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  • @rottenavocado7647
    @rottenavocado7647 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +967

    The constant acquiring and then reluctantly selling Blinding Flash cycle is quite amusing

    • @cinex20
      @cinex20 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

      He'll get it back, after all.

    • @IDESTROYER236
      @IDESTROYER236 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

      One must imagine Haelian happy.

    • @jprunsfunny
      @jprunsfunny 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      It's the game trying (and mostly failing) to remind Haelian what the actual name of the boon is.

  • @jameshuntington8644
    @jameshuntington8644 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +334

    Hearing Haelian have so much FUN with dad fight is a testament to how much longevity this game has. Years later of constant play and you're still enjoying yourself!

  • @johnpetrila4823
    @johnpetrila4823 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +231

    This was the build I used to get my first EM4 clear ever; there's something deeply cathartic about being able to just rip through a run with Merciful End and not even worry about dying as long as you don't egregiously misplay. Love it when the stars align on a run like this.

  • @lil_sushiwill2916
    @lil_sushiwill2916 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    I actually got SUCH a similar run yesterday just on 16 heat with basically the same set up as you and I got a new PB!!! It was 12:36 I am really proud it.

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Congrats!

  • @Nat_the_Chicken
    @Nat_the_Chicken 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    Haelian at the beginning of the run: Yeah Underworld Customs is basically free heat
    Haelian for the entire rest of the run: Ugh I guess we gotta sell this thing I really like having

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      I guess you could say I got Exposed

    • @Nat_the_Chicken
      @Nat_the_Chicken 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Haelian b-dum KSHHHH

  • @qoopertrooper
    @qoopertrooper 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    To quote Grouse "My wife said it was her or the dodge build, God I miss her".

    • @black7594
      @black7594 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a 60% chance to dodge bullets but not a 60% chance to dodge alimony

  • @shionwild4319
    @shionwild4319 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Watching him get merciful end in tartarus while I've been struggling to get boons to cooperate for a fresh file run is so painfully aggrivating

  • @Naughtydoge
    @Naughtydoge 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Just cleared my first 32 heat run based off this run! Been trying all week with several other builds, but got it done first attempt with this. Thank you!

    • @Naughtydoge
      @Naughtydoge 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oh and first EM4 clear!!!

  • @buttermoth5861
    @buttermoth5861 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Got my first 32 heat clear with this. Funniest run I’ve ever played through

    • @buttermoth5861
      @buttermoth5861 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Didn’t even get merciful end by the hades fight lmao

  • @Dazdigo
    @Dazdigo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    The Lambent Plume is OP. It was surprised how OP I was in the later levels when it is nearly maxed out.

  • @kevinlloyd3047
    @kevinlloyd3047 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    For impending doom poms, it’s important to compare the pommed doom + ID to the current doom + pommed ID.

    • @lucasnetodafonseca6268
      @lucasnetodafonseca6268 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yep, that final choice of 5% or 5 flat was wrong, would have gotten more pomming the attack

    • @shadowpenguin3482
      @shadowpenguin3482 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For that calculation, there is an easy shortcut to decide, you want to increase the lower value of the product.
      +105% is the same as *2.05
      183 is the same as 100*1.83
      So the calculation we can see on the screen is 100*1.83*2.05
      So from this you want to increase the curse of agony. However there is also the bonus damage from the duo boon, which is 100*0.4 (right)
      So actually it’s 100*2.23*2.05, which means you want to level impending doom here, which means his choice was correct.

  • @SabrinatheMindfreak
    @SabrinatheMindfreak 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I love running the doom fists with lots of athena, especially with the lambent plume. It's so fun and feels so good.

  • @scrumptiousbisquitz1140
    @scrumptiousbisquitz1140 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Yayyyy, the throat clearance

    • @MrMikopi
      @MrMikopi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thinking about it makes me clear my throat too

  • @АсельЕсенбай-р8щ
    @АсельЕсенбай-р8щ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Damn I watched your hades runs two years ago. Now I am replaying the game and its nice to see you are still here. Your videos are fun as always!

  • @charlessmith8131
    @charlessmith8131 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This was how I got my first ever 32 heat em4 clear. I got all dodge boons you had, but I had a epic version of hermes dodge boon. I also had smoldering air so after one call I dodged everything.

  • @justarandomdood
    @justarandomdood 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Enjoying the offline videos as much as the streamed material, its fun listening to you talk like this
    Also LMFAO immediately getting the ME prerequisites without either Ares or Athena keepsakes, I'm very excited for the rest of this video 😂 I've only cleared 32 Heat 3 times and all 3 were with ME Fists of some kind (it's just so satisfying!), but usually I go with Gilgamesh and Ruthless Reflex because you still get 3 dashes minimum

  • @viviblue7277
    @viviblue7277 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I expected dodge chance to have diminishing returns otherwise 100% dodge chance just equals invincibility.

  • @whackareal
    @whackareal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Blinding flash is William Afton confirmed?? (It always comes back)

  • @TarnishedGoose
    @TarnishedGoose 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    hell yeah nice throat clear i feel contented and at home
    p.s. throat clear 8/10

  • @MrEdwardpullman
    @MrEdwardpullman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The 32 heat pact you chose is one I've run hundreds of times with Lambent plumb. ❤ the merciful end or crazy lightning runs are def my favs

  • @Malacite
    @Malacite 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow that's insane.
    Bought the game finally about a week ago maybe ? Can't put it down, absolutely love it finished the Epilogue today.
    Not a fan of some of the PoP modifiers and there's some annoying inconsistency when trying to get multiple boons from the same God (I feel like they could have added a PoP for that) but overall just such a great game.
    I am kinda sad there is no "Endless" mode option, so far as I know at least like Slay the Spire has where every time you beat the final boss it adds a stacking curse and sends you back to the first level with everything you had.
    No options for doing custom runs or daily challenges either, hopefully stuff being considered for Hades 2.

  • @Boosteradidas
    @Boosteradidas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It seems like deflecting with athena dash might count as a "near-miss". Not sure though.

  • @Professor_Wisteria_
    @Professor_Wisteria_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Plume on Fists is such a hilarious oxymoron but if you simply channel your inner Ali then it works MIRACLES

    • @RancorousSea
      @RancorousSea 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      New god of CTE incoming

  • @aradraugfea6755
    @aradraugfea6755 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hades' plan backfired. Killed Zag so many times, he became an immaterial shade!

  • @NianJKL
    @NianJKL 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I guess my favorite toy as a kid was a spawn toy. He was my favorite he had a cape and everything sadly I lost him at a beach somewhere and my parents made me leave before I could find it.

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      omg

    • @pumbaa667
      @pumbaa667 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Press F to pay respect

  • @Andytron5000
    @Andytron5000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Haven't seen Merciful End show up in a while. I remember when that was THE Hyper Delivery race meta. Did you ever do a video of ME on Zeus Shield? That's a fun build and you don't need the dash.

  • @palatonian9618
    @palatonian9618 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TH-camr luck, aka the willingness to do thousands of runs till you get one that will satisfy the dopamine starved viewers

  • @biiyen8458
    @biiyen8458 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Zag when he got Boons from Ultra Instinct Goku

  • @the_dennator7723
    @the_dennator7723 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    there's chambers and encounters,the well items deplete uopn an encounter (except hydralite) and the plume/butterfly upon clearing a chamber
    most chambers are also encountersbut the exception are:
    -shops are chambers but not encounters
    -safe rooms are chambers
    -styx rooms are encounters but not chambers
    -erebus I don't know

  • @lemmingrad
    @lemmingrad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Iirc, Mighty Max started out as a toyline, the boys version of Polly Pocket basically, then was made into a TV show to also sell more of those toys.

  • @sideswipejinyoxP
    @sideswipejinyoxP 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mighty Max was a tv show and set of toys as an opposite of Polly Pocket to reach the boy market back then. Lol

  • @magusto627
    @magusto627 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is simply frustrating as I am starting to play and struggle so much hahaha

  • @FTCoconutman
    @FTCoconutman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    highlighting the throat clear... XD

  • @twiklexic
    @twiklexic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    reappropriating a cartoon that is just dogma for american imperialism that is now irrelevant to try to make more money is a snake eating it’s own tail (sorry for politics posting)

    • @Elkay26
      @Elkay26 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Trying wayy to hard to sound intelligent

  • @jonathansiegel435
    @jonathansiegel435 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't expect my Blinding Flash drinking game to be such a big mistake...

  • @dreithen8693
    @dreithen8693 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do the same thing for this run with ruthless reflex, i get lucky a lot of times with this build and get an epic or rare greatest reflex and it fixes the problem of needing extra dashes and makes it easier to activate ruthless reflex

  • @jpegfan51
    @jpegfan51 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    wait does this make you actually invincible?

    • @CSmyth-
      @CSmyth- 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      No, because breaking past 100% is conditional on you using the dash with perfect timing and on having enough gauge to Call. And if you always have the perfect reaction time, then... In theory... The dodge% doesn't actually matter because you could just avoid everything normally...

    • @jadeliu1462
      @jadeliu1462 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@CSmyth-It's a lot easier to get near misses than you're thinking. Since you already have over 50% dodge naturally, you can dodge something then dash, essentially making the timing free. Then you can continue the cycle and get more near misses as you mash dash around attacks without actually fearing getting hit for timing it wrong, which you can see makes him nearly invincible against hades. Also, as soon as you get enough for one call, that's 10 seconds of invincibility which you can easily use to gain more invincibility.

    • @CSmyth-
      @CSmyth- 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jadeliu1462 I mean, you said it yourself. "...makes him nearly invincible against Hades"
      That's exactly what I'm saying, sure, you could get a THEORETICAL 100% uptime on the 100%+ dodge, but it's just not going to happen in practice.

    • @jadeliu1462
      @jadeliu1462 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CSmyth- Well sure, technically you won't be fully invincible but I'm just saying you can be invincible for long periods of time just by mashing dash and call. Saying the dodge% doesn't matter when it can give you large periods of invincibility for free is what I disagreed with, although being technical I do agree that 100% invincibility isn't achieved with this build.

    • @Arkayjiya
      @Arkayjiya 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@CSmyth- You can reach 100% perma-dodge even if it's conditional. 15% from fist, 25% from heroic Hermes if you get it before Eurydice, 30*1.2 = 36% dodge and you're already over 70% Hell even with a purple hermes you're over 70%. Then you get even the common 30% for 10 second after activating and the boon that allows you to have your bar partially filled at the start + a 5 bar boon and you can have perma-100% dodge. Sure it's contingent on you hitting the enemy so you can get your god gauge charge fast enough but since that condition is virtually impossible to fail, it's permanent invulnerability.
      So it can happen in practice, I actually had it in one run, perma invuln.

  • @harvey_souls
    @harvey_souls 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ''thats it'' the anger is felt brother lol

  • @GordonGordon
    @GordonGordon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are you able to do this with a dio build? I guess you want ares and aphro duo boons also...

  • @Entremanures
    @Entremanures 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i'm 31 and kids had heelys in grade school

  • @bruhmoment341
    @bruhmoment341 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Huh, I never had issues with my single dash. Granted I still get hit… but if you can survive the enemies, the bosses are much more forgiving to a single dash, and I can’t say that I don’t take advantage of getting close to enemies for the 50% boost to damage, still… I’ll have to give two dashes another shot

  • @Ben_E2
    @Ben_E2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    payday 2 dodge build: finally, a worthy opponent

  • @wiriwiseco6328
    @wiriwiseco6328 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So he just got 100 dmg in super dad fight while head diving? Makes sense (what a cool game)

  • @normal6483
    @normal6483 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    17:50 According to Wikipedia, Heelys were patented in 1999. Which makes sense to me; I'm 30 years old and I remember Heelys being out when I was in elementary school. I got a pair and they sucked; the wheels were too small to balance on, so your shoe would always scrap against the ground and destroy your momentum. They fell out of favor for a while, and then recently it seems like they've made a comeback.

  • @lukeliu113
    @lukeliu113 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Casually get the best combo at the first floor lol

  • @thedocblock6421
    @thedocblock6421 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dire Misfortune is not a great boon, but I think it has a very important place
    And that place is as a fallback boon to pick up in case merciful end decides to never show up
    Source: My last Gilgamesh Run

  • @venusdevotea9378
    @venusdevotea9378 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    loving these videos, just got into hades and I'm LOVING IT! i just cleared the main story (getting persephone back into hades) and honestly i turned on god mode after that bc i want to get to the rest of the story without the increased difficulty of all the higher heat runs. thanks for all these guides and cool builds that keep the game fun!

  • @nutmeg3647
    @nutmeg3647 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Zagreus has mastered Ultra Instinct

  • @witherslayer8673
    @witherslayer8673 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the sans run... lol

  • @theHUMANAUT1
    @theHUMANAUT1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is my fave build

  • @appawlicki
    @appawlicki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a reason he always sells one of his boons between floors? Am I missing something? Does it do something better for you?

    • @stellafraag3606
      @stellafraag3606 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pact of punishment. He needs to purge a boon to get to the next area :/

  • @TheManDude
    @TheManDude 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zagreus after oiling up(it’s historically accurate):

  • @xryptus9624
    @xryptus9624 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    crazy how this was 32 heat and Hades couldn't even hit you

  • @codystandish121
    @codystandish121 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My gf said it was me or the dodge build. God I miss her

  • @plaguetree5067
    @plaguetree5067 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, I know what I'm trying this weekend!!

  • @darthskyy7
    @darthskyy7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry if this is a noob question but are the Theseus and Asterius outfits a mod?

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nope a pact of punishment called Extreme Measures.

    • @darthskyy7
      @darthskyy7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Haelian thank you for the response:)

  • @selocan469
    @selocan469 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, dodge is additive?

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes

  • @rafaelgermano1497
    @rafaelgermano1497 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello haelian

  • @KaiKrimson56
    @KaiKrimson56 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you get Megaera as an assist?

    • @thegreatgario3478
      @thegreatgario3478 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      befriend her to the point where you give her ambrosia
      to use her during the hades fight you need to go to the contractor to get special permission, once you get far enough in the game; if you can't give that permission yet just keep playing the game

  • @jgojiz
    @jgojiz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Broken

  • @Rocky-yw1zo
    @Rocky-yw1zo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it possible to max heat with this

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Nah you won't earn enough dodge, room clears take too long.

  • @willowthorn35
    @willowthorn35 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bazinga!

  • @a_game_maker
    @a_game_maker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The dodge rate is not additive. It is multiplicative. If you have the Hermes Dodge boon (10%) on top of Zag fists (15%), the final dodge rate is 1-( (1-0.1) * (1-0.15)) = 1 - ( 0.9 * 0.85 ) = 1 - 0.765 = 23.5% dodge rate. You can compute this using probability of getting hit. You can never have a dodge rate greater than 100% with more dodge boon.
    In your current build with 3 core dodge boons and one temporary dodge boon (Second Wind), the final dodge rate is 48% in general and for 10 seconds after using the call, the dodge rate is 67%. Essentially, it's just 1 out of 2 or 2 out of 3.

    • @a_game_maker
      @a_game_maker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BTW, big fan of your content Hael!

    • @a_game_maker
      @a_game_maker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Could you play a mod where you begin with your desired build and you lose boons after each chamber; let's call this mod - "Angry Olympus"

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Dodge rate is additive, the modding/speedrunning community confirmed this a long time ago. You can check the LUA files to confirm if you want. It is very possible to get over 100% dodge.