@@Triggamike metallic pads have more bite and last longer and have higher heat tolerance, down side is they can get noisy when wet and wear rotor faster
@@Triggamike resin pads will burn up quick with the weight and speeds of this bike. Metal last longer. There’s pros and cons to each but for this application, metal is better 🤙🏽
Hey Josh, super stoked on the content you have been producing! It’s very informative and greatly appreciated. I picked up a pair of pads and your replies answered my question on replacing immediately as I still waiting on mine to be delivered. Thanks man.
I just got back from a ride. They just keep getting better! Very impressed. My stoppies are better than ever now! Appreciate the feedback and glad they’re helping! 🤝
A more objective comparison would also test heat loading, doing 10 stops back to back and see how the distance changes with heat. that is where the real advantage of the shimano pads comes into play.
@@freerfixedit I got both wheels’ sets in, but after a couple days, the front set has started to squeak, any idea why? They haven’t gotten wet yet. Also when I roll the bike back-and-forth really slowly I can sort of hear them rubbing. do I adjust the calipers in anyway, or maybe when you tighten the main bolt back in? Is there a certain technique for it?
@@ch40440 yeah, the squeaky pads may be from glazing. I noticed if it happened to me, if I rode and drug the brake slightly for about 50 feet or so about 2/3 times it would stop. Or you can remove pads and rub em on some sand paper. The rubbing may be from not having your brake caliper centered. I actually have a video on this about stopping squeak, but long story short, you want to hold you brake lever down while you tighten the 2 5mm caliper bolts. It should center your rotor better between the pads
Just subbed, found you through the Blood Sweat & Gears boys starting to go through your content and you're doing a bang up job mate keep it up. Just got a MX4R from the new batch there today to go with my MX3. This new batch comes with new color kinda an slightly off orange (it grows on you) black grips and a new bigger rear mudguard and i can't fault it, feels like a different bike altogether from the MX3.
@@Dommy_Doo that’s awesome! You’re going to love it! Dropping a new video tomorrow that’s going to be my thoughts/review after a month of riding, and everything I’ve done to the bike since I got it!
having issues since day one (had a week) with brakes rubbing despite centering, bleeding, etc. noticed you have completely diff calipers than mine. mine are all black and dont have the big bolts on the side. fighting with talaria now to make it right. not sure why theyre shipping different calipers to people. mine was from this newest batch last week. noticed one of your followers just got the new batch with orange decals and has the red calipers as well. crazy there is no consistency. great vid btw! love the content
Literally the same here, feel like these are completely different bikes i also have the all black calipers as well as my headlight is the square connector aswell its crazy.
Yeah... They are shipping with different brakes, grips, rear fenders, graphics, and headlight connectors... these items dont affect performance, so they didn't inform anyone they were doing this... The calipers you have are still 4 piston calipers, so I dont think theyre worse quality than mine... I think Talaria is having a hard time keeping up with demand, and they had to source parts from other suppliers to keep up... just my guess!
love the vids bro, just a question for you. i run the ho3a pads w resin, i haven’t tried the ho3c but how different do they feel if you have tried both?
I haven’t tried the resin pads. They probably bite a little more, but will wear out much faster than the metal ones, and thank you bro! Appreciate that 🤝
Thanks for the quick response. I got the pads in but I notice that the left pad feels a bit loose compared to the right. I just did a quick test and it seems to be braking a lot better but the left pad definitely has some play.. is that normal?
@@DevinFife23 as long as you screwed the pin back in through the pads, and have the safety clip, the pads can’t go anywhere so I would say yeah. Mine wiggle around too
@@freerfixedit being honest I enjoyed learning how much better I can Stop 🛑🛑🛑 by getting those break pads. I am recovering from landing on my knee and breaking a bone in it. So, I am hanging out with my neighbor You here on the TH-cam.... Showing support for your East Coast content.
@@Anonymous_Sting_Rider sorry to hear that! Heal up quick! These brakes keep getting better and better the more they bed in. Highly recommend as a budget brake option! I have no desire to upgrade anymore!
Would you recommend these over the kool stop pads luna cycle just added for the talaria? The description they give on the site is they now have an ebike specific compound for better stopping power. Half the cost of the shimanos
I haven’t tried the kool stop pads so I can’t say. Looks like they don’t have the cooling fins like the shimanos, so will probably fade more when they heat up. But for half the price, and if there compound stops as good as they claim, might be worth a shot. But I can speak for the shimanos and say they are great. Now that they’re worn in I can lock up the back brake with 1 finger no problem
Leme guess… good ole Bill on fb 😂 no, I didn’t. I just disconnected and removed all my sensors, and taped up the open connectors. People say to dielectric grease all your connections, which in my opinion is not necessary unless your ride in extremely wet conditions. Even then, these connectors are pretty wrapped up. Won’t hurt and will prevent water from doing any shorting, but not necessary
@@freerfixedit YES it was him !! I was so confused when he posted that. So I don’t have too worry about doing that ? And is there anything else I have to do once I get the bike set up ?
Idk, it comes and goes for me… just got back from a ride and front was squeaking. It’ll be silent tomorrow. I don’t get it, but cleaning the rotor with some brake parts cleaner and doing a proper bedding procedure should help
@@freerfixedit i got these pads on the front and back now. riding my ktm sxf on the track i never get brake squeaking, so maybe the secret ingredient is dirt on the pads😅
@@freerfixedit To be honest, I can't really feel the difference. I guess the fronts did seem to improve somewhat and they don't squeak anymore, but now the backs squeak like the original ones. Turns out the original weren't even worn down as much as I thought. And I'm up in the hills going up and down steep country roads and trails on my property. I cleaned everything off with rubbing alcohol just like the Lunacycle youtube video. Not sure what to make of all that
@@julieloudon7513 if they’re squeaking it’s probably because they glazed over. You can take them out and rub them in circles on some sand paper to get some fresh pad material back and it should stop
@@freerfixedit I'll try that this weekend. But the back squeaked loudly right out the box and first run down the road. I rode it again today and I feel the front worked probably better than the OEM ones. I'll jump back on here and post an update. LOL. I'm kicking myself for not doing a stopping distance test like you did. Buuuut I just might put the oldies back in and do a proper test. Thanks for responding
@@julieloudon7513 anytime! let me know how it goes, also, with new pads youre supposed to bed them in. what i did was went about 10 mph and just slightly drug the brake to wear them in. be careful if you do this with the front brakes tho, cause any slight turn and the front end can wash out from under you
Yeah… just to look less like a dirtbike on the road. I’d put them on for dirt. I’ve ridden through water and gotten roosted in the face multiple times 😂
Stock. The first batch of mx4s came stock with surron style calipers, they now come with similar 4 piston talaria brand calipers. All the same thing and pads fit both
I just installed these today and noticed even after adjusting calipers there’s alot of noise. I also noticed theres almost zero space between the pads and the rotors. Is that normal?
I guess the pistons on the caliper were protruding out too much and I had to push them back in to fit the new pads on. It was a mission, but we figured it out.@@freerfixedit
"Yeah, also got a question, bro. My Sting R is completely stock. What first upgrades would you recommend? And how do I improve my brakes 'cause they're shit, barely stopping the bike? My bike's 2 weeks old."
@@Cattyman6 shimano pads are the cheapest way to improve the brakes without spending a ton of money. I’ve also read that clones on Amazon for a fraction of the price are just as good. Also, the bikes ship with oil on the rotors to prevent rust. It’s a good idea to clean rotors with isopropyl alcohol to get rid of the oils. As well as centering the calipers. Check out my talaria playlist to see a video on how to do that. Hope this helps!
@@Smilldon that’s weird. You got the metal version right? Not the resin? Everyone else has said good things. I wonder what’s going on with them. Maybe clean rotors with brake parts cleaner?
@@mcr.onwheels so did mine…throw em in the trash 😂 these kept getting better and better after this video because they weren’t bedded in yet. I’m very happy with them and feel no desire to upgrade the brakes anymore
@@freerfixedit yeah I just went in my garage and looked at it it will have to be some type of hybrid system there's no way the KTM rotors will fit on the rim 😂 The hub is way bigger on the dirt bike
So are hope v4s 🤷🏻♂️ these just make the brakes feel a ton better. I’m happy with them now to where I don’t feel the need to shell out hundreds for magura or hopes
Shimano Brake Pads: amzn.to/41tBfQk
LOL. I ordered the same pads a week and a half ago and got it beginning of this week.
Why Metal instead of Resin? Much love 🤙🏼
@@Triggamike metallic pads have more bite and last longer and have higher heat tolerance, down side is they can get noisy when wet and wear rotor faster
@@Triggamike resin pads will burn up quick with the weight and speeds of this bike. Metal last longer. There’s pros and cons to each but for this application, metal is better 🤙🏽
Hey Josh, super stoked on the content you have been producing! It’s very informative and greatly appreciated. I picked up a pair of pads and your replies answered my question on replacing immediately as I still waiting on mine to be delivered. Thanks man.
I just got back from a ride. They just keep getting better! Very impressed. My stoppies are better than ever now! Appreciate the feedback and glad they’re helping! 🤝
A more objective comparison would also test heat loading, doing 10 stops back to back and see how the distance changes with heat. that is where the real advantage of the shimano pads comes into play.
Following only because this was just the perfect video i was looking for with great explanation and even parts linked
Glad it helped! Appreciate you! 🤙🏽
Thanks bro! Been waiting to install mine, and I’m about to today!
Awesome! Bed them in for a bit at first and they feel pretty great compared to the stock ones! 🤙🏽
@@freerfixedit I got both wheels’ sets in, but after a couple days, the front set has started to squeak, any idea why? They haven’t gotten wet yet. Also when I roll the bike back-and-forth really slowly I can sort of hear them rubbing. do I adjust the calipers in anyway, or maybe when you tighten the main bolt back in? Is there a certain technique for it?
@@ch40440 yeah, the squeaky pads may be from glazing. I noticed if it happened to me, if I rode and drug the brake slightly for about 50 feet or so about 2/3 times it would stop. Or you can remove pads and rub em on some sand paper. The rubbing may be from not having your brake caliper centered. I actually have a video on this about stopping squeak, but long story short, you want to hold you brake lever down while you tighten the 2 5mm caliper bolts. It should center your rotor better between the pads
Thank you from Australia I have the pads ordered your video will help when I change my pads.
Love to hear it mate! Cheers!
Exactly the video i was looking for. And the part links are in the description, definitely following now. Thank you
Love to hear it. Thanks for the feedback and support!
Just subbed, found you through the Blood Sweat & Gears boys starting to go through your content and you're doing a bang up job mate keep it up. Just got a MX4R from the new batch there today to go with my MX3. This new batch comes with new color kinda an slightly off orange (it grows on you) black grips and a new bigger rear mudguard and i can't fault it, feels like a different bike altogether from the MX3.
Hey that’s awesome man, and thank you! That sounds a bit different. I wanna see a pic!
@@freerfixedit just uploaded a short video on my channel, it's the only thing there lol.
Quick, informative DIY and some testing 👍nice video
Appreciate that! 🤝
I love shimano for my fishing gear, now ill love them for every time I stop on my mx4 😂
😂🎣
Try gekors ceramic pads, they are half the price and way more gentle on the rotor while still providing lots of stopping power and minimum noises 😉
Just the video I needed! Thank you!!👍
Thanks for watching! Appreciate it! 🤝
Love your videos man, super informative and easy to watch. Earned a sub
Thank you so much man! I’m trying my best! Appreciate you!
@Freer Fixed iT i just ordered a Sting R, should be here early June so im binge watching all your videos now lol. Looking forward to your next vids
@@Dommy_Doo that’s awesome! You’re going to love it! Dropping a new video tomorrow that’s going to be my thoughts/review after a month of riding, and everything I’ve done to the bike since I got it!
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Good review! Gonna throw these on my XXX!
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback, hope you like em 🤙🏽
having issues since day one (had a week) with brakes rubbing despite centering, bleeding, etc. noticed you have completely diff calipers than mine. mine are all black and dont have the big bolts on the side. fighting with talaria now to make it right. not sure why theyre shipping different calipers to people. mine was from this newest batch last week. noticed one of your followers just got the new batch with orange decals and has the red calipers as well. crazy there is no consistency. great vid btw! love the content
Literally the same here, feel like these are completely different bikes i also have the all black calipers as well as my headlight is the square connector aswell its crazy.
Yeah... They are shipping with different brakes, grips, rear fenders, graphics, and headlight connectors... these items dont affect performance, so they didn't inform anyone they were doing this... The calipers you have are still 4 piston calipers, so I dont think theyre worse quality than mine... I think Talaria is having a hard time keeping up with demand, and they had to source parts from other suppliers to keep up... just my guess!
Standard China procedure. Whatever gets them out the door and on the ship.
I’ve been having the same problem with the stock black brakes. Did anything work? @shaking shark?
love the vids bro, just a question for you. i run the ho3a pads w resin, i haven’t tried the ho3c but how different do they feel if you have tried both?
I haven’t tried the resin pads. They probably bite a little more, but will wear out much faster than the metal ones, and thank you bro! Appreciate that 🤝
I’m headed home to do this right now. Thank you.
🤙🏽🤙🏽
Hey man I’m having a hard time getting these pads to fit back into my caliper… they’re the BP-H03C-MF model right?
I don’t remember having a BP in my part number. H03C-mf, they’re the pads linked in the description
Thanks for the quick response. I got the pads in but I notice that the left pad feels a bit loose compared to the right. I just did a quick test and it seems to be braking a lot better but the left pad definitely has some play.. is that normal?
@@DevinFife23 yeah they’re just kind of loosely held in there by the spring clip and pin bolt. You did install the spring between the pads right?
@@freerfixedit I did install the spring clip but felt a lil looser than I thought it would… probably fine?
@@DevinFife23 as long as you screwed the pin back in through the pads, and have the safety clip, the pads can’t go anywhere so I would say yeah. Mine wiggle around too
Great valuable information 👍 thanks keep up the great content and videos 👍
Appreciate the feedback more than you know! Thank you!
@@freerfixedit being honest I enjoyed learning how much better I can Stop 🛑🛑🛑 by getting those break pads. I am recovering from landing on my knee and breaking a bone in it. So, I am hanging out with my neighbor You here on the TH-cam.... Showing support for your East Coast content.
@@Anonymous_Sting_Rider sorry to hear that! Heal up quick! These brakes keep getting better and better the more they bed in. Highly recommend as a budget brake option! I have no desire to upgrade anymore!
Would you recommend these over the kool stop pads luna cycle just added for the talaria? The description they give on the site is they now have an ebike specific compound for better stopping power. Half the cost of the shimanos
I haven’t tried the kool stop pads so I can’t say. Looks like they don’t have the cooling fins like the shimanos, so will probably fade more when they heat up. But for half the price, and if there compound stops as good as they claim, might be worth a shot. But I can speak for the shimanos and say they are great. Now that they’re worn in I can lock up the back brake with 1 finger no problem
I have the new cool stop pads in my hand right now going to try them out today
Going to install my h03c pads today
They don’t fit for me bro lol
You are the man, ur videos are dope 😊
🥹 thanks bro! Really appreciate that!
Love you videos. Keep it up!
Thank you! I really appreciate the feedback! It’s just the beginning!
did you need to put some type of oil on all the plugs in front of your handlebars ? idk what some people are talking about
Leme guess… good ole Bill on fb 😂 no, I didn’t. I just disconnected and removed all my sensors, and taped up the open connectors. People say to dielectric grease all your connections, which in my opinion is not necessary unless your ride in extremely wet conditions. Even then, these connectors are pretty wrapped up. Won’t hurt and will prevent water from doing any shorting, but not necessary
@@freerfixedit YES it was him !! I was so confused when he posted that. So I don’t have too worry about doing that ? And is there anything else I have to do once I get the bike set up ?
@@jordanberardi15 just ride it and try not to smile too hard 😁
What's the phone mount on the battery cover?
Stay tuned for fridays video!
how do you stop these sintered metal pads from squeaking louder than a cars horn? cleaning them doesnt really make it go away
Idk, it comes and goes for me… just got back from a ride and front was squeaking. It’ll be silent tomorrow. I don’t get it, but cleaning the rotor with some brake parts cleaner and doing a proper bedding procedure should help
@@freerfixedit i got these pads on the front and back now. riding my ktm sxf on the track i never get brake squeaking, so maybe the secret ingredient is dirt on the pads😅
Been a few months, are you still happy with the upgrade?
Yeah. Little squeaky, but I think it’s cause I need to clean my rotors. But best cheap brake upgrade you can do imo
Thanks. You bought 2 of the amazon linked product right, 1 for front and 1 for back?@@freerfixedit
I just got my Kool Stop pads from Lunacycle for $18, hope they're good. Gonna install them may today but it's too hot out in my garage
let me know how you like them, my shimanos are about down to the metal
@@freerfixedit To be honest, I can't really feel the difference. I guess the fronts did seem to improve somewhat and they don't squeak anymore, but now the backs squeak like the original ones. Turns out the original weren't even worn down as much as I thought. And I'm up in the hills going up and down steep country roads and trails on my property. I cleaned everything off with rubbing alcohol just like the Lunacycle youtube video. Not sure what to make of all that
@@julieloudon7513 if they’re squeaking it’s probably because they glazed over. You can take them out and rub them in circles on some sand paper to get some fresh pad material back and it should stop
@@freerfixedit I'll try that this weekend. But the back squeaked loudly right out the box and first run down the road. I rode it again today and I feel the front worked probably better than the OEM ones. I'll jump back on here and post an update. LOL. I'm kicking myself for not doing a stopping distance test like you did. Buuuut I just might put the oldies back in and do a proper test. Thanks for responding
@@julieloudon7513 anytime! let me know how it goes, also, with new pads youre supposed to bed them in. what i did was went about 10 mph and just slightly drug the brake to wear them in. be careful if you do this with the front brakes tho, cause any slight turn and the front end can wash out from under you
Why did you take your fenders off? just to fly under the radar?
Yeah… just to look less like a dirtbike on the road. I’d put them on for dirt. I’ve ridden through water and gotten roosted in the face multiple times 😂
do you use an air shim for battery rattle?
@@keed333 yep
Intro song is super catchy 🤙
Bought same but holes r off by 1 mm screw does not go in straight did u widen clip hole ?
No I didn’t. They just fit right in. First I’ve heard of this, you sure everything’s right?
Yeah I hold new ho3c pads in old clip and holes r off
@@craigchenery604 why are you using the old clip? The pads come with a new one
@@freerfixedit cause I'm dumb lol thanks dude
@@craigchenery604 😂 no problem bro!
What kind of calipers are you using?
Stock. The first batch of mx4s came stock with surron style calipers, they now come with similar 4 piston talaria brand calipers. All the same thing and pads fit both
What battery cover is that?
Tomorrows video will be a 1 month review and everything I’ve done to the bike so far. Stay tuned 😎
I just installed these today and noticed even after adjusting calipers there’s alot of noise. I also noticed theres almost zero space between the pads and the rotors. Is that normal?
I’m having this same issue, have you figured out any solution to this?
my front brake on my mx4 is making noise when i brake:( i recentered my caliper & still making the noise💔hellppppp
Try cleaning the brake rotor with brake parts cleaner
Also, the stock pads are garbage
Def don't use any pittsburg harbor freight allen keys. You'll strip your bolts out quick.
My mx4 didnt have those little safety clips
The spring clip that goes between the pads or the circular clip for the caliper pin bolt?
Will Shimano h03A fit ?
@@darrenhearty9191 they will, but they are a resin pad and will wear out faster
I like your heat comment, a TORCH, applied correctly, is way better than a electric heat gun or hair dryer.
For sure! I used to work at a wrap shop and torch was the way to go for heat!
I wish you showed the front brake install cause these MOFOs will not go on
its the same as the rear... what are you having issues with?
I guess the pistons on the caliper were protruding out too much and I had to push them back in to fit the new pads on. It was a mission, but we figured it out.@@freerfixedit
@@tylerhemmings nice, glad to hear it! 🤙🏽
Same pads for front and rear?
Yep. Metal. Not the resin version
@@freerfixedit metal is trash so squeaky
@@MPowerSubie12 resin wears out in 5 min. Pick your poison 🤷🏻♂️
Mines don’t even fit bought ho3c and they’re too big to fit between the rotor
@@darrenhearty9191 you might have to compress the pistons of your caliper to get them to fit, but I promise they do
Do another video on all the mods you’ve done ❤🔥🔥🎯
Might have to do somethin like that here soon. My charger died so I’m stuck in the garage until the new one comes in 😅
"Yeah, also got a question, bro. My Sting R is completely stock. What first upgrades would you recommend? And how do I improve my brakes 'cause they're shit, barely stopping the bike? My bike's 2 weeks old."
@@Cattyman6 shimano pads are the cheapest way to improve the brakes without spending a ton of money. I’ve also read that clones on Amazon for a fraction of the price are just as good. Also, the bikes ship with oil on the rotors to prevent rust. It’s a good idea to clean rotors with isopropyl alcohol to get rid of the oils. As well as centering the calipers. Check out my talaria playlist to see a video on how to do that. Hope this helps!
@@freerfixeditcheers what first upgrades would you recommend to 👍🏽
@@Cattyman6 foot pegs, 3 inch riser bars. Direct mount stem. Most of it is in the Amazon upgrade video in the talaria playlist 🤙🏽
Put these on my talaria and they scream like crazy and my rear brake is just mush and wont bite… i must be doing something wrong
They take a little time to wear in before the bite gets better. You just swapped pads right? Didn’t mess with cables or anything? No oil leaked out?
Also need to center calipers when installing new pads. Check this out th-cam.com/video/lvjTWxrvwuo/w-d-xo.html
@@freerfixedit yeah all I did was change pads and they scream like crazy and dont bite. Already put 60 miles on them and still nothing
@@Smilldon that’s weird. You got the metal version right? Not the resin? Everyone else has said good things. I wonder what’s going on with them. Maybe clean rotors with brake parts cleaner?
@@freerfixedit got the ho3c
Just bled the brakes and it fixed nothing
If i tried to do this test in the UK by the time i went back to the spot it would have rained and the chalk would be gone 😂
😂 had to wait a day to make this video cause of rain
I'll probably get these pads but my stock still have a decent amount of life
@@freerfixedit ahah! 🤣
@@mcr.onwheels so did mine…throw em in the trash 😂 these kept getting better and better after this video because they weren’t bedded in yet. I’m very happy with them and feel no desire to upgrade the brakes anymore
@Freer Fixed iT That's sweet! Mine also make that sound that your stock ones did but on the back
I'm just going to try to hijack these brembo brakes off this old KTM 200 I have 😂.
Let me know if it works out!
@@freerfixedit yeah I just went in my garage and looked at it it will have to be some type of hybrid system there's no way the KTM rotors will fit on the rim 😂 The hub is way bigger on the dirt bike
The bike comes with the Allen keys haha
Probably better once broken in.
Much better now!
shimano pads are still mountain bike breaks
So are hope v4s 🤷🏻♂️ these just make the brakes feel a ton better. I’m happy with them now to where I don’t feel the need to shell out hundreds for magura or hopes
Such a cliche to be wearing a helmet when not riding! Another guy worshiping Surronster
Nah just a guy with a mic in his helmet who wants quality audio in the clips. Hope you find better ways to spend your time in life 🤙🏽