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I'm curious why this channel uses the Air Crash Investigation name. But it's not the Air Crash Investigation that's also called Mayday: Air Disaster in some places. Are you just using the name?
Captain went head to head with the flight computer and took everything manually to save his passengers, man I don't care if anyone calls him "shit magnet" I'll call him a legendary pilot. Salute to him.
This is why airline pilots need extensive manual stick and rudder practice. If the captain wasn't so proficient the outcome could have been disastrous. Kudos to the captain and the first officer also for staying cool and handling this like the experts they obviously are!
Due to the absence of autotrim, the flight crew believed they were operating in Direct Law. However, the aircraft remained in Alternate Law throughout the incident. It’s concerning that trained pilots cannot manually select Direct Law. This design implies that only the computer can determine when it is malfunctioning, potentially rejecting pilot inputs unless it deems the system has degraded sufficiently to enter Direct Law.
Basically the plane went to war on itself it was as though it had biggest virus in world that no injection would cure poor csotain it all seemed yo hsppen to him. People were too badly injured to even thing about lanfing on a remote desert island thed beed loads of ambulance ut must have been horondous for everyone no medical help but at least they landed safely to get help they needed no deaths. It's a shame he felt need to retire it wasent his fault or snuones fault I hope media and passengers didn't have a go at him OK thed maybe have life changing injures but it wasrnt the crew fault I guess he felt bad
If a pilot got the name "shit magnet" and still had no serious incident under his belt, it only says he's that good that shit doesn't even touch him. Kinda of an amazing nickname.
i was one of the passengers on board this and we were all really lucky to be alive that day I owe my life to captain Kevin Sullivan and the crew of Flight 72 aswell as the lives of my family and the lives of every other passenger on board after that experience I had PTSD which has been mostly cured but still get very minor episodes every now and again, I also developed a fear of flying for a few years but eventually overcame it, I still get moments of terror during turbulence however it will likely forever go down as the most terrifying moment in my life
The pilot made the right decisions. Disengaging all flught aids and going to standby manual controls. Making a pan call, aviating, navigating, and communicating until a precaution landing/emergency landing. Well done!
@@DrummerJacob Training is one thing. Reality is another. MCAS resulted in lost planes where the pilot again and again and again turned on the autopilot instead of disengaging the automatic trim. So this world has lots of pilots living firmly in their comfort zone.
@@DrummerJacobthey don't proberly tell you about your plane literally going crazy on you if your car does it you pull up if a train foes it they don't leave next station a boat can drop anchor. But a plane
Kevin Sullivan saved over 300 people. Meanwhile, I watched an Air France first officer pulling the stick up during an aerodynamic stall at cruising altitude while the 2nd officer pushed down. By the time the Captain came back into the cockpit, he asked what happened and the first officer said "I don't know, we are losing altitude and I'm pulling up the entire time".
Captain Sullivan you did not deserve the awful nickname of "sh*t magnet" you and your crew saved many lives. I cannot even begin to imagine the stress that flight took out of all the crew and passengers. Fair play sir, you deserve to retire and pat yorself on the back for being a hero.
That's a term of endearment nickname in Australia, the worse nickname possible usually means the highest of respect - "That guys a c***" would mean he's the nicest guy you'll meet 😁
As an Australian; I assure you the nickname is not an insult, we just have an unconventional sense of humour. Generally, the more distinguished a person is the more mocking the nickname becomes.
14:19 That "A 250 million dollars aircraft reduced to the simplicity of a Cessna." line followed by a piano gave me a goosebump. Also love the "Shit Magnet" are said with full confidence, something i miss from a TH-cam video.
As a "shit magnet" myself, all I can say is we are the ones who find, fight and work around other people's shitty design/work. And this man, this man is a true hero in the original meaning of the word. He ability and instincts saved lives. Period. Deserves a medal for airmanship.
Crazy how autopilot controls were off, but the aircraft still was able to override the captain's inputs, and even initiated a very unsafe maneuver to begin with.
That is the entire problem with the airbus automation being designed to prevent pilots from accidentally or deliberately crashing an aircraft. It is a catch 22 situation. Up to now, the automation has never directly led to a crash, but we have no idea whether it has actually prevented an accident.
I may be fully wrong on this and anyone is open to correcting me on this, but to my knowledge this happened because the FCPC's commands to pitch down were of the same priority as the captain's in the computer's eyes. So computer just saw two conflicting commands of the same authority at the same time and did nothing in response, but since the FCPC already gave it's command first, the captain only sent his in once they were already falling. It likely worked after several attempts because after the computer didn't respond, both sources had to send their commands in again, giving the pilot's inputs a fairer chance. This is sadly the reality for fly by wire systems, all physical inputs get turned into code for a computer to interpret.
@@wilsjane The combination of dual input + stall warning has led to several total losses. One pilot becomes confused, the plane protects itself from a pilot-induced stall, then the other pilot can't easily take over due to the 40 second delay needed for pressing the override button - if they even know dual input is happening. Sometimes they don't due to the chaos and lack of proper notice (dunno if this was ever rectified). The "protection" results in the plane losing airspeed until it's effectively at zero. Therefore, the plane can no longer fly even if a competent pilot takes over. They'd have to go straight down to gather airspeed and take ridiculous g-forces to pull out. Afaik noone has managed.
@@ArcticFFox the computers wers confused and yelled heck I'm gonna do what I think is right, I hope they send the aeroplane to the plane graveyard afterwards I truly think it would be fated otherwise there's things in this life you can't explsin they couldn't use plane for ever eith garlic in plane hung up😮
Ross Hales is actually my cousin, my family were all talking about this when it happened. Despite only being junior he was very competent with his brother being in the airforce and my uncle (his father) owning a scenic flight company in Busselton near Perth. He was flying planes before he was driving a car. Very daunting having the Indian Ocean coming at you and no control.
@@danielkaufmann15flight channel is great but it also doesn’t have narration. You have the read. This is a different style of channel and both can exist / explode. The story telling is really good here and the recreation of the cockpits is great. Also the 3D representations of issues and how parts function. They really do a good all around job.
@@jayrodathome yes, you're right. But nobody explained us about the reason the Quantsas plane had this malfunction. That is the most important thing. 😔
They can call that captain by whatever name they like - but that is a damn good pilot. Good job on the video. Really well written and enunciated narrative.
@@DrummerJacob hell, if there's anyone you want in the cockpit if something is going wrong, its the guy who's had to deal with weird things breaking so much his nickname refers to it....
This channel shares the same name of my favorite show. I was disappointed at first when Johnathan Aris wasn’t narrating, but this guy still manages to produce quality content. As good as the real show!
Amazing story, these are true pilots that stayed calm in a wild situation. Imagine if this crew had been the "PULL DOWN" crew or the France "I'm going to pull on my stick because I'm terrified" crew.
That's because they never actually found out why it mislabeled altitude with angle of attack. "Although a definitive conclusion could not be reached, sufficient information from multiple sources enabled the conclusion that most of the potential triggers were very unlikely to have been involved. A much more likely scenario was that a marginal hardware weakness of some form made the units susceptible to the effects of some type of environmental factor, which triggered the failure mode" or in short "we don't know, but it was probably a hardware problem." Digital data is all about voltage. If one piece of device was working 99.9% of the time but it failed in relaying a single byte of data, it could cause this. My personal theory is a soldering problem like in Indonesia AirAsia Flight 8501, except in Quantas case the hypothetical soldering fault affected the ADIRU (which tells the computer how to fly the plane) and in AirAsia the confirmed soldering problem affected the RTLU (which keeps the pilots from destroying their plane's rudder the way American Airlines Flight 587 ended up). Frustratingly, my theory is possible but not confirmed. If it was a soldering problem, the solution to prevent future malfunctions is just to replace the defective part, but there is no conclusion here. The only way a pilot can prevent a repeat is to set the Airbus mode to "alternate law" (normal law the plane will not allow inputs that would stall a plane, alternate law the plane does what you tell it to do).
The one thing that always bugged me was why everything went wrong if only 1 of the 3 air data units failed since that's kind of the point of having 3. So if 1 fails, you are still good. Turns out after reading the actual accident report, there was an actual computer bug that eventually caused an Air Worthiness Directive to be issued 1 year later. How it worked was the computer normally compared the values of the 3 units, if they were all relatively accurate, they were averaged and used. If one was off, it would use the previous good value for 1.2 seconds, monitor the faulty unit for 1 second and determine whether or not to turn it off permanently if it stayed broken. After 1.2 seconds, if it was not broken, the values would be averaged again and used. The key bug is there is no check if the units were accurate for this averaging unlike the rest of the time. So if one of the units failed, then fixed itself within 1 second, then failed against exactly 1.2 seconds after it first failed, the airplane's computer blindly trusted the incorrect value, and would only trust that incorrect value for the next 1.2 seconds. Enough to make the airplane think it needs to make a 1.2 second long emergency descent. Of course if the failed air data unit then did the same thing and failed 1.2 seconds later again, you'll keep getting wrong data again and again with no checks, completely ignoring the other 2 data units that are screaming that the first one is wrong.
Your videos are incredibly high quality and well narrated! One suggestion I would have is at the start you mention there will be over 100 injuries including spinal injuries, and then immediately follow with "will they succeed in avoiding a crash into the Indian Ocean". I really enjoy the idea of not knowing what happens from the start and going through the crisis with the pilots, but when you announce at the start the types of injuries, it already tells the story before you tell it to some degree. Part of the joy is being along for the ride. But just some feedback, and again, your channel and videos are awesome to watch!
I thought the exact same thing. I thought to myself “oh so they survived that’s good” but it lessened the watching experience a bit. Don’t get me wrong I still enjoyed the video very much.
@@felipecorrea7876 I did not mean it that way, my friend. I wanted to show that the details presented and simplified were good from a scientific point of view Maybe words failed me because it is not my first language, sorry for that :)
They were extremely fortunate IMO that this happened during day time with full visibility. Unlike the aeroperu flight in 1996. Imagine if he got the warnings during night. One wing decision and it could spell the end.
@@saffy4352well, it doesn't surprise me, since so many crashes were because of pilot unable to..... Fly. Like air France crash in the sea, or air airasia
This has happened numerous times in the area and is related to the giant nucleur launch antenna based at the military base they were flying over in Exmouth. Has also happened on other flights in the same area.
Qantas-1920 I believe they were founded-- have had not a single hull loss (loss of an airplane) in their more than 100 year history. Theyve been blessed with great pilots over all those years. The A380 (QF32) landing in Singapore the following year was another act of absolute heroism from a Qantas crew. My hat comes off to this crew
I would like to show the creators and crew of this channel how much I appreciate this amazing and free content like this. Top tier 👍 Especially the amount of detail of mechanical and elektrical faults is the cherry on the cake. Please continue 👏.
I’ve just completed watching all of your videos. As a former fan of the Smithsonian Channel’s Air Disasters, I’ve got to say that, hands down, your content is better presented. Mesmerizing and captivating without relying on drama is a hell of a feat. I’m really looking forward to seeing this channel grow!
This channel is great. Really a perfect level of factual information and drama. Also I appreciate that this channel's videos don't repeat everything needlessly just to lengthen the videos lol
Imo this is just as overdramatized as any other channels video about this incident. This is how it actually looked with data straight from the black box watch?v=3dpG7_2izXs Note: I'm not saying this to somehow play down all the injuries this incident caused, this obviously was a very quick and unexpected pitch down which left many people injured for the rest of their lives.
The 3 Golden Rules: 1. Pick a great airline. 2. Fly over land as much as possible. 3. Break up your trip. Singapore to Australia is the safest route you can take, and yet, they could have been doomed. When it's your time it's just your time. But you WILL NOT get a safer route than that one. Also from Singapore to London. Almost 100% over land. Aside a few small sections of water.
Omg, just found this channel and I’m hooked. I love all the technical content! Absolutely fascinating (and sometimes tragic of course…. but you show respect for lost lives) . Keep up the excellent content ❤
As flight disaster documentary watchers I’m sure you’re all aware of the Lion Air and Ethiopia Airlines flights that crashed as a result of Boeing’s negligence? This malfunction is eerily similar to what the 737 MAX was _designed_ to do. Detect a stall? Nose down. The AoA sensor had been improperly calibrated and sent bad information to MCAS (the killer software) that told the plane to dive, and the pilots in both flights couldn’t resolve the issue in time. Perhaps even more tragically, the Ethiopian Airlines pilots were able to disable MCAS but the dive was past the point where it could be reversed. RIP to the 346 lives on those two planes, and FUCK BOEING
These videos are a good way to save money. Here is how: I watch videos -> I get scared -> I don't fly -> I save money that would have paid the flight and I also save money that would have paid hotel
Sooo ? What was the cause ? Which plug fell out ? Which line of code was corrupted ? This fascinating video is only part 1. As a retired accident investigator this is where the real story starts. How does Joe Public reassure itself that these aircraft are now safer ?
if i remember correctly, the worrying thing is they legitimately couldn't work out what made the computer start crapping its pants- the thing that caused the malfunction, i mean- they tracked down a bug in the code for how the flight control system cross-checked the 3 unit's for sanity that lead to the system completely ignoring 2 of the computers screaming that the other had gone off into la-la land, but afaik they never were able to zero in on what in the hardware actually failed, and im guessing they put it under a bloody microscope- could have even been something like memory registers getting flipped by cosmic rays- there's actual precident for that making computers freak out before- there was a local election in... i think norway, sweden? that had to re-tally the votes after the computer doing it suddenly dropped an extra zero or two into the numbers...
The Graphics are just stunningly great, what a definition! What is a bit funny is the apppearance of a German Air Rescue helicopter run by the ADAC ( Ident D - HTPE) at the end of the video.
Really nice video, but I miss an explanation of what happened. I know it because I've studied this case from several angles, and it's quite amazing that one of the explanations is that a cosmic ray changed a bit in the computer and sent wrong information, but it would be nice for the next one to deepen in the actual investigation. In any case, thank you!
@@H0ttabych Actually, they don't know what caused the problem, but the effect was that the ADIRU CPU relabelled certain data, and instead of being the altitude, the module thought it was the angle of attack. And for that to happen, only one bit had to change, hence the theory of the cosmic ray. So maybe the bit change wasn't on the memory, maybe it was in one of the registers of the CPU, or maybe the cause wasn't a cosmic ray, as I said, because it's only one of the theories, as I commented on my message. But in any case, as a computer engineer, I'm still baffled how they thought it was a good idea to have two different labels (altitude and angle of attack) separated by a distance of 1! That's a no-no when designing robust systems, but I guess those were other times. You can find more information on this incident and the cosmic rays theory in the video titled "The Universe is Hostile to Computers" by veritasium on TH-cam, or the episode of Air Crash Investigation dedicated to this incident.
Just discovered this channel and can’t stop. Incredible detail, narration, and insights. Just so we’ll done. And now I have a new fear of malfunctioning airplane computer systems preventing pilots from taking manual control of the aircraft 🙃
I drove a semi for several years. Had no problems until it all was computerized. The GPS was always giving me wrong turns and roads not for semis. The funniest thing was when I made a turn there were several semis sitting on the side of the road. I too pulled over got out and walked up to the guy in front of me. It seems all the GPS systems went down and they had no idea how to get back to the interstate. Since I used maps, pens,paper and index cards I knew how to get to the interstate. Needless to say I had a convoy behind me. Who needs GPS. My system saved me a lot of hassles (and tickets)
I I have never had any interest or anything in airplanes more than flying somewhere and I am hooked on this channel lol I bet I could fly a plane now lol
s it not WONDERFL, when computs run your life and YOU have no longer any control ???? so lucky that these mere HUMANS had the knowlege, cool and sense to land this disaster safely !!!! hats off to them !!!!
Thrilling video, really well made. However a bit of an explanation of what caused the situation in the first place and analysis of the final report would have been interesting and could provide a bit of closure for the viewers.
I believe the investigation report found that there was no way for the crew to assess the situation with the ongoing flashing of messages and that by the time they figured out the computer malfunction, they would have met with the ocean. There was a total of 308 individual messages that they were going through individually during the flight. A change was made on the plane model to have major warnings and faults permanently displayed separately instead of the flashing through all faults. QANTAS has been named one of the safest air travel companies since, despite recent financial woes.
ADIRU corruption the CPU had erroneously relabelled the altitude data word which triggered QANTAS's automated safety protocols to act on top of each other and command a large nose down. They could not find the reason behind the corruption.
On an airbus, is it harder to revert to manual flight compared to say boeing? In general? I mean is the computer always fighting the pilot or just in this instance? I'm more familiar with boeing. Some of them are very analog and the pilot can override the computer when necessary
@supers0nic77 I believe that when investing previous accidents they had noticed that a previous flight had experienced the same issue. The flight crew disabled the computer and had no further issues during flight.
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I'm curious why this channel uses the Air Crash Investigation name. But it's not the Air Crash Investigation that's also called Mayday: Air Disaster in some places.
Are you just using the name?
Can you try do flight 571 there isn’t much to talk about involving the actual crash but I feel you could definitely pull it off somehow
We only watch. We don’t read
you skipped the analysis of plane's faulty sensors and etiology of the nose dives, this is like a 23 minute tiktok.... I am not happy.
Such a wonderfull content🎉
Captain went head to head with the flight computer and took everything manually to save his passengers, man I don't care if anyone calls him "shit magnet" I'll call him a legendary pilot. Salute to him.
But he's a "shit magnet" because all that trouble happened to HIM😊
Outstanding skills and airmanship by the way!
Ikr I was like damn better to be a shit magnet than a dead man
This is why airline pilots need extensive manual stick and rudder practice. If the captain wasn't so proficient the outcome could have been disastrous. Kudos to the captain and the first officer also for staying cool and handling this like the experts they obviously are!
Due to the absence of autotrim, the flight crew believed they were operating in Direct Law. However, the aircraft remained in Alternate Law throughout the incident.
It’s concerning that trained pilots cannot manually select Direct Law. This design implies that only the computer can determine when it is malfunctioning, potentially rejecting pilot inputs unless it deems the system has degraded sufficiently to enter Direct Law.
Basically the plane went to war on itself it was as though it had biggest virus in world that no injection would cure poor csotain it all seemed yo hsppen to him.
People were too badly injured to even thing about lanfing on a remote desert island thed beed loads of ambulance ut must have been horondous for everyone no medical help but at least they landed safely to get help they needed no deaths.
It's a shame he felt need to retire it wasent his fault or snuones fault I hope media and passengers didn't have a go at him OK thed maybe have life changing injures but it wasrnt the crew fault I guess he felt bad
I love how this includes the detail of them watching 2 and a half men.
And the serious tone he announced it with pure gold :D
The kind of guy who would watch that show is the same kind of guy that would throw away his excellent career after getting staftled at work one day.
Hhahhaha
@@thesuperskullthe way he said it so serious, I assumed there were two men and a decapitated/half man that they were observing somewhere
😃😂
If a pilot got the name "shit magnet" and still had no serious incident under his belt, it only says he's that good that shit doesn't even touch him. Kinda of an amazing nickname.
i was one of the passengers on board this and we were all really lucky to be alive that day
I owe my life to captain Kevin Sullivan and the crew of Flight 72 aswell as the lives of my family and the lives of every other passenger on board
after that experience I had PTSD which has been mostly cured but still get very minor episodes every now and again, I also developed a fear of flying for a few years but eventually overcame it, I still get moments of terror during turbulence however
it will likely forever go down as the most terrifying moment in my life
So glad you’re still with us! Thank you for sharing
I can only imagine the fear😢❤
wow bruh. you didnt learn during that flight? HUMANS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE SKY! get a clue. catch a hint. muh gawd man!
The pilot made the right decisions. Disengaging all flught aids and going to standby manual controls. Making a pan call, aviating, navigating, and communicating until a precaution landing/emergency landing. Well done!
It's standard practice of becoming a pilot! You are trained to do those things
@@DrummerJacob Training is one thing. Reality is another. MCAS resulted in lost planes where the pilot again and again and again turned on the autopilot instead of disengaging the automatic trim.
So this world has lots of pilots living firmly in their comfort zone.
@@DrummerJacobthey don't proberly tell you about your plane literally going crazy on you if your car does it you pull up if a train foes it they don't leave next station a boat can drop anchor. But a plane
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Kevin Sullivan saved over 300 people. Meanwhile, I watched an Air France first officer pulling the stick up during an aerodynamic stall at cruising altitude while the 2nd officer pushed down. By the time the Captain came back into the cockpit, he asked what happened and the first officer said "I don't know, we are losing altitude and I'm pulling up the entire time".
And how do you know any of that actually happened in that flight?
@@MrTVx99 based on the investigation of the flight.
Bruhh what a loser
Yes that Air France pilot was a sh*t head
@@MrTVx99 and the black box
Captain Sullivan you did not deserve the awful nickname of "sh*t magnet" you and your crew saved many lives. I cannot even begin to imagine the stress that flight took out of all the crew and passengers. Fair play sir, you deserve to retire and pat yorself on the back for being a hero.
That's a term of endearment nickname in Australia, the worse nickname possible usually means the highest of respect - "That guys a c***" would mean he's the nicest guy you'll meet 😁
@@brendanedwards2277 Probably the same over here in England mate. I've heard many worse nicknames in my job :)
Pretty sure its just a playful/humorous nickname between work colleagues regarding his bad luck. Its says so in the video and on his biography.
As an Australian; I assure you the nickname is not an insult, we just have an unconventional sense of humour. Generally, the more distinguished a person is the more mocking the nickname becomes.
Probably made him more vigilant and able to stay calm in an emergency like this. What a badass.
14:19 That "A 250 million dollars aircraft reduced to the simplicity of a Cessna." line followed by a piano gave me a goosebump.
Also love the "Shit Magnet" are said with full confidence, something i miss from a TH-cam video.
From the description, it was much worse, because a Cessna will obey the inputs.
I liked the irony of that line as well - even a Cessna has an autopilot.
As a "shit magnet" myself, all I can say is we are the ones who find, fight and work around other people's shitty design/work. And this man, this man is a true hero in the original meaning of the word. He ability and instincts saved lives. Period. Deserves a medal for airmanship.
15:50 "Can't leave you guys alone for two minutes." - Said with broken nose, and dozens of seriously injured passengers. *PEAK AUSTRALIAN!* 🤣
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Crazy how autopilot controls were off, but the aircraft still was able to override the captain's inputs, and even initiated a very unsafe maneuver to begin with.
That is the entire problem with the airbus automation being designed to prevent pilots from accidentally or deliberately crashing an aircraft. It is a catch 22 situation.
Up to now, the automation has never directly led to a crash, but we have no idea whether it has actually prevented an accident.
I may be fully wrong on this and anyone is open to correcting me on this, but to my knowledge this happened because the FCPC's commands to pitch down were of the same priority as the captain's in the computer's eyes. So computer just saw two conflicting commands of the same authority at the same time and did nothing in response, but since the FCPC already gave it's command first, the captain only sent his in once they were already falling. It likely worked after several attempts because after the computer didn't respond, both sources had to send their commands in again, giving the pilot's inputs a fairer chance. This is sadly the reality for fly by wire systems, all physical inputs get turned into code for a computer to interpret.
@@wilsjane The combination of dual input + stall warning has led to several total losses. One pilot becomes confused, the plane protects itself from a pilot-induced stall, then the other pilot can't easily take over due to the 40 second delay needed for pressing the override button - if they even know dual input is happening. Sometimes they don't due to the chaos and lack of proper notice (dunno if this was ever rectified). The "protection" results in the plane losing airspeed until it's effectively at zero. Therefore, the plane can no longer fly even if a competent pilot takes over. They'd have to go straight down to gather airspeed and take ridiculous g-forces to pull out. Afaik noone has managed.
@@ArcticFFox the computers wers confused and yelled heck I'm gonna do what I think is right, I hope they send the aeroplane to the plane graveyard afterwards I truly think it would be fated otherwise there's things in this life you can't explsin they couldn't use plane for ever eith garlic in plane hung up😮
I see Air Crash Investigation video. I watch it. No exceptions
A B C, I see an Air Crash Investigation video. I watch it. No exceptions.
It's easy as
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It’s pretty much the law at this point
@@Aviationaccidents love this comment
Just randomly lost it laughing at this 🤣🤣🤣
I started recently too.
Ross Hales is actually my cousin, my family were all talking about this when it happened. Despite only being junior he was very competent with his brother being in the airforce and my uncle (his father) owning a scenic flight company in Busselton near Perth. He was flying planes before he was driving a car.
Very daunting having the Indian Ocean coming at you and no control.
These well made documentaries of disasters averted by human excellence make a refreshing change from the usual disaster channel content.
This channel still hasn’t blown up yet?
Compared to "The Flight channel", this channel operates on a really low level. No fear of exploding 😊
@@danielkaufmann15flight channel is great but it also doesn’t have narration. You have the read. This is a different style of channel and both can exist / explode. The story telling is really good here and the recreation of the cockpits is great. Also the 3D representations of issues and how parts function. They really do a good all around job.
Only has 6 vid so far, it definitely will, I’m 100% sure of it
@@jayrodathome yes, you're right. But nobody explained us about the reason the Quantsas plane had this malfunction.
That is the most important thing. 😔
@@danielkaufmann15 Thank you for your feedback! Do the animations give an inadequate representation of what happened?
They can call that captain by whatever name they like - but that is a damn good pilot.
Good job on the video. Really well written and enunciated narrative.
I mean, his nickname is only confirmed by these events and his nickname doesn't have anything to do with his ability to fly...
@@DrummerJacob hell, if there's anyone you want in the cockpit if something is going wrong,
its the guy who's had to deal with weird things breaking so much his nickname refers to it....
@@Gantradiesexactly he’s learned from all the shit he was handed.
These kind of videos freak me out, but yet I can’t help but watch them, because they fascinate me as well.
Iam with you 😂
True. The Highlights of these videos Lives Rent Free In Head even in 1 hour Flights ;)
Same. And the algorithm always seems to bring these up a few weeks before a flight. Still I watch 😅
This channel shares the same name of my favorite show. I was disappointed at first when Johnathan Aris wasn’t narrating, but this guy still manages to produce quality content. As good as the real show!
Thanks!
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Amazing story, these are true pilots that stayed calm in a wild situation. Imagine if this crew had been the "PULL DOWN" crew or the France "I'm going to pull on my stick because I'm terrified" crew.
They gave no conclusion as to why the aircraft computer malfunctioned.
www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2008/aair/ao-2008-070
That's because they never actually found out why it mislabeled altitude with angle of attack. "Although a definitive conclusion could not be reached, sufficient information from multiple sources enabled the conclusion that most of the potential triggers were very unlikely to have been involved. A much more likely scenario was that a marginal hardware weakness of some form made the units susceptible to the effects of some type of environmental factor, which triggered the failure mode" or in short "we don't know, but it was probably a hardware problem." Digital data is all about voltage. If one piece of device was working 99.9% of the time but it failed in relaying a single byte of data, it could cause this. My personal theory is a soldering problem like in Indonesia AirAsia Flight 8501, except in Quantas case the hypothetical soldering fault affected the ADIRU (which tells the computer how to fly the plane) and in AirAsia the confirmed soldering problem affected the RTLU (which keeps the pilots from destroying their plane's rudder the way American Airlines Flight 587 ended up). Frustratingly, my theory is possible but not confirmed. If it was a soldering problem, the solution to prevent future malfunctions is just to replace the defective part, but there is no conclusion here. The only way a pilot can prevent a repeat is to set the Airbus mode to "alternate law" (normal law the plane will not allow inputs that would stall a plane, alternate law the plane does what you tell it to do).
@@alex_zetsuloving your explanation and suggestions on preventative measures
Yeah, kinda frustrating. Really wanted to know what turned it so evil
The one thing that always bugged me was why everything went wrong if only 1 of the 3 air data units failed since that's kind of the point of having 3. So if 1 fails, you are still good. Turns out after reading the actual accident report, there was an actual computer bug that eventually caused an Air Worthiness Directive to be issued 1 year later.
How it worked was the computer normally compared the values of the 3 units, if they were all relatively accurate, they were averaged and used. If one was off, it would use the previous good value for 1.2 seconds, monitor the faulty unit for 1 second and determine whether or not to turn it off permanently if it stayed broken. After 1.2 seconds, if it was not broken, the values would be averaged again and used. The key bug is there is no check if the units were accurate for this averaging unlike the rest of the time.
So if one of the units failed, then fixed itself within 1 second, then failed against exactly 1.2 seconds after it first failed, the airplane's computer blindly trusted the incorrect value, and would only trust that incorrect value for the next 1.2 seconds. Enough to make the airplane think it needs to make a 1.2 second long emergency descent. Of course if the failed air data unit then did the same thing and failed 1.2 seconds later again, you'll keep getting wrong data again and again with no checks, completely ignoring the other 2 data units that are screaming that the first one is wrong.
Your videos are incredibly high quality and well narrated! One suggestion I would have is at the start you mention there will be over 100 injuries including spinal injuries, and then immediately follow with "will they succeed in avoiding a crash into the Indian Ocean". I really enjoy the idea of not knowing what happens from the start and going through the crisis with the pilots, but when you announce at the start the types of injuries, it already tells the story before you tell it to some degree. Part of the joy is being along for the ride. But just some feedback, and again, your channel and videos are awesome to watch!
Thanks for your feedback!
I thought the exact same thing. I thought to myself “oh so they survived that’s good” but it lessened the watching experience a bit. Don’t get me wrong I still enjoyed the video very much.
it's not a spoiler lol, everyone knows that Qantas has never had a fatal crash before. Australian airliners are better than the rest of the world.
@@a.a677 oh our bad, forgot the general population aren't gods of knowledge of all flights across history
short sweet and detailed, no repeating stuff like the tv shows, LOVE IT!
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OMG! Finally, a video that didn't end tragically! Im so relieved! I held my breath the whole time! This channel is giving me severe anxiety😩😩
As an aerospace engineer, your content is incredible and enjoyable, keep it up 👏👏
Wow, thank you!
As a useless human being, i also enjoy this content, fun , interesting and well made
@@felipecorrea7876 I did not mean it that way, my friend. I wanted to show that the details presented and simplified were good from a scientific point of view
Maybe words failed me because it is not my first language, sorry for that :)
@@felipecorrea7876don’t say useless brother! Your more than that
are fly by wire systems nowadays fortified in some way that protects computers/systems from the effects of cosmic radiation and/or solar flares?
Seatbelt sign on 10:40 😂😂, as if anyone was gonna stand up again after a scary 200mtr stall. 😂
They were extremely fortunate IMO that this happened during day time with full visibility. Unlike the aeroperu flight in 1996. Imagine if he got the warnings during night. One wing decision and it could spell the end.
Yesterday I i found out about this channel now I can wait for them videos.Good job,really.Keep it up.
Thanks and welcome
same
A truly skilled and professional flight crew. 👏
It's standard practice of becoming a pilot! You are trained to fly manually and visually.
@@saffy4352well, it doesn't surprise me, since so many crashes were because of pilot unable to..... Fly. Like air France crash in the sea, or air airasia
I love how the stall alarm continued after they had landed and were on the ground
This has happened numerous times in the area and is related to the giant nucleur launch antenna based at the military base they were flying over in Exmouth. Has also happened on other flights in the same area.
2:14 came outta nowhere and got me rollin 😂
Man, such a freaking good channel. I'll be happy to have been here from the beginning when thus channel blows and have millions of subscribers!
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I don’t understand why you have so few subs. Your videos are really well made. I just subscribed:)
Just 6 video's online. They will come!
I have to concede that... I am addicted to these videos. Melodious voice, great story telling 👏
Thank you so much 😀
Just found your page and I watched every video. Absolutely superb information, and explanation. Thank you!
Awesome, thank you!
Qantas-1920 I believe they were founded-- have had not a single hull loss (loss of an airplane) in their more than 100 year history. Theyve been blessed with great pilots over all those years. The A380 (QF32) landing in Singapore the following year was another act of absolute heroism from a Qantas crew. My hat comes off to this crew
*Fairly new channel*
*Top-tier production*
Who needs TV when you got this.
Thanks! :)
Anyone that's watched more than his 7 videos....
Next question.
That was intense. Thanks for the video
22:36 people are injured at a flight and they still take them to hospital with a helicopter 😂😂😂 what kind of dark humour is this
This is great. I just finished all their videos and they upload a new one today. Amazing. This channel going to be huge.
This channel is a gem.
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Simply an incredible channel.
I'm hooked!
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Your channel is amazing and I am proud to be one of its first viewers
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I would like to show the creators and crew of this channel how much I appreciate this amazing and free content like this. Top tier 👍
Especially the amount of detail of mechanical and elektrical faults is the cherry on the cake.
Please continue 👏.
Our pleasure! Thanks!
This is the best aviation crash channel by far! Bravo 👏👏👏
You can add subtitles for non native English speakers
TH-cam recommended me one of your videos last night and I've been hooked. Love the content.
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I’ve just completed watching all of your videos. As a former fan of the Smithsonian Channel’s Air Disasters, I’ve got to say that, hands down, your content is better presented. Mesmerizing and captivating without relying on drama is a hell of a feat. I’m really looking forward to seeing this channel grow!
Thanks! :)
I actually burst out laughing at his nickname, that was awesome.. and so well presented 😂
Can a reindeer actually laugh?
Mate I'm still laughing, this is the best lunch break I've had in a while. I think it's a stag lol
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What an amazing explanation to a crazy crazy event. Those pilots are heroes.
They are!
Thank you for not making your videos absurdly long for no reason (unlike another major TH-cam Channel who shall not be named).
You're welcome!
Remarkable cooperation between the pilot and 1st and 2nd officer 👑👑👑🌟
This channel is great. Really a perfect level of factual information and drama.
Also I appreciate that this channel's videos don't repeat everything needlessly just to lengthen the videos lol
Much appreciated!
Imo this is just as overdramatized as any other channels video about this incident. This is how it actually looked with data straight from the black box watch?v=3dpG7_2izXs
Note: I'm not saying this to somehow play down all the injuries this incident caused, this obviously was a very quick and unexpected pitch down which left many people injured for the rest of their lives.
The 3 Golden Rules: 1. Pick a great airline. 2. Fly over land as much as possible. 3. Break up your trip. Singapore to Australia is the safest route you can take, and yet, they could have been doomed. When it's your time it's just your time. But you WILL NOT get a safer route than that one. Also from Singapore to London. Almost 100% over land. Aside a few small sections of water.
Very neet production level, everything just perfect. I felt completely emerged in the story. Well done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I didn't realise that this channel was soo young. I look forward to great storytelling!
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The Shit Magnet part was pretty funny 😂
Got me laughing 😂😂😂
Omg, just found this channel and I’m hooked. I love all the technical content! Absolutely fascinating (and sometimes tragic of course…. but you show respect for lost lives) . Keep up the excellent content ❤
Thank you! :)
Just found your channel, great work! This and "Pilot Debrief" are fantastic channels that I have found now, thanks!
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As flight disaster documentary watchers I’m sure you’re all aware of the Lion Air and Ethiopia Airlines flights that crashed as a result of Boeing’s negligence? This malfunction is eerily similar to what the 737 MAX was _designed_ to do. Detect a stall? Nose down. The AoA sensor had been improperly calibrated and sent bad information to MCAS (the killer software) that told the plane to dive, and the pilots in both flights couldn’t resolve the issue in time. Perhaps even more tragically, the Ethiopian Airlines pilots were able to disable MCAS but the dive was past the point where it could be reversed. RIP to the 346 lives on those two planes, and FUCK BOEING
This is why i ALWAYS keep my seatbelt firmly on at all times.
These videos are a good way to save money. Here is how:
I watch videos -> I get scared -> I don't fly -> I save money that would have paid the flight and I also save money that would have paid hotel
Really enjoy the videos,please keep it up
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This guy desurve 1 mil subs frrr. Ur so professional
Very good quality and narration ..
The Quality of the Production is Superior! I subscribe! Good luck with the Channel and Blue Skies to Everyone! ☺️☺️☺️
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Mr.Sullivan is the best pilot in the world. No doubts, he is my hero and my idol. This man is a gift of God👨✈️🙏
This channel is underrated this equal or more quality to vox media and in more detail keep up the good work
Wow, thank you!
Sooo ? What was the cause ? Which plug fell out ? Which line of code was corrupted ? This fascinating video is only part 1. As a retired accident investigator this is where the real story starts. How does Joe Public reassure itself that these aircraft are now safer ?
I agree. I couldn't believe it ended without explaining what the near-fatal problem turned out to be!
If you’re a retired accident investigator why don’t you go and read the final report?
if i remember correctly, the worrying thing is they legitimately couldn't work out what made the computer start crapping its pants-
the thing that caused the malfunction, i mean- they tracked down a bug in the code for how the flight control system cross-checked the 3 unit's for sanity that lead to the system completely ignoring 2 of the computers screaming that the other had gone off into la-la land,
but afaik they never were able to zero in on what in the hardware actually failed,
and im guessing they put it under a bloody microscope- could have even been something like memory registers getting flipped by cosmic rays-
there's actual precident for that making computers freak out before- there was a local election in... i think norway, sweden?
that had to re-tally the votes after the computer doing it suddenly dropped an extra zero or two into the numbers...
*Drill Sergeant, it is day one of boot camp. What is my nickname?*
Drill Sergeant: 2:16
love the content. Keep it coming
Always happy when I see a new video with this brilliant narrator. Thanks!
My pleasure!
Man versus automation with devastating outcomes. I admire the ex fighter pilots skills that saved all lives.
Loving these videos 😄
Glad you like them!
I very much enjoyed the video up until the end. I was expecting and after event explanation as to what caused the plane to malfunction to begin with.
This channel is just next level. How it's so good is beyond me. Commentator graphics etc 10/10
Wow, thanks!
The Graphics are just stunningly great, what a definition! What is a bit funny is the apppearance of a German Air Rescue helicopter run by the ADAC ( Ident D - HTPE) at the end of the video.
Out of all the aviation channels this is best. Concise, well described, great narrator and doesn’t drag on 👏
Wow, thanks! 💛
Nice explanation 👍
Thanks 🙂
Really nice video, but I miss an explanation of what happened. I know it because I've studied this case from several angles, and it's quite amazing that one of the explanations is that a cosmic ray changed a bit in the computer and sent wrong information, but it would be nice for the next one to deepen in the actual investigation. In any case, thank you!
Thanks for your feedback!
@@H0ttabych Actually, they don't know what caused the problem, but the effect was that the ADIRU CPU relabelled certain data, and instead of being the altitude, the module thought it was the angle of attack. And for that to happen, only one bit had to change, hence the theory of the cosmic ray. So maybe the bit change wasn't on the memory, maybe it was in one of the registers of the CPU, or maybe the cause wasn't a cosmic ray, as I said, because it's only one of the theories, as I commented on my message. But in any case, as a computer engineer, I'm still baffled how they thought it was a good idea to have two different labels (altitude and angle of attack) separated by a distance of 1! That's a no-no when designing robust systems, but I guess those were other times. You can find more information on this incident and the cosmic rays theory in the video titled "The Universe is Hostile to Computers" by veritasium on TH-cam, or the episode of Air Crash Investigation dedicated to this incident.
Geat video! I love the "ADAC Notarzt" helicopter at the end, you probably don't see these often in Australia 😄
Hahaha it flew all the way from Germany to Australia for this video
i'm glad this one had a good ending. good upload
Just discovered this channel and can’t stop. Incredible detail, narration, and insights. Just so we’ll done. And now I have a new fear of malfunctioning airplane computer systems preventing pilots from taking manual control of the aircraft 🙃
I just binge watching this channel and everytime I clicked the video its always A330
Then you didn't watch all the videos haha
Always anxious for another one of your videos! Great job as usual!!
Yay, thank you!
Well done Air Crash Investigation! No Man's Land is the true story of QF72.
I drove a semi for several years. Had no problems until it all was computerized. The GPS was always giving me wrong turns and roads not for semis. The funniest thing was when I made a turn there were several semis sitting on the side of the road. I too pulled over got out and walked up to the guy in front of me. It seems all the GPS systems went down and they had no idea how to get back to the interstate. Since I used maps, pens,paper and index cards I knew how to get to the interstate. Needless to say I had a convoy behind me. Who needs GPS.
My system saved me a lot of hassles (and tickets)
Having gone through and seen lots of SH*t. I remain highly respectful of airmen and surgeons.
You deserve 2 millions subs 🔥
Thanks mate!
Air Crash Investigation ❤.
I dint ever skip it on Nat Geo Wild on the DStv satellite 📡 cable.
Thanks for yiur educative content.
great explanation
Glad you liked it
I I have never had any interest or anything in airplanes more than flying somewhere and I am hooked on this channel lol I bet I could fly a plane now lol
What an excellent channel!
Could you upload more (often)? This is so interesting!!
MSF 2020 must have been a game changer for these kind of videos
s it not WONDERFL, when computs run your life and YOU have no longer any control ???? so lucky that these mere HUMANS had the knowlege, cool and sense to land this disaster safely !!!! hats off to them !!!!
Thrilling video, really well made. However a bit of an explanation of what caused the situation in the first place and analysis of the final report would have been interesting and could provide a bit of closure for the viewers.
So what happened? What did the investigators find?
I believe the investigation report found that there was no way for the crew to assess the situation with the ongoing flashing of messages and that by the time they figured out the computer malfunction, they would have met with the ocean. There was a total of 308 individual messages that they were going through individually during the flight. A change was made on the plane model to have major warnings and faults permanently displayed separately instead of the flashing through all faults.
QANTAS has been named one of the safest air travel companies since, despite recent financial woes.
ADIRU corruption the CPU had erroneously relabelled the altitude data word which triggered QANTAS's automated safety protocols to act on top of each other and command a large nose down. They could not find the reason behind the corruption.
On an airbus, is it harder to revert to manual flight compared to say boeing? In general? I mean is the computer always fighting the pilot or just in this instance? I'm more familiar with boeing. Some of them are very analog and the pilot can override the computer when necessary
@supers0nic77 I believe that when investing previous accidents they had noticed that a previous flight had experienced the same issue. The flight crew disabled the computer and had no further issues during flight.