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@@glebkutepov7924True raid is a school shooting afk grind goody ahh feminist mrs.thunberg bro is not eating doritos hes eating doritoes fish and chips flavour he is NOT cooking
Love how earlier on your channel you said you shouldn’t but it but now you are. Thanks for your work I always look at your vids if I’m thinking about feeding the snail
@@WalvisYT It does - you get slats, you get higher G-loading, and it is appreciably heaver. Observably worse in a ratefight but has much better nose authority at medium to high speeds. Also can pull much better AoA and performs better near stall. It is a completely different plane - the ML/MLA is a MiG-23M with a different engine and radar, the MLD a complete airframe revision IRL and that carries over to WT.
@@henryatkinson1479 You are mistaken; the ML is NOT just a MiG-23M airframe, all 'ML' types have a reworked airframe compared the the M. The ML and MLD are identical in WT in every way except 3 major things: 1. RWR. 2. The 23ML can't carry both a R24R and R24T at the same time. 3. The MLD's leading edge slats extend and retract during flight based on pitch input. Increasing AoA, but also decreasing energy retention.
@@paranparanovic3923 as far as I'm aware, majority of AAA games are still at 60, and not really man, most of the premium planes are slight variations of non premium planes, baldur's gate 3 costs 35 dollars Not worth it unless you have loads of money to spare
just for the performance alone this thing SHOULD NOT face the rest of 11.3 and below, the r24r's are great in the wall of death that happens at treetop tier and vastly surpass 530d and aim7m up close because they have faster initial acceleration. r60m's tend to ignore flares when you enslave them too.
I own the MIG-23ML, and I can say it is my favorite jet especially when I am constantly getting 11.0 games against almost an entire team of F-4Ss who don't know how to play top tier
Bro f14a eat the mig23 for breakfast and with it's 6 aim7f is criminal at 11.7 even if they're not the best they're still one of the best but having 6 of them is crazy
The radar got MTI which is basically Pulse Doppler but only works under 1800 meters altitude. So the radar pretty very good especially when u hug the ground where u can use the MTI (at home pulse doppler) to track ppl through the ground clutter
mig23ml is a purchase i never regretted. IMO best jet in the russian tech tree as of rn with the rest being missile carrier shit boxes with how theyre modelled.
i used to play the mig23ml to grind ussr when it sill had a very good rwr my strategy was to go at about 5500m-7500m on the opposite side of my team going directly on the enemy teamdiving and shooting my r24t at low flying enemies that werent exepecting to get shotdown this soon (because the plane is basically a fucking rocket) i have a 890kill to 590 death ratio while it was my first ever jet and premium so for me the r24t is still in my little heart haha but get that now with con trail visibility buff and the nerfed rwr this isnt a good strategy anymore
Walvis, can you do a review on the av8a (and now since its going offsale after the may sales, a vid like the j35a where it’s “a plane you can’t buy anymore”)?
The MLD could not carry R-77's, it couldn't even carry R-27's, but the MIG-23-98 could carry both, while also having a helmet mounted display and more.
Question: With the announcement of SP 2, do you at all plan on covering it? I originally found your channel through SP, and I would appreciate it if you did
I will. I'm still friends with a bunch of their website moderators and devs, and I've received some important clarification on stuff that is visable in the trailer. Next trailer I'll make a proper discussion video. Right now I am just too buzy with my thesis, sadly.
Dear Walvis, brother, have you seen fly out? This game is funking awesome, it's like simple planes 2, it's more detailed and you can make some awesome stuff in it, and you can make some DCS world quality planes in it, please brother, return to your roots and return to creating awesome planes please brother, it is not too late to regrow your soul
I have 5 games on 10.3 lobbies with Mig-23MLD and 135 on 12.0/12.3 lobbies, I suppose its the same for the premium one. And its not that fun against Mig-29 and especially F-16s and F-15s. If not then game is stupidly rigged. Well, its still is to be honest
I got the f-5c, is the MIG23ML better than the f-5c for grinding? Cuz I might cop it just because after I am done grinding US tech tree I want to grind Russian next. (yes I know, premium thunder, im not looking to spend 8k hours of my life grinding 2 tech trees)
imao it's hard to say which is better. If you are looking for something to grind through the soviet tech tree, then I'd say the 23ML is your best choice.
@@WalvisYTthanks for the advice, hopefully by the time I'm done grinding the US tech tree and have gotten bored of the f-14,15, and 16 it will go on sale.
Is it worth 70 USD? Choose your next words wisely… I’ve heard the snail has teams ready to raid your home and find your wallet… Nice video though, I already have the plane but the video is oddly satisfying to watch nonetheless
@@WalvisYTlets take 530f for a reason. No matter what radar will it be paired with, that is m2k, or mf1, it will never be good, because its pulse seeker, it really applies to any type of pulse sarh's. Or lets say aim7E, it doesnt matter if the missile is mounted on ej kai or ej, the missile will perform very poorly no matter what, and that applies to really, every very early cw seeker sarh's. Ofc im saying all of this, because i understood this quote as "if a missile will have a better radar set, it will perform better, and if a missile will have a worse radar set, it will perform worse" And while it is true to some extent, for example idk aim7f being handicapped by f4j's radar, it is rarely true. Of course i might be mistaken or misunderstood the quote, then im sorry in advance.
Elaborate. This clip is from a game where I was trying to spam the R60M to showcase what it's like. It's not an example of great gameplay; nobody should be spamming missiles like this.
@@WalvisYT I get your point, the thing that made my brain explode was the energy suicide you committed by keeping your wings fully folded back while in a high speed turn. When in a chasing situation like this or even a defensive one at high speed I would recommend to use manual wing sweep in range of 60%-80% to drastically decrease energy bleed. In this scenario at 4:44 it would possibly allow you to close distance faster. Anyways keep making great content and keep improving as a player we all love war thunder.
Short answer: don't buy it, no single vehicle in any game is worth 70$, spend your money wisely folks I'd say if you REALLY wanted to grind the soviet techtree, buy a lower tier premium like the YAK-3, SU-6, or _maybe_ the SU-11
I've 100 GJN to spend on a premium to grind through the USSR tree, and while you make some great points, I personally don't think this plane is worth $70, or even $35 when on sale Reason being that I think it is extremely ugly looking. I'm just gonna buy the Su-11 instead :))
This plane is absurdly OP to me. I main USA, i always face it, even un an uptier, it slams. I hate it with every fiber of my being, and clearly shows Russian bias
The best jet? You mean the one that gets outturned by everything, and the one that's missiles don't fucking work half the time? That jet? I have the MLD and it's nearly unplayable due to everyone simply outclassing you in every aspect in an even slight uptier
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If you are watching this video after the June 2024 update; the MiG-23 flight model got nerfed. By all accounts, the airframe is still amazing, albeit now a bit worse than before.
@@glebkutepov7924True raid is a school shooting afk grind goody ahh feminist mrs.thunberg bro is not eating doritos hes eating doritoes fish and chips flavour he is NOT cooking
pp
No, i don't think i will
'As you can see, The Larger the gap been uploads becomes, the more you can tell I have lost all interest in the game'
True!
i think the only that mkes him upload about this game at this point is just sponsorship
I completely agree, basically no interest in the game anymore.
Honestly kinda sad how warthunder content creators have to force themselves to play this sad game just to get any views
No pixel vehicle deserves 70 bucs.Period!!Buy a better game.
But you can't research the F-15 with the MiG-23ML, which automatically means it can't be the best 😎
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Why buy soviet junk when u can get US perfection 💪🗿
uwu daddy uncle sam
R-27ER would like to know your location.
MiG-23ML > F-15 as is proven by the clip at 4:39
@@md93nen
Not really, US always has better jets irl
Another thing about mig 23 mld is that its wing can substain higher G forces and it wouldnt snap its wing randomly as other mig 23 variants
Love how earlier on your channel you said you shouldn’t but it but now you are. Thanks for your work I always look at your vids if I’m thinking about feeding the snail
Yup, in a year a lot has changed. Back when I made my first 23ML video 11.3 was one BR step lower than top tier (11.7).
Thank you for the kind words.
Damn. I unlocked the Mig23MF a couple days ago. I didn't realize how much better the ML is at only .3 above the BR.
"Subtle differences" meanwhile the MLD has a completely different airframe.
No, no it doesn't.
@@WalvisYT It does - you get slats, you get higher G-loading, and it is appreciably heaver. Observably worse in a ratefight but has much better nose authority at medium to high speeds. Also can pull much better AoA and performs better near stall. It is a completely different plane - the ML/MLA is a MiG-23M with a different engine and radar, the MLD a complete airframe revision IRL and that carries over to WT.
@@henryatkinson1479 You are mistaken; the ML is NOT just a MiG-23M airframe, all 'ML' types have a reworked airframe compared the the M. The ML and MLD are identical in WT in every way except 3 major things:
1. RWR.
2. The 23ML can't carry both a R24R and R24T at the same time.
3. The MLD's leading edge slats extend and retract during flight based on pitch input. Increasing AoA, but also decreasing energy retention.
It has wing slats, that is it. Yes, it is a pretty noticeable change, but it's still the same deal, still a good rate fighter.
@@henryatkinson1479higher wing loading is not a good thing
3:38 just casually dogfighting half the enemy team lol
We won that match, somehow without me dying.
No warthunder plane is worth the price of a full release game+10 bucks
First of all new titles these days do go for 70€, second of all just Wait for a sale and get it for 35€ then Its extremely worth it.
@@paranparanovic3923 as far as I'm aware, majority of AAA games are still at 60, and not really man, most of the premium planes are slight variations of non premium planes, baldur's gate 3 costs 35 dollars
Not worth it unless you have loads of money to spare
@@brandonmoisesblandonflores1483it's worth it if you like the game and don't wanna wait 5 years to get to the su-27.
Nothing is worth even $1 in Worse Torture, with how much this game sucks.
@@paranparanovic3923 Better off buying 2 copies of Nuclear Option... 1 for yourself, and 1 for a friend to join you. :)
Never played ML but from experience with every other MiG 23s always switch your radar to MTI mode since it gives you better chaff resistance
The radar will be more resistant to chaff, but for the missile it makes no difference.
Is there any downside to mti?
Im gonna RAID these Shadows to become a LEGEND
just for the performance alone this thing SHOULD NOT face the rest of 11.3 and below, the r24r's are great in the wall of death that happens at treetop tier and vastly surpass 530d and aim7m up close because they have faster initial acceleration. r60m's tend to ignore flares when you enslave them too.
I sure do love it when WT copy and paste vehcials and call it new
I own the MIG-23ML, and I can say it is my favorite jet especially when I am constantly getting 11.0 games against almost an entire team of F-4Ss who don't know how to play top tier
I love using the 24T because of its absolutely hilarious range and tracking abilities
This aged incredibly well
still top 3
@@spxcxy no its not it got nerfed even further. Radar set is shit now. Flight model is shit now. It's nowhere near top 3. not even top 5
@@fent276 flight model is still elite for br, radar kit is still usable
@@spxcxy useable doesn’t mean top 3. Flight model is dogshit and it can’t fight what it used to fight anymore
@@fent276 are u insane, the flight model is very good. It can fight everything it could, and the radar is still good. U just need more skill.
bro made the offbrand SU-47 in the thumbnail 😭
Damn I forgot the Su-47 exists
I feel ashamed
I forgot this guy existed, i remember back when you where a simple planes TH-camr
finally someone makes a review of the premium i want to buy
Every wt youtuber did a vid abt it lmao
@@MageOtter27 outdated ones
Looooool,this aged well for me,I watched ur old video yesterady,yt algorithm i love u
Id say its a good plane yes but in my opinion no premium is worth 60€ or more id say 30€ is appropriate but for that we have the sales i guess
The MLD has better flight performance than the ML
I'm grateful for you tutorials for simple planes especially the custom missle!
Thank you!
Bro f14a eat the mig23 for breakfast and with it's 6 aim7f is criminal at 11.7 even if they're not the best they're still one of the best but having 6 of them is crazy
Walvis Walvis
The radar got MTI which is basically Pulse Doppler but only works under 1800 meters altitude. So the radar pretty very good especially when u hug the ground where u can use the MTI (at home pulse doppler) to track ppl through the ground clutter
The standard pulse on this radar is so strong that 95% of the time you don't even need MTI.
@@WalvisYT fair enough, but still
mig23ml is a purchase i never regretted. IMO best jet in the russian tech tree as of rn with the rest being missile carrier shit boxes with how theyre modelled.
I saw a comparason of the 3 23MLs in WTRTI and iirc the ML had a max instructor AoA of 19.5° while the MLD and MLA had 23/24°
Is the addition of the NATO reporting (when you viewed the stat cards of the Mig-23M and MLD) names a few feature or is it a WTlive thing?
i used to play the mig23ml to grind ussr when it sill had a very good rwr my strategy was to go at about 5500m-7500m on the opposite side of my team going directly on the enemy teamdiving and shooting my r24t at low flying enemies that werent exepecting to get shotdown this soon (because the plane is basically a fucking rocket) i have a 890kill to 590 death ratio while it was my first ever jet and premium so for me the r24t is still in my little heart haha but get that now with con trail visibility buff and the nerfed rwr this isnt a good strategy anymore
Please post again it’s been a few months I miss your videos :(
ahhhh yes warthunder has met its match in youtube ad space where theres a raid ad in a warthunder vid now to see the oposite
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MiG-23ML, Destroyer of TTAA, taker of quad aces
when will they combine mla and mld into mig-23 MALD
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Walvis, can you do a review on the av8a (and now since its going offsale after the may sales, a vid like the j35a where it’s “a plane you can’t buy anymore”)?
The one mig23 nobody should play is the m its probably the worst plane I played at that br
The MLD has a better radar, rwr and it can carry R77 in real life, so if gaijin adds them that plane might get them
good god if gaijin does that it is truly over
The MLD could not carry R-77's, it couldn't even carry R-27's, but the MIG-23-98 could carry both, while also having a helmet mounted display and more.
@@1234femmarcwrong, MiG 23 MLD and only MLD could carry those said missiles (r27 and r77)
@@ravenzero23 The entire point of the Mig-23-98 program was to integrate those weapons and other features into the Mig-23 platform.
@@1234femmarc my bad, I read MiG 23 -98 as MiG 29-98 so apologies for that, but still MiG 23 MLD was able to carry those said missiles
WALVIS WAKE UP SP2 TRAILER DROPPED 🗣🔥🔥🔥
I bought the mig23ML the R24R never got flared and I used mig23ML to get to the su-27 it is worth 70
THERE'S NO FUCKING WAY YOU CALLED YOUR CLAN "FOOT SMELLERS" 💀
Question: With the announcement of SP 2, do you at all plan on covering it?
I originally found your channel through SP, and I would appreciate it if you did
I will. I'm still friends with a bunch of their website moderators and devs, and I've received some important clarification on stuff that is visable in the trailer. Next trailer I'll make a proper discussion video. Right now I am just too buzy with my thesis, sadly.
when are you gonna make the Simpleplanes tutorials you said?
Dear Walvis, brother, have you seen fly out? This game is funking awesome, it's like simple planes 2, it's more detailed and you can make some awesome stuff in it, and you can make some DCS world quality planes in it, please brother, return to your roots and return to creating awesome planes please brother, it is not too late to regrow your soul
i smell a little NL
xd
When will we be able to test every vehicle in tech trees (every, so not only Premium vehicles).
wait for the Tier8 premium!
Can you make a video on simpleplanes 2?
Im so excited for it. But 2025 =(
the ml is probably the only premium worth more than 40 bucks
The thumbnail looks like an su 47
Really good in RB, kinda bad in SB though.
I would honestly take the Su-39 over this if you want to play SB. It's a better fighter and attack. 😂
23ml is very sigma, some might even say skibidi.
there's a simpleplanes 2 trailer now by jundroo
can i become a kamakize with it
Have you seen Simpleplanes 2 trailer?
I have 5 games on 10.3 lobbies with Mig-23MLD and 135 on 12.0/12.3 lobbies, I suppose its the same for the premium one. And its not that fun against Mig-29 and especially F-16s and F-15s. If not then game is stupidly rigged. Well, its still is to be honest
if i've ever wanted to spend money to have something i already have just to have it in another tech-tree like sweden or something
I just can’t hit with the cannon on that thing
i get constant ACE 4 kills with the MLA
You do realize that getting even only 2 kills per game on average is something only 0.01% of WT players are capable of, right?
@@WalvisYT sorry, i just struggle to get 1 or 2 kills with other planes
Imagine spending 70 bucks for a fking plane in this Game. Nah i rather wait die Sale or buy ihrer Games
Seeing your bomber line untouched makes me cry as a strike/attack/bomber main
I try to have fun when I play WT.
So what you are saying is
you bring 0 value to the team in air rb?
Yess the worst useless and boring planes must go unplayed!
you are dead weight
Walvis flu
Its NOT worth right away.
Any Premium vehicle in any game is only worth if its under 30$. Anything above is legit rip off.
I got the f-5c, is the MIG23ML better than the f-5c for grinding? Cuz I might cop it just because after I am done grinding US tech tree I want to grind Russian next. (yes I know, premium thunder, im not looking to spend 8k hours of my life grinding 2 tech trees)
imao it's hard to say which is better. If you are looking for something to grind through the soviet tech tree, then I'd say the 23ML is your best choice.
@@WalvisYTthanks for the advice, hopefully by the time I'm done grinding the US tech tree and have gotten bored of the f-14,15, and 16 it will go on sale.
Is it worth 70 USD? Choose your next words wisely… I’ve heard the snail has teams ready to raid your home and find your wallet…
Nice video though, I already have the plane but the video is oddly satisfying to watch nonetheless
I think you mean the short answer is NO
$30 MAYBE, it’s one of the top premiums to buy Yes, but $70 Gaijin who are you kidding
3:35 I think you are in disadvantage 🤔
SimplePlanes 2 opinion?!
The Ml have a reveiw in my chanel to and i sad that it good
Idc abt grinding bruh I just bought this bc I love da 23
Youre a good person
wish you can pin a comment of you talking about how its sustained turn rate will become worse, other than that good vid
I agree :(
@@WalvisYT just edit the pinned comment with a read more section? or is that not allowed
@@Null24 Actually that is a good idea I didn't think of...
"of course any radar missile is as good as the radar set its paired with"
idk who told you that but no.
How is that not true?
@@WalvisYTlets take 530f for a reason. No matter what radar will it be paired with, that is m2k, or mf1, it will never be good, because its pulse seeker, it really applies to any type of pulse sarh's.
Or lets say aim7E, it doesnt matter if the missile is mounted on ej kai or ej, the missile will perform very poorly no matter what, and that applies to really, every very early cw seeker sarh's.
Ofc im saying all of this, because i understood this quote as "if a missile will have a better radar set, it will perform better, and if a missile will have a worse radar set, it will perform worse"
And while it is true to some extent, for example idk aim7f being handicapped by f4j's radar, it is rarely true.
Of course i might be mistaken or misunderstood the quote, then im sorry in advance.
it's so sad to see a five year old taking hard drugs and trying to sell it to others. remember kids, say no to Raid.
Berkut leak?
Whalefish are u gon uplod sp 2?????
not worth 70
7 at most
So are you planning to go back to SimplePlanes??
When there's more info on SP2, yes
@@WalvisYT ok
so your telling me Russia have the best premium jet!? no way.
worth to get in sale?
If you want to buy a premium to grind through the USSR techtree, then I'd say yes.
@WalvisYT ok thanks man, also really like ur vids
ik zag je titel aan het begin wel jij sluie wolf...
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Sorry
RAID SHADOW LEGENDS
Ngl raid shadow legends SUCKS!!
MiG-23MLD is a MiG-23ML With Leading-Edge Slats
And a usable RWR
@@themera8921 you're right
4:44 bruh what are you doing haha, bros making a video about a plane that he doesnt even know how to fly proprely
Elaborate. This clip is from a game where I was trying to spam the R60M to showcase what it's like. It's not an example of great gameplay; nobody should be spamming missiles like this.
@@WalvisYT I get your point, the thing that made my brain explode was the energy suicide you committed by keeping your wings fully folded back while in a high speed turn. When in a chasing situation like this or even a defensive one at high speed I would recommend to use manual wing sweep in range of 60%-80% to drastically decrease energy bleed. In this scenario at 4:44 it would possibly allow you to close distance faster. Anyways keep making great content and keep improving as a player we all love war thunder.
Short answer: don't buy it, no single vehicle in any game is worth 70$, spend your money wisely folks
I'd say if you REALLY wanted to grind the soviet techtree, buy a lower tier premium like the YAK-3, SU-6, or _maybe_ the SU-11
or wait for a sale
5 views after 1 minute. FELL OFF
68*
ur blind brp
Unfunny, delete youtube
I've 100 GJN to spend on a premium to grind through the USSR tree, and while you make some great points, I personally don't think this plane is worth $70, or even $35 when on sale
Reason being that I think it is extremely ugly looking.
I'm just gonna buy the Su-11 instead :))
This plane is absurdly OP to me. I main USA, i always face it, even un an uptier, it slams. I hate it with every fiber of my being, and clearly shows Russian bias
Russian bias doesn't exist.
first
The best jet? You mean the one that gets outturned by everything, and the one that's missiles don't fucking work half the time?
That jet?
I have the MLD and it's nearly unplayable due to everyone simply outclassing you in every aspect in an even slight uptier
Welcome to war thunder
This comment is absolute gold 🤣🤣🤣
watch the video broski
Skill issue
Skill issue
not worth 70
7 at most