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If Jesus is not my mediator then how do they explain verse John 14:6? “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
EDITED: *You are misrepresenting The Watchtower publication once again* , just as those other individuals did. You people only read one, two paragraphs *and then leave the rest out, thus conveying half truths* . So let’s read what the article is *actually saying* . *The Watchtower, 1 April, 1979, Page 31* states: *1* . “ *Moses* was the “ *mediator* ” of the *Law covenant* made *between God* and the *nation of Israel* . (Galatians 3:19, 20) *2* . *Christ* , though, is the “ *mediator of a new covenant* ” *between Jehovah* and *spiritual Israel* , the “ *Israel of God* ” that will serve as kings and priests in heaven with Jesus. (Hebrews 8:6; Hebrews 9:15; Hebrews 12:24; Galatians 6:16) *3* . At a time when God was *selecting those to be taken into that new covenant* , the apostle Paul wrote that *Christ* was the “ *one mediator between God* and *men* .” (1 Timothy 2:5) *4* . Reasonably Paul was here using the word “mediator” *in the same way* he did the *other five times* , which *occurred before* the writing of *1 Timothy 2:5* , referring to *those then being taken into the new covenant* for which *Christ* is “ *mediator* .” *5* . So in this *strict Biblical sense Jesus* is the “ *mediator* ” *only for anointed Christians* . *6* . The new covenant will terminate with the glorification of the remnant *who are today in that covenant mediated by Christ* . *7* . The “ *great crowd* ” of “ *other sheep* ” that is *forming today is not in that new covenant* . *8* . However, *by their associating with the “little flock” of those yet in that covenant they come under benefits that flow from that new covenant* . *9* . During the millennium *Jesus Christ will be their king, high priest and judge* . *CONCLUSION* *1* . As seen, Jesus’ mediation is *primarily* for “ *The Israel of God* “, just as *it was the case* when *Moses* was the *mediator primarily* for *natural Jews* . (Exodus 19:1-6; Galatians 3:19-20) *2* . By *extension* , it also benefits *everyone else who is not a member of* “ *The Israel of God* “, just as *it was the case* when *Moses’ mediation* also benefited *non-Jews who lived alongside the natural Jews* . (Please read *Exodus 12:49* ; *Leviticus 19:33* ; *Numbers **15:14**-16* ) If the *foreigner residents* of natural Israel *did not have a problem benefiting by extension from Moses’ mediation* , why should I have a problem with *benefiting by extension of Jesus’ mediation* ? Like I said before, *you guys misrepresent The Scriptures and The Watchtower publications* . EDITED: The difficulty with having the JW derangement syndrome is that, *it does not allow you guys to understand the role of a mediator* , which is different from the *role of a High Priest* . The role of a mediator *is to intercede, just as Moses did, on behalf of the parties directly involved in the pact or agreement or situation* . The *foreign residents were not directly involved in the covenant between God and natural Jews* . This is why Moses *was not strictly a mediator for the foreign residents* living alongside natural Jews. However, *by extension or association with the ones directly involved (natural Jews), those foreign residents also benefited from Moses’ mediation* . Yes, Jehovah God *would bless all equally* . Being a mediator *has nothing to with the forgiveness of sins, just as Moses’ role was not to ensure the sins of the people were forgiven* . No, for that they had the *High Priest Aaron* . He was the *only one responsible to present the life sacrifice of animals on behalf of natural Jews and foreign residents* . One of the other roles Jesus has is to be *High Priest* . This role is exercised by Jesus *primarily* for “The Israel of God” and *secondarily* for the “Foreign Residents”, just as it was the case during the jewish worship system era. I’m more than happy to keep clarifying the half truths apostates speak about. Let me know if I need to clarify any other nonsense you guys misinterpret and/or misrepresent about The Scriptures and The Watchtower Society. *Come back before it’s too late* !
@@MC-to3ry You're talking with apostates, brother. Don't you know that the governing body has directed faithful brothers to not speak with them? YOU are the one who risks being thrown into the fiery pit of Gehenna for having open discourse with your fellow man! You are being disobedient and brazen! They could disfellowship you for brazen conduct. The men in this video are the ones who are actually free.
@@MC-to3ry What makes you think you shut the mouth of apostates? The exjw subreddit grew by about 10,000 people in the last year. The organization's total publishers worldwide shrank by -0.6%. Check out the "amazing growth," of the organization in the most recent service report and have a nice day.
Thanks guys! I loved it when Mark said "I studied myself into the organization through association and reading Watchtower books and literature. I studied myself out of the organization by reading my bible." So well put. JWorg puts the policies of old men ahead of God's word.
How are you Susan, I thank you for that link you sent years ago about "paradise earth" and "living forever" in it. do you watch the channel Godrules? he is on a lot of the same page. You once told me that I might not be ready to learn where you have come to in your understanding, but I always follow truth, and I think I got there and have gone even beyond what you were referring to. I have found many new truths in scripture, some by going back to the Greek and Hebrew.
Individuals study themselves out of the JW organization because they are running with half a heart. An individual can be double hearted. How so? They try serving two masters. Or they deceptively are saying one thing while thinking something else. The Israelites were doing that while serving Baal. They were involved in Baal worship while giving credit to their God Jehovah. Jesus strongly denounced such doublehearted hypocrisy.- Mt 15:7, 8.
Everytime that I look at your videos. My sleep is more peaceful than the previous night. Thank you for shining a true light on these ever shifting teachings of the governing body. Thank you for making my bible reading personal. Thank you for walking away from this organization and looking back at me and thousands of other brothers and sisters that were groping through the Watchtower brochure and books trying to connect the dots. Only to be told, make it a matter of prayer, Jehovah will give you the understanding. TH-cam only allows me to give a thumbs up. but here in my comment. I give you all 1000 thumbs up.
They still telling people the same crap study harder only their publication and their Bible they don't realize they going in circles so they believe it the right word for their life because it's in a circle . you can not get off a wheel unless you fall off. you have to read another Bible and another kind literature of Christians to get off their wheel to no where first and hop on another wheel that rolling forward and not just turning in circles.🤔
I would agree with watching these videos helping me sleep better, Since I have lost a best friend to this religion and still in limited contact with the friends family to this day I am learning more and more every night when I get home watching these videos things I never knew or understood about the organization like disfellowshiping back then when I was a teenager I didn't know that word all I know is my best friend gets kicked out of his parents house because he did not want to go along with there religion and he was cought walking with a girl his girlfriend he meet at school.
Of course Jesus is my mediator. That is why JW was NOT for me from a young child. I realized at a middle schoolers age, this didn’t feel right in my life. Too many questions that I kept to myself and didn’t confront because I was just a kid. Sooooo glad I followed my gut. I love my Christian beliefs and that Jesus is my savior and redeemer. He walks beside me every day!
You are so right they have a way with words. I often wonder why the new testament only apply to the anointed. When I learned that the new testament is for me also and that how I benefits my life change so much for the better and is getting better each day. God is Good all the time. When you go to a judicial hearing you find out Jesus is not your mediator because you have to go through the elder to get Jehovah forgiveness like the saying goes the head of the fish stinks first.
I don't attend anymore the meetings of Jehovah witness's, but when I did I went to the spanish congregations. From what I'm hearing of the english meetings,the people, and everything about them are very different. They have always taught that Jesus is the only way, to God ...the spanish congregations when someone gets disfellowshipped, the brothers go out of there way to go visit, encourage, study, and make the person feel that everyone makes a mistake and helps them ....
You all are a great example to those who are thinking "what do I do after I leave the truth?" Continue to do research. You will be amazed at all the information out there.
Going to meetings 1982 in my mother's womb this one surprisingly got past me for a long time until October 13,2022. 2:15am . The Watchtower Magazine has said for a long time ¿ "If someone gives you a glass of water & they put just one drop of poison in it would you drink it? Watchtower went on to say ¿ "If a Religion has just a little untruth does Jehovah view that Religion as acceptable "? Not the Catholic or Watchtower or Websters dictionary which says a person leaving a Religion is a Apostate. I did a ton of Bible research & the Bibles definition of (Apostate is as follows) Apostate: One who knowingly practice false spiritual teaching and or knowingly practice false worship divination/magic , after knowing God & his WORD . The Catholics redefined the word Apostate to their benefit & the Watchtower has even further used & abused the use it. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for this information. I hope that I love all humans & I would like to think that I do !!! Just like Jesus died for all of us to have chance. So all u observers please PRAY for people that don't know to learn better to repent apologize and get much more humble × 1,000 so as to have a chance. Believe it or not some times pride can blind us all it a tool the Devil has used since the first humans. Then the man cast blame on the women who God gave him , not humble enough to take responsibility for his actions. I hope that when Jesus comes to judge weather it be 5 minutes from now or 200 years from now . I hope I can have the humility to take responsibility for my own actions weather I get saved or not .And fall to my nees and say I'm sorry. I feel that if that happens sincerely my chance of eternal life may go way up. But also to try to live a clean & loving life right now. Those that fead me , those that covered me ,those that came to see me incarcerated. If u have done it to the least ones it's as u did it to me . Practical COMPASSION
Right! I told my husband this he said they do not teach this. I showed him the Watchtower article and he has been silent every since lol! Most JW'S do not even know what they are being taught!
Another great video guys! I've said it then and I'll say it again, NOBODY NEEDS A RELIGION, AN ORGANIZATION, A CHURCH TI BE SAVED CAUSE THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN INTERPRETATION. ALL WE NEED IS TO PRAY TO JESUS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR TO TEACH US THE TRUE WORD OF GOD THRU THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Maria Cerv ; no what you need to do is on Utube look for ; Christophe Hitchens , Richard Dawkins , Sam Harris , Dark Matter 2525 , The Atheist Experience and Carl Sagan ~ You're Welcome
@@mariacervantes5077 typical , blind to the fact that your god is a monster . No matter how cruel he is , you'll worship him . All faith means is accepting something without any evidence , how is that a path to find the truth . Faith is not a virtue it's gullibility .
Richard Voyer you can say all you want, what makes you think I'm going to listen to you??? If you're happy in your world let me be happy in mine. By the way having patience is a virtue, having faith it's in your heart...
Growing up with these types of teachings was so confusing. It made it feel so impossible and difficult to know these deep things. They make us think we can’t think for ourselves, thank goodness we have the anointed men to do the thinking for us! I’m so relieved to finally be out. I’m so happy to know these aren’t difficult truths to comprehend, when they aren’t being colluded and twisted to fit a certain agenda!
I know...my mom's been in since 1974 and just found out that according to JW's, Jesus is not her mediator. She had to check with an elder, and sure enough! But since the Gov. Body said it, it's okay. (I don't have an emoji with crossed eyes, or I'd post it here). They say it every Memorial talk...am I (the apostate) the only one who listened? It would appear that they are like children who hear their parent's voice but aren't listening to a single word that's being said.
It's sad really. How does one make a defense for the faith within them when they don't even know what their belief system even entails? If your beliefs are what someone else tells you they are, then you don't have any beliefs. You aren't driving your car you are catching a cab so to speak.
Jehovah Witness teachings change like a clock. Worship JESUS. "Let all angels of God worship Him, that must include Michael the chief Angel hence Michael is not the Son of God". Watchtower November 1879 P 48. "To worship Christ in any form cannot be wrong" Watchtower March 1880.P83. "All creatures in Heaven and Earth shall worship Jesus as he worship the father" Watchtower August 15th,1941 P252. 'It is unscriptural for worshippers of the living and true God to render worship to the Son of God Jesus Christ". Watchtower November 1st, 1964 P 671. "But when he again brings his first born into inhabited Earth he says I let all God's angels worship Him" Hebrews 1:6. New World Translation 1961 Edition page 1293. JESUS CHRIST SAID HE IS THE FIRST AND LAST AND THE ALMIGHTY.. REVELATION 1:8.(kjv)
WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS VERY SIMPLE, CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THE FAITHFUL AND DISCRETE SLAVE'S SUPPOSED INSIGHT OR BELIEVE THE WRITTEN WORD. NOT A HARD DECISION!!!
"WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS VERY SIMPLE, CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THE FAITHFUL AND DISCRETE SLAVE'S SUPPOSED INSIGHT OR BELIEVE THE WRITTEN WORD. NOT A HARD DECISION!!!" > It's a very hard decision when you're told that you can't understand the Bible independent of the faithful and discreet slave organization. It's a very hard decision when you're told to trust in Jehovah [and the faithful and discreet slave] and do not lean on your own understanding [of the Bible]. It's a very hard decision when you're told to avoid independent thinking, which translates to meaning that the Bible doesn't mean what you independently think it means. Rather, it can only mean what "Jehovah's Organization" says it means. It's only an easy decision for minds that have not been corrupted by, or have escaped from, mind-altering Watchtower propaganda.
Andy Sandoval the very fact that he said if you read the Bible alone then you will not believe the watchtower's interpretation proves that the two contradict each other at times. And I don't know about you but I would rather choose to listen to God than men.
When I left over thirty years ago I didn't understand that teaching about Jesus either and it never set well with me. It was just five years ago someone at work asked me about it that I started researching and the realization of Jesus, who he is and why he came, the real truth unburden me from alot of bondage. I don't believe that many jws know or really care to know. They are satisfied following the gb.
I always prayed through Jesus as our mediator. As far as I know, we all believed that Jesus was our mediator. It was only after I left the JWs that I found out that Jesus is viewed as the mediator to the anointed and not to the rank & file. JWs think that they are having the best education but in reality they don’t know anything.
GREAT speaker and orator brother Mark Martin is......I wish he had been giving some of the "Sunday talks" in Chicago when I was growing up........lol...
Great video guys!!….It's amazing how many JWs don't even realize this and yet when you try to explain it to them, they think you're trying to push apostate information on them. It really shows how many don't really even study their own publications!!
I am currently meeting with an elder of a local Kingdom Hall on a regular basis. I think the hardest part for me to understand is how can he or any JW, who reads and studies their Bible so much, not realize that what is plainly said in Scripture is completely opposite to what the WTS teaches. It's not like it's close to the Bible. They are completely mutually exclusive to one another.
This is so sad, so many on the road leading to distraction and don’t even know it. I can only hope that they wake up before it’s too late for them to develop a genuine relationship with our Heavenly Father. The organization contradicts the Bible at every twist and turn.@
Melody M ; Why would you want to develop a genuine relationship with somebody who has lower morals than you ? I don't get it 🤔 It's no secret that he's barbaric , egotistical , extremely sadistic , blood thirsty , jealous , childish , violent , incompetent , hates women , abusive , torturer...moron ! Why a flood ? He could have went "poof" you're all dead but no not the most high and powerful and loving and intelligent and omni this and omni that , he drowned everybody instead , what a dick . Religions brag about how god helps them with many different things even heals the sick , but when it comes to money god can't help them only their followers can help them with money , weird hey ? I have a plan says penis brain ; torture and kill my son for starters . DISGUSTING That's why the bible 🤮 simply just cannot be true . That barbaric stone age infantile fairytale should be put away with zeus and all other gods . It's a ridiculous story ! Let's say the story is true , then what ? We worship the idiot even though we know he's evil , see either way we're doomed .
When two JW Elders came to my door I asked them if Jesus is their mediator. They said that he is and that they could not pray to Jehovah if he was not their mediator. They also said that they were not of the anointed. Since then I have asked this question to every JW that I meet on the streets, they all say that Jesus is their mediator. The Governing Body must be aware that JW's consider Jesus to be their mediator and yet I have yet to see on JW Broadcasting or in any recent Watchtower literature a statement saying that Jesus is not the mediator for non-anointed JW's. It looks like this is a topic that the GB and Watchtower are shying away from.
Praise God there are people finding Jesus in spite of the erroneous teachings of the JWs! May more come to know there is a God of love and avoid stumbling over any stone of stumbling!
Their own publications constantly contradict what they say on a regular basis. Why anyone would believe what they say without doing their introspection behooves me.I love his statement about using his own bible to study himself out of the organization. I used the general library to do the same.
Mark, You being OUT of the organization could very well be adding to the success of your marriage. Thank you for sharing your story AND your research. Peace!
I started feeling that the elders themselves were blocking my access to Jesus& Jehovah because if you criticized the elders you automatically was speaking ng against Jehovah because they were appointed through holy spirit.So it was the elders,the GB,Jesus,Jehovah so their were hoops to be jumped simply to get access to Jesus&Jehovah this was my feeling& my understanding.
I had never heard of Jesus not being our mediator either. Has anyone applied John 10:8 to this? I'm truly in awe at the unique translation of the NWT, which reads "All those that have come IN PLACE of me are thieves and plunderers." Whereas I've compared more than 20 bibles and they all say "all who have come before me." Based on the context I actually feel "in place" is more accurate... but I just think it's amazing these words are chosen while the Governing Body teach they're our mediator! They have in fact put themselves in place of Jesus!! And... they are thieves and plunders. They steal and kill and destroy.
You guys are my favorites. I am from and still live in South Africa.... I relate to you bros in a major way. thank you and keep this up. I have helped so many of my friends by using a lot of your videos as a base for the conversations I will then have with them.... when I left this cult in 2016 I lost everything and everyone id none for 31 years but people are waking up IN NUMBERS
Mark Martin, you moved up like most free people by nepotism. Totally Cooperate American, when I was Baptize Jesus was the mediator, it change over the years. When my daughter got baptize it became organizational.
Lady C, JT, & Daniel, thank you very much for these most informative videos. It is a very good thing for an individual to be psychologically emancipated, but it is also very good for these emancipated individuals to realize that freedom doesn't mean that they should forget all the fine instructions that the bible has outlined for us. Some of the respondent Ex-JWs to your emancipation videos seen to think that just because they are now no longer a part of the JW cult that they are now free to do whatever comes to mind not realizing that our actions still come with consequences. God has given us many good instructions on how we can have a successful life, free of disease and heartaches. Please make a video emphasizing these important issues. Thanks.
If Jesus is not the Mediator, who could help us pass the prayer to Jehovah God. And what is the point of Jesus being a High Priest as mentioned in Hebrews 4: 14 - 16 and Hebrews 5: 1 - 10.
Wowwww!!! WOW! All the time I was a JW (over 33 years) and I had never thought of it this way! 😳 I have ALWAYS believed that Jesus was and is my mediator. I remember the articles mentioned and honestly I didn’t get that that was what they were saying! How blind was I? You’re right when the emotions are high logic is low. I don’t think that’s the exact words you used but that’s they idea. Oh, yes, I remember hearing “in a sense” I also remember asking what on earth that means, but fear was so strong.
Jesus is my mediator. I believe in Jehovah and that his Son died for our sins. I also believe that if my prayers are to be heard by Jehovah, they must pass through Jesus as a dog for our sins. I do not agree with everything the organization says or does, but my faith in Jehovah and Jesus is steadfast. The word of the Bible, which is Jehovah's word, always precedes humans.
(I left this comment also on Part One.) I am a bit confused. I came from the so called world to study with Jehovah's Witnesses and became one for a very long time . Left in 2013. Was in it for about 20 yrs. I always heard them say that Jesus is our personal mediator between us and God each individually. Having said that, I do not doubt people's personal stories and experiences as I have had my own in this faith. This is why I left.
I would like to thank all of you for a great video. I find it interesting at 6:25 that the definition of a mediator fits the Governing Body more than it does Jesus for the average JW.
Here's another question to add to the list. And if you feel you know the answer to this, PLEASE by all means answer, and this includes JT. If Jesus IS my mediator, does this mean that Jehovah's Witnesses that are not included in the 144.000 are incorrect in NOT partaking of the emblems of wine and bread during the yearly Memorial Service?
Marisela Ramirez great question - here is the thing at the end of the day God Is going to make the final call As a jw we spent so much TIME worrying about what God was going to do- think about it Why were always trying to determine what God will read in ANY persons heart as they say it's ABOVE MY PAY GRADE That why we say. I prefer to have questions I can't answer RATHER than answers I can't question
This representation has strengthen me even more joy and I am happy for the decision I made to resigned from the Organization of Jehovah"s Witnesses. Thank you so much for your time. Keep going strong and the grace of the Lord be with you all.
It's so refreshing to hear your background story that you were an actual JW and you actually served in the capacity you so you know the ins and outside of the organization and you know how delicate this subject can be to even bring this up with family who are indoctrinated by the JW's teachings as how I was being brought up as a JW myself and finally waking up, your story is an inspiration for people like myself thank you for sharing, I've always respected your commentaries on these video, but I surely can really appreciate your work more so now after hearing your background story thanks again God bless you.
This is the reason I left without looking back. I thought t myself I Jesus Christ is not my Mediator then all my efforts to e pleasing to Jehovah was in vain. All my sacrifices that I made while in the Organization as a requirement of God was in vain. Everything became futile if Jesus Christ isn't my Mediator to Jehovah God.
Yes Mark!! The logical conclusion to Watchtower's claim that Jesus is only mediator for the144 000 and it is by *association with them* our prayers can be heard by God, is that the Governing Body are our mediators! They have literally taken the place of Jesus. I don't subscribe to Watchtower's other claim that revelation refers to our time in particular. But my goodness, they're a *literal example* of false men coming in Jesus name saying "I am he"!!!
I have family members who are JWs. I’ve been having some conversations about the NWT. I am trying to get them to realize that they must think for themselves. I am a Christian. I have been watching your videos for several months now. My question to all of you is the following. What do you consider yourselves? Are y’all Christians? Do y’all still read the NWT? Thank you for sharing your knowledge and critical thinking.
Y’all go watch the video titled “ambushed by elders”, I believe ex jw analyzer uploaded it. I can’t remember exactly which one, but they both are good. In the video the ex brother asks 2 elders if Jesus is their mediator. They say of course. These brothers have been in the truth for decades, and are elders, and even they out out dated due to the org flip flopping and changing things. Go watch those videos, there’s even one with a CO and elder.
Mind blowingly bizarre. 1 Tim 2:5 even in THEIR bible does not give any sort of exception. Not even in their footnotes. Like you said, JT. if someone is ONLY going to be a lawyer *IN A SENSE* then you would be foolish to hire that lawyer who isn't going to have your back to the full. Sadly, *new light* on the issue of the *ANOINTED* says that the anointed don't even know who they are. Well if THEY don't know who they are, how are the rank and file supposed to know? And if the R&F don't know, how can they follow these unknown anointed in order to have a second hand mediator? MESSED UP!!!! 🚽
He is right. The watchtower has completely removed Jesus and replaced Jesus with the governing body. The only time they mention Jesus is when the memorial comes around. I was an elder for 3 years before I willingly disassociated myself.
Praise Yah for you brothers. So many have been lead to destruction by falling prey to the organization who are the epitome of wolves in sheeps clothing. HalaluYAH!
Im asking this question because my mother has been awitness for over 50 yrs and this is the first I am Even aware of the info in this video. If you or anyone for that matter is not aware that they are a chosen 144,000, how would you know if Christ is or isn't your mediator?
The governing body needs to be thrown behind bars there pure evil. If there was a hell they would deserve to burn in it. How can you love money this much power and greed
Rev 20:10 says the false prophet is going somewhere to get tormented forever. They can fool everyone into believing there's no such eternal torment, but they forgot to take that line out of their Bible like other scriptures they took out.
Just because of the fact that we now acknowledge and expose the lies concerning Jehovah Witnesses, do we now disregard the truth also that we learned concerning the worldly churches and their doctrines? Lies advocated by these churches, have they now suddenly become truth, and should we now accept them and its okay to join these churches? We need another place where Ex-JW can go for spiritual food and not go back to the worldly churches
Thank you Critical Thinker, I needed that ❣️your videos have given me courage to stay strong (re your ❤️ on my very first TH-cam comment since my leaving)
I know this is an old video but I'm curious what your thoughts are their newest publication that warns the congregations not to be stumbled by " Jesus" ?
I am confused, are the JT and Lady Cee and Daniel religious or god believers? i am just wondering because they talk about critical thinking and the god approach or jesus doesn’t hold if you use critical thinking...nonetheless, i really like your videos...
This is a channel to help JWs reason about WT teachings, to think about & examine what is being said/done. It isn't a channel to espouse a particular belief system over another.
cool... i love their channel don’t get me wrong, i am just saying it cause i am not a JW anymore cause i decided to think critically about genesis...critical thinking doesn’t have a set of beliefs...i agree with the motive of the channel...thanks
We have found that after 10.20.30 yrs of having someone Preaching to them, most jw leaving dont want or need someone else preaching to them. Get out of the burning building and you can worry about your Shoes later jt
That teaching is my far the most disrespectful teaching to Jesus Christ that could ever be taught. Jesus earned through suffering that title of mediator and to deny him that is blasphemy! What worse is nobody seems to capitalize on the 2nd half of there statement "by being in association with the little flock, the other sheep receive benefits that flow from the covenant" basically by being a JW who listens and does what the Governing body says to do, you'll be saved! WOW! What a load of crap! Psalm 146: 3, 4: Do not trust man to whom no salvation belongs!"
The GB have placed themselves in Jesus position. According to their NWT of the bible, 2 Corinthians 5:20 reads "Therefore, we are ambassadors SUBSTITUTING FOR CHRIST, as though God were making an appeal through us. As SUBSTITUTES FOR CHRIST, we beg: “Become reconciled to God.”
Today the Governing Body claims they are the mediators now and they follow the bible when the bible clearly states Jesus is mediator for all mankind. How does this not make every JW wake up.
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If Jesus is not my mediator then how do they explain verse John 14:6? “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
EDITED: *You are misrepresenting The Watchtower publication once again* , just as those other individuals did. You people only read one, two paragraphs *and then leave the rest out, thus conveying half truths* .
So let’s read what the article is *actually saying* . *The Watchtower, 1 April, 1979, Page 31* states:
*1* . “ *Moses* was the “ *mediator* ” of the *Law covenant* made *between God* and the *nation of Israel* . (Galatians 3:19, 20)
*2* . *Christ* , though, is the “ *mediator of a new covenant* ” *between Jehovah* and *spiritual Israel* , the “ *Israel of God* ” that will serve as kings and priests in heaven with Jesus. (Hebrews 8:6; Hebrews 9:15; Hebrews 12:24; Galatians 6:16)
*3* . At a time when God was *selecting those to be taken into that new covenant* , the apostle Paul wrote that *Christ* was the “ *one mediator between God* and *men* .” (1 Timothy 2:5)
*4* . Reasonably Paul was here using the word “mediator” *in the same way* he did the *other five times* , which *occurred before* the writing of *1 Timothy 2:5* , referring to *those then being taken into the new covenant* for which *Christ* is “ *mediator* .”
*5* . So in this *strict Biblical sense Jesus* is the “ *mediator* ” *only for anointed Christians* .
*6* . The new covenant will terminate with the glorification of the remnant *who are today in that covenant mediated by Christ* .
*7* . The “ *great crowd* ” of “ *other sheep* ” that is *forming today is not in that new covenant* .
*8* . However, *by their associating with the “little flock” of those yet in that covenant they come under benefits that flow from that new covenant* .
*9* . During the millennium *Jesus Christ will be their king, high priest and judge* .
*CONCLUSION*
*1* . As seen, Jesus’ mediation is *primarily* for “ *The Israel of God* “, just as *it was the case* when *Moses* was the *mediator primarily* for *natural Jews* . (Exodus 19:1-6; Galatians 3:19-20)
*2* . By *extension* , it also benefits *everyone else who is not a member of* “ *The Israel of God* “, just as *it was the case* when *Moses’ mediation* also benefited *non-Jews who lived alongside the natural Jews* . (Please read *Exodus 12:49* ; *Leviticus 19:33* ; *Numbers **15:14**-16* )
If the *foreigner residents* of natural Israel *did not have a problem benefiting by extension from Moses’ mediation* , why should I have a problem with *benefiting by extension of Jesus’ mediation* ?
Like I said before, *you guys misrepresent The Scriptures and The Watchtower publications* .
EDITED: The difficulty with having the JW derangement syndrome is that, *it does not allow you guys to understand the role of a mediator* , which is different from the *role of a High Priest* .
The role of a mediator *is to intercede, just as Moses did, on behalf of the parties directly involved in the pact or agreement or situation* . The *foreign residents were not directly involved in the covenant between God and natural Jews* . This is why Moses *was not strictly a mediator for the foreign residents* living alongside natural Jews. However, *by extension or association with the ones directly involved (natural Jews), those foreign residents also benefited from Moses’ mediation* . Yes, Jehovah God *would bless all equally* .
Being a mediator *has nothing to with the forgiveness of sins, just as Moses’ role was not to ensure the sins of the people were forgiven* .
No, for that they had the *High Priest Aaron* . He was the *only one responsible to present the life sacrifice of animals on behalf of natural Jews and foreign residents* . One of the other roles Jesus has is to be *High Priest* . This role is exercised by Jesus *primarily* for “The Israel of God” and *secondarily* for the “Foreign Residents”, just as it was the case during the jewish worship system era.
I’m more than happy to keep clarifying the half truths apostates speak about. Let me know if I need to clarify any other nonsense you guys misinterpret and/or misrepresent about The Scriptures and The Watchtower Society.
*Come back before it’s too late* !
@@MC-to3ry You're talking with apostates, brother. Don't you know that the governing body has directed faithful brothers to not speak with them? YOU are the one who risks being thrown into the fiery pit of Gehenna for having open discourse with your fellow man! You are being disobedient and brazen! They could disfellowship you for brazen conduct.
The men in this video are the ones who are actually free.
I’m glad the info I presented shut the mouth of unrepentant apostates.
@@MC-to3ry What makes you think you shut the mouth of apostates? The exjw subreddit grew by about 10,000 people in the last year. The organization's total publishers worldwide shrank by -0.6%. Check out the "amazing growth," of the organization in the most recent service report and have a nice day.
Thanks guys! I loved it when Mark said "I studied myself into the organization through association and reading Watchtower books and literature. I studied myself out of the organization by reading my bible." So well put. JWorg puts the policies of old men ahead of God's word.
Maybe they do, but that was some sweet ass background music at the end! 👍
1984 edition or grey sword.....😂😂🐴
How are you Susan, I thank you for that link you sent years ago about "paradise earth" and "living forever" in it. do you watch the channel Godrules? he is on a lot of the same page. You once told me that I might not be ready to learn where you have come to in your understanding, but I always follow truth, and I think I got there and have gone even beyond what you were referring to. I have found many new truths in scripture, some by going back to the Greek and Hebrew.
Susan, how are you???
George in Berlin.
Individuals study themselves out of the JW organization because they are running with half a heart. An individual can be double hearted. How so? They try serving two masters. Or they deceptively are saying one thing while thinking something else. The Israelites were doing that while serving Baal. They were involved in Baal worship while giving credit to their God Jehovah. Jesus strongly denounced such doublehearted hypocrisy.- Mt 15:7, 8.
Everytime that I look at your videos. My sleep is more peaceful than the previous night. Thank you for shining a true light on these ever shifting teachings of the governing body. Thank you for making my bible reading personal. Thank you for walking away from this organization and looking back at me and thousands of other brothers and sisters that were groping through the Watchtower brochure and books trying to connect the dots. Only to be told, make it a matter of prayer, Jehovah will give you the understanding. TH-cam only allows me to give a thumbs up. but here in my comment. I give you all 1000 thumbs up.
They still telling people the same crap study harder only their publication and their Bible they don't realize they going in circles so they believe it the right word for their life because it's in a circle . you can not get off a wheel unless you fall off. you have to read another Bible and another kind literature of Christians to get off their wheel to no where first and hop on another wheel that rolling forward and not just turning in circles.🤔
we all can help each other to see what they say is missing so many parts
jt
I would agree with watching these videos helping me sleep better, Since I have lost a best friend to this religion and still in limited contact with the friends family to this day I am learning more and more every night when I get home watching these videos things I never knew or understood about the organization like disfellowshiping back then when I was a teenager I didn't know that word all I know is my best friend gets kicked out of his parents house because he did not want to go along with there religion and he was cought walking with a girl his girlfriend he meet at school.
Of course Jesus is my mediator.
That is why JW was NOT for me from a young child.
I realized at a middle schoolers age, this didn’t feel right in my life. Too many questions that I kept to myself and didn’t confront because I was just a kid.
Sooooo glad I followed my gut.
I love my Christian beliefs and that Jesus is my savior and redeemer.
He walks beside me every day!
You are so right they have a way with words. I often wonder why the new testament only apply to the anointed. When I learned that the new testament is for me also and that how I benefits my life change so much for the better and is getting better each day. God is Good all the time. When you go to a judicial hearing you find out Jesus is not your mediator because you have to go through the elder to get Jehovah forgiveness like the saying goes the head of the fish stinks first.
I don't attend anymore the meetings of Jehovah witness's, but when I did I went to the spanish congregations. From what I'm hearing of the english meetings,the people, and everything about them are very different. They have always taught that Jesus is the only way, to God ...the spanish congregations when someone gets disfellowshipped, the brothers go out of there way to go visit, encourage, study, and make the person feel that everyone makes a mistake and helps them ....
You all are a great example to those who are thinking "what do I do after I leave the truth?" Continue to do research. You will be amazed at all the information out there.
First step.. Stop calling it "The Truth"
AMEN to that.
It's scary for them and most of them end up just hating religion -- they need more -- they need help.
Going to meetings 1982 in my mother's womb this one surprisingly got past me for a long time until October 13,2022. 2:15am . The Watchtower Magazine has said for a long time ¿ "If someone gives you a glass of water & they put just one drop of poison in it would you drink it? Watchtower went on to say ¿ "If a Religion has just a little untruth does Jehovah view that Religion as acceptable "? Not the Catholic or Watchtower or Websters dictionary which says a person leaving a Religion is a Apostate. I did a ton of Bible research & the Bibles definition of (Apostate is as follows) Apostate: One who knowingly practice false spiritual teaching and or knowingly practice false worship divination/magic , after knowing God & his WORD . The Catholics redefined the word Apostate to their benefit & the Watchtower has even further used & abused the use it. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for this information. I hope that I love all humans & I would like to think that I do !!! Just like Jesus died for all of us to have chance. So all u observers please PRAY for people that don't know to learn better to repent apologize and get much more humble × 1,000 so as to have a chance. Believe it or not some times pride can blind us all it a tool the Devil has used since the first humans. Then the man cast blame on the women who God gave him , not humble enough to take responsibility for his actions. I hope that when Jesus comes to judge weather it be 5 minutes from now or 200 years from now . I hope I can have the humility to take responsibility for my own actions weather I get saved or not .And fall to my nees and say I'm sorry. I feel that if that happens sincerely my chance of eternal life may go way up. But also to try to live a clean & loving life right now. Those that fead me , those that covered me ,those that came to see me incarcerated. If u have done it to the least ones it's as u did it to me . Practical COMPASSION
Studying the bible brought me out of the organization as well.
Right! I told my husband this he said they do not teach this. I showed him the Watchtower article and he has been silent every since lol! Most JW'S do not even know what they are being taught!
Another great video guys! I've said it then and I'll say it again, NOBODY NEEDS A RELIGION, AN ORGANIZATION, A CHURCH TI BE SAVED CAUSE THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN INTERPRETATION. ALL WE NEED IS TO PRAY TO JESUS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR TO TEACH US THE TRUE WORD OF GOD THRU THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Maria Cerv ; no what you need to do is on Utube look for ; Christophe Hitchens , Richard Dawkins , Sam Harris , Dark Matter 2525 , The Atheist Experience and Carl Sagan ~ You're Welcome
Richard Voyer No thanks, I'm happy with my faith.
@@mariacervantes5077 typical , blind to the fact that your god is a monster . No matter how cruel he is , you'll worship him .
All faith means is accepting something without any evidence , how is that a path to find the truth . Faith is not a virtue it's gullibility .
Richard Voyer you can say all you want, what makes you think I'm going to listen to you??? If you're happy in your world let me be happy in mine. By the way having patience is a virtue, having faith it's in your heart...
Born in and I would NEVER have chosen to be a JW myself, that's the TRUTH‼️ Thank you for your channel and hello from California...🌤️
Same here.
Growing up with these types of teachings was so confusing. It made it feel so impossible and difficult to know these deep things. They make us think we can’t think for ourselves, thank goodness we have the anointed men to do the thinking for us! I’m so relieved to finally be out. I’m so happy to know these aren’t difficult truths to comprehend, when they aren’t being colluded and twisted to fit a certain agenda!
Ouuww ! That was fantastic. Jesus is the Mediator, the Redeemer and Judge, of all mankind. GB want to steal that.
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Great video and one that all those Jdubs who don't even know their own religion should listen to.
I know...my mom's been in since 1974 and just found out that according to JW's, Jesus is not her mediator. She had to check with an elder, and sure enough! But since the Gov. Body said it, it's okay. (I don't have an emoji with crossed eyes, or I'd post it here). They say it every Memorial talk...am I (the apostate) the only one who listened? It would appear that they are like children who hear their parent's voice but aren't listening to a single word that's being said.
Wow, great vid. And what is that background music at the end??? I love it
It's sad really. How does one make a defense for the faith within them when they don't even know what their belief system even entails?
If your beliefs are what someone else tells you they are, then you don't have any beliefs.
You aren't driving your car you are catching a cab so to speak.
Jehovah Witness teachings change like a clock.
Worship JESUS.
"Let all angels of God worship Him, that must include Michael the chief Angel hence Michael is not the Son of God". Watchtower November 1879 P 48.
"To worship Christ in any form cannot be wrong"
Watchtower March 1880.P83.
"All creatures in Heaven and Earth shall worship Jesus as he worship the father" Watchtower August 15th,1941 P252.
'It is unscriptural for worshippers of the living and true God to render worship to the Son of God Jesus Christ".
Watchtower November 1st,
1964 P 671.
"But when he again brings his first born into inhabited Earth he says I let all God's angels worship Him" Hebrews 1:6.
New World Translation 1961 Edition page 1293.
JESUS CHRIST SAID HE IS THE FIRST AND LAST AND THE ALMIGHTY..
REVELATION 1:8.(kjv)
That's Jehovah said it not Jesus, the Bible that you read it YHWH change to Lord.
You presume it's Jesus, but actually it's not.
frez jack You should pray on it. I found the truth about Jesus this way.
WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS VERY SIMPLE, CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THE FAITHFUL AND DISCRETE SLAVE'S SUPPOSED INSIGHT OR BELIEVE THE WRITTEN WORD. NOT A HARD DECISION!!!
"WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS VERY SIMPLE, CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THE FAITHFUL AND DISCRETE SLAVE'S SUPPOSED INSIGHT OR BELIEVE THE WRITTEN WORD. NOT A HARD DECISION!!!"
> It's a very hard decision when you're told that you can't understand the Bible independent of the faithful and discreet slave organization.
It's a very hard decision when you're told to trust in Jehovah [and the faithful and discreet slave] and do not lean on your own understanding [of the Bible].
It's a very hard decision when you're told to avoid independent thinking, which translates to meaning that the Bible doesn't mean what you independently think it means. Rather, it can only mean what "Jehovah's Organization" says it means.
It's only an easy decision for minds that have not been corrupted by, or have escaped from, mind-altering Watchtower propaganda.
Andy Sandoval the very fact that he said if you read the Bible alone then you will not believe the watchtower's interpretation proves that the two contradict each other at times. And I don't know about you but I would rather choose to listen to God than men.
When I left over thirty years ago I didn't understand that teaching about Jesus either and it never set well with me. It was just five years ago someone at work asked me about it that I started researching and the realization of Jesus, who he is and why he came, the real truth unburden me from alot of bondage. I don't believe that many jws know or really care to know. They are satisfied following the gb.
Thanks for a great channel, Greeting from Copenhagen DK.
Thanks for stopping by
JT
I always prayed through Jesus as our mediator. As far as I know, we all believed that Jesus was our mediator. It was only after I left the JWs that I found out that Jesus is viewed as the mediator to the anointed and not to the rank & file.
JWs think that they are having the best education but in reality they don’t know anything.
GREAT speaker and orator brother Mark Martin is......I wish he had been giving some of the "Sunday talks" in Chicago when I was growing up........lol...
Great video guys!!….It's amazing how many JWs don't even realize this and yet when you try to explain it to them, they think you're trying to push apostate information on them. It really shows how many don't really even study their own publications!!
“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”
1 Timothy 2:5 KJV
I am currently meeting with an elder of a local Kingdom Hall on a regular basis. I think the hardest part for me to understand is how can he or any JW, who reads and studies their Bible so much, not realize that what is plainly said in Scripture is completely opposite to what the WTS teaches. It's not like it's close to the Bible. They are completely mutually exclusive to one another.
This is so sad, so many on the road leading to distraction and don’t even know it. I can only hope that they wake up before it’s too late for them to develop a genuine relationship with our Heavenly Father. The organization contradicts the Bible at every twist and turn.@
Melody M ; Why would you want to develop a genuine relationship with somebody who has lower morals than you ? I don't get it 🤔
It's no secret that he's barbaric , egotistical , extremely sadistic , blood thirsty , jealous , childish , violent , incompetent , hates women , abusive , torturer...moron !
Why a flood ? He could have went "poof" you're all dead but no not the most high and powerful and loving and intelligent and omni this and omni that , he drowned everybody instead , what a dick .
Religions brag about how god helps them with many different things even heals the sick , but when it comes to money god can't help them only their followers can help them with money , weird hey ?
I have a plan says penis brain ; torture and kill my son for starters .
DISGUSTING
That's why the bible 🤮 simply just cannot be true .
That barbaric stone age infantile fairytale should be put away with zeus and all other gods . It's a ridiculous story !
Let's say the story is true , then what ? We worship the idiot even though we know he's evil , see either way we're doomed .
I was a third generation j w and I never new this. Thanks brothers
When two JW Elders came to my door I asked them if Jesus is their mediator. They said that he is and that they could not pray to Jehovah if he was not their mediator. They also said that they were not of the anointed.
Since then I have asked this question to every JW that I meet on the streets, they all say that Jesus is their mediator.
The Governing Body must be aware that JW's consider Jesus to be their mediator and yet I have yet to see on JW Broadcasting or in any recent Watchtower literature a statement saying that Jesus is not the mediator for non-anointed JW's. It looks like this is a topic that the GB and Watchtower are shying away from.
Praise God there are people finding Jesus in spite of the erroneous teachings of the JWs! May more come to know there is a God of love and avoid stumbling over any stone of stumbling!
loved the collaboration with Mark.
Their own publications constantly contradict what they say on a regular basis. Why anyone would believe what they say without doing their introspection behooves me.I love his statement about using his own bible to study himself out of the organization. I used the general library to do the same.
If JWs only knew what the Watchtower''s teachings are. This teaching is just another reason to walk, to RUN away from that (religion?).
Mark, You being OUT of the organization could very well be adding to the success of your marriage. Thank you for sharing your story AND your research. Peace!
Great video. JWs still pray in Jesus name.
Yes they just pray it with their mouthnot thier heart
I started feeling that the elders themselves were blocking my access to Jesus& Jehovah because if you criticized the elders you automatically was speaking ng against Jehovah because they were appointed through holy spirit.So it was the elders,the GB,Jesus,Jehovah so their were hoops to be jumped simply to get access to Jesus&Jehovah this was my feeling& my understanding.
Jw leaders and there winsome words slick as can be
i read that article he mentioned and it didn’t make any sense to me! thanks for this video
Link please?
Well I enjoyed that, thank you.
Great video. A fine presentation. Spot on!
I had never heard of Jesus not being our mediator either. Has anyone applied John 10:8 to this? I'm truly in awe at the unique translation of the NWT, which reads "All those that have come IN PLACE of me are thieves and plunderers."
Whereas I've compared more than 20 bibles and they all say "all who have come before me." Based on the context I actually feel "in place" is more accurate... but I just think it's amazing these words are chosen while the Governing Body teach they're our mediator! They have in fact put themselves in place of Jesus!! And... they are thieves and plunders. They steal and kill and destroy.
That was a perfect explaniation and thank you too Mark.
This is a very excellent topic to share. Thank you.
You guys are my favorites. I am from and still live in South Africa.... I relate to you bros in a major way. thank you and keep this up. I have helped so many of my friends by using a lot of your videos as a base for the conversations I will then have with them.... when I left this cult in 2016 I lost everything and everyone id none for 31 years but people are waking up IN NUMBERS
Wow! Amazing, so glad to hear that you are doing a fine work in South Africa. Keep up the good work!
Great as always, keep going guys!!!!!!
I am a Christian and listening to you is helping me learn to JW's. 💗
Mark Martin, you moved up like most free people by nepotism. Totally Cooperate American, when I was Baptize Jesus was the mediator, it change over the years. When my daughter got baptize it became organizational.
Lady C, JT, & Daniel, thank you very much for these most informative videos. It is a very good thing for an individual to be psychologically emancipated, but it is also very good for these emancipated individuals to realize that freedom doesn't mean that they should forget all the fine instructions that the bible has outlined for us. Some of the respondent Ex-JWs to your emancipation videos seen to think that just because they are now no longer a part of the JW cult that they are now free to do whatever comes to mind not realizing that our actions still come with consequences. God has given us many good instructions on how we can have a successful life, free of disease and heartaches. Please make a video emphasizing these important issues. Thanks.
If Jesus is not the Mediator, who could help us pass the prayer to Jehovah God. And what is the point of Jesus being a High Priest as mentioned in Hebrews 4: 14 - 16 and Hebrews 5: 1 - 10.
This is a fabulous video! Thanks guys!
Surely now every KH prayer must clearly state, it is to be sent first through the faithful and(descrete)slave.
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top notch
Wowwww!!! WOW! All the time I was a JW (over 33 years) and I had never thought of it this way! 😳 I have ALWAYS believed that Jesus was and is my mediator. I remember the articles mentioned and honestly I didn’t get that that was what they were saying! How blind was I? You’re right when the emotions are high logic is low. I don’t think that’s the exact words you used but that’s they idea. Oh, yes, I remember hearing “in a sense” I also remember asking what on earth that means, but fear was so strong.
Jesus is my mediator. I believe in Jehovah and that his Son died for our sins. I also believe that if my prayers are to be heard by Jehovah, they must pass through Jesus as a dog for our sins. I do not agree with everything the organization says or does, but my faith in Jehovah and Jesus is steadfast. The word of the Bible, which is Jehovah's word, always precedes humans.
Thank you and I love y’all
(I left this comment also on Part One.) I am a bit confused. I came from the so called world to study with Jehovah's Witnesses and became one for a very long time . Left in 2013. Was in it for about 20 yrs. I always heard them say that Jesus is our personal mediator between us and God each individually. Having said that, I do not doubt people's personal stories and experiences as I have had my own in this faith. This is why I left.
I would like to thank all of you for a great video. I find it interesting at 6:25 that the definition of a mediator fits the Governing Body more than it does Jesus for the average JW.
Brother Martin just made my point at 9:28 lol. I should have watched the whole video before commenting.
Thank you!!! Thank you!!!
Thank you! Great points.
Great video. Such an interesting experience. They can not get around those questions.
Thanks guys great video as always :-)
Excellent video guys 👏👏
There is no GREAT CROWD yet because nobody has come out of the GREAT TRIBULATION yet, and no one is standing before the throne yet!
There is one faith and one hope.
Here's another question to add to the list. And if you feel you know the answer to this, PLEASE by all means answer, and this includes JT. If Jesus IS my mediator, does this mean that Jehovah's Witnesses that are not included in the 144.000 are incorrect in NOT partaking of the emblems of wine and bread during the yearly Memorial Service?
Marisela Ramirez great question - here is the thing at the end of the day God Is going to make the final call
As a jw we spent so much TIME worrying about what God was going to do- think about it
Why were always trying to determine what God will read in ANY persons heart
as they say it's ABOVE MY PAY GRADE
That why we say. I prefer to have questions I can't answer RATHER than answers I can't question
I pray to myself! 👁 now that 👁know what 👁 am! They hide everything from US!🤸🏾♀️🕳
Hide and seek game I agree
This representation has strengthen me even more joy and I am happy for the decision I made to resigned from the Organization of Jehovah"s Witnesses. Thank you so much for your time. Keep going strong and the grace of the Lord be with you all.
Love this video
It's so refreshing to hear your background story that you were an actual JW and you actually served in the capacity you so you know the ins and outside of the organization and you know how delicate this subject can be to even bring this up with family who are indoctrinated by the JW's teachings as how I was being brought up as a JW myself and finally waking up, your story is an inspiration for people like myself thank you for sharing, I've always respected your commentaries on these video, but I surely can really appreciate your work more so now after hearing your background story thanks again God bless you.
Thank you ,what a great video.
Keep em' coming! So happy 👁 left after 30 yrs. 👁🔮🕯📿 ASÉ My Brothers! Thank you!💜
This is the reason I left without looking back.
I thought t myself I Jesus Christ is not my Mediator then all my efforts to e pleasing to Jehovah was in vain. All my sacrifices that I made while in the Organization as a requirement of God was in vain.
Everything became futile if Jesus Christ isn't my Mediator to Jehovah God.
I love your voiceover voice
Zyneak thz
Interesting. Shared part 1 and 2.
Wow, great vid! What is the background music at the end? I love it
Yay!!! Another insightful video. Please make more regularly.
Lots of love from South Africa
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Hey guys, keep up the good work. It's funny how there are two Mark Martin's. The other is a former Adventist standing for the truth as well. 🕊️
Enjoyed the video very much. Logical and critical thinking go together. Keep them coming.
This is shocking! I always thought Jesus was the mediator for all sheep
Jehovah is god
Yes Mark!! The logical conclusion to Watchtower's claim that Jesus is only mediator for the144 000 and it is by *association with them* our prayers can be heard by God, is that the Governing Body are our mediators! They have literally taken the place of Jesus. I don't subscribe to Watchtower's other claim that revelation refers to our time in particular. But my goodness, they're a *literal example* of false men coming in Jesus name saying "I am he"!!!
ANY RELIGION THAT TEACHES JESUS IS NOT YOUR LORD & SAVIOUR, IS OF THE OCCULT.
I have family members who are JWs. I’ve been having some conversations about the NWT. I am trying to get them to realize that they must think for themselves. I am a Christian. I have been watching your videos for several months now. My question to all of you is the following. What do you consider yourselves? Are y’all Christians? Do y’all still read the NWT? Thank you for sharing your knowledge and critical thinking.
Y’all go watch the video titled “ambushed by elders”, I believe ex jw analyzer uploaded it. I can’t remember exactly which one, but they both are good. In the video the ex brother asks 2 elders if Jesus is their mediator. They say of course. These brothers have been in the truth for decades, and are elders, and even they out out dated due to the org flip flopping and changing things. Go watch those videos, there’s even one with a CO and elder.
Mind blowingly bizarre. 1 Tim 2:5 even in THEIR bible does not give any sort of exception. Not even in their footnotes. Like you said, JT. if someone is ONLY going to be a lawyer *IN A SENSE* then you would be foolish to hire that lawyer who isn't going to have your back to the full.
Sadly, *new light* on the issue of the *ANOINTED* says that the anointed don't even know who they are. Well if THEY don't know who they are, how are the rank and file supposed to know? And if the R&F don't know, how can they follow these unknown anointed in order to have a second hand mediator?
MESSED UP!!!! 🚽
I've always loved your videos JT! Your videos prompted my awakening from that evil cult. keep it up!
Bolaji Oriyomi just keeping it REAL
JT
I agree! You to should be as the Bereans. What is truth?
He is right. The watchtower has completely removed Jesus and replaced Jesus with the governing body. The only time they mention Jesus is when the memorial comes around. I was an elder for 3 years before I willingly disassociated myself.
He's not only our mediator... He's God Himself. Praise the Lord, while there is yet breath in you.
Praise Yah for you brothers. So many have been lead to destruction by falling prey to the organization who are the epitome of wolves in sheeps clothing. HalaluYAH!
Im asking this question because my mother has been awitness for over 50 yrs and this is the first I am Even aware of the info in this video. If you or anyone for that matter is not aware that they are a chosen 144,000, how would you know if Christ is or isn't your mediator?
The governing body needs to be thrown behind bars there pure evil. If there was a hell they would deserve to burn in it. How can you love money this much power and greed
Rev 20:10 says the false prophet is going somewhere to get tormented forever. They can fool everyone into believing there's no such eternal torment, but they forgot to take that line out of their Bible like other scriptures they took out.
That's so true
WT GB do seem to have a "coveting" problem. They must have missed that last OT commandment.
Just because of the fact that we now acknowledge and expose the lies concerning Jehovah Witnesses, do we now disregard the truth also that we learned concerning the worldly churches and their doctrines? Lies advocated by these churches, have they now suddenly become truth, and should we now accept them and its okay to join these churches? We need another place where Ex-JW can go for spiritual food and not go back to the worldly churches
Thank you Critical Thinker, I needed that ❣️your videos have given me courage to stay strong (re your ❤️ on my very first TH-cam comment since my leaving)
Go deeper
I know this is an old video but I'm curious what your thoughts are their newest publication that warns the congregations not to be stumbled by " Jesus" ?
I am confused, are the JT and Lady Cee and Daniel religious or god believers? i am just wondering because they talk about critical thinking and the god approach or jesus doesn’t hold if you use critical thinking...nonetheless, i really like your videos...
This is a channel to help JWs reason about WT teachings, to think about & examine what is being said/done.
It isn't a channel to espouse a particular belief system over another.
cool... i love their channel don’t get me wrong, i am just saying it cause i am not a JW anymore cause i decided to think critically about genesis...critical thinking doesn’t have a set of beliefs...i agree with the motive of the channel...thanks
We have found that after 10.20.30 yrs of having someone Preaching to them, most jw leaving dont want or need someone else preaching to them. Get out of the burning building and you can worry about your Shoes later
jt
A question to wtbts ,If Jesus is not our mediator ,then how do i get my sins Forgiven?
JT I hope you read this comment. What is the biblical principle that is being used? How I didnt realize this teaching is embarrasing to me.
That teaching is my far the most disrespectful teaching to Jesus Christ that could ever be taught. Jesus earned through suffering that title of mediator and to deny him that is blasphemy! What worse is nobody seems to capitalize on the 2nd half of there statement "by being in association with the little flock, the other sheep receive benefits that flow from the covenant" basically by being a JW who listens and does what the Governing body says to do, you'll be saved! WOW! What a load of crap! Psalm 146: 3, 4: Do not trust man to whom no salvation belongs!"
The GB have placed themselves in Jesus position. According to their NWT of the bible, 2 Corinthians 5:20 reads "Therefore, we are ambassadors SUBSTITUTING FOR CHRIST, as though God were making an appeal through us. As SUBSTITUTES FOR CHRIST, we beg: “Become reconciled to God.”
Today the Governing Body claims they are the mediators now and they follow the bible when the bible clearly states Jesus is mediator for all mankind. How does this not make every JW wake up.
Someday they will be praying to the GB
I think it's beautiful that your wife follows Jesus and God the way think it's reasonable and correct. Yet it's very confusing for some. ExJW.