BLIND TESTING THE CHEAPEST MIDI KEYBOARDS!
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I swear you must have had to cut out 3 hours of (questionably) witty banter to get this video so concise and smooth. Fun hang!!!
But did you had the real knob time afterwards , if you know what I mean
Way to take the most expensive one grant.
Get a bluetooth pedal, maybe you can use it for sustain
Hey Grant, where can I get my hands on a hat like yours? 😁
BeNormanYo I actually got it when traveling in CA. It says Mineral King CA on the side. I got it from a small tourist shop when passing through. Not sure how to find them online.
Cool tip for those with ableton but don't have pads. Record tapping on the table with mic. Right click, convert to midi. Turns out to be way more responsive than most pads.
Hugely underrated comment
Sorry, who the f**k is Albert Einstein? Did you mean Adam Davies?
What a cool trick. Does that really work? I guess it's good when you want those more extreme dynamics in your drums but it should take a lot of time to do the whole drum set.
@@PaulTheSkeptic Yeah I usually tap out a few bars of what I want the grove of the song to be, so its not all in time with the grid and has some feel. and then you just use those notes to write the drum beat as you would usually.
omg that's a cool idea
Andrew: Hey I blind test some new keyboards!
Stevie Wonder: Hold my beer
*beer spilling*
IDrandomguitarcovers I was your 69th like. Remember me.
@@francescoideo9330 this is the guiltiest laugh ive had in a while nooooooo LMFAO
Actually made me chuckle
Sub to meamlous if your under arrest of the first half of this your under arrest of footage from the basement Johnny Mullins
Imagine some EDM producer doing a live performance and you bluetooth connect your Korg to their Ableton and play your own solo lmaoooo
SAVE THE MILKS yes
Lol
Plot twist: He's playing recorded music
@save the milks The opening synth-drums to Never Gonna Give You Up could work too. =^p
@@ChaosRayZero on my electric drum set it has the exact synth drum toms that are in never gonna give you up so whenever I record with my bros I always just play the intro
Hey Andrew!! Thank you for having me over to hang and check out keyboards with you! It was great fun. I’ve been carrying that Korg keyboard literally around the world since you gave it to me when shooting this and have gotten great use out of it! Turns out that Bluetooth is the most convenient thing ever.
Great choice!
OY ITS HIM
Noticed you guys used the MK2 not MK3 for Launchkey Mini, was wondering if you got to check it out, one thing that’s interesting about the MK3 for me is that it supports MIDI In/Out and actually added a Mod/Pitch Strip
Anybody tell me about the latency with Bluetooth and Ableton? Any lag at all? Just seems like a dream come true if it has little to no lag with wireless control
Is there a bluetooth sustain pedal or do you just make do with the button?
STATS:
-------------Keys---------------
AKAI MPK - 6/10
Alesis V25 - 8/10
Aturia Minilab MK2 - 9/10 (Winner of Keys)
Novation LaunchKey Mini MK2 - 7/10
Korg Nanokey Studio - 7/10
Axiom Air Mini 32 - 5/10
-----------Pads----------------
Axiom Air Mini 32 - 5/10
Novation LaunchKey Mini MK2 - 8/10
Korg Nanokey Studio - 9/10 (Winner of Pads)
AKAI MPK - 7/10
Aturia Minilab MK2 - 7/10
Alesis V25 - 8/10
-----------Knobs--------------
AKAI MPK - 6/10
Alesis V25 - 9/10 (Tied for Winner of Knobs)
Aturia Minilab MK2 - 9/10 (Tied for Winner of Knobs)
Korg Nanokey Studio - 7/10
Axiom Air Mini 32 - 6/10
Novation LaunchKey Mini MK2 - 6/10
--------Pitch/Modulation---------
Akai - Joystick
Alesis - Wheels
Arturia - Touch Strips
Korg - X/Y Pad
M-Audio - Buttons
Novation - None
-----Sustain Pedal Inputs-----
Akai - Yes
Alesis - Yes
Arturia - Yes
Korg - No
M-Audio - No
Novation - No
-----Bonus Features-----
Akai - Arpeggiator, Looper
Alesis - 4 Reassignable Buttons
Arturia - None
Korg - Bluetooth, arpeggiator, chords, scales
M-Audio -Transport Controls, more keys
Novation - Ableton integrated buttons
-----Build Quality-----
Akai - 7/10
Alesis - 9/10 (Tied for Winner of Build Quality)
Arturia - 9/10 (Tied for Winner of Build Quality)
Korg - 8/10
M-Audio - 6/10
Novation - 7/10
What a guy
Nice
The hero we need.
king, thank u
Not all heroes wear capes, some carry their compact midis
"But also, like, you're not going to bring a sustain pedal to an airport or coffee shop."
"Yeah. Actually I would."
"Oh. OK"
*Laughs*
I really do! In the wise words of Christian Henson... I’m a sustain slut.
The deadpan seriousness in which he said that was so funny.
To anyone still looking for advice - go with the Arturia. The main purpose of these types of midi controllers will be the keys in >90% the situations, and you really want to have nice keys. I hurried up and went with the Launchkey mini MK3, because of the fancy utilities and many pads, and it has dog shit keys, you can't even play what you want with it. The 8 pads on the Arturia are more than enough, and the keys are the best out of all of these controllers
Except for knobs that are utter garbage and there are 16 of them.
@@PhreaSpirit Eventually, Arturia keystep could even be a better choice for beginners, it has 2 and a half octaves, compared to just 2 that others have, which mind sound insignificant, but it will give you just enough space to add extension to your chords comfortably
what do you think on akai mpk mini mk3?
Arturia Keystep has the worst keys Ive ever used, mushy and inconsistent
@@Will-qx9vm sure maybe, name a better one in the $100 range then
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"Seriously?!"
"No"
😂😂😂
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No.
I know... so cold. ;)
Was gold 🤣
Fun fact: 3 of these keyboards are from the same parent company
Akai, Alesis, and M-Audio
Which company?
Jellirby the parent company is called inMusic
@@jellirby5015 Avid Technologies
I use Alesis
The best place to get a midi keyboard is Goodwill, the employees don't know how much they're worth, so some really nice ones sell for around $30.
Got mine from a chazza rubbish bin
"Doesn't even have a headphone port, wtf"
Taylor Handleton ha!
that is a good idea i will see if i can buy something next time i stop by to drop some stuff off
lmfao
This was super helpful. I love the plain and simple decision at the end. A lot of people we’ll say “well the best one depends on what you’ll do with it” and yeah, obviously. But it’s nice to get a straight up answer on which one is your personal favorite.
Arturia Is definitely the one that gets more department covered, it's a seriously versatile keyboard.
I'm a huge fan of the minilab ... for me it was the entry product, and 100% did the job I needed it for and more (the knobs really add to the expressiveness). I liked it so much that after a failed detour with a FB marketplace-acquired novation impulse, I eventually upgraded to arturia's Keylab mkii; which I am soooo happy with. Arturia can *build*
I have a kelab 49, and everytime I had an issue or question, the arturia guys were extremely helpfull and quick to answer. That goes a long way.
Yeah, I wonder why they didnt test the Minilab Mk3 instead of the Mk2, it is such a good midi keyboard imo
@@Yuzuki1337 Huh? There is no Arturia Minilab Mk3... you got some insider info bro?
Definitely. And they have the best software too.
Grant: you can’t live without MIDI keyboards in a production world
Skrillex: lol
Even Martin Garrix
@@bub303 not necessary
bub you don’t really need midi keyboards to produce music. But they do make life easier tho
ahh Skrillex, ....to dub step ,what Bugsy Malone is to the Mafia (oooooo edgy lol)
deadm4us : lol
I think it should really be mentioned that the Arturia comes with Analog Lab Lite, which is a FANTASTIC program with a ton of desirable keyboard sounds of all types. Also, *Pro Tip* : As an existing Arturia customer, you will get a ton of good deals on both software upgrades and new software. I upgraded to a full version of Analog Lab for $30.
No its not, it is laggy and eats up all the cpu
@@Will-qx9vm Never had that issue but I can imagine it would be CPU intensive.
Shocked (in a good way) at how quickly you guys ran through these midi keyboards. Happy to see Arturia Minilab mk II do so well. Thanks!
Really appreciate comparative reviews like this from an experienced perspective. Thanks!
I’ve been using an Alesia v49 for 2 years, it’s fantastic and everything still works great. Totally worth it for someone on a budget.
This was super helpful, I'm a long time classical piano player and been writing on FL studio for 20+ years since damn near original Fruity Loops versions back in late 90s-early 2000s. I'm gonna go with the Arturia :)
Happy composing
Thanks so much for making this. I've been wanting to get into music production for years, I just never had enough money to start. Now that I'm able to get everything I need, this was super helpful! It was overwhelming trying to figure out which controller to start with on my own, so thanks again! :)
My alesis' pads often trigger twice and apparently I'm not the only one having this issue
Same, cant get them boys to work properly :D
Same for me. It seems you have to hit them very hard.
ditto, ya just gotta get used to smacking those pads. I recall having some weirdness with its velocity when I first got it too. Apparently also a known issue that can be solved with some settings that should really be the default from factory. Besides those two things I love it.
@@MalariaSucks10 the thing is that the alesis editor crashes for me so I can't edit anything lol
What works for me is use 2 fingers to hit them. It seems like they press or release a bit unevenly. It makes it harder to do fast stuff with them if that's what you need, but for my use it fixes the problem. Small price to pay for an otherwise great keyboard, at this cost something has got to suffer anyway.
*He brings sustain pedal to coffee shops and airports*
TSA; WHOT IS DIS.
SUSTAIN PEDAL
@@jjh8367 the thingy that makes the piano tones go smooth and stay longer
@@jjh8367 It holds the note, so it will continue to play after you lift the key.
@@flixxvvs Incorrect. See my above reply.
@@rubberscuomo ye thats kinda what i meant
What an fun way to test these out! Definitely made it more entertaining to watch. I think also when you remove how you see it versus the sound and feel of it that it can bring a different persective than what you would have had before. Great video!
Such a great video. LOVED the blind test! You sold me on the Arturia. I've been agonizing between that one and the Akai!
I own the Minilab and I'm absolutely in love with it, but Novation have really stepped up their game with Launchkey Mini Mk3, it has touch strips like Arturia's Minilab and also some impressive DAW controls
I loved this video, is super honest. I purchased my first midi controler a month ago and I opted for Arturia (the exact one you have in this video). What I actually like about it, beside being superb in design and features, actually it is sold along with other 3 things included in the price, the Analog Lab4 (which is amazing) Ableton live 10 lite and UVI Piano. Oh, and the wood inserts are so modern. 👍🏻
I love how straight forward this is, another great vid, Andrew!
This is my first time watching one of your videos, I smiled at the very first 10 seconds. Love the vibe, voice and vid structure. 👏🏾🔥
I got a Keystep last year and I'm never going back, it just feels so good to play. Arturia really knows how to construct their hardware.
I'm not sure if you've done a video like this Andrew but, a great video would be taking a controller with a number of pads and knobs and show how you personally go about mapping those controls in Ableton to best suit your producing.
I'm quite happy with my Arturia MiniLab MkII. The keybed is really good for such a small one and the knobs, pitch and mod works great.
The only thing I'm not all that happy about is the pads. They miss a lot of triggers.
But overall it's a really good keyboard! I still prefer the keybed and build quality of my old Roland PCR-1. But the Arturia has so many more useful features.
Plus it looks great!
Alternative title: “two guys talk about knobs for two minutes”
👀
i actually missed a bit more info about the knobs :(
A thing you forgot to mention was the included software. I got the arturia keyboard just a few weeks ago, and I'm seriously impressed with analog lab lite. This keyboard and software single handedly made me become an arturia fan boy
I have had the Arturia since like 2 months and it’s great. I highly recommend it.
Nerding out is always great when it comes to music tech. I’m currently building my studio desk to fit the Alesis VI61 which is the big brother of the one you reviewed. It’s currently on my Amazon wish list so it was great hearing your thoughts since I want I for composing work, video games etc...
I bought a V25 a couple of years ago, because it was the cheapest and also I had heard good things about the Alessis drum kits, seems to have done pretty well in the shoot out, and being that I am a keyboard noob...still I think it was a good choice. Good to hear some more competent Keys musicians affirm my choice, thanks guys
“Honestly on some of my hardware synthesisers I’m like, that is a nice knob”
As a British person, I’d ask you to reconsider your phrasing.
I believe that was the joke
What would you prefer? Willy?
He's a knob head
Cole Smith the comment was also intended as a joke, dear chap
I read this at the exact time he said it.
I think the clickiness of those Korg keys would drive me nuts. The Arturia looks really nice though, and I think I'm going to make that my first MIDI controller.
You have quickly become my favorite TH-camr and have helped so much in my understanding of music. I appreciate all the hard work you put into your videos keep it up man! You're a legend
Andrew is awesome isn't he?!
Literally needed this video today. Perfect timing.
Don't forget the software that's included with the Arturia, including Analog Lab Lite. That was the deciding factor for me.
I have an Alesis and the Arturia, and midi mapping in Ableton is instantly usable with the Alesis, but with the arturia knobs they are a little more of a pain! :)
love your videos, best part you get in quick don't waste time and your stuff makes sense, cheers!
What a great review. I'm glad someone as well known as you made this video, as it's really quite informative as to what you get for what you pay.
I personally use M-Audio's axiom air mini 32, the one shown on video and it's helped me so much in my time as a musician. It's not an amazing experiences but it's affordable for someone doing music entirely as a hobby.
Liked this vid! Btw I'd recommend Arturia Keystep, its my favorite. Its the only small one with aftertouch.
Thank you man, I finally made my decision between minilab mkii and launchkey mk3 just from hearing this 9:53
I bought the Arturia MiniLab MKII a while back mostly for those 16 encoders! Pretty ideal for controlling volume and panning for 8 channels of while mixing in a DAW (or for live performance). Though not ideal for finger drumming the horizontal layout of those 8 pads make them perfect to act as mutes per channel.
Bro that first edit of the guy other guy popping into frame is so smooth that’s amazing.
8:04-
I have had the Novation Launchkey for a while now, and due to certain circumstances, i did run over it with a car (accidentally).
Suprisingly, it does still function like I got it new.
wtf 😂
One important thing that they missed is that the akai has 2 banks per its 4 different modes so it’s like u have 32 drum pads and knobs but u need to switch banks.
This is such a great video! Ive been shopping around for a digital piano or MIDI keyboard for my home studio for the purpose of composition and experimentation and that Alesis looks close to ideal, especially with your appraisal and hoo boy you cant beat that price haha
Thank you for this video! I actually started making music related videos because of you and my first time in front of camera was me talking about the Arturia MiniLab. Thank you for being an inspiration!
I'm using that Akai one - your' review is pretty spot on :P
Not the best but pretty decent / got fairly quickly used to the feeling of the keys & pads / the short knobs I don't mind :)
You should make a whole song by sampling only “you suffer” by napalm death.
everyone like this
oh thats the 2 or something second song right?
Thanks for this video, Andrew! It helped me a lot to choose my midi controller. I bought the Alesis V25 and it is the ideal one for me. Thanks for your videos, they are the best. Greetings from Mexico!
A love your conversation at the end. 🤣
The Arturia is the best one I've ever tried. I love playing it.
This is an awesome giveaway, wish I had been here a year ago! Also this is a great video, perfect for people just starting to produce
Thank you for making this video so straightforward
As someone who owns two Novations Launchpads, I don’t have to worry about the pads on my Arturia MiniLab MKII. I’m extremely happy with my choice of MIDI keyboard over a year later and it was cool to see Andrew liked it the best.
Also, the Analog Lab software included is pretty awesome.
also, the Arturia software package is great.
4:17
Somewhere before that, you ate the cookie... I see you Andrew!
Ya lol
This was incredibly helpful :D ! Love your channel!
When your still rocking an Axiom 25 from 10 years ago along side your newer equipment... (it was my first Midi keyboard controller and it holds a special place in my heart, also still works perfectly).
Best free midi device.
My laptop keys😅
I mean the korg is a sweet design tho!😮
if you're on a macbook you can even use the trackpad as an xy pad (or as sliders) with the right app
Tea
@@ragminka i do not know of "tea" care to explain
@@reytunez Tea pain , the singer
Grant should do audio books. Smooth voice, my dude
Loved the theme to 'knob time'. Good work!
i've had the minilab mk2 for few months now, really loving it!
yo Andrew! first time i've been this early so hopefully you'll see this! watching your videos has really helped me continue being motivated in producing! thanks for everything!
I wish you would've posted this a day earlier, I just bought the arturia.
theres a comment right below yours saying that you can edit thr arteria's sensitivity with "controller soft" idk what that means but i hope this helps
@@soslunnaak oh okay. Thanks
Soslunnaak Morokei prolly controller software if I had to guess
Using their "MIDI CONTROL CENTER" software (available on their website) you can alter how the MK2 is set up.
You can assign notes, midi channels and functions to the pads and keys, as well as velocity curves, etc.
I used it to assign MMCs (Midi Machine Control ) to the pads so I can control my DAW's Transport (Record/Stop/Play/etc) as the MK2 doesn't have built-in Transport controls.
The Asturia has awesome software
Damn - your editing chops are on fire!
Cool video.
I own the Arturia for a year now and totally love it, it's the size of a old laptop, so it fits perfectly in the laptop pocket of my backpack, since I use the ipad to make music I don't need that pocket for anything else anyway.
I'm glad to see that my month of research on 2 octave keyboards brought me to the same conclusion as andrew.
arand4 What do you use for an iPad DAW?
As someone that composes orchestral stuff, that Alesis looks really nice, especially for that price.
That thumbnail makes him look like a CGI PS3 character with perfect plastic skin, I mean Andy is a beautiful man. 😘
He looks like Kenshi from Mortal Kombat
I got the alesis 49 key awhile back when my m-audio stopped working. I’ve been really happy with it.
Thank you Andrew! Recently got a small bonus at the job and was already looking at the Alesis, butbwas having doubts. Perfect timing for this video to come out.
4:47 THAT WHEEZE
That alesis is surprising, it's definitely on my radar now
Andrew P. Roberts I bought the V-61 and it’s really good although I dropped it a while ago and now the mobs are very stiff. Buy a good case before!
Just recently found your channel, love it. Thanks for the amazing content. 🙏🏻♾💙
Loved the video helped me decide on the alesis ! Thanks a bunch
me today: finally, my midi keyboard arrived
Andrew: good for you, these are probably better value
I mean ok I ordered a 61 key keyboard, but still
New insult: "You're a shallow knob! The shallowest knob I've ever met!" LOL.
Deoends on purpose. I see your point with alesis however if you already have full keys then smaller keys is best as second keys on desk or for on the go.
I just ordered the novation but mk3 which pretty much fixed the missing features.
Cool review though. Thanks
I think I'm in love with that Alesis, I love the design, it seems to be the perfect beginer keyboard, I think I'm buying it!
I'm gunna get it too :) If you already have it tell me what u think!
I was actually fairly surprised at your thoughts on the Alesis. It was my first midi keyboard (outside of full size keyboards) and when i went into guitar center, I bought it because if was the cheapest of the keyboard that fit my regulations (which was literally just full size keys). but i was always curious if i would have preferred one of the slightly more expensive keyboards. but hearing your thoughts made me a little more confident in what i chose
I don’t know where to find it, I looked it up and it was $300 aud ($214 usd). Is there a link for it or anything?
After watching this, im really happy that i bought an Arturia yesterday.
Loving the bottle of Laphroaig in the background. Good choice!
Thanks for the video! Thinking about picking up the Arturia Minilab soon for my music.
stop
knob time
Jose Mejia not funny didnt laugh
You really "hammered" that one home...
I'm still living without a MIDI board.
This is just what I needed thanks bro❤❤
I have the Alesis V49 and it's great! I don't play the piano, but this MIDI keyboard makes music production much easier and fun!
Rewatched the 300,000 note song still love it
Can you make a 2,000,000 note song?
^-^
This is literally the most convenient timing for posting this. I am literally looking right now for a budget keyboard.
This was super helpful, thank you so much!
I've got a launchkey mini
Pad 2 triggers for no reason when I'm hit some other pads.
Solved the problem with some neoprene on the bottom.
Still a great buy for small desk keyboard. Small, neat portable. Fits in my computer bag.
Is Novation launchkey mini mk3 or the akai mpk mini mk2 better - if you work with ableton live10? (why?)
on ableton you can assign all the knobs and pads of a midi keyboard to almost every adjustable parameter available in your project (assuming ableton recognizes them). so i think it should mainly come down to which midi keyboard has the better workflow for yourself.
launchkey mini mk3 has integrated ableton functions that you would have to set up yourself on the akai mini mk2. true, both can pretty much do the same thing if you really want them to, but the big benefit to the lk mk3 is that you don't have to spend the time assigning everything when you get it. you can just plug it in and have the full support. it also allows you to have complete control over session view in ableton. you don't have to have your hands on your laptop at all and can create an entire song in a matter of minutes using only the launchkey mini because of this. also important for you to know that Andrew didn't review the mk3 in this video, he was reviewing an older model and the mk3 has a ton of great improvements. Launchkey Mini mk3 is 100% better for ableton live 10, but both are good mini keyboards that are pretty similar.
I'd suggest looking up some videos of people using both and see which you think you'd like more.
source: my roommate for the last year and a half uses an mpk mini mk2 that I've had plenty of experience using, and I recently bought a launchkey mini mk3.
Can you make like addition to this video with Novation Launchkey MK3?
It has:
-Touchstrip mod and pitchwheel
-Sustain pedal input
-Arpeggiator with "deviate" and "mutate"
-Fixed chord
-Midi output with jack
And amazing Ableton support
Michał do you have a launchkey? I have the 49key mk2 and think it’s pretty awesome but the pads are hella stiff
@@zb7561 Sadly, no. I was thinking about buying mk3 but I change hobby.
@@michabaryczka568 to?
@@vlusky_husky making maps in CS:GO
i was looking into the akai mini play, with the built in sounds. i think im gonna buy it
Best video ever seen for these types of content.....luv×♾