Analysis Corner: Borg vs McEnroe 1980

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  • Craig O'Shannessy looks back at Bjorn Borg's Gentleman's Singles Final against John McEnroe in 1980.

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  • @saki5073
    @saki5073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Borg's resilience and absolute resolute mental strength in the 5th set of the 1980 final was so amazing!

  • @tenniscollector
    @tenniscollector 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    happy 60th Birthday to Bjorn Borg, turned 60 on 6 june. LONG LIVE THE KING.

    • @richfaulkner1527
      @richfaulkner1527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is the King, changed the game, money, winning, saying goodbye

  • @mrbobevans
    @mrbobevans 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Mats and another guy were sitting in their van. I came up to their van and got his autograph. He was so nice. He is my favorite tennis player.

    • @jamesb2871
      @jamesb2871 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mats had the BEST YEAR NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT.......won all three slams.........had a 2 set lead in Wimbledon Semi's too........but lost to the eventual champion .....that year was 3rd best to Rogers-Novaks best year.......and NOBODY will have a year like McEnroe 84,,,,,not even close....

    • @beorlingo
      @beorlingo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jamesb2871 Mats was super in 1988. In the Paris final he was peaking. I think in that match he was aggressive in a way seen neither prior nor afterwards. Totally crushed Leconte, great game.

    • @michaelbarlow6610
      @michaelbarlow6610 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ James B. Mats Wilander never ever got to a Wimbledon singles semifinal. He got to 3 consecutive quarterfinals at Wimbledon, but never to the semifinals there.

  • @fundhund62
    @fundhund62 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Very interesting! I always thought that Borg´s movement was similar to Steffi Graf´s as well, and I definitely agree with Mats at 8:27 that McEnroe was "maybe the most talented we have ever had, in terms of feel in the hand", and also that "Federer, with the balance and the speed of arm, is more talented overall". Pretty much sums it up ;)

    • @connorduke4619
      @connorduke4619 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Laver also had great touch but a stronger wrist like a squash player and even slightly quicker reflexes. Still probaby the best player inside the service square of all time.

    • @jasoncowell5133
      @jasoncowell5133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      McEnroe 1984 is unrivalled. Best tennis ever produced consistently. The heights of that year of sheer unbelievable tennis will never be matched in my opinion. The mist exciting tennis I have ever seen also.

    • @johnholmes912
      @johnholmes912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      laver was even better

    • @richfaulkner1527
      @richfaulkner1527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always called her the female Borg!!!!

  • @robocop5935
    @robocop5935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The most majestic legendary rivalry in tennis history. McEnroe v borg..

    • @seveglider8406
      @seveglider8406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe Borg and McEnroe played 14 times with each player winning 7 times. McEnroe was very lucky they never played each other on clay.

  • @hellovanite
    @hellovanite 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    McEnroe had great feel on the volley because he played with a soft wrist and he had quite loose strings.. Something like 49 compared to Borgs strings at 80lbs

    • @sebbytennis4298
      @sebbytennis4298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hellovanite he sometimes played with a racket strung as loose as 40lbs and with one grip only for every shot. The most unique player of all time

  • @tenniscollector
    @tenniscollector 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hey this is a great program. We don't get here in Australia. Thanks for posting.
    35 years ago man. Where does the time go? That 1980 final, not only is the greatest ever final at SW19, but is the BENCHMARK. We may never see this happen again.

    • @telmolicious
      @telmolicious 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most ppl today would go with the 2008 final.

    • @markmauk8231
      @markmauk8231 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@telmolicious And both answers would be the right choice. Also 2009 was unbelievably good, it is just never mentioned because Roddick doesnt have the Name of Federer, Nadal, McEnroe and Borg.

  • @mrbobevans
    @mrbobevans 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Borg's physique is identical to Jeremy Wariner who was a world record track holder and olympic champion in the 400 meters.

  • @jeffcoleman6444
    @jeffcoleman6444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mats and Craig two of my favorite people !

  • @alexanderwingeskog758
    @alexanderwingeskog758 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well... Mats Wilander was also a ice man...

  • @leverwork1
    @leverwork1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Borg is the Silver fox , faster than a cat, walks away

  • @dorakid2008
    @dorakid2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mentioned in the New England Journal of Medicine as a "physiological phenomenon" with a rest pause of 35 in his playing days.

  • @oskarvikstrom229
    @oskarvikstrom229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mats Wilander is a really nice guy!

  • @pernormann4869
    @pernormann4869 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hard work always beats talent, but if talent works hard...

  • @amycrunch3812
    @amycrunch3812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No one mentions Björn Borg's footwork? Really?

    • @Alessio669
      @Alessio669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I love how it moved into the court... delicate light elegant... the best of all the times

  • @jeffrey3498
    @jeffrey3498 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mac’s strings were so loose he had to take off rather than add.

  • @zeddeka
    @zeddeka ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting that they didn't mention what most commentators do about that final set. Borg started to extend the points, tiring McEnroe out.

  • @thormichaelpleym4975
    @thormichaelpleym4975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, from my swedish point of view Borg was not an animal. He was The Animal! 🙂
    / Micke P

  • @Fontsman
    @Fontsman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Annabel Croft is hot!

  • @bobmalack481
    @bobmalack481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Borg..definately the fittest athelete in Tennis in his era, with an unbeilavably heart pulse rate of 35. Slept 10 hours a night in conjuction with that 'gift' of athletisium.

  • @theoriginalthinker9199
    @theoriginalthinker9199 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    McEnroe got so close to the net because of the motion of his serve. Later, Pete Sampras developed a similar rocking motion.

    • @markmauk8231
      @markmauk8231 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing in Petes serve is similar to Johns serve

    • @michaelbarlow6610
      @michaelbarlow6610 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ Theoriginal Thinker. It was primarily McEnroe's strong legs and fast footwork that propelled him forward so quickly to get as close to the net as he did in his tennis career, not just the fact that he would toss the ball forward on his service motion to get his momentum moving into the court on his serve. Even Sampras at his peak didn't get as tightly close to the net as frequently as McEnroe. McEnroe had the uncanny ability to consistently get inside the service box for his first volley better than any serve-and-volley player in the Open era in tennis.

    • @theoriginalthinker9199
      @theoriginalthinker9199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelbarlow6610 All tennis players of McEnroe's caliber have strong legs and fast feet. And Pete was a better player than McEnroe. No doubt about it.

    • @michaelbarlow6610
      @michaelbarlow6610 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @ Theoriginal thinker. Sampras had a better, more powerful forehand than McEnroe and a more powerful serve with freakishly phenomenal accuracy on serve, but McEnroe had a greater diversity of shots in his repertoire than Sampras ( i.e., the drop shot, drop volley, stop volley, the underspin offensive lob, the soft backhand drive down the middle of the court low over the net when the opposing player- such as Connors -is at the net to force the net player to hit up on the volley and to generate all the pace on the volley, and the topspin forehand lob) and McEnroe had a greater diversity of service placement in his game than Sampras. McEnroe utilized the "into the body serve" otherwise known as the "jammer" serve which Sampras completely lacked. Sampras lacked McEnroe's phenomenal touch at the net and feel for the tennis ball. Although many tennis pros at or near the top of men's tennis have strong legs and excellent foot speed around the court, no serve-and-volley player has gotten as close to the net for a first volley as consistently as McEnroe did--not Sampras, Edberg, Becker, Stich. Perhaps Laver and Kramer may have been nearly as adept at getting inside the service box consistently for the first volley as McEnroe but that is questionnable. Despite what many fans think, McEnroe at his absolute peak in 1984 played the highest level of tennis seen in the graphite era. Sampras' level at his best from 1993--1996/1997 was a close second in my opinion. Federer would be third behind Sampras in the level of tennis achieved at his absolute peak. It is unfortunate that McEnroe and Sampras' careers were not precisely concurrent so that tennis fans could have seen both of them at the absolute peak of their prime play against each other. McEnroe has never received the recognition as having possessed one of the greatest overheads in the history of tennis.

  • @AmurTiger-vm5dy
    @AmurTiger-vm5dy ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that mc jesus lost this match because before played the double final and he was tired

  • @johnholmes912
    @johnholmes912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it would be a better game if we went back to wooden rackets and fast courts
    laver had much more talent than mac

  • @johpi3621
    @johpi3621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mats

  • @seteetlemonde7656
    @seteetlemonde7656 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MCENROE THE GOAT

  • @sama4978
    @sama4978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mcenroe est bien meilleur que Federer et de loin!