Copy Control Rigs between characters in Unreal Engine 5 (&4)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2022
- Save time and money (as time = money) by copying Control Rigs between characters. I'll show you a few different things to consider based on the character skeletons, but this can save time over starting every character from scratch.
HOWEVER - knowing how to build from scratch will help as well, so watch this video too (Control Rig DIY): • Unreal Engine 5 (&4): ...
BONUS INFO!!! David Williams at Unreal Film Academy (who's course you should look into if you are learning Unreal - seriously, only $89) shows a trick for how to use the Backward solve to set the Forward solve control positions (make sure your names all match up first). Save even MORE time with this trick!! Thanks David!! (Watch my full video, to understand the issue, then jump to his here to see the trick in action: th-cam.com/video/_oCS4wYGsV0/w-d-xo.html)
Bro. Im going to cry. This video literally solved all the problems that set me back days and weeks. I love you so much Bro i cannot thank you enough you are a godsend
That’s so cool, glad it helped!! I’m planning to get some more tutorials up here soon, hopefully just as helpful 😀
Really nice tutorial, thanks .easy to follow and well explained .keep it up Great channel , if it was not one of the greatest.
What an awesome tut. Thats what I long for. Thank you so much
Glad it was helpful!
i found a like how you can do this with every pose dont need to match the bones ... just with 2 clicks select mesh and update it and it was ready im so happy because your tutorial didnt worked but good god i found your tutorial thats how i found this easy 2 step thing
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This is very helpful, thank you!
You're very welcome!
Wow thank you, I had no idea bout that trick to reload a skeleton hierarchy with a new skeleton. I've been messing with unreal for years and learned something new.
Ha it never ends!
I got here from a google search for this exact issue. For anyone looking for just this part, it starts around the 9:00 mark.
priceless time saver
This Was a REALLY Helpful video, I Learned a New Trick! :)
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Glad it helped!
Fantastic! Thank you!1
Hi JC, thanks for the tutorial but when I try to use the shortcut CTRL+PERIOD it doesn't do anything and doesn't seem to go into the mode to move the control. Do you know if that has changed and if so what is the new keyboard shortcut? thanks
Thank you very much!!!
You're welcome!
Hi, thank you for an amazing tutorial! I'm kind of new to UE, so I would appreciate a little help. When I change the mesh as you do at 8:30 of this video, my character is laying on the ground, 90 degrees rotated. Do you know how can I fix this issue? Thank you!
Awesome J.C!!
Thanks!
This is AMAZING!!!!!! How did I find this just noww. Thank you! - Is there a way to do this for face rig to use metahuman sliders??
If you need a different pose this is so much faster than trying to export to Blender and then make changes and the re import back into UE and I have had nothing but issues trying this process so changing poses is amazing using the RIG.
That’s great to hear!!
I love the fact that the Metahuman is setup so that you can just change the preview mesh to Metahuman, then save it and boom, you can now access control rig via your Metahuman, and then make ultra quick adjustments on the fly. Now we just need them to make more clothes options and better body options, and it'll be incredible. But something tells me when FAB replaces the Unreal Marketplace, that they are going to flood that thing with bodies and clothes lol
There's gonna be content everywhere! :)
Im trying to do this with the CR_Mannequin rig with the tutorial you linked in the pinned comment but im unable to replug in the backwards solve. Do you know whats causing this?
In sequencer when i move the arms of my characters, it goes through their body. Is there any way i can turn this off? I also want meshes to interact with each other with grappling moves, but the arms goes through as if the other characters is not there!
Any solution?
How do i transfer the skeleton from my character rigged on blender to unreal skeleton mannequin? or do i have to import my mesh and set as mannequin skeleton and do this process you teach?
THank you
I tried to transplant the rig and the mesh is fd up need help like the head disappeared only in previewer but yeah still isn't working
I love you, and I don't say that to just any youtube channel.
thanks!
I have a small problem: The model what I want to use isn't made for UE5 and when I add it to the mesh it comes off rotated and too big, I'm bit new on UE5 so I cannot find a solution to fit it with the rig :,)
Nice!
Thanks!
Awesome breakdown! Theres a little trick you can do to instantly fix the controls. Basically you run the forwards solver through the backwards setup which places all the controls on the relevant bones, then you set those as defaults and switch it back. Here's the process if you are interested: th-cam.com/video/_oCS4wYGsV0/w-d-xo.html
Loving these Control rig videos!
Genius! Thanks David, I'm pinning a comment on that as it's super important info - and totally makes sense as that's what the backward solve does, moves the controls to the joint's positions. Clever trick, nice and smooth, saves even more time!! Cheers!!
Thank you sooooooooooooooo much!!!! spent an entire day trying to get a shorter character to sync and not have a stretched body! and this just fixed it in seconds.
@@capodisinverse1798 Yup David at UE Film Academy is all-star for sure - I highly recommend his course if you have the money to invest - money well spent!
I can't get this to work in UE5. There's no "Set Initial transform from Current". I've tried the options UE5 has but upon recompiling it always resets the controls.
@@ZiggyGameDev have you find a way to fix this ? I'm having the same problem.
Of course now, you can use Procedural Rigging to share rigs of various sizes and different skeletons!
is there anywhere to download a default ue4 control rig that you can copy into your project and then change the skeleton?
Nevermind, found the one on UE Market for free and downloaded and followed your video and works, save a lot of time, thank you.
Hi, I'm having an issue when I bake animation to control rig. Both ball controls are twisted to a strange angle. How do I fix that? I've been trying the method you taught us using transform and shape transform under Rig graph to fix the issue but it went even worse. Would you educate me how to deal with issues like this? Thank you😀
Hmmmm not sure what the issue could be? I’m kinda unavailable these days but there is a discord channel for control rig that you might try to post on and see if someone can help.
Thanks! Which control rig are you using on the UE4 Mannequin? The Epic one from 4.26?
Good and timely question! For this video yes the 4.26 CR -- BUT the 5.0.2 hot fix that just came out includes the new v5 mannequin control rig. If I get a chance soon, I think I'll do a breakdown of how that CR is put together and works...
@@3dJC That would be awesome, i tried to follow the tutorial and didnt work. I just realized that the new one is not the same control rig for the older mannequin. Im waiting to se the video, I love your channel btw :D.
Hi, it's posible to put the control rig from UE5 in the maniquín UE4 but working in UE5? I have my project with UE5 but I'm using the ue4 mannequin and I would like to use the control rig, you recommend to me download the control rig of ue4.26? Or I can to do that with the UE5. Thank you!!
I think the "easier" route is to grab the 4.26 control rig demo project, and open it in 5 so you get the "old" mannequin control rig and use it in 5 just fine. If you really wanted the new 5.0.2+ mannequin Control Rig, and copy it onto the old mannequin, it seems "possible" but not simple - I played with it a bit using the stuff in my video here - but there is quite a bit of differences between skeletons, and the newer more complex CR has names for things that the old mannequin doesn't have (like those 2 upper arm twist joints), so not sure if that can even be worked around... So if v4 CR would work for you, I'd try that first. Lemme know if you ever give the v5 CR a go and it works!
@@3dJC I followed your process for the last skeleton using a UE5 control rig and a UE4 skeleton. Seemed to work fine, since the proportions are the same, it just ignored the missing bones. I suppose downloading the officil UE4 rig is the smarter choice though.
@@ChuckPalomo I'd really love to know how you did this. Im trying to use control rigs to make tweaks to animations and then bake them but with the method in this video, the feet seem to contort in random directions. Please lmk how you managed
@@ChuckPalomo I just tried to apply it without making any changes to the bone structure and the feet work flawlessly. I already made an attempt at using the ue5 control rig and coudlnt get it right. PLEASE help!
Would I need to do all this for the Paragon characters that I got from the UE Market Place?
Yeah, those characters do not come with their own control rigs, so you gotta either make them from scratch (link to a video on that in the description too) or do what this video shows and copy an existing one that you already have from another character.
is there a ue4 mannequin control rig somewhere ? or i need to make from scratch? i found one for ue4, .can i transfer it to ue5?
I assume you found the Control Rig Mannequin project from the marketplace for that, which is the one they made for UE4. You can open the project in 4, then migrate the mannequin to an existing UE5 project (rt-click on the mannequin and choose "asset actions->migrate", and leave all the boxes selected. That "should" work, haven't tested actually, but it's a common workflow in general... - lemme know if it works for you?
@@3dJC worked flawlessly.
Thank you so much.
Nevermind the CR_mannequin. I used the trick in the pinned comment with the ue4 skeleton but the finger controls disappear after plugging in forward and backward solve. What should I do?
Update, I found out how to keep the fingers in place. The feet now look like they've been through a meat grinder
Keep working on it, you're learning a lot in this process I bet!! Hard for me to help as I'm not sure exactly what you are doing, but keep going, you'll figure it out!! Best way to learn is by fixing stuff :)
@@3dJC I've tried. Someone else in the comments mentioned they managed to get a ue5 many rig working with the ue4 mannequin skeleton. I just have no idea how to proceed with the missing bones as he mentioned. :(
Hello, can you please do a tutorial for using morph targets with Control rig? Face morph targets with Control Rig. And a bicep flex with Control Rig?
You know that a good one as I need to figure some of that out for a personal project too… this video may give a little bit of a head start: th-cam.com/video/fyhnez1dKSU/w-d-xo.html
Thank you, looking forward to your tutorial@@3dJC
Ok this was the video that had the shortcut.
Sorry, can you say - It works on synty polygon skeleton model?
I haven't tried that one actually, lemme know if you get it to work?
@@3dJC I try it once time and this doesn't work. But if I can do this - I say it. Can I you tell too, if you can do it?