BOOK COMMUNITEA: AUTHORS RUINING THEIR OWN CAREERS AND OH, THE 2023 HUGOS ARE SHADY...[CC]
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The tiktoker who doesn't think we should rate below 3 stars, sounds like she used to consistently rate books below 3 stars, then tried writing, and now is worried readers will flippantly rate her book below 3 stars. Sounds like karma
She's just a petty princess who believes the world owes her success. I bet she still rates books low. That kind of bullshit is almost always a confession.
But she's been writing for mooonths
@@kbird6208 Right? LOL Delusional.
Probably, but if she had taken writing classes before she'd be use to the criticism. I don't get why people get into industries where they'll be reviewed then get mad when they're reviewed. Same for influencers I don't know why you go into a career where people might judge you then get mad when they do.
@@kgal1298 I'm kind of doubting the writing classes happened...
I hate when men say "I respect women, I have a wife/daughter/sister, etc." Because the implication is that the ONLY reason they can even fathom having respect for women is if they are related to one they personally care about. Not like we deserve respect because we're also human beings.
exactly, they "respect" them because they serve them for something through their relationships. to me it barely counts, i cant stand it
I hate that too! Or when men said, “Now that I have a daughter…..”. Nope, it should have always been like that. It’s like what happened to before then. 🤷🏾♀️
I hate that too! Or when men said, “Now that I have a daughter…..”. Nope, it should have always been like that. It’s like what happened to before then. 🤷🏾♀️
The second I hear a man say "I respect women", my brain immediately turns off. It isn't something you should hAVE to say.
and not like most of the biggest misogynists in the world werent husbands and fathers too and the institution of marriage itself was a misogynistic invention historically that allowed men to own women and abuse them however they wanted. doing this kinda shit while having a wife and kids is even more disrespectful tbh, like is your wife okay with you asking a bunch if women to make thirst traps for you? and what if your kids find out about this stuff and think treating women like that is normal and okay??
And she said she’s been writing for 3-4 months like that’s a long time? Most authors spend YEARS on their manuscripts and that still doesn’t mean I have to give it at least 3 stars.
I’ve been writing creatively since 2nd grade and yes some of my stuff is TRASH lol she has got to be so fucking forreal
Imma writer and I’ve been writing for 12+ years and if I get low stars and a good reason why that was given that helps me improve myself for the next installment but to go off and say I demand 3 stars off the bat she crazy
Agreed. I do writing as a hobby and I have been doing so for 7 years.
Yeah, or like writing a dissertation 🤕 where everyone's job is to pick it apart 😂
@@viridianduchess Lawd I’m guilty of over writing myself but in a world where reading and media literacy is at an all time low can you blame us over writers lmao 🤣
Giving all authors a three star is equivalent to giving everyone a participation trophy. It eventually ends up meaning nothing anymore.
Plus a 3 star is literally average. The books that I liked but there were lots of things that I also don’t like. So it cheapens the three star if I think the book is terrible. Also why are authors in reader spaces again
Yep. It just makes three stars the new one star.
That's what i feel like when i hear of booktubers who choose not to rate indie published books they didnt like.
It just disrespectful. Rate the book whatever it deserves.
That's exactly what I thought!
Also I came across a review for some item [don't remember what anymore] recently that in the review the person said they loved whatever they bought, but they only gave it 4 stars "because I never give anything 5 stars." I wish smacking someone through a screen was a possibility
Reviews aren't for writers, they are for readers. I understand that writing is hard (I'm a writer) but just because you spent a lot of time working on your book doesn't mean that people should waste their time reading it.
So much this! Ive read multiple review of books I was interested in getting. Peoples reviews can be so varied. From love to hating the book.
Yes! As a reader it’s nice to see what other people think of a book. Books are expensive! I’ve spent my hard earned money on this book.
Well, yea. If I post a dogshit story, I expect dogshit rating lol
if it helps, sometimes one person's one-star review will list out the problems they have with the book and it's clear that is a book I want to read. Reviews don't have to be positive to still help a book find its audience
That's hard but true.
If we start rating books 3-5, then doesn’t 3 become the new 1?? I’m confused.
You are not confused
This was my exact thought too... Like what?
Yep. And it essentially turns it into a pass/fail system.
It's about as useful as 1~3 rating lmao
I noticed that the 3 was a 1 a while ago.
When men say "I have the deepest respect for women" after doing something deeply disrespectful to women...
When someone says racist things, and when they get called out on it, they say, "I don't hate black people. I have black friends."
It's also equivalent to "I'm not racist, but...."
"I love women, my Mother's a woman" Jess, you crack me up! 😂
That's assuming he wasn't spawned directly from the devil that is
That’s the energy it was giving
I'm actually half woman on my mom's side
If someone cannot stand low-level criticism like a low rating, they should not be in any sector of the entertainment/art industry. While it is an act of vulnerability to put something you made out in the world, people are not obligated to like it.
How else are you supposed to improve your writing? Low reviews mean you have opprotunities to improve your writing. I dont like it either but Id rather have people tell me my writing sucks than lie to me
@@christopherbrainard1890*whispers* I’ve never read a less than 5-star review of one of my books in my life.
@@christopherbrainard1890i mean sometimes but also i think its more complicated than that. I dont think low reviews always mean you have something to improve on. Sometimes people just dont like a book because its not for them and the choices you made didnt vibe with them. Which makes me wonder like, how useful are reading reviews for authors? Because reviews arent always constructive, and then oftentimes ill see a book get 1 star for doing something a certain way, and then another person will give it 5 stars because they loved that one element the 1 star reviewer hated. As a non author i think working with editors and beta readers is the best way to grow your skills. Cuz like, ideally the best authors are out here finding their own voice and honing how they put it to page, rather than just trying to cater to anyone and everyone who didnt like your book. I think its a bad way to go about as an author, thinking that just because people didnt like something means it must be changed
@@christopherbrainard1890 I've always learned more from things I didn't do right the first time.
Or just. Don't read the reviews. Reviews are written by readers for other readers anyway, not for authors, and it's not like authors get notified when someone posts a review of our work. So, not reading them is totally an option! Getting negative reviews is unavoidable, but reading those negative reviews is optional.
For Xiran I believe they have made a few videos saying that their content is blocked in China because of their critical remarks about the govt
I was so worried that they did something bad
@@ace..of..hearts_they-them_probably not the antisemitism and writing a mediocre book
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme I really don't care if someone writes a mediocre book, it is not easy and people can improve their craft. Can you give examples of them being antisemitic?
They aren't antisemitic, they are anti-genocide.
@@ace..of..hearts_they-them_ The only reason I can think of for someone calling Xiran antisemitic is because of their vocal support for Palestine (breaking news, anti-zionism is not the same as antisemitism in case I need to make that clear. No they are not antisemitic lol)
With the whole JD Barker situation: he said that it was sent out to ppl regardless of age or gender, but did anyone who isn’t a young woman come out to say they received that email?
I'm so glad you covered the JD Barker controversy. I'm appalled. That's just a disgusting thing to request of your readers. 🤮🤮🤮
Absolutely FOUL
I realized the author you said you confused him with because I did the same thing when you brought up the topic.
Who is that
People have every right to rate a book any way they want if they have read it
"because I have been writing my book for MONTHS now"
I HAVE BEEN WRITING A NOVEL FOR 7 YEARS AND DONE 4 SEPARATE FULL REWRITES. If a book is written objectively well and it's just not my cup of tea, sure I'll give it 3 stars. If a book is written clearly hastily, with typos, bad metaphors, problematic takes that the author clearly wants you to support, and unimaginative elements that are obvious products of wanting to just put something out and make money? That's a 1 star book~ hard work does not equate to high quality, friend.
GRRM has entered the chat
my own book I've been taking 5+ years to write has now gone on hiatus while I work on something else because clearly I'm not ready to tell this particular story - I can't imagine writing and publishing a book in only 3-4 months let alone something GOOD
Same,my novel is in the works for 8 years with 6 OC REBOOTS and 4 Rewrites as well,like WFT lady.
I'm not really that critical of the books i read,but it clearly shows in the history when if it was made with care and attention.
I literally have a worldbuilding project that has been worked on for more than a decade.
That clip is hella "bruh".
@@kismetr1795lmao 😂😂😂😂
Being a writer is like any other job, if you do it badly you get a low performance grade. Writers or any artists are not exempt from that, those who do not have the stomach for that should not be in the art.
I am begging creatives to get a thicker skin when it comes to their work. Just b/c an author worked hard on something doesn't mean the masses are obligated to like it or pretend to like it so they can feel good about themselves. I guarantee she has given something (books, movies, restaurants etc.) below a 3. Girl, bye.
Also, that JD Barker email is disgusting. W.T.F. These authors still be having the audacity in 2024. When will people get some sense.
She sounds so entitled and doesn't understand that reviews are for readers, not for authors. An average book takes ~15hrs to read, I'm gonna rate it low if I dont want others to waste all that time on it.
Now I Imagine me going to my Professors and saying: I studied hard for this test and did so much work and showed up and did the Test so I at least deserve to pass the test. Or apply that Logic with the 3 Stars onto anything other in real Life 😂
People do say that to their professors all the time 😂
Yeah prof here, not only do they say it all the time but it’s the prevailing idea in a lot of countries. I took a position at a European university and was told that it doesn’t matter if they grasp the content, because they worked really hard and that’s what really matters. Anyway I quit because I’m here to teach not to placate babies.
@@lauren6009 That's super weird and, speaking as a European, I can't believe that that's universal! Certainly wasn't at either of my universities.
@@lauren6009 Sounds Like a paper mill, good on you for getting Out of there. I went to Uni in the UK and Germany, and i WISH they had let me Just Pass some exams 🤣🤣🤣
Some of it is the Uni system, in the UK you get better Ratings as a Uni If you have people graduating with good degrees. As a result, you sometimes get a Kind of Grade Inflation. Schools will Pass Students who dont meet the criteria because the school wants a better Rating. My Uni didnt do that (afaik) but my friend teaches at one that absolutely does. It's driving her nuts during Exam period
If only that worked!!
Like you said, being a husband and father doesn't mean you respect women, also, you shouldn't need to be those things to respect women!!!
Also there’s a reason in the US there’s a federal law protecting the right to leave honest reviews. The Consumer Review Fairness Act ensures people can leave any kind of review they want. This TikTok girl isn’t breaking any laws by whining about what people SHOULD do with reviews but like come on girl…
I’m just curious…are these Author’s expecting a “participation trophy”?!?! I mean my schooling was HARD, I spent HOURS re-writing notes bc of my ADHD, worked 40 hours a week to put myself through school, lost sleep, went above and beyond for my papers…so I guess I should’ve received a MINIMUM grade of a A for effort? The Tom foolery I CAN’T
PS Thank You for your content! Xo
Being an author is being ready to understand that some people are going to hate your book no matter how hard you worked on it, and being okay with it not being everyone's cup of tea. If you struggle with that, it's better to not read reviews.
Agree that authors shouldn't be tagged in reviews. If they want to read them, they'll look for them.
Also not everyone is meant to be a writer.
Why do they think being a husband means anything? We see how some of them treat their wives
Not him saying I’m not creepy I know women. 😂😭
Author and playwright here: I have a theory - the reason someone is rating your book below 3 stars is because you have only been writing it for 3 months and think its a book already. I say this as someone who has sent my first drafts to beta readers and competitions and I am horrified now that I look back at those drafts. A manuscript becomes a book once its gone through a couple of rounds of edits. Stop putting your braindumps up as finished product for people to purchase. People rate things 1 star for a number of reasons. One of them is the book not being what they paid for.
Ps: I am not speaking to Jess here lol, but any authors who feel they are owed a minimum of 3 stars.
Thank you😊@@tasmiatahia_write_dream_change
Given I'm 26...knowing that human ethics drop down the charts in a matter of nanoseconds, the audacity of that author to hit "send" on that email to multiple young women, and then run around saying...I own the criminals but know nothing of the crime...real mind-blown KABOOOM!!! 💀💀💀
She's been writing for 3-4 months!! I've been writing mine for 4 years! And I'm greatful as hell when people even care about rating what I write.
JD Barker done lost his whole mind????
Did he even have a whole mind to lose? Something is deeply wrong with him. I had to laugh about his explanation being a variation of "someone hacked into my email/phone".
Head empty!
“I’m a husband. I’m a father.” For real side-eye 😂. Why they always say that like that has anything to do with actually respecting women.
Kuang promised not to be published in russia and not to pay taxes to the terrorist state but then published two books there since, make it make sense
I do jokingly say that writing is hard and just for writing a book you get one star for free, but you have to earn the rest lol
your dramatic reading of the flowchart gave me life
😎 I do what I can for me peeps
It reminded me of the potion seller video lol
Lowkey wish she could read audiobooks.
What the hell is going on the book community? Its only the FIRST MONTH of 2024!!
Ngl I kinda love it. The sheer audacity is entertaining at least. 😆
Gonna be a long year 🫢
Just because you work hard at something that is difficult doesn’t mean you’re good at it. Reviews are not for authors.
Isn’t that email considered solicitation? Asking for nudes and explicit pictures considered online 🌽
I was wondering this too! And if any were under 18.....👮♂️🚔
Lol….omg the amount of time it took to get the corn…..lol my only excuse is I live in corn producing state 😂😂😂😅😅😅
In my country that email alone is guaranteed jail time.
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I hope USA has some laws against that and some gals get some money by suing the creepo, because I think in my country he commited 3 crimes already
Jess--not on topic, but have you ever considered narrating audiobooks? Your rendition of the "conversation" between Dave et al was so vividly rendered!! Better than several audiobook narrators I've heard recently.
I used to hate rating below a 3 star, this year i turned a new leaf and have had a one star and two stars this year and didnt hate doing it.
I had this playing on my counter while I made an omelette. When you said what the author was asking reviewers for, I whipped around and shouted “WHAT?!!!” So loud. I shocked myself 😂
Dave is almost as infuriating as JD Barker. Dave is really pissing me off and I’m not even involved.
The audacity and ridiculousness of Dave 😳
🤣 Great video, Jess. So much of what you talked about was equal parts ridiculous and disturbing. A lot people out there gotta check themselves. Alas, they lack self-awareness. Thank you for keeping us in the loop.
It’s like no one pauses and *THINKS*
Following the logic of that author, I deserve a Nobel Peace Prize just because I don't lash out on people. It is also very difficult and deserves to be recognized.
Xiran isn't very honest and likes playing the victim. They've been shitting on their publisher for ages every time they admit they choose to not work on the book. They admitted yesterday they only turned in the copy of the book at the beginning of the year (it's still January) and started hate tweeting 2 weeks later about not getting it back.. and that's after the drama they caused in making demands of their editor. It's kind of odd to turn in your book late and then expect them to turn it back to you in a few days.
Yes! If you turn in work late, you get it back late. End of discussion. Xiran needs to just focus on a good 2025 rollout at this point...no need to rush it at the 25th hour.
I wish more people would call them out
Did they really only turn it in at the beginning of the year? I thought the publisher already had part of the book (something about the editor having already done 90k of lines). I thought I saw that post towards the beginning of January. I could be wrong though. If so, yea, that's not right.
@@Cosmos0000 Trad books typically go back and forth from the editing team to the author several times before it's ready. Xiran stated they only handed this draft in at the beginning of the year after what was another multi-month delay on their part and this is the third time it has been delayed because.
@@Gna_d54 So when they said 90k of lines done, was that referring to past drafts and not part of the most recent one?
Im still trying to wrap my head how all this happened this month. Which already felt like a long month. And JD Barker's mess made me want to throw down. He wrote some books with James Patterson. Im glad I never picked up his work.
I feel terrible for Xiran. Also mad about the Hugos.
Thanks for covering this.
January was a long month 😣
I have so much to say to this Book Communi-tea 😅
Story 1: Did she just say she’s been writing for 3 to 4 months and it’s hard?! 😂😂😂 Try 10 years! Lol. I can’t even start with her!!!
Story 2: I think the author got exactly what he wanted with both emails - unpaid for publicity with his name on every book creator’s mouth 😬 😶
Story 3: If pettiness was a publisher 😑
Story 4: That Hugo mess is so concerning 😬. Writers do their darndest to ensure eligibility to these competitions and to be pushed aside without reason when they had traction just makes it feel like it was all for nothing 😤
The dramatic reading of the flow chart is AMAZING. 😂
I don’t work in publishing and have never even stepped foot in a publishing office. But I do work in the corporate world, and I feel like everyone is super overwhelmed with extra work right now. I don’t know the specifics on why they think their editor is Zionist or if the editor said something or did something inappropriate. But I have to say, it sounds (at least the way they worded it) that they took a break for several MONTHS and didn’t work? I’m not sure exactly what was meant by that. But while I respect everyone’s right to take a break and rest when things are rough, if I was off on a deadline by several months at my job….i would have been fired and the person who would have to take over for my work that was behind would be overwhelmed. Even if for some reason I wasn’t fired and I had to pick up on my own work I would be extremely behind. That’s to say that their editor likely has a ton of projects (likely more than they can handle) and may not even work there anymore if there are complaints of them being a Zionist and therefore their requests may be falling to someone else who has to pick up the plate from scratch. I don’t necessarily agree with either but I think putting off a deadline for several months for any reason and then complaining about your employer online isn’t great. 24:10
Of course it's Simon & Schuster that's like, "We might still distribute the creeper's book, tho" lol.
And I was gutted to hear that Heavenly Tyrant is delayed again. Publishers need to get it together 😿
Also it’s gross that a book award would disqualify works based on politics bc the hosting govt is acting like Nicki Minaj over it. Not a fan of that.
Those explicit suggestions in JD Barker’s email should never have been in the “first draft” anyways 💀 and I call BS on the “deepest respect for women” - he clearly doesn’t based on his creepy, immoral (if not borderline illegal) behaviour
As an author some of the most growth I've gotten is from lower star review (as long as they explained why it was rated low). Yes, I have stopped reading reviews now because I know that reviews are not for authors and are made to help other readers. But while I did read them i found some helpful information that actually made me change things up with how I wrote/edited my books. Some of these new authors are so afraid to get reviews on their stuff... It's confusing how they even wanted to put their stuff out there in the first place with that mindset...
You're such a joy to listen to, Jess. Flab---erGASTED is the best pronunciation of that word I've ever heard lol. As for the nonsense, it just rolled itself right into 2024 🤷🏽♀️
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Even if I've drank the tea before I'm still here cause you serve it like no one else. Love your videos, Jess!
I'm grateful that Xiran is a traditionally published author with a sizeable online following who is willing to speak up about Palestine civilians , but they only turned in their book for edits at the beginning of this year. So their publisher+ editor are dropping them because they have missed SEVERAL deadlines. It has nothing to do with activism.
This video was jam packed. I acknowledge it is hard to write a book but everyone is entitled to their opinion and free to rate 1 or 2 stars. I’m sad about Heavenly Tyrant. I was really looking forward to that one. Hopefully it happens this year. It was supposed to be released in the spring.
The side eye was LOUD AS HELL 😂 the fact that I looked at you and you looked at me, I’m dead
As an author, I spend roughly years on multiple manuscripts during that time. I have people interested in reading my work and waiting patiently to read it, and (hopefully) purchase it when it's done. I understand writing and publishing is based on personal preferences, so I'm not expecting three stars just because I've spent upwards of years writing it. I'll appreciate everyone for leaving some kind of criticism but move on.
The 3 star minimum is like saying every video you watch on youtube you have to give it a like. Almost as if 'dislike' doesn't exist.
the three stars woman is reminding me of that one lady who was screaming about people being sad they didn't get an ARC 😭
It's such an odd thing to say! Hard work goes into every branch of art. It's like she didn't realize that books took actual work until...the past 3-4 months lol
So like….as an aspiring author? I don’t think I’d ever care about goodreads reviews on my book. Goodreads is a place for readers to talk amongst themselves about the book. Like they wouldn’t be talking to ME directly so it’s none of business 😅
She must really struggle to watch the olympics where lots of people who train their whole lives and risk their health and safety don’t get a bronze medal. Because we can’t all win and hard work does not equal a gold medal when 20000 other people are trying for the same thing and some people are better than others.
If god didn’t want us to rate lower than 3 stars he wouldn’t have invented the first 2 stars in the first place 😂
It makes ZERO sense! The TikTok girl begging for nicer ratings made me wheeze a bit. I've been working on my book (duology), The Night-Dwellers, for believe it or not 11 years!! (2014 as a Junior in highschool-present) and am currently struggling to find an editor to help me finalize Book 1 so I can finally self publish it on B&N and Amazon. That said, as an up and coming indie author, I fully understand, accept and embrace the reviews and opinions and criticism of any potential reader. Whether positive, constructive, or negative, I'm ready. I just want to put a story- MY story out there for others to hopefully enjoy.
Edit: That author is CREEPY AF, I literally got chills 🤢
simultaneously sick of the cyclical nature of all of the book drama, but also love to hear you TELL me all of the drama as I deleted tiktok for mental health so please keep this series going 🫠
😆😆 I’ll do my best
I don't understand why some writers find it hard to understand that reviews and ratings are for READERS and NOT for them!!!
Xiran reads as very unprofessional to me. Sorry. Several of her requests seem entitled, considering she wasn't even bothering to work on her book for MONTHS. She knew her obligations. You can ask for adjustments, but you are not entitled to them. Then, blasting her publisher, etc. on social media is just tacky.
this! this. I'm grateful that Xiran is a traditionally published author with a sizeable online following who is willing to speak up about Palestine civilians , but they only turned in their book for edits at the beginning of this year. So their publisher+ editor are dropping them because they have missed SEVERAL deadlines. It has nothing to do with activism.
@@IamAlmostRealWitchDo you even know that to be true, that their publisher is dropping them? Or are you just intentionally spreading misinformation?
kind of sad to even host Hugos in a country where authors and journalists are killed for the slightest insult to the powers that be
What wild stuff!
As an author, I can honestly say I don’t care what ratings people give my books, and I don’t understand why authors care. Being a book reviewer first should be a requirement for authors or something so they understand what the reasons are for thinking critically about books and giving different ratings.
Don't these people think (wait this could harm my career).
Xiran is currently tanking her writing career due to being incredibly too online and also entitled. watching it go down from afar is quite a trip.
this. I'm grateful that Xiran is a traditionally published author with a sizeable online following who is willing to speak up about Palestine civilians , but they only turned in their book for edits at the beginning of this year. So their publisher+ editor are dropping them because they have missed SEVERAL deadlines. It has nothing to do with activism.
@@IamAlmostRealWitch that’s not necessarily true. Deadlines change all the time, either because the author requests more time or because the publisher has changed the pub date. I worked more in non-fiction and crime publishing but sometimes manuscripts were finished the week before they were due to go to print! The publisher may feel that her book is better to publish in spring 2025 for example but not communicated that to her yet /it’s not been finalised so they’re leaving it for now.
I mean Patrick Roffuss still hasn’t been dropped! 😂 if anyone would be kicked for missed deadlines it would be him! He’s super famous of course. But Even for a mid list author being dropped for multiple missed deadlines would be highly unusual. I mean it’s only a year late at most, I’ve seen less famous authors deliver far later.
Edit: to add American manuscripts, (where we were publishing the American text concurrently in the UK so had to wait for it to be sent over before printing) were notoriously late so I’ve always assumed they worked even more down to the wire!
@@halliehurst4847 I think the difference here is that Xiran never asked to postpone or change the publication date when they realised they may not finish until deadline run out. They deliberately missed three deadlines and the last one was under the excuse "my activism has taken a toll on me so I can't write right now". They're not an established author, they are a newly published and has one book on the market currently. Not only that, Xiran has complained about their publisher for years publicly for various reasons. One of the deadlines they deliberately withheld because they demanded more money for Iron Widow. Then they bashed the editor on social media for being a "zionist" and then cried when the editor did not want to work with them anymore because of it. This is not just about missing deadlines, but a myriad of bad behaviour and entitlement from their side. Since they are as popular as they are, the publisher would've likely not dropped Xiran just for missing deadlines alone.
@@IamAlmostRealWitch And here you go again copy/pasting essentially the same comment. What is your actual problem with Xiran exactly?
@@elektrakomplexet How are you going to say Xiran “never did” anything? Or that they “deliberately” missed their deadlines? Who are you that you would have intimate knowledge of every communication they’ve ever had with their publisher? Or assert that they would willfully delay the release of the highly anticipated sequel to their instant NYT Bestselling debut? The audacity that you have to speak on this situation with any kind of authority, just so that you can paint Xiran in a negative light. It reeks of some ulterior motive.
“it’s so hard to write a book!” you’re absolutely right, that shit is difficult!! you know what else is hard and time-consuming to do? the job I work to earn the money I used to buy your book 🙂 if a writer is going to publish stories that have to be purchased to read, then it’s fair game imo! Definitely don’t tag them or anything, as you said, but fan/reviewer spaces are not meant for the creators themselves!
I've spent tens of thousands of hours over the past 38 years studying and practicing the art and craft of writing. I'm finally at a point where I can convince my epic-level imposter syndrome that I am capable of writing novels worth publishing. When I finally DO publish the book I'm working on, I will happily take any 1 and 2 star reviews right along with the 3+ stars. Just the fact that someone feels enough of something (anything) to take the time and effort to write a review is a win to me. Nobody is entitled to only positive reviews (or ANY reviews), and if reviewers only gave 3+ stars that would do nothing but make 3 star reviews the new 1 star. What a ridiculous line of thinking. This is why authors need to stay out of reader/reviewer spaces.
Part of my job includes things like making culverts, fixing and installing fencing, and bucking and swamping downed trees. It's hard work, and it takes a lot of time, and that's true whether or not I do a good job. But if i don't do a good job then I can and do deserve to be criticized and rated poorly. The difficulty of what I did doesn't matter, and it's the same for authors.
“She has been writing for four months, I have been writing for _ years!” Me who has been imagining the story since mid 2021 and hasn’t even started on the second chapter yet 💀💀
Thank you, Jess! Rounding up (and catching up) on all this news is really helpful for me. "That's all I got." That's ALL?! All of it was juicy. 👏
As an ex creative writing teacher, that first one triggered me. The reviews are for the readers, not the author. If you can’t handle criticism, do something else. Eight billion people in the world, odds are someone is not gonna like you.
And complaining about 3 months of work? I’ve been working on my manuscripts for years and I don’t expect people to throw me a parade. If you can’t handle it… step back and leave room for the rest of us.
The teas were spicy! Thank you for expounding more especially the first two items. I saw it but didn't get much info since I didn't dig deeper.
Books get optioned for movies all the time without making it to the screen, so, unless things are actually being filmed, I suspect JD Barker's deal will probably just gather dust until the rights revert. (I may have too much faith in Hollywood not wanting to touch this mess.)
TBH i'm shocked he didn't go full cait corrain and have a fake fight with his "PR team" about what "they did."
I couldn’t stop giggling and trying not to cackle as I went on my mid morning constitutional in my corporate park. At first I thought this man really tried to pull a “it’s a prank bro…I couldn’t figure out how to use a calendar and thought it was April 1st” 🤪🙄. The story took so many twists and turns it probably had more plot than his actual book. I am wondering if he bought the mailing list and that it is why it had ppl who didn’t sign up for his emails.
Thank goodness we have someone to report on the seemingly endless messes in the book community!
I have to say, I was very worried about the title image, because Babel is one of the best books I’ve ever read, and I CANNOT handle any drama that would change my perception of it. R.F. Kuang is a legend.
You may not have been the first but you are definitely one of the best. Your take on things is unique, entertaining, and engaging. Your POV is both insightful and hilarious. The only thing that would have made this video even better would have been a cameo from Nigel and his delightful side eye. This was such a messy month. As someone currently writing a book, you are correct that it is hard AND also that not everyone works hard on the books they publish. As with any product, once it's out in the world, the world can render their opinion. That creepy author needs to have some bigger consequences because that behavior is...yikes. And the Hugo Awards need new rules.
I can't help but think about how privileged it is to be able to just not do your job because something else is currently more important to you and you're not in the mood. No matter what this thing is, god damn, I'd be homeless lol
Some authors took YEARS to finish their book.
Great vid, I agree completely! Also your hairstyle is stunning!
I want to start using "the rules we must follow" as an excuse for random things. LOLOL That flowchart was chef's kiss. Thank you, Jess!!!
I love what you said about tagging authors. Personally as an author, I love getting tagged in positive reviews on Instagram. When tagging people, I usually look and see if they interact with the review posts they're tagged in. That way I know if it's something they're interested in, or if it's something they ignore.
Love this video of all the book-tok drama!!
Hqhahaha "please get out of town, and be quiet." Hahaha Jess I love it hahahaha
I appreciate this since I’m not really on social media but I like to know these things!
I have self-published two books, and the idea of a negative review haunts me, however my work isn't for everyone. Not everyone will understand what I'm doing, or it won't be something they like. The most I can do is thank them for taking their time to even look at it, and move on. If it contains something useful I'll take it, but I can't complain. I put my work out there for people, and if the people speak. They speak. I would never want someone to take pity on me as a writer and rate my work a 3. No if it's a 1 to you give me a 1. Please lol.
I am a published writer, and it's very clear that woman is not. It's so embarrassing seeing someone run into a new field like they're the first one to do something difficult (four months? are you kidding me, bish?), slapping on the self-pity like a seven layer cake. Writing IS very hard. Lots of things are hard. Do you know how long it takes to become a surgeon? But I'm not gonna be like, "Hey, they worked really hard to get to that point" if my surgeon does a terrible job.
And yes, obviously a bad book experience isn't comparable to life-altering surgery, but the metaphor stands for most things. Sending awful food back at a restaurant, disliking the way a clothing item looks on your body. Personal preference is not some sort of universal standard, and that woman's tiktok was so incredibly revealing in such a short period of time. I get the sense that she is not ready to be a professional writer. She seems self-concerned in a way that makes me think her book is probably atrocious, and coming out to manipulate people into giving you pity votes doesn't suggest this is going to be a solid novel. If you can't handle people being mean about the things you put out in the world, you're gonna have a tough time. Even if they're objectively wrong, people are allowed to interpret things as they will and hold the opinions that they do. You're already prepared to be upset, girl. Maybe this is just not the career path for you, as there isn't a successful writer in the world who's never received harsh or unfair criticism. Saying, "But I worked really haaaaard" makes you sound like a hack.
EDIT: Sorry, I was so irked as a fellow writer that I spewed out a reply before I kept watching. You used the same example, lol. But yeah, it's such a flimsy argument she's trying to make.
I appreciate you so much, thank you for putting an amazing video out as per usual!!!❤❤❤❤
Always look forward to a new Jess video!
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I read a book by JD Barker in 2022. It was mid, 3 stars. It was about an "erotic" serial killer that had been groomed as a kid. With POV chapters from the killer. And......... this explains so much.
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Yeah, he could have gone to models or other creators to create the content he wanted, but that costs money!
Glad he's suffering consequences.
“Please get out of town and be quiet” exactly this!
Girl your sweater is AMAZING!
I def won’t be rating books 3 ⭐️ or more because of your own insecurities… if you choose to write and publish, you need to accept that not every one will enjoy it and that’s just part of life! If you cant handle criticism then don’t go into arts in general you’ll be unhappy in that field!!… seriously these people…