The Making of Wing Commander 3: Heart of The Tiger (60p)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2015
  • This is the documentary by Adam Foshko that came on a VHS tape with special editions of Wing Commander 3 (the "filmcan" release). While this video is already on TH-cam in various forms, this particular version was run through my videotape restoration process, which performs the following:
    - Removes most helical-scan tape head noise while retaining detail (without ringing)
    - Converts the original 30i interlaced material to 60p progressive material, enhanced using motion-directed analysis of each field
    This process is very CPU-intensive and converts footage at roughly 3 frames per second on a 3GHz 8-core system. Before and after image comparison: imgur.com/gzoAzm1
    While no conversion process can add detail where none exists, I am very confident in saying that my process is excellent at retaining the detail present in the original, and that this version is (as of 2015) the very best version available on TH-cam. A good place to compare quality is during interview footage sections, such as at the 10-minute mark.
    If you'd like me to convert one of your videotapes, DVDs, or other 30i interlaced video footage with results similar to this video, drop me a line.
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  • @LGR
    @LGR 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Fantastic conversion of this, thanks for going through the trouble!

  • @RegScheepers
    @RegScheepers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I miss this game and WC4 so much. It doesn't feel like anyone managed to make something quite as good and engrossing as this series even with modern tech.

    • @bobbinsthethird
      @bobbinsthethird ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What do you think about Star Citizen?

    • @regscheepers6752
      @regscheepers6752 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bobbinsthethird Never heard of it. Looking at a few clips now. Looks incredible. Thanks for the reference.

    • @alejandrokaled197
      @alejandrokaled197 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Freespace 1 & 2 were very close. But yeah, they don't make it like this anymore. One day tough, one day.
      We have the tech but not the heart in the right place. Only bussiness.

    • @alejandrokaled197
      @alejandrokaled197 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RegScheepers If you can go and get them, I think they are available on GoG and in store -for sure- on Steam. Even now there's a small but great moddig Community that has graphics mods to boost the experience. But if you ask me the game it's fine as it Is!
      Belive me they are really unique experinces, please don't miss them out.
      I live in Argentina and I only got them by chance when I was a youngster and was browsing the game store. I said this cause back then it was really hard to get games in here, now with the digital stuff it's more Easy but you can't beat the old packaging of a manual, a cdrom all inside a big shiny box! Jaja good times!

  • @markcritic2409
    @markcritic2409 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Whoa! I didn't realize John Rhys-Davies was the voice of Thrakhath!!

  • @tldogmeat
    @tldogmeat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ginger (Lynn) Allen and WC3 were big parts of my youth. Confusing times.

  • @XboxNL30180
    @XboxNL30180 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of my favorite games of all time
    Wing Commander 3

  • @BeyondTheScanlines
    @BeyondTheScanlines 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The result looks amazing. Despite being a fan of WC3, I'd never actually seen this before - so many thanks for taking the time to process it and upload it.

  • @retroshade75
    @retroshade75 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loved this, I played Wing Commander 3 on the 3DO and 4 on the PlayStation, I still remember everything about 3, all the missions ( The Behemoth anyone!? ), the characters ( Rachel - Ginger Lynn Allen 🔥), the story, the Kilrathi in particular Prince Thrakhath an enemy I have never forgotten, the ships my favourite being the T-38 Thunderbolt, basically everything, what a fantastic game it was and at 30 years old it's still better than modern crap today in my admittedly nostalgic opinion!

  • @s3vR3x
    @s3vR3x 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Jim, your restoration process is most impressive.

  • @EnoTnaived
    @EnoTnaived ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have to thank you Chris for Wing Commander 3 and 4! You give me hours and hours of greatfull entertainment. I also have to say that the translaters who translate into german, do a perfect. It is a shame that, after the fantastic WC 3 and 4 games, no other parts came out in this high standard quality. Thank you Chris..., thank you!🤘🙂🤘

  • @Werewolfmage
    @Werewolfmage ปีที่แล้ว +3

    they need to remaster this game so bad.

  • @volcano83
    @volcano83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing great quality behind the scenes stuff of something that meant a lot to me many years ago is astonishing

  • @MaxiZamac
    @MaxiZamac ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the best games of the DOS era.

  • @bahbahblacksheep311
    @bahbahblacksheep311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:42 bruh sporting the pink popped collar in 1994 was ahead of his time

  • @alejandrokaled197
    @alejandrokaled197 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this amazing pice of history!!

  • @rezuankhalid5407
    @rezuankhalid5407 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tom Wilson aka Biff Tanner of Back to the Future series as Maniac. ❤

  • @th3mdt
    @th3mdt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, does this look better than the AVI file on the "Wing Commander III: Behind the Screens" CD-ROM. That thing was... lemme check...
    240x180, 847kbps, 14.985fps, with audio in 88.2kbps, 11.025kHz, 8 bits, mono, PCM.

  • @markbrooks8623
    @markbrooks8623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

    • @JimLeonard
      @JimLeonard  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank YOU! Every little bit helps!

  • @therealmovieman
    @therealmovieman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job i would love a streaming series with Mark Hamill

  • @pyttpytts2690
    @pyttpytts2690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find it very impressive how they made the cats
    14:20 Malcom Mcdowel sure is right about that

  • @georgeduncan9443
    @georgeduncan9443 ปีที่แล้ว

    how interesting to see malcolm mcdowell hit the nail on the head when he predicts the future of movie making !

  • @cehaem2
    @cehaem2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ironically, Gingen (Lynn) Allen delivered the best acting performance. You can tell Mark Hamill didn't really want to be there.

    • @JimLeonard
      @JimLeonard  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Her acting was very natural; makes you wonder what kind of a career she would have had as a traditionally actress.

  • @captjolly107
    @captjolly107 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So many great memories from this game. Never got around to seeing this back then, as my fam could only afford the used cds XD
    Really was quite an achievement back then, wasn't it.
    It pains me to see Chris Roberts before the madness of SC took him.
    Thanks for uploading and restoring it! :)

  • @Uejji
    @Uejji หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this, but "60p" means each frame has 60 vertical lines of pixels and is displayed as an entire frame (Progressive scan, as opposed to interlaced). I guess you were looking for "60 fps"

  • @Tecnotrucker80
    @Tecnotrucker80 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never knew Rachel is involved in different Media 😆

  • @arcadealchemist
    @arcadealchemist ปีที่แล้ว

    to think Mark hammle destroyed Thundera and made the thundercats homeless.

  • @tiefensucht
    @tiefensucht ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder why we don't have such games anymore, now that filming is way easier and cheaper than back in the days.

    • @JimLeonard
      @JimLeonard  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You might want to check out The Tesla Effect, a new(ish) adventure game from the Tex Murphy people that has modern FMV in it.

  • @SomeOne-fx9kr
    @SomeOne-fx9kr ปีที่แล้ว

    5:41 I didn't know Magnus Carlsen worked on Wing Commander III.

  • @LocalAitch
    @LocalAitch 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Impressed at the quality of this video. Wish more people would give a crap about the quality of old stuff, mainly for the motion fluidity. I have a ratty-ass copy of the Press Your Luck pilot (and two ratty-ass copies of its predecessor Second Chance's third pilot), and I'd rather watch them than the 30fps crap floating around here.

    • @JimLeonard
      @JimLeonard  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +localhbci Means a lot to me, thanks for the kind words. Hopefully people didn't throw away their tapes once they grabbed them at 30fps.

    • @JimLeonard
      @JimLeonard  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +localhbci BTW I don't mind converting VHS with rare/uncommon/unreleased material on it. Contact me privately if you'd like me to transfer this material.

    • @LocalAitch
      @LocalAitch 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jim Leonard well, unfortunately the material in question has limited recovery potential as I received it already transferred to DVD, and the source VHS tapes were already very low quality multi-generational copies (as is common in the game show world). I'm the kind of guy who is more interested in the concepts and techniques at play as opposed to having someone else handle it. I'm sure you can appreciate that greatly :)

    • @LocalAitch
      @LocalAitch 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are also numerous timebase errors, especially on the PYL pilot. It would almost require an easy way to manually shift scanlines left and right for optimal recovery.

    • @JimLeonard
      @JimLeonard  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some tbcs can do that, as can some svhs vcr embedded tbcs. It isn't perfect but it is better than nothing. I keep hearing rumblings of an avisynth plugin but nobody seems to finish writing one.

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you use QTGMC? I've used that for many of my recent videos, with excellent results. The motion smoothness is startling even when watching this at 30p, because we've become so used to most TV productions using "film look" 24 fps.

    • @JimLeonard
      @JimLeonard  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +vwestlife QTGMC is indeed what I use for deinterlacing, although only for real-world footage. For synthetic footage like my CGA game captures, it falls over (even with the SourceMatch and Lossless options) so I SeparateFields and do it myself as the footage dictates.
      I love all framerates. What bugs me is when people take an obviously 30i/60p source (like video shot on videotape, newscast, live sporting event, etc.) and process/encode/upload at 30p or 24p. It gives me hives.

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jim Leonard Deinterlacing late '90s sitcoms will give you nightmares. Many of them were shot at 24fps and then telecined and edited at 60i, so almost every time there's a scene change, it breaks the 2:3 pulldown cadence!

    • @JimLeonard
      @JimLeonard  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      That does not bother me. What really bothers me is when shows are shot in 24p and then add 30i effects, like outer limits (1995) or even some episodes of sttng. That's why I love the sttng blurays, they were completely remastered from the ground up from the original film elements and had brand new computer graphics generated for them.

    • @NJRoadfan
      @NJRoadfan 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jim Leonard QTGMC, bringing even the latest CPUs to their knees. Could be a great benchmark test. Makes Crysis look fast in comparison:P
      CGA footage is technically 60p to begin with, best to just unweave it, or find a capture card that can do native 240p captures.
      Also, you may want to show folks the actual capture setup and explain the hardware used. Who doesn't like some hardware videos?

  • @redfieldblair
    @redfieldblair 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's stunning quality.
    What kind of quality gains do you think might be possible with the interlaced WCIV DVD files?

    • @JimLeonard
      @JimLeonard  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      redfieldblair Similar to this (I've played the DVD version using a DVD decoder card)

  • @markbrooks8623
    @markbrooks8623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know Tom Wilson may have played some awful characters but he seems like a fun guy to make a movie with.

    • @JimLeonard
      @JimLeonard  ปีที่แล้ว

      Tom is an outstanding, funny, decent guy. You should check out his TH-cam channel.

  • @jarrodm9299
    @jarrodm9299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool 😎

  • @emagotis
    @emagotis 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    very high quality conversion! did you adapt filter settings from scene to scene or could you render the whole thing in one go?

    • @JimLeonard
      @JimLeonard  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Robby Rob The noise reduction process can adapt if the media doesn't change, but sometimes I've had to cut the video up into pieces and filter each piece individually.

  • @kaiserdooder
    @kaiserdooder ปีที่แล้ว

    The rumor is that mark hamill was wasted during the entire production of this game.

    • @JimLeonard
      @JimLeonard  ปีที่แล้ว

      I've never heard that. Hamill did do some psychedelics in his youth, but had stopped that even before the Star Wars trilogy was finished shooting.

    • @114Riggs
      @114Riggs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would be if my gal got her spine snapped by a giant ass claw through her gut.

  • @Psyclonus7
    @Psyclonus7 ปีที่แล้ว

    footage looks ok. kinda smeary. I'd like to see you re-do it

    • @JimLeonard
      @JimLeonard  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not a bad idea. I've improved my processes since then.