Broker and Dispatcher try to Negotiate Rates… 🫠💵
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2023
- What a headache!!
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Broker offers to pay $1300 out of the $4300 he booked it. Brokers are big part of the problem.
Realize that the scheme is actually a scam. Now help to abolish it and help replace it with something that's actually reasonable.
Exactly. Or like I have a direct shipper from houston to dallas paying 1200 legal load flatbed but all brokers only laying 700 800. Fuel went up they pay now 1350 1400 and brokers still at 800
Don't accept the low rates. Stand your ground on your price and that's it. We all have to do stick together
Problem is there's always some idiot that'll take it. It doesn't matter if 90% stick together if the other 10% will take any rate at all
@@k.eubanks6473 yeah you're right. I wish the teamsters had a strong hold on the trucking industry again like they did. I think things were a little more violent back then if you didn't comply
Realize that the scheme is actually a scam. Now help to abolish it and help replace it with something that's actually reasonable.
Or when a driver say he’ll be there four hours late. Teamsters may ass
Drivers can be shit heads too
Eliminate the brokers, and the problem is solved. (or at least most of it)
Realize that the entire scheme is actually a scam. Now help to abolish it and help replace it with something that's actually reasonable.
@@01mustang05 Abolish insurance companies as well. They're more crooked than the brokers. All insurance
Let's stop all trucks for 1 week nation wide
Don't go through brokers. My company goes directly to manufacturers and gets good contracts
That's smart for both sides, im a freight coordinator for a chemical company, and we save so much money this way
Good but how to find manufactures and how to deal with them ?
@zafarabdujabborov2317 well you want to deal with freight carriers, not manufacturers
@@RuStOlIuM420 what u mean i am literarily asking how to find
I've NEVER run freight for a dollar fifty.... Ever... and you don't need to either!!!! Stand your ground and if you end up sitting for a few more hours to wait for a good load do it! Don't have a mindset of scarcity. There are plenty of good loads out there if you know the markets and don't get in a big rush
Hi if u need new dispatch speaking russian, turkish as well let me know
It is the time to start a protest against these greedy brokers!!!
Brokers can’t do anything without us drivers, be firm, hit them hard, they have no choice. Pay up or get out.
In 10 years it's gonna be like the dispatcher is gonna ask for $1800 and the broker gonna be like " best I can do is $50"
Shut down all trucks for just 24 hours, and watch 😮 the rates will go up so fast that you will forget your name.
There aren't enough smart people to do that not end the entire scam altogether. The majority is too harmed to stop the fundamental core problem causing the majority of human caused problems. That being child abuses.
I doubt that
@@danemania001if we had an outright halt on truck freight, our economy would collapse faster than you could say "oh shit"
Even if you eliminate the Broker and go directly to Shippers the problem will still exist. Another Owner Operator or Carrier can underbid and then who do you think that shipper will choose 🤔. Alot of Drivers like to complain and not negotiate thinking people will just do the right thing. Owning a truck is more than just driving one, you can't think like a company driver when you assume the O/O seat.
I owned a truck for 24 years, Stop hauling cheap freight! End of discussion.
If carriers follow the ‘freaking law, the problem is better mitigated!!!
Carriers needs to negotiate under a brokerage authority..then use their carrier Authority to run the freight…
Shippers rarely work and negotiate with Carriers because carriers are NOT insured, license or bonded to negotiate rates with shippers..
@phillips4284 what planet is this on? A motor carrier doesn't even need a Broker to get freight directly from a shipper. All Carriers need ia an MC & USDOT number to operate in the United States. All Carriers are required to have updated insurance coverage in order to operate. Brokers insurance only provide coverage in addition to that of Carriers should their limits be exceeded.
I reject low rates and I just started 2 weeks ago. shame on carriers taking cheap loads
How is it si far being an owner operator? I'm looking to buy my own truck.
@@kirkbrown2147 don't do it rates are very bad u will regret it.
Hey, I am a former driver working with a coworker who got his own truck and small fleet now and I will have a full dispatching service available soon. I have experienced and witnessed the same issues and it inspired me to get involved on the disptching side to coordinate and facilitate better for the carriers, bc this market is insane how people are being treated and what people are willing to put up with. If you need dispatch, even if i'm only one of your options, i'll be glad to work with you
lessons need to be taught. double brokers need to be ostracized. Truckers need to refuse all loads below an agreed minimum threshold. It starts with all trucks parking for 7 days. Implement minimum load rates, and hold violators accountable.
Get a van and haul 3k lb maximum of freight for 1 dollar per mile than running a semi 15x heavier load for 30 cents more. Smh...
Lately some of the brokers don’t answer their phones or respond to emails either.
As I’m watching this video literally it’s the reality 😢my dispatcher can’t find nothing good to return to Chicago…
In Wa state, diesel is $5 a gallon. My freightliner gets 5mpg on a hood day. My truck consumes a dollar a mile in fuel alone. 30 cents for overhead and driver pay. Nope. $2.50 a mile or its not worth my time.
If everybody says no then they have to raise the rate is pretty simple That's how capitalism works. They're not going to let the load sit there for the rest of their lives
Stop taking the crap. And stick together.
He can sure raise that price once it's 3PM and he needs a truck by 4pm lol
my company (BH92 Trucking inc) we usually follow the weekly market and which areas are hot
last month Florida was real hot and Michigan with their flower loada
right now Houston, Laredo, Phoenix all work pretty decently
we just try to avoid the east coast
which is a lot harder than I made it out but we manage
Why avoid the east coast if you don't mind me asking?
It's large carriers. A multimillion dollar company can afford to undercut everyone else in the beginning but when it's time to renew the contracts and price goes up, they'll back out and expect other companies to run at that undercut price
Yeah these dang megas hire a bunch of kids at 30 cents a mile so they can afford to do that kind of stuff and the kids don't know what? They're worth so they take what they can get
@@k.eubanks6473hat would you say the market pay is for a company driver right now? I'm getting 50. I used to get 65 last year but apparently the market got worse since then that they had to reduce our pays.
EDIT: and i doubt the company is that big either.
I'm not normally one to go against the free market, but I think there needs to be a minimum rate set by the government or at least local government so these brokers can't get away with charging under profitable margins.
If you get this government involved we will be screwed for sure, careful what your asking for.
Work vocational jobs. There’s a whole world with dozens of smaller industries in trucking. I don’t get the full rate my boss charges of course, but my services cost $200/hr.
hazmat? hell the garbage co in my town is only paying $25/hr.
@@yaboiii64 that’s average, i used to do garbage trucks. you can make anywhere from $25 to $45 an hour where im at. good job, worth the money
@@Credit_Fraud_Committer I get it dont get me wrong but i have been denigrated and derided by too many stupid ass "bosses" that i would damn near rather die that go back to being a underling. Its that bad I dont want to go back to that EVER again. When they hold that paycheck over your head and then use your feelings towards your family as a bargaining chip to garner compliance. FUCK THAT. Sickens me that they make more money, "work" less hours and get away with all kinds of garbage behavior that if i did the same i would be shown the door. It is getting harder and harder to have a positive outlook in life and its the only thing I want but people seem hell bent to make sure that never happens. I know im in a angry rant but you have to understand that i have had some very piss poor "leaders". I dont want to disrespect myself like that again which is why i got my DOT authority.
Brokers need to be regulated
sounds like brokers are the problem f them
that's the reality and that's sad, what im trying to do to keep moving freight for at least 2$ a mile, 2 last week I got to an area where was 1000 loads and 100 trucks, got 3.50$ per mile for dryvan53 to the Washington state, but from there ofcourse you going for 1-.1.30$ a mile
Hopefully it got better soon, nothings we can do much about it, they rates will go up one day.
the broker in this scenarios sounds like a wall street stock broker haha
Name your price and stand by them. These shippers will have to learn. YOU HAVE TO MAKE MONEY.
At a 1.80 , you lose money, need at least 2.50 to be profitable
There is no end to this because to much saturation in the market, and theirs always a few that will take this cheap freight, thus the sogga continues...when 100s go out of business due to hauling cheap freight maybe their might be some betterment...I guess driving free is the new deal these days. We certainly are all being royally porked when buying groceries, and everything else that's a necessity.
It's not a driver shortage they just lower the salaries
Why doesn't the Union organize and "fight" instead to hire DC lobbyists with Union dues for total trucker income tax as just One low 8 percent flat tax on trucker yearly income. Instead of 40 to 50 percent current total taxes, just use union "dues" to lobby Congress for a way lower tax rate.
The "fight" should not be Union versus Mgmt. Instead the fight is Union versus Congress to lower taxes. These so called wage increases will be eaten up with dues and higher inflation while cutting overall demand for UPS services. Sean O. got played and duped by Congress for not blaming Congress for the high rates.
8 percent flat tax and the Union drivers would gain immense wealth instead of the illusory "wins" in current contract that will be devastated by higher taxes, union dues, and inflation. Sean O. fooled the Union workers and folded like a cheap suit in not demanding a low 8 percent flat tax!!!!
don't accept it no body should accept it. !!!!
Everyone should shut there trucks down for a week and see what happens...
Surprisingly the broker didn’t hang the phone 😂
That other people take the cheap rates in Phelan service but it’s getting tougher and tougher.
Stop telling people rates are that low. They're not. Just because those rates are posted doesn't mean anyone is hauling it
Did carriers forget q1-q2 of 2022? When the rates were $5-7/mile? It works both ways
Gas prices included 😂
You can only run so lean, there's a limit to cutting expenses. After that it's time to park it.
I took the local job at home being home every night and ignored a brokers in the dispatchers when they called my phone
Just wonder how the rates Would be if Canadian trucks stayed in Canada and only moved freight in there own country ??? As the same for Mexico trucks…If your questioning this, just ask how much Canadian owner ops pay for truck insurance, compared to US based owner ops.
Simple stop taking cheap loads. If everyone stopped doing it the prices will go up
On DAT I have loads attempting to broker at $1.05-1.15 a mile. I can only thing this is due to people accepting those rates and causing everyone a headache
Large carriers drove rates down then complain 😂
They're riding in paid for equipment with no emissions. 😅
It is ridiculous these rates ,, there needs to be a law nothing under 2.50 a mile bec😢 there are expenses that brokers don’t care about and when there are no more trucks that is we the brokers and customers are going to scream for help. There needs to be change and fast 😢
That is because people are taking the loads really cheap if everyone stop taking cheap freight then they will pay
Quit running for brokers. They literally took 65% of load pay last year. Tell them you want to see the negotiated rate comminutions between them and the shipper
And then aptly get blocked by every single broker, if you ask brokers for anything, they'll put you on a do not call list and when you need that run to get back from a particularly bad area you're going to have to deadhead instead of at least getting your fuel covered
Keep taking the cheap freight. When you go bankrupt, the number of trucks go down. Then the rates will bounce back.
doubt it. it's the OO that are accepting cheap freights because at least they make their salary
@@ajx8571 this isn't the first time this has happened. It's supply and demand. Too many trucks, the rates tank. Many go under, reducing the number of trucks. Then the rates go back up. Supply are demand applies to everything, not just trucking. So you can't say it's an O/O thing. It's not just O/O's going under. Some big companies are in trouble also.
Yeahhhh it's to a point of fixing your truck or paying your rent. Pretty sad these days.
Market misconduct just like Market manipulation can take place on any market exchange including but not limited to ride brokers. The security Exchange Commission is tasked with the enforcement of transparent broker operations and license enforcement when it comes to the stock market. Escrow brokers positions that require a licensed from the federal government and they're required to oversee the transaction of property changing titles such as a sail or death of owner. Brokers are supposed to manage these funds between the client and recipient using a money market fund which is regulated by the security Exchange Commission however because they are unlicensed and do not follow any regulations they do not use money market funds and therefore evade a large tax sum
You know as I sit here reading these comments everyone saying they don't carry cheap loads I mean obviously somebody taking it because there getting covered ridiculous they made this high dollar industry into a welfare industry
Is anyone in charge of protecting us looking into things? Do we have anyone protecting us?
We need a dispatch packt to mever go below 2$😂
So I see a lot of minimum rate comments should there also be a maximum rate?
Find yourself a cartel contract… pays well and the freight is steady
How do I become a broker?
Become your own broker. Run your trucks on waste vegetable oil or hydrogen and make your own fuel
“Leave it.”
Hell naw! Everyone need to say no!
love it
should start it from intrastate carrier.
Soo the brokers are taking the markups?
I don't even have my cdl yet, but I'm gonna say this: You gotta be pretty stupid to accept these ridiculous rates, and you are doing your fellow truckers a disservice by accepting them. You can't possibly be making money at $1.50 a mile.
Why would a dispatcher need to sign the rate con?
Shut it down.
They don't deserve our services
Best idea ever sell truck close authority sell pnuts on corner
oh wow !!!!!!
I had to pull something at 1.55 a mile just ti get put of Florida 🙄
Brockers are leeches on our backs.
Yeap I'm Transition to a broker soon..Etc
So dont be an owner operator, got it 👍
Cut out the middle man.
Don't take it.
The country is dying around you. It starts like this.
Set the rate of commission for the brokers
Or broker transparency. The ratecon needs to show the amount the broker is getting from the shipper
How bout this just putting it out there let the government handle the truck industry just like they do the military problem solve
You trust the government?
They're not even doing a good job regulating it. 🙄
Everybody just has to refuse the low rates stick together
The government regulates the heck out of the trucking industry - the only reason you have 'brokers' and 'rates' that you can even meaningfully use without being a teamster or a mega freight carrier driver or something is because of that regulation.
Never go full retard...
No Chicago
Who is making the money ?
I cant wait till the tables are turned im going to screw these brokers so hard
I live in New Jersey, are you guys hiring
National strike will fix it 😊
Build that wall and drain the swamp. TRUMP 2024, 2028, 2032, 2036, 2040
Hi renon I need to learn how to calculate rates
Divide the price offer by the miles, let’s say for example you are been giving an offer of $3500 and the miles is 1500 miles there for you say $3500 ➗ 1500 miles =$2.33…so $2.33 is your rate per miles
@@hilarynmeri thank you, is there anything else you can add on? I still have to learn more
Ads income on the trucks.
I've seen 0.97 cpm
Kick brokers
This whole video is BS from the gate
Prebook
I parked my truck today and done with this BS
Ban brokers
Tell randy I said hi
How do I become a broker?