YES.
Lisa Lee know your staement sounds like your coming from an hurt place because belive it or not. not all men or women cheat after being in a longterm realtionship
jb4321able...my hurt is not coming from a place of cheating... I just don't tolerate cheating...I separated from my ex because not initially because of cheating, but after we were separated he thought it is not cheating to sleep with another woman. That was when I exercised my scriptual right as the innocent part and divorced him .
Thank You Beinglively...I didn't meet the right man and the red flag was there before I got married but I didn't have experience. I hope I can find a good man someday, if not, I'll still be ok as long as God Jehovah is with me
Lisa Lee exactly my thoughts. sometimes not wording ur statement right can confuse people. and then u get hate.
I'm jealous, don't like sharing, and I'm loyal till I die. I am monogamous and can't see myself juggling and entertain more than one person unless I'm single and want to do me. Monogamy isn't for everybody and you can't mix a cheater with a monogamous person thinking yall gonna last. The men in my family, especially my uncles, were low down dirty trifling husband's who cheated throughout there marriage( they still married). If I had the same personality trait like them and was selfish, couldn't see myself fucking one person my whole life, and my 🍑 belonged to everybody. Then I would live an honest polygamous life. Or an open relationship and live in your truth and stop dragging loyal ppl in your bs .
Natural and easy are VERY different words. Laziness NEVER equals love.
Love is an ACTION, people CHOOSE to respect and love one another. As humans we have that capacity, some people are just too lazy to put in the effort.
Please! Having multiple partners is actually the reason for numerous STDs. There are even new ones being discovered that have been found to be resistant to antibiotics. Even certain cancers are linked to having multiple partners and sexual relations outside of one's marriage. Being monogamous is better for our health. We thrive as a species when we're monogamous and procreate with one partner.
Good point!
Natural Fantastic you're one partner can still bring you std's so both sides have to be monogamous but I think men are incapable of that
i agree this whole idea having a side chick is crazy you can catch diseases etc. totally agree its also a matter of communication
Natural Fantastic amen!! Thank You for saying this!!
I agree but flesh desire multiple flesh. Health matters but flesh doesn't care.
Loving NeNe these days! Other shows made her seem so catty but she seems so sweet and funny AND WISE!! Loving these hosts they've had lately
For me personally, I think monogamy is the most beautiful thing ever, like I'm here for it! Old married couples like, clears my achne and grows my crops like, YES!! But I also believe that if you and your significant other want to be in a polygamous relationship, as long as it's consisted then do your thing!!
But when it comes to monogamy being "unnatural" I'll have to disagree with her there.
She really basing her belief that some people have a hard time staying monogamous means it's unnatural? What type of weak ass logic is that? It's people out there who can't help but steal so does that make not being a thief unnatural? 😒
good point
BeulaBellafonte. babies take without asking we have teach babies to ask. therefore we are taught not to steal. hence the 10 christian commandments. hence eyptian maat and every other religion emphasizing the DONT's. human's have a conscious which sets us above animals but the conscious must be programmed. some people are unable tohave their conscious programmed hence serial killers, psychopath, etc....
To me it becomes the ultimate comedy with the level of preaching about monogamy and how high monogamy was put on some pedestal, when in reality every other person deals with cheating. The amount of divorces proves it otherwise, just in US it is what 50 % divorce rate? If monogamy was that natural then it would come naturally, you wouldn't really have to work so hard on it. And I am not even a polygamous type of person.
Loni was talking to Adrienne getting married to stay relevant .... (side eye)
I know what you mean..Loni politely call out people!
So getting married and having people constantly throw in her face about marrying someone who cheated on his ex wife was her way of staying relevant while she's already on a Talk Show that has enough buzz as is. Come on yall stop reaching.
devin marks She wouldn't have publicized every detail of her wedding if she wasn't looking for attention. She was all over Access Hollywood, giving interviews in magazines and so forth just to talk about her wedding. She constantly had her fiancé on the show to talk about their relationship. I had never seen her in the media as much as she was when she announced her engagement and planned her wedding. She even said herself at one point that she loves attention. Of course she was using her wedding to stay relevant.
peanutjelly just like every other celebrity, I just feel like y'all always trying to find something to complain about when it comes to Adrienne let the girl live her life and enjoy her marriage
myfav0s2012 it must be fulfilling to judge someone from the outside looking in as a complete stranger to their relationship, yall think you know something just because she speaks about her relationship on this show, Jeannie and Tamera do the exact same thing like come now "yea she changed her IG name the day of her wedding how desperate" like please have several seats
Ya'll know Adrienne had to stress that if you can't be monogamous with one person, find someone else just to make her husband feel better about his actions
Loni has been my favourite this entire season. She always speaks the most sense.
Loni really pulled through for this segment. 👏🏾 (no unnecessary jokes and good info) And Nene needs to finally fill this void on the show. She reminds me a bit of Tamar except not as haughty and dramatic. Very relevant and genuine advice from Nene . Producers she's a keeper!
Good job Lonnie in regards to explaining marriage. I have people in my family that have been married for 20 30 50 and above years. Thank you for clarifying that just because the person you're married to is going through a change in their life it doesn't mean divorce. It means support. And like you said ride or die partner. Thank you ladies God bless you
I thought title said "is it natural to be one person" I was like what lmao
I don't believe in monogamy. I believe in everyone having their individual life journeys. We're here to help, influence and encourage the next person's journey, but we're not supposed to BE that person's journey. We have our own journeys to travel and, sometimes (most times), my journey isn't aligned with yours. Therefore, we need to separate and find the next soul that can help us through the next phase. Of course, don't cheat and hurt people... but gracefully part. Not being married facilitates a graceful departure much more than divorce.
I think deep down, Adrienne is scared Israel is going to cheat on her too
Flor Marie Mota Rojas I'm sure she is...and the sad thing is he probably will. He obviously has little respect for vows that he took. She'll end up just like tori spelling.
Flor Marie Mota Rojas Yeah she probably is
isreal looks like humpty dumpty... who he gonna cheat with?? lol
Flor Marie Mota Rojas yes am sure she is scared
He divorced his wife and married not even a year later, obviously he will cheat
I don't agree with them saying you can look at other men & women. u are not supposed to lust/covet your neighbors belongings, wife or life. that's a sin
if you look at someone & gazingly say 'oo he/she fine. babe look' that's lusting. small thoughts turn into bigger ones when you play on them. we do things unconsciously & don't realize what seeds we are manifesting.
Looking at or complementing someones looks does not equal lust some people need to read a dictionary cause everyone wants to take words out of context and use them lightly and if youre going to quote the Bible make sure u have a clear understanding of what the Word talking about before making a comment. There is nothing wrong with thinking someone is pretty or attractive its not like youre approaching them trying to get in bed with them
ki- kierra right
5:11 Loni's face lmaoo like munchkin you are a newlywed please be quiet 🤐😂😂😂
TheGreat KpopWorld Loni isn't married and when she was she didn't last long, so in that case she shouldn't express her opinion either.
I love the honesty of saying you look at other people, you may notice them and find them attractive but doesn't mean you have to act upon it. I find other people attractive, but I don't act upon it. I'm happy with who I'm with , but like they said we aren't blind
I've been married for 15 years and I don't believe monogamy is natural. Marriage is a social construct and for many, a religious one. If you do decide to get married and you make a promise to be with that one person, then you keep that damn promise, for better of for worst.
ADRIENNE NEVER HAS ANYTHING RELEVANT TO SAY. SHE WENT FROM BEING MY FAVORITE TO BEING ATTENTION-HUNGRY.
Really? Adrienne is still my favourite....Rate the real panel. Here's mine.
Adrienne-#1
Loni #2
Jeannie #3
Tamera #4 because she has that "I'm better than everyone" aura. She thinks she's all perfect and she's very sarcastic. I like her twin sister Tia a lot better.
come my girl jeannie at 3? she legit preaches my life together!
Bailey Jones I FEEL YOUUU
Bailey Jones what the hell are you talking about ??! She gives great advice , and Adrienne has been the same girl since season 1 ! Stop hating on this girl and be quiet !!
oh honey, the comment section is public...meaning i can say whatever the hell i want. carry on.
So if i may be scientific for a sec, less than 5% of mammals are known to be sexually monogamous (and even that number is asterixed). Also being sexually monogamous (having one sexual partner for life) and being socially monogamous (eg Tam's example of keeping the same stylist etc). So yes it isn't by "nature" that we western humans chose to be monogamous but by CHOICE. To me this "choice" is the most romantic bit of it all :)
Ti. Sonders What separates humans from animals is "free will." according to science, we don't necessarily have "instincts" like they do. We aren't the same so the comparison is futile.
That's right. That's how I feel. I agree that its not natural but that choice to be monogamous anyway is wonderful and to succeed at it is the best part.
My grandparents are going on their 50th wedding anniversary. My grandfather is my grandmother's 2nd husband and she was married to him when she was 20 years old (he was 19) and they have been completely faithful to each other the whole time. My grandfather is disgusted to even think about looking at another woman in a inappropriate way and their relationship is so healthy, playful and beautiful
"Natural" doesn't have to look the same for everyone, or mean the same thing for everyone. Everyone should do what makes them happy. End of story.
Lonnie is my spirit animal. Waiting because you take marriage very seriously and not succumbing to the pressure of doing it because society wants you too proves you really can be very loyal.
2:28 Loni throwing shaaaadeeee
I truly feel like Loni is the most mature one on the panel
that's why i don't want to get married. i don't wants to waste decades of my life with 1 person just for it to be a waste of time , or for the love to die out. because i'll be tf damned if you think you are gonna leave me after 20+ years.
andimangie marry someone that truly wants you
Seriously love you ladies! We need more of you on this planet!
in a marriage when it can't be 'fixed" i think you are expected to wait it out... you love them through the tough times.
i thought scarlett johansson was too busy doing yellowface
Bruh!!! LMAO!!!!!! Love the "Ghost in the Shell" reference.
can we keep Nene on this show because we need someone with a personality on this table
This is such a good question and my answer is a resounding "YES IT IS VERY UNATURAL"!
I don't think 'unnatural' is the right word. However, monogamy is a choice. You have to choose to be monogamous just like you choose to love and be loyal to someone. It's not something that is autonomous.
Nene's man was probably like Ross on Friends. "WE WERE ON A BREAK!" 😂
I really wanted to hear Jeannie's opinion on this. I could just imagine what she would say.
Thank you Adrienne omg. Giiirl girrrl . That's so true when your a mature person who knows what consequences , regrets ,right from wrong or the plane old devil trying to get you are ..you definitely won't act on every little thing you feel or think ..thank you girl .
We'll see Adrienne about moving on when you cant be monogamous to someone else and see how that goes for your marriage.
I've haven't found true love yet, but I've seen it. All my grandparents have been married for 40 years or more. I personally have never been disloyal to any of my boyfriends. I completely agree if you can't be loyal it's just the wrong person, or some people just can't be monogamous. Some people just don't have that in them!
Yeah Adrienne you sip that tea at 04:50
Just came to read the comments about Adrienne. Let that woman LIVE!
Tam looks so beautiful here
"You better be careful who you york up with"
-Lonni 😂 If this phrase isn't a thing, it needs to be!!!
N Roberts God tells us not to be unequally YOKED!
Loni looked 👀 at Adrienne when she said some people in relationships to have a story and stay relevant 😂😂
I hope its real Adrienne💍
I didn't notice genie wasn't there till I saw the thumbnail again.
Babygirl she always has the best wisdom on these types of things too!
I like when Loni gives serious commentary…..
I love the fact that Loni is on this show. In my opinion she brings that balance. She just has the wisdom that only comes with age.
Loni: "Sometimes, just to have a story, we want to get married" *side eyes Adreinne*
LOL!
I miss Jeannie this would have been such a great topic for her
I agree with Loni. There is way too much pressure on people being in relationships. So much pressure that people aren't ready or they're looking to someone else for happiness. Find that happiness inside of you. Also, I don't believe that monogamy is natural. Marriage/the idea of having a life partner is not natural either, but it can work for certain people. But why put someone through if you can't stay monogamous and cheat anyway?
I feel that the society we live in teaches us at a young age to follow not get to know what you like. So the only way you'll know is experience.
I wonder why Adrienne is so serious about cheating? LOL
JackGeezy85 don't start ✋🏼😂
You don’t have to act on everything you feel yesssss Adrienne
They missed the point. The question was "is it natural?" The answer is no. From and evolution stand point at least. HOWEVER, if you do decide to get married you must be willing to commit to that person and uphold your vows. Or at least set boundaries for an open relationship. I believe and value loyalty, love, and commitment. As most people do. But no, it is not natural for us to be monogamous.
Matthew Reyes 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
We needed Jeannie for this conversation I feel like she would lay it all down and take us all to church.
Why do people even listen to what these Hollywood stars have to say about marriage? Majority of these celebrities have been married a gazillion times and expect us regular folk to take their advice. Girl bye Scarlet Johnson.
Halle Berry too.
I feel not all relationships are meant to last forever necessarily, but I believe in like 20 year relationships, and I for sure believe in loyalty!
I hate topics like this because the situation is never black and white, and people try to solve it with one solution. Its plenty of ways to argue that polygamy is natural and monogamy is not and vice versa. I try to stay open minded and it really depends on the people. For example, most people would get jealous and have their emotions tied into the relationships and other times they just won't care. I wouldn't judge either.
2:26 Loni looks at Adrienne when she's talking about how people just get married for a story to tell, and in another video Loni side eyed Adrienne when she said the word "bad relationships" too... Hmmmmmm
If you’re still looking for someone else and you’re not ready to commit with her, then don't get married. Marriage should be taken seriously by two people.
Golden words “You don’t have to act on what you feel”
Adrienne you sound like such a hypocrite. Your new man dropped his wife and cheated with you. You've got some nerve. You should have stood up and walked out for this segment or just been honest.
re2dance they have both said he didn't cheat with Adrienne. It was someone else that he got pregnant (twice?) and then after he split with his wife he dated Adrienne.
myfav0s2012 ya they definitely knew each other and I don't think Israel can be faithful for long either however I don't think Adrienne broke up that marriage.
In the last episode she said her and her husband were friends for a long time before deciding to be serious LIKE U MEAN HE WAS MARRIED & YOU WERE FRIENDS WITH HIS WIFE? Smh
When I see by standers comment on Adrienne and Israel like they know them personally, I shake my head...
Joanna Saad fde
Love this video, I love when Loni bring the wisdom she joke around but she has the best advice when the humor shell come off, Adrienne always has those moments where she just talks to herself, Loni always stop the rambling & put it back on topic, love her lol 🤣🤣🤣, 🤣🤣🤣, 🤣🤣🤣 when your marriage get sour, make a lemonade out of it don't throw it away
We need new perspectives on this show. Marriage is a social construct, most other mammals are not monogamous. Second of all there is a reason why the lovey Dovey phase of relationships only lasts 3-6 months (it's called hormones)- they help us procreate not force each other into 60year monogamous vows. friendship and attachment is what keeps long marriages together- that's natural, instinctively humans survive better in pairs or groups.thats why parents don't abandon their newborns (in most cases)-it's all hormones. Though I would probably want to get married one day, I actually agree with Scarlett, marriage is quite unnatural
i din't say it wasn't for me. i said i would want to get married... my opinion still holds, biologically speaking, i find it unnatural.
Well I hate when people compare it to animals. Yes they are not monogamous. Ok I get it, were somewhat related to them in a way. But for humans it's a different ball game. I look at men and women too....that got babies/partners with multiple people. My point is I look at what they have to go through to keep the family/relationships together, a whole bunch of drama and headaches. Even though you can have those problems with one person but multiple people, It's too much. Someone wants to spend more time than the other, your children parents are feuding with one another, children getting upset because they feel unwanted, someone spreads a disease, someone gets jealous, crazy etc. it's so much drama involved when you're not monogamous.
miniimufin 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Clodia Frazil Clodia Frazil yes. Agree 100%. The marriage part (socially constructed)is the unnatural part for me. I never said being monogamous was not...like you said there are other species that chose mates for procreation only, and as Humans we chose our mates based on other traits. This is arguable though, I think if you look closely you'll see that "all other traits" like financial security, good looks, education, warm personalities etc is this same as asking will this person be a good partner to procreate with (evolutionarily anyways). Yes we are not animals like all other animals (we are obviously special snowflakes), times have changed but the nature of things has not. Your comment was insightful though
Chiamaka saying marriage is natural because it's a choice is like saying seeing people based on their skin colour is natural because it's something we chose to do. Believe it or not there was a time when there was no marriage- just because we have lived with a concept for a long time doesn't mean it's inherent in our nature.
You can train your heart not to view other people as attractive, I know it sounds like a fantasy but that's because the media shades it that way. Once you can reach that place in your relationship you get to experience what God intended for marriage. Of course you can always wander from what you built, it is work to maintain this kind of integrity but it is completely worth it!
It is natural to be with just one person. God made one woman for Adam.
Yeah, Tam Tam! LOL
Mari S LoL exactly! These famous people sometimes just say the most unnerving things😒😑
Amen
GiGi these people are unhappy with themselves.
I didn't think I would like NeNe. But I love her. She brings so much to this show.
keep Nene leakes, ! the chemistry is great !
I agree with Loni I think when people speak in a negative way about marriage it's coming from a place of hurt. Saying it's 'unnatural' to be with just one person seems a crazy statement to make because for lots of us the idea of being with more than one person is unnatural. I know for me the only man I've ever wanted and will ever want to be with is my husband. It may sound like such a corny cliche, but it's so important to marry the RIGHT person, someone that's not just your partner and your lover but also your best friend because when you find that one person they will be all you'll ever want and need. The best type of relationship to be in is with someone that is faithful and loyal to you and makes you feel loved 💖💖💖
Technically she's right because we are supposed to reproduce not be with one person forever, and being married is a cultural thing that society tells us is normal, but with that being said I want to be somebody's wife one day and sty with them until the day I die
It's all about honesty. My partner and I have an EXTREMELY open port for communication in our relationship. We love each other dearly but sometimes we may see someone that is attractive and we point them out to one another. In the beginning we attempted polygamy but it just did NOT work for us. Sometimes the temptation is there if I'm honest about that but that stems from curiosity as mentioned by Adrienne. Do we act on it? Absolutely not but we do talk about it with one another.
SON why is everyone so upset at Adrienne, if what y'all say really happened then it takes two to tango. She's barely even at fault. If he felt like he loved Adrienne more and needed to spend the rest of his life with her then so be it. If it wasn't meant to happen then it wouldn't of happened.
MMah Cisse You
He'll cheat on Adrienne just like he did his first wife. He had no respect for the first vows he took don't expect him to have respect the second go around. Ask tori spelling...that behaviour won't change just because you traded ur wife in for a newer model.
MMah Cisse 99.9% of people cheat as a way of showing they don't care or respect the person they're with. People make mistakes, he and his previous wife TRIED to work through his betrayal. Adrienne has been cheated on and cheated herself, is she incapable of making a relationship work?
re2dance all I'm saying is why the hell are y'all putting all the blame on Adrienne, he couldn't stopped it but he didn't
Like Ne Ne says, "Close your legs to married men." Barely her fault? Please. I like Adrienne. She seems so sweet. And I'm not sopose to judge. But it does take two, is my point. Just know the pain that the wife is gonna feel is a pain you will eventually feel. Karma.
Sometimes I think I need another person for my other moods. But balancing more than one is a headache
Loni's makeup is bomb
Loni, preach! Marriages are to stick with it till the end, make it work. Dropping marriage is not an option, or something to take lightly.