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the irony of a series built on car chases, being fast and furious having the worst car chases in cinema is heavy
The irony indeed!
fast five was the last fast and furious movie to have actually good car chases
Tokyo Drift has a pretty great one at the climax of the film. The 2nd one has few nice ones too. And the 4th has a pretty good one with the blue Skyline. But yeah, there's a lot lacking.
It actually feels more like a statistical inevitability BECAUSE the entire series is built on car chases, there's so many you can't not have some of the worst ones come up
They literally are amazing lol 😂
I don't know anybody who thinks they are bad
Dom in F&F1: *sees 2 police cars* 😲
Dom in F&F8: *jumps over a submarine to avoid a missle* 😐
PAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA!
Accurate!
He leveled up, LMAO!
I have to keep reminding myself that the first movie featured the crew boosting VCR/DVD combos. Truly an art film compared to what it is now.
@@OgYokYok Number 1 is Citizen Kane in comparison....!
Character development
The original 1979 Mad Max car chase is absolutely one of the best - it looked dangerous because it generally was. But it’s Miller’s choice of angles that covers it is what makes it truly iconic.
It's definitely a good one for sure! Very raw and gritty!
@@MarcusFlemmings i love The Road Warrior even more than any of them
@@andyventure That's a good chase for sure!
When the cops hit the combi was amazing how the car make horizontal turns
Best ever was in Mad Max Fury Road and it is not even close. Then, MI:2 and Matrix Reloaded.
Baby Driver. Are we not going to talk about Baby Driver?
Great video!
You know what....that is a great film for car chases! I was going to a video on the opening scene in that film -- but there's been many videos about it already, so I have nothing new to say about it other than it's a great chase :) Thanks for the comment!
baby driver is just diet blues brothers
No mention of Ryan Goslin DRIVER. Oh wait, it had zero point zero car chases!!! 😂😂😂
@@kostastube2010 Nah, there was one car chase in it after the botched heist where the hot next door neighbour's husband got killed, but it wasn't very good to be quite honest.......
very very different movies mate@@TrippingHawk
I think the Nick Fury car chase in the Winter Soldier was done very well, but I guess the tension of the moment also had a part to play in that scene as well.
There's not much of a chase per se but it's a great action scene!
One of the best
underated opinion
I don't mind the Matrix sequels... but that Reloaded freeway chase is sublime. Watched that scene on its own probably over 100 times. Incredible.
Sublime, sublime, sublime!
Plus the music is one of the best chase tracks ever in cinema
@@cabnbeeschurgr6440 i agree with this
Ronin has one of my favorite car chases in a movie. And don't forget Bullit! One of the most iconic car chases in all of film history!
Ronin is incredible! Bullit is great too!
Ronin is a masterpiece on multiple levels. The chases were spectacular.
@@MarcusFlemmings Seriously, how can the car chase from Bullit, the mother of all car chases, not be in here?!
@@einundsiebenziger5488 there's so many chases not here...it's a great chase for sure!
Those are my top two of all time, with Ronin probably just a notch above. I also love the one in Paris in the first Bourne movie.
I adore a good car chase. The Blues Brothers, The Raid 2 and The Batman had spectacular chases. I was even background on F&F6 and saw them film a chase using The Stig as a driver. That was a fun time. Its s shame they went the CGI route as the safe theft in Fast 5 is the best in the series.
Fast 5 is definitely the best in the cinema and the only one I've revisited! The Raid 2 car chase is a good one :)
Blues Brothers!!! oh man, that's easily my favorite.
Yeah its so rare to seeing great car chase from Indonesian cinema
Wait, The Stig?
Raid 2 car chase was the most visceral experience I had in a movie theatre!
I didn't see Raid 2 in the cinema! But at home, it's a good old chase! It's shame that the film is so long and the story is so elaborate compared to the original!
Woah! Don't be throwing shade on Raid 2 😂 Good point about the correct utilisation of CGI - should be used to enhance and not totally create unrealistic situations, unless the film is intentionally OTT. To be fair, the 2 Fast franchise 'jumped the submarine' several films back. With the incredible evolution of AI, we will no doubt see an even greater move towards badly constructed chase scenes (Subscribed)
@@simonmcguire4290 thanks for the sub! And The Raid is better then Raid 2! 😀
Also a rare awesome sequel
I was baffled by how extremely different The Raid was from The Raid 2
Even the world-building was cranked up to 11 in The Raid 2. There's a Hammer Girl, Baseball Man & Karambit Man? I get that it's a natural progression for Rama to learn more about the criminal underworld... but wow the shift from a single apartment complex to basically organizations with potential for city-wide influence got me good.
I love both Raids, but Raid 1 still feels more like a "solid" complete film, overall
uh, Bullitt? Steve McQueen doing his own driving, the amazing light jazz score by Lalo Schifrin that stops when the action really gets going, the absolute sense of speed, velocity, and big American muscle cars? The incredible style? The analogue grittiness contrasted with the sleek surfaces of the cars themselves?
Deffo up there for sure!
For Your Eyes Only is a good example of how you can do comedy without undermining or sidelining the excitement of a car chase the way Spectre does. I know ppl kind of look down on For Your Eyes Only but the car chase with the Citroen 2CV is by far one of my favourites because it makes so much of so little, nowadays movies require the insanest stakes or settings to get any sort of tension, gadgets and explosions and many many cars and whatnot. For Your Eyes Only has just one clunky sturdy little car, immediately subverting the expectations by blowing up Bond’s fancy gadgety Lotus Esprit, and putting him smack-dab in the hilly quaint countryside of Spain, chased by two cars, and the entire chase just takes every single possible scenario, obstacle, opportunity that might arise out of such a limited setting and situation. It’s great how car chases back then were like clever plot-writing, they had to figure out the obstacles and issues that arise during a chase, and the smart problem-solving of our protagonist, showing his skill and cunning. Not by just shooting a gun, not by just having a bigger fucking car or driving faster or tougher, no by being SMART.
i can't remember that chase, but do love me some Roger Moore!
“Love a drive in the country don’t you?”
I think TWINE hit a real sweet spot with the Q-Boat Thames chase. It had the set pieces (boats blasting past the Houses of Parliament and Elizabeth tower, Millennium Dome, the crazy barrel roll jump), but it still felt grounded in realism (no CGI), with a slick, engaging micro-plot and thanks to David Arnold, a score that is a master-class in audio storytelling. There’s humour too, but just a couple of hints (police cars chasing a boat, the wheel clampers), that doesn’t distract from the overall sequence.
@@OFFtheCHIZANE those cops were recurring I remember, correctly?
As a huge bond fan... FYEO is in my top 5 all time greats...
And I absolutely loved that chase that you wonderfully described...
Great example of good and bad car chases. These days, the Fast and Furious installments resembles a Looney Toons Cartoon more than an action movie. The Matrix reloaded was not nearly as good as the first movie, but that incredible freeway chase helps me forgive many of its shortcomings.
pAHAHA! Agreed re: looney tunes!! And yes, The Matrix 2 isn't as good as the original...not many films are...but it has was great action set pieces!
Looney tunes cartoons are awesome. fast and furious movies are not.
Extraction 1 Chase scene is the most memorable to me. The decision to make the whole sequence look like it's just one shot was genius
It's a nice scene! It didn't come to mind...probably because I know how much CG is used in that scene. But it's a nice scene none-the-less!
What do you think about the car chase scene in the second film?
@@ajinurfajri1952 I haven't watched it yet. The first film is one of my favorite action movies, I hope the second one is as good
@@ajinurfajri1952 In F&F?
@@christaincarvalho the second film just leveled up from the 1st movies one take
Tomorrow Never Dies might have the best car chase in recent Bond history. It just sparks joy to see James using his new RC supercar like a kid in Christmas.
Hhahaha! Old school!
Have to agree - his face when he drives over the caltrops but then makes the tires re-inflate is joyous.
Also the tank chase in Goldeneye is fantastic and manages to make an absolutely ridiculous concept believable and tense
The handcuffed motorcycle chase is probably my favorite in all of Bond - very imaginative and fun. But I do love how hard David Arnold's score goes during the RC scene - Backseat Driver.
@@matman000000 pride of the white star liners. The tank chase went over the top in a not over the top way. It was perfect
Gotta mention of H.B. Halicki’s Gone in 60 seconds. Arguably one of the most raw and real car chases in film history, since it was practically all filmed without the correct permits on public roads with regular people as extras. as well as being one of the longest chases in film history
Never seen it, but many mentioned it :) love the comment! Stick around!
Some other great chases are Mission Impossible Rogue Nation (car chase and bike chase), Mission impossible Fallout (bike chase), Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning, Jack Reacher (first movie), and Quantum of Solace's opening.
Big Tom Cruise fan?
Was gonna mention Rogue Nation too. The bike scene is really good
@@MarcusFlemmingsFan or not. Those scenes mentioned by @aparkc were top notch, filmed without CGi and were one hell of an experience in the theaters
"Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry" "The Junkman" "Vanishing Point " "The Diver". Some of my favorites that get depressingly overlooked.
Not seen the first 3! Good shout!
"The Driver" from 1978. Not The Diver... Lol.
@@douglascarter2078 Hhahaha! I thought you meant that :)
I can't imagine the latest Fast and Furious movies having good car chases
They dont! I can't stand them -- although Fast 5 ain't bad!
You don't watch F&F for good chases, you watch it for over the top chases. The whole point is how over the top they can get this time. Therefore if they'd done a normal chase they would maybe make some people happy, but disappoint a bunch of others.
The first one was good in my opinion. Yes, there was some bull in the final chase, but props to them for doing it for real. Just watch the second movie at the beginning. The practical stuff look really good, but the CGI parts - oh, boy. You're in for a "treat" 😂
@@vdochev I'm just not a F&F fan! F5 is as far I'll give praise!
@@MarcusFlemmings LOL, I stopped watching after Tokyo drift.
Even the car chases in Blues Brothers are better than today's Fast and Furious
I've not seen it! But many have mentioned it :) thanks for the comment!
I would like to add Speed Racer. Purely CG made, but great within the context of the movie. IMHO, the final race was absolutely superb in various aspects.
It's not a bad film - but it's hard to get past it's cheesiness (which is done on purpose)!
That final race with the flashbacks to different quotes brings me to tears every damn time, an incredible movie imo for sure
@@gazza8340 felt the same way man, so good
Ugh, no, it's fuck-ugly.
Speed Racer is one of the few films I'd be willing to call a "Live Action Cartoon." Only others I've seen I'd be willing to call that is the 1994 Flintstones movie and maybe the Early 2000's Scooby Doo films.
The Fast and Furious Franchise has become a cartoon show.
Yeah, a bad cartoon!
The irony is that there are cartoon with pretty good car chases, like the one in Gunsmith Cats.
The penguin and Batman chase from the “The Batman” was one of the if not the bast car chase scene I’ve watched
It's a good chase, a bit too dark and murky at time -- thanks for the comment! Stick around!
I saw clips from the car chase in Ronin (a personal fave of mine), and I was reminded of what Johnathan Pryce said of it.
“People say I looked terrified in that scene. I was. I was holding on for dear life.”
And that’s another element that’s needed. Put the performer in the actual vehicle, obviously safely but in a way that makes the moment real. Stone faced driving makes me nervous, as though the person had a death wish and I’m trapped. I feel better if the driver or rider on screen is tense or scared a bit.
And yes, the Matrix does have the best car chase ever. And Mad Max Fury Road has a special place for me as I saw it in the theatre and I could tell immediately what I saw on screen was actually what was filmed. Practical effects almost always triumph.
Love this comment! The Jonathan Pryce line is something i didn't know! He looks SO scared 😂 - that whole film is incredible!
Almost every single shot in Fury Road is an effects shot.
The exceptions are almost all interior shots.
You are praising actual filming while talking about a film that's almost always showing you something that wasn't filmed and wasn't practical effects.
Which just proves that people have no idea what they are talking about. "Practical effects" is now just how people say "good effects" and "CGI" is just how people say "bed effects".
At least you picked a film where the vehicles usually at least existed, even if the terrain, sky, explosions and dusk were generated in a computer, and the vehicles supposedly driving next to each other were actually filmed completely separately, and the actors filmed separately from everything else.
@@HALLish-jl5mo Thanks for this! Not sure what you mean though...? If you're talking about the part in the video where I say Fury Road came out the same year and put the other chase to shame....? Then I can discuss that more...
@@MarcusFlemmings I'm not addressing anything you said, I'm addressing the comment above which talked about how they could tell that everything was "actually filmed" when it wasn't all "actually filmed" and in reality they don't know what they are talking about.
@@HALLish-jl5mo no need for nastiness. I can be corrected without being told I am an ignoramus.
I can't leave this thread empty of any mention of the chase scene on the speeder bikes in Return of the Jedi. That was just so much fun. And Terminator 3, too, with the construction crane.
They are both great scenes! I shan't deny!
The car / motorcycle chase in Paris in Mission Impossible Fallout is up there for me.
it's another good one for sure!
Mission impossible 5 bike chase was NUTS!
I love the final chase scenes in Deathproof! I was on the edge of my seat when Zoe Bell's character is on the hood of the challenger while Stuntman Mike tries to knock her off by slamming their car repeatedly! So intense!
Love that film and that scene!
@MarcusFlemmings Also the fact that all of these scenes were done with practical effects made them way more insane!
@@jessecritchfield6792 YES!! So epic!
Tarantino based this off Mad Max car chases. He was the biggest fan ever.
Duel (1971) has one of the best car chases for me, the entire movie is surrounded by it, but Spielberg's knowledge makes it extremely fun and engaging to watch
The Bourne movies and Baby Driver have my absolute favorite car chases in movies. I love it when movies use matching audio from the cars they're using. Its nice to see a Subaru and hear that iconic EJ Boxer sound with equal length headers. Nothing takes me out of it more than when i see a car thats supposed to be an Inline 6, and they've overdubbed a V8 in post. Even in the first Fast & Furious chase scene, Brians green Eclipse does not have the sound of a 4G63.
WOW! Amazing comment! Stick around!
I was going to say the French Connection’s chase is one of the very best, and was delighted to see you mention it immediately!
Fun video 👌
I was hoping you’d spend just a little longer on the Ronin car chase, which to me is world-class. That was probably the one car chase that had me literally on the edge of my seat for the whole time!
Sorry, I'll do a separate video just for that chase!
@@MarcusFlemmings Hey, no need to be sorry at all 😉☺️
To me, it's about editing and the shots the editor has to work with. Having fast cuts is a double edges sword and could be effective if done right. Like Mad Max, or even before that, car chases in The Bourne Trilogy.
Deffo! But also it has to be shot well! If, like in F9, it's just CGI for 95% of the shot it will never sell to the human eyes. Fab comment! Stick around!
One really good example of a well constructed and incredibly surprising car chase is the one in Nightcrawler. It's brief, visceral and perfectly edited.
Love this shout! I can't remember it tbh! But i'm sure it's fab!
My personal Top 5 car chase scenes (in order): French Connection (1971), Bullitt (1968), Ronin (1998), The Bourne Identity (2002), The Transporter (2002)
For me the men putting on their seat belts is just makes it magic(Bullit)
Great list! I've not seen The Transporter - but the rest are fantastic!
@@patmann9363 And the soundtrack. When the music stops and the burnout begins, it's all business from there. Such an interesting way of peaking intensity, by simply stopping the suspenseful music that had been building.
great list!!
The Road Warrior.....Ronin...French Connection....To Live and Die in L.A.....Blues Brothers......these are the best in movie history. They were not only expertly filmed, executed, but they also had reason and drover (no pun intended) the story forward. As far as I know no CGI on either of them as well.....
All are fantastic choices! I've not see LDLA! I can't find it anywhere!
I still remember the RC car chasing Harry Callahan around the streets of San Francisco in The Deadpool. I loved that movie. I loved that scene.
The matrix reloaded's action set pieces are amazing. The chateau fight and the highway set piece outclass nearly every action movie this decade. The camera work, choreography and soundtrack is immaculate. Most of all everything has style, and there is a natural build up and release of tension.
Agreed! It's not a car chase...but for fight scenes, agreed!
The Matrix sequels get a bad rap but the freeway chase is PERFECTION. I don't care what anyone says. Opinions matter not here. This is fact
Totally agree! And the fight just before it!
That may be, but the rest of the film is rubbish. The third managing to be even worse than the second.
@@loganmedia4401 I loved all three movies. The Matrix trilogy is in my all time top ten trilogy.
0:51 The best car chase scene in this video.
Totally agree! Could watch it over and over again! Big love for the comment!
Being a car guy, what I hate most about car chase scenes in some movies is the protagonist having a fast powerful car and the regular cop cars or antagonist's regular car keeping up with him. That just wouldn't happen. Once you floor it, you would lose them and see ya later.
Good shout! But would be a pretty boring chase!
Honestly, peak car chases are from The Blues Brothers. If you ever want to do a follow-up on this video, it could be interesting to look at that film :)
I've never seen that film - but it's been mentioned a few times. I'll give it a watch! Thanks for the comment!
@@MarcusFlemmingsyou dare to make a video about car chases without having seen Blues Brothers. You just disqualified yourself.
@@rictusmetallicus I KNOW! I feel I bad! One day I'll watch it!
Some fantastic films on your list, Ronin however, is the love letter to car chase films. Love your content.
Love the way you put that ❤
Yes, for me it’s the most riveting car chase I’ve seen.
HUGE LOVE for this comment! Means alot! And agreed!
It's up there!
Terminator 3 has one of my favorite car chases ever, with the crane and the remote controled emergency cars, and it was made almost in its entirely without CGI!
Agreed here!
I’m surprised no one is mentioning The Italian Job (1969)! The car chase with the minis and the bus is so fun to watch, can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched it!
Great shout! Thanks for the comment! Stick around!
The Batman car chase scene were also iconic too
No "taxi' car chases ? Disappointed!
When the two 500E's chase the 406 at the end.. That's one of the best chase scenes ever made. The car sounds, the music and the intensity is peak
A few of my favourites: Bullit (1968)
Driver (1978)
We Own the Night (2007)
Vanishing Point (1971)
Thelma and Louise (1991) - though it has some of that 90's cheese.
Haha! Nothing wrong with some cheese! Thanks for the comment! Stick around!
Death Proof is the result of Tarantino growing tired of CG car chases.
You gotta watch some older car chase movies. You can't talk about bad car chases vs good car chases and not show The Blues Brothers, Smokey and the Bandit, Gone in 60 Seconds, Vanishing Point, Death Proof, To Live & Die in LA, etc.
Well The French Connection came out before any of those films :) and I talk about that scene as a good example. I've seen all the films you mentioned, bar To Live and Die in LA - as it's not available anywhere. Thanks for the comment!
@@MarcusFlemmings The Blues Brothers would be a great example of how comedy and high stakes/high octane chase scenes can be done successfully.
@@TrippingHawk Not seen it! But many have mentioned it - I have no doubt it's good :)
blues brothers was incredible for a lot of reasons. their car chases broke records that still havent been beaten.
@@IIIDemon These Blues Brothers shout outs are amazing! I need to watch.
Another great, visceral car chase was in To Live And Die In L.A.!
I need to see this film!!!
4:55 Man that cut to the Mad Max chase scene gave me goosebumps dude.
Huge love!! Thanks for this :)
what about the Blues Brothers? one of the most classic car chases
Never seen it :(
The original Gone in Sixty Seconds car chase was epic 🤘 Great video Marcus, thank you .
Do you know what, I've not seen that one! Might have to check it out :) big love as always!
@@MarcusFlemmings The original Gone is 60 Seconds has the longest car chase in movie history at 40 minutes AND they destroyed 93 cars in the process (and you see the car wreck footage). Plus they had a really tight budget and didn’t have the proper permits so it was all filmed on Sundays (when offices of bureaucrats were closed) and it was a *ONE TAKE* and that’s a wrap kind of situation. It’s pretty impressive from a logistical point of view and part of cinematic history IMO….definitely give it a looksy Marcus. 🩵
@@GreatGreebo so many films to watch! ARGGGGH! Paahaha! I've seen the remake where Angelina has dreads, does that count?!
I've figured out the F&F franchise progression. It's literally GTA V online. The moment submersible cars and jet bikes with missile launchers arrived, it all went to hell.
The most fun I've had watching a car chase scene was both of the most recent Mission Impossibles. Incredible stuff right there.
Some really good chases! But not that memorable in my mind. The most recent one was good but too long :) thanks for the comment! Stick around!
The MI franchise car and bike chases are also very well done! With high stakes and practical stunts!
Agreed! The most recent had a great one :)
Not having any of the Baby Driver chase scenes in here is a crime
Haha! Yes, but it's been done to death on other channels!
There's a reason it didn't become as much of a classic as some of the others mentioned.
LMAO that scene from Austin Powers will forever be hilarious
I love it! I can't deny.
In 2024 car chases in today's films are dead. Last one I remember being so good was the Cuda scene in John Wick 4. It's a lost art now. All time favs are Duel, Bullitt, White Lightning, Seven Ups, Blues Brothers, Gone in 60 Seconds (both versions), The Driver, Road Warrior, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Terminator 1 & 2, Tomorrow Never Dies, Short Time, Black Dog, Ronin, Raid 2, Bourne trilogy, Drive and Baby Driver. Many more!!!
Great great choices!! Thanks for this and please do subscribe!
Not gone lie Bad Boys 2 and Terminator 3 have some of most underrated car chases of all time
Agreed with Bad Boys 2!
Great video! "Fast food filmmaking" is a perfect way to put it, and it has definitely been the bane of movie making since the over reliance of CGI.
I gotta say though.. as a big lover of practical effects and an even bigger hater of CGI, I still a die F&F fan. I get that they are super unrealistic at this point, but I feel like they perfectly walk the line of taking themselves seriously and not taking themselves seriously, which most movies coughMARVELcough fail miserably at. I think it's mostly due to all the actor's chemistry with each other, and aside from a couple people (looking at you, Rock "The Dwayne" Johnson) you can really tell that everyone genuinely enjoys being with each other.
Last thing: a really fun movie that is about 80% car chase is the original 1974 Gone in Sixty Seconds. It's full of insane stunt driving including a devastating UNSCRIPTED car crash that was kept in the film.
This comment is LIFE! Love it! Also I love the fact that you defended F&F! I don't want this channel to be an echo chamber. I love fast 5 but the rest don't really work for me...and that's okay. They work for a helluva lot of people. Based on the box office! Stick around sir!
One of the best car chases no one ever talks about is from the first Jack reacher movie. No cgi just a raw big block chevelle car chase. Gives me goosebumps every time I watch it.
Fully agree that Spectre chase is boring. Contrast it with the car park sequence in Tomorrow Never Dies, and there’s no contest. TND gives us an innovative take on the genre, with great stunts, a slick look, and a great soundtrack.
Also the tank chase! I think from Golden Eye!
Thank you for giving the car chase from Matrix Reloaded the credit it deserves. I agree that it's the best one there is. I saw it in the cinema when it was first released and it was mind-blowing, despite the rest of the film being a bit of a snooze.
Yes, I saw it in the cinema when it first came out too and it was mindblowing! Still is, to this day! Great comment! Do stick around!
Yeah, I think the worst thing an action film can do is create all the "meat and potatoes" of a car chase in post-production.
Tell me about it! It's so annoying! The Fast and Furious films are the worst culprits!
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The last one I saw, my friend lost it and kept screaming "PHYSICS" at the more egregious parts.
@SewerTapes paahahahahahaha! I didn't subject myself to the pain by entertaining that film - nor part with my hard earned money! 😂
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Oh no, it was downloaded. Part 6 I think. I'm on a seemingly endless quest to find the worst movie ever made, so I've seen trash that makes Furious Fastness look like Citizen Kane. . . stuff that made that same friend spray Febreze in his own eyes. Not even joking.
@@SewerTapes HAHAHAHAAHAHHA! I need to stay away from your friend, and you it seems - I simply can't embark on such trash in my life! Time is too short! Troll 2 might be the one though!
I want to give a shoutout to the Dukes of Hazzard movie from 2005. The second half of the movie was essentially just one long interconnected car chase, and it was amazing.
7:43 Thank you!
Matrix Reloaded is best action film ever!
Wow! BIG statement! I think Matrix 1 is a better action film than 2, but 2 had the better stand out sequeneces! With a worse story :)
CGI IS NOT THE PROBLEM!
The problem is when you SEE that it's CGI.
YES!
Three of the best that come to mind in no particular order... Bullitt, The Spy Who Loved Me, Death Proof
I think the lotus / helicopter chase in Spy Who Loved Me is an underrated gem
Having a real car and helicopter pass within feet of each other and clever camera angles to capture the movement give the visceral quality you highlighted
AND it has humour without resorting to pure ridiculousness, up to and including the car changing into a submarine to finish ( mainly because it starts as a real car and finishes as a real submarine )
The car and train chase is something I experienced in DRIVER 2 from ps1. it's cool to know where it got it's inspiration
Yesterday, I noticed Ronin was on Prime and watched it once again. Such a good movie. From McGuffin to acting to car chases, story. Almost 30 years old yet still feels so fresh.
Incredible film!
how did you forget the blues brothers car chase finale!
Not seen it :(
Talking about something else, I believe you've described perfectly why I love playing GTA IV (yes, FOUR!) with my Logitech G29, albeit it has to be modded for the wheel to work ingame. I ADORE zooming around Liberty City just like in the movie Ronin while being chased by the police: it's beautifully visceral, especially playing from the point of view of Niko while driving and using TrackIR. Yes, it's an "old" game (prolly 15 years old now!), but having it modded, it makes you feel like you're driving in Ronin's car chases. To me, at least.
Thanks! xD
Some of my favorites that are not mentioned in the video are Drive, Nobody, Tokyo Drift 1st race, Mad Max, Gone in 60 seconds Eleanor chase, Taxi, Bullitt, The Batman. I love great car sounds and intense scenes
That shot of Keanu Reeves talking about the drivers for the scene. Cracks me up 😂😂😂
After seeing the Spectre car 'chase' scene I went back and watched the opening car chase scene to Quantum Solace and it's night and day.
The editing is clunky with too many cuts, but it's fast, feels real, we see Bond who, like you said, is a calm and cool character actually looking like he's in trouble, no reality bending gadgets, just guns, driving ability and also luck, the environment in a narrow tunnel with traffic & police being both a benefit and also a hindrance.
Spectre is a bad film, so is the most recent one...Casino Royale and Skyfall remain the only two good Bond films on Craig's record! Thanks for the comment! Stick around!
Going back to the classic film Drive from 2011, that was a visceral car chase/movie. It was beautiful
It is visceral for sure! Not many chases but it has some good ones!
I'll be honest, the Penguin chase in The Batman 2022 was a pretty cool chase scene that sticks to my head to this day
It's a good chase...a little murky but good! Thanks for the comment - stick around :)
Fun fact the French connection, at the beginning of the clip theres a white car that hits him, thats a real civilian car, they didnt have any license so that was a real genuine car crash
3:00 I think the main issue with the Bond chase is that it seems clearly intended for product placement. You're not meant to look at the action, you're meant to look at the car. The shots are long and clear; at low speeds. You're meant to drool over the Aston Martin that 3% of the world could afford to buy.
The ironic thing about James Bond is that they dont very often have "visceral" action, at least not in the older movies, instead opting more for a action-comedy approach using situational humor to drive the comedy and the action at the same time. It certainly was entertaining.
Spectre though....used the comedy to put a stop to the action. Which is bad.
F&F 1: realistic and therefore dangerous car chases;
F&F9: cg car swinging on the vine like Tarzan.
Pahahaa! At Tarzan is realistic though!
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Excellent analysis! Love the 'fast food film-making' comment. When you said visceral car chase, I immediately thought of Nick Fury vs the Hydra agents posing as cops in Captain America: Winter Soldier.
Winter Soldier does have a great chase! Love the comment! Stick around!
the fact that Baby Driver is not mentioned is criminal.
Baby driver easily has some of the best chases ive ever seen, and most of its practical effects.
A fantastic chase rarely talked about is the beginning of Beverly Hills Cop 1. That semi does some scary stuff.
That bridge scene in F9 really had me at a loss for words. 💀
My best friend and I found ourselves laughing hysterically trying to make sense of what we witness.
The Bourne Identity and The Transporter definitely copied Ronin regarding the car chase scenes.
100%
One to add to future episodes - the car chases from the original French film, "Taxi" (1998). Of course it's sequels would go on to devolve into silliness (which is fine in terms of the universe it occupies) but the first film has some great, visceral chases - especially the final chase scene between the police (in said Taxi) and the bank robbers which is inverted because the robbers are chasing the police... Some amazing camera work in that one, and completely practically shot too. The rigs they used are quite impressive.
Been mentioned before and it has come great chases! The story is crap though :)
The less the chase focuses on the cars, the worse it is. I don’t know how Hollywood has lost that. Directors seem to think that the only way to get good reviews is to make their film more absurd, more dazzling, more CGI.
Like nah dude, just tell a good story and hire a good cinematographer. Get fancy with the camerawork. It’s genuinely concerning how many people will just gawk at the worst cgi we’ve seen in decades and give rave reviews because the only thing they look for is bright lights and flashing color.
Edit: some great examples of modern chase scenes are the ones in The Man from UNCLE. A tad bit absurd at times, especially in that first chase, but still I think they show a love for both the cars and the characters. Great modern spy/action film that doesn’t get enough praise imo.
I think the chase between Batman and Penguin in the new Batman movie is great, that whole movie perfectly embodies the mood and theme of Gotham
Ronin will always be number one for me. It's just inredible in so many ways, and zero CGI.
Agreed! And the director has previous form :)
How to write a car chase scene:
- Realistic environment
Set it in an environment that the audience is familiar with, to create a contrast between the mundane and the extreme danger of the scene.
- Realistic physics
People know cars. A car chase has to make physical sense. Use the camera and sound design to communicate speed, wind, inertia etc.
- High tension, not necessarily stakes
You don't need to have your protagonist racing to stop a dragon at all times. Often, lower stakes are more gripping for the audience, since they are more relatable. They could imagine themselves in that situation.
- Clear roles
A car chase scene needs to establish before it even starts who the good, bad and unrelated guys are, who's chasing who and who is trying to accomplish what.
Roles can for example be very well communicated via vehicle design. An imposing, aggressive or non-personal looking vehicle is going to instinctively make the audience not like it.
- Decisions
The outcome of a chase is decided by split-second decisions of those involved.
Don't have something as random as a construction site end your chase, have a bad decision in how to avoid the construction site end it.
- Unrelated people are still people
Especially when characters are chasing each other over public roads, remember that the other cars aren't props. The people driving them are probably going to be taken aback by the action and react to it.
For example, a villain smashing through civilian cars because they don't care is also a good way to showcase their role.
- Don't be afraid to get crazy
Real car chases aren't all that interesting.
Depending on the tone of your work, you have to consider how to make such a scene dramatic and dynamic. Don't compromise on the realism, even with insane stunts.
I remember reading a Top Gear article on shooting the Spectre car chase back when the movie came out (and was absolutely everywhere). It was described as a really huge undertaking. Multiple streets closed in Rome, an Aston Martin prototype and a Jaguar movie double both made SPECIFICALLY FOR THE MOVIE (talk about an investment), the film crew describing the chase as "the most dramatic couple of minutes in car chases' history"... all for a malfunctioning car machine gun, bad slapstick moment with the old opera-loving man and ultimately crashing the car into the water after only a few minutes of screen time. A CAR MADE SOLELY FOR THE MOVIE THAT DISAPPEARS AFTER A COUPLE MINUTES. Yeah, the studio really knew how to spend the money.
PAHAHAHAHA! Tax write off maybe? Thanks for the awesome insight here :) stick around!
@@MarcusFlemmings Sure thing!
There’s something about the sound of a revving car engine that just makes the whole experience visceral. One recent one I can think of is the chase from The Batman. That was so epic. Not much of a chase compared to other sequences from other films but the feeling a regular looking car that’s pimped up just enough to make it believable and unbelievable sound design just made the whole scene feel so awesome and visceral.
Not a movie, but the bike chase in the tv show Barry (season 3) is one of the most intense chase scenes I've seen lately. The sound design is insane. If you haven't seen it, watch it on TH-cam, you won't regret it.
I've seen it :) it's really really good! Would have maybe added if it was in a film :) there's a great fight scene too in season 1!
@@MarcusFlemmingsBarry is one of my favorite shows, I'm so glad to see you watched it. Oh, I also watched your video on the avalanche scene in Force Majeure, it was really good. Fun fact : the movie is titled "Snow Therapy" in French, my native language. I find it really funny that we're using an English title, while English speakers are using a French title for the movie.
@Kanashimimo that film has so many titles! 😂
Baby Driver introductory scene was sublime
Car Chase in City is my favorite to see such as, New York City, Los Angeles, Rome and Paris and Tokyo
The French Connection chase inspired The Puerto Rican Connection mission in GTA 4, where Niko tracks a subway to kill a target once they reach their destination in a very similar fashion to the movie
I hated F8...especially the submarine chase scene
1) That submarine (due to the placement of its sloped con tower) appears to be a Schuka (Akula) class attack submarine, not a ballistic missile sub. While it might carry nuclear tipped torpedoes, or a nuclear cruise missile, it can't carry an ICBM
2) That submarine dove with hatches open, it would sink
3) That sub has a max deepwater speed of around 50mph, and max surface speed of around 20. In ice, it would be moving 10, at best, meaning this ice-skating chase is moving slower than most people can run.