For those interested I also did 19 maps without crop rotation and blocking blue and purple. Lifeforce total was about the same, but you cannot target farm a colour so I ended up with a lot less yellow than during crop rotation. Sample size is super small so not much to determine from it, but I do think if you want a specific colour crop rotation is better
i did alch n go harvest 1 week ago with the doubling scarab. Just opened map and rushed to the grove. Was making around 10d/hr without any altars, map clear time was around 2-2.5 mins. Prices haven't fluctuated much so it should be still viable for anyone wanting to do a low investment harvest strat that doesn't require any thinking. Just remember, the hideout is lava. The slower your clear speed is the less profitable this strat (or any for that matter) becomes.
@@gi72w3rg i mean if youre struggling with alch&go harvest rushing (and youve checked to make sure nothing bricks your build) your build needs some serious work
@@gi72w3rg what sort of build are you looking? for you to have played 3 and still not enjoyed any i can only assume they were sorta the same in terms of playstyle
@@yeppboi First i played manastacker, but was kinda stuck at some point (kinda my fault), then i switched to something with molten strike but feels like most of the builds need alot of gear and my last try was DD (not coc) feels a bit cluncky somehow. Wanna something tanky that still has enough damage for bossing/mapping (mapping dont need to be super fast).
Hey just wanted to say I've been watching your stuff since 3.17 or 3.18 - your LS Raider saved my league and I've been a fan ever since. Thanks for always having transparent and straightforward content that speaks to the average player. A series like this shows people that they can achieve big goals without having to do whatever that latest broken fuckery that all the streamers are pushing. Keep it up!
I just want to say i really appreciate the style of your videos. I am a long time player and most of what you present i kind of know but just the way you edit, the kind of attitude towards currency as trying to be optimal but semi casual, and your tone just makes me really enjoy your content. I think poe needs more creators like yourself so keep pushing these out!
I want to add that the Einhar's memory of Sacred Grove is a good Low investisment option. You make around 50% pure profit per memory (assuming a memory is around 120 chaos and Juice price is stable)
Thanks for great content. Just small potential room from improvement on atlas tree: instead of %3 increased scarab nodes you can just pick up some of the %4 increased scarab nodes instead. I also keep picking scarabs are less likely to be common variants but idk if it does anything.
You only need to kill the boss for 14th and 28th invitations. Just spawning mobs gives you the completion to alters. Saves a lot of time against those silly map bosses that take ages to spawn in.
never let anyone give you shit for just doing it how you feel like it , i saw empy's recent video about ritual and it looked terrible but i just respec'ed ritual because i always wanted to try it. its also easy for my spectre build and im having fun, did make 5d the second map off a fractured jewel but yeah like its whatever play however you think you will have fun
Yeah I like ultimatum and ritual but the are both pretty bad for money, however you will always get some big drops which makes it feel good. Magefist always runs ritual and he seems to make decent i Currency you just have to give it time and learn what sort of rewards to look for.
So i ran 20 maps(all +8 mod corr) with same atlas tree without crop rotation , results are 25.1k yellow juice 24.7k blue juice 21.2 red juice 10 map i ran with 8 mod corrupted scarab instead of harvest and used harvest map device 10 map i ran with same scarabs + %8 quant map device Crop rotation seems %10 better in total juice amount and better for targetting yellow juice for sure. But i dont know its worth to hassle, checking yellow crops left and right such, hard to say actually. I will try 20 crop rotation later to see if i like running crop rotation later on
@@StyleOFBeyond i had pretty bad altar luck on 3 5 maps id say but still with or without crop rotation harvest gets you currency. Oh i also cant click - cold Light res and end charge reduce regen altars aswell
Its funny we are going same strat completely this leauge - i dont do boss rush I am doing this without crop rotation and out juice loot seems similar or non crop is better ill check 20 map loot today and see actually
It's really inconsistent though with the price of the scarab. 20k+ lifeforce one map and then for a span of 5 or 6 in a row losing money due to bad crops.
man wish i could get harvests like these :/ running blue altars bunch of modifier effects and as many quant altars as possible 250-300 quant yet i usually only see 3-4 lifeforce drops of like 150-200 each runnin doubling and cornicopia cause i never felt like crop rotation was worth it might try with awakening and that next time instead
Qty has diminishing returns once you get 100-200% and pack size becomes more important. In 19 maps I had 5 harvests that gave me over 5k juice so maybe the magic pack size sextant makes a big difference. This league it feels like crop rotation is the way to go
I saw LilyDS allocate all the 'reduced chance' nodes for Crop Rotation. Not really sure which is better. I've had some great 3000 lifeforce groves but also quite a few 200 ones with all of them picked.
My best was 13k and had a couple I did not bother doing as only 3 plots and no yellows. I wonder the logic behind reducing everything maybe there is something I am missing
Still seems like good returns for low investment, I've never been a big juicer for mapping so it's in my wheelhouse. Lots of upgrades to buy this league with all the bonkers rares!
@@Taiyri I think u gotta break down and price those things 1 by 1 and hope people buy some of them in bulk. I can see it taking me hours to sell mine and all of them won't sell. I think you will have a hard time selling a full tab of random ones for sure.
@@Taiyri you will never bulk sell tabs as people only want specific corpses. You need to learn over time which ones sell and which don’t and then just pick up ones you can bulk sell. I tend to ignore increased res, ele, mana and attributes along with +1 level and all the 5% change to not consume corpses. I pick up all the rest
Using Kirac missions is essential to building out your atlas, you just buy all the incompletes from his shop then doing a mission resets the shop. If you're really struggling, shoot me your ign and I'll give you a bunch of maps 👍🏻
Like blindorize said kirac is key early on. Take every single kirac node until you have completed your atlas. You get your 2nd tree and 50 points and 3rd tree at 100 pts so your first tree can just be your map sustain tree. Along with kirac take every map node on the tree. I even took all the small nodes for 2% change of a connected map drop
I heard that quantity has diminishing retunrns on harvest. I heard the first 70% has significant impact and then starts to become less and less important and after 200% quant you barely see any difference in life force. And that pack size is linear and always impactful. Does anyone have any knowledge on this?
@@FuzzyDuckzy for sure There is, but this seems very good for my style of playing and gonna give it a go and gives a steady income , i really enjoy that you cover so many things that inspire in this game 👍
crop rotation is good if you do your atlas tree properly for it, you need to go up one plants' node and still spec into the 25% of each colour node to balance it back out so youre not stuck with just 2 colour. You can also use scarab of awakening and take the imbued harvest map device with the chance to not wilt on atlas tree to make the most out of it. I'm making roughly anywhere between 1.5-2div a map in just harvest juice. If you do something else as well as harvest in your maps you can make bank and just sell your harvest juice at the end of a farming session for a big dopamine hit of divines.
Yeah selling harvest life force at the end of your session does feel very satisfying. I used to pair deli with harvest but deli orbs are worthless this league so not sure what to pair with it. I guess necro nodes are my second league mechanic
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For those interested I also did 19 maps without crop rotation and blocking blue and purple. Lifeforce total was about the same, but you cannot target farm a colour so I ended up with a lot less yellow than during crop rotation. Sample size is super small so not much to determine from it, but I do think if you want a specific colour crop rotation is better
i did alch n go harvest 1 week ago with the doubling scarab. Just opened map and rushed to the grove. Was making around 10d/hr without any altars, map clear time was around 2-2.5 mins. Prices haven't fluctuated much so it should be still viable for anyone wanting to do a low investment harvest strat that doesn't require any thinking. Just remember, the hideout is lava. The slower your clear speed is the less profitable this strat (or any for that matter) becomes.
Yo, can i ask what build you used for that? Guess cuz harvest can be rly hard for a char thats not rly tanky. But thats thanks alot.
@@gi72w3rg i mean if youre struggling with alch&go harvest rushing (and youve checked to make sure nothing bricks your build) your build needs some serious work
@@yeppboi Nah im not struggeling, just looking for new/other builds, cuz i tried 3 diff builds and all of them are not so my taste, thats why i asked.
@@gi72w3rg what sort of build are you looking? for you to have played 3 and still not enjoyed any i can only assume they were sorta the same in terms of playstyle
@@yeppboi First i played manastacker, but was kinda stuck at some point (kinda my fault), then i switched to something with molten strike but feels like most of the builds need alot of gear and my last try was DD (not coc) feels a bit cluncky somehow.
Wanna something tanky that still has enough damage for bossing/mapping (mapping dont need to be super fast).
Hey just wanted to say I've been watching your stuff since 3.17 or 3.18 - your LS Raider saved my league and I've been a fan ever since. Thanks for always having transparent and straightforward content that speaks to the average player. A series like this shows people that they can achieve big goals without having to do whatever that latest broken fuckery that all the streamers are pushing. Keep it up!
Thanks for the long time support glad you enjoy the content 👍
I just want to say i really appreciate the style of your videos. I am a long time player and most of what you present i kind of know but just the way you edit, the kind of attitude towards currency as trying to be optimal but semi casual, and your tone just makes me really enjoy your content. I think poe needs more creators like yourself so keep pushing these out!
I want to add that the Einhar's memory of Sacred Grove is a good Low investisment option. You make around 50% pure profit per memory (assuming a memory is around 120 chaos and Juice price is stable)
Thanks for great content. Just small potential room from improvement on atlas tree: instead of %3 increased scarab nodes you can just pick up some of the %4 increased scarab nodes instead. I also keep picking scarabs are less likely to be common variants but idk if it does anything.
You only need to kill the boss for 14th and 28th invitations. Just spawning mobs gives you the completion to alters. Saves a lot of time against those silly map bosses that take ages to spawn in.
loving all your vids been making currency with grave crafting cause of your ring video
never let anyone give you shit for just doing it how you feel like it , i saw empy's recent video about ritual and it looked terrible but i just respec'ed ritual because i always wanted to try it. its also easy for my spectre build and im having fun, did make 5d the second map off a fractured jewel but yeah like its whatever play however you think you will have fun
Yeah I like ultimatum and ritual but the are both pretty bad for money, however you will always get some big drops which makes it feel good. Magefist always runs ritual and he seems to make decent i
Currency you just have to give it time and learn what sort of rewards to look for.
So i ran 20 maps(all +8 mod corr) with same atlas tree without crop rotation , results are
25.1k yellow juice
24.7k blue juice
21.2 red juice
10 map i ran with 8 mod corrupted scarab instead of harvest and used harvest map device
10 map i ran with same scarabs + %8 quant map device
Crop rotation seems %10 better in total juice amount and better for targetting yellow juice for sure.
But i dont know its worth to hassle, checking yellow crops left and right such, hard to say actually.
I will try 20 crop rotation later to see if i like running crop rotation later on
+8mod 40 maps =total 210k lifeforce no crop rotation full clear map and all altars for quantity
@@StyleOFBeyond i had pretty bad altar luck on 3 5 maps id say but still with or without crop rotation harvest gets you currency. Oh i also cant click - cold Light res and end charge reduce regen altars aswell
Its funny we are going same strat completely this leauge - i dont do boss rush
I am doing this without crop rotation and out juice loot seems similar or non crop is better ill check 20 map loot today and see actually
Yeah I am going to do the same and give non crop rotation a go and see what the results look like
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Got me on This coment haha
Awakened Horn scarab is super op, made around 9-10 div/h. Got like 30k total lifeforce in 1 map before
It's really inconsistent though with the price of the scarab. 20k+ lifeforce one map and then for a span of 5 or 6 in a row losing money due to bad crops.
man wish i could get harvests like these :/
running blue altars bunch of modifier effects and as many quant altars as possible
250-300 quant
yet i usually only see 3-4 lifeforce drops of like 150-200 each
runnin doubling and cornicopia cause i never felt like crop rotation was worth it
might try with awakening and that next time instead
awakening is a lot better with crop rotation.
Qty has diminishing returns once you get 100-200% and pack size becomes more important. In 19 maps I had 5 harvests that gave me over 5k juice so maybe the magic pack size sextant makes a big difference. This league it feels like crop rotation is the way to go
@@FuzzyDuckzy true that May be it
When i did a few 8 mod Maps with twice my usual pack size i felt a Big difference
I would take shrines to your strat do add more monsters for more influence shrines
Yeah I wanted to try and fit them in just wasn't sure what I wanted to give up
Also did 20 maps myself, nowhere near as much money though. I am just eh on crop rotation. I brain off sometimes. :F
You can just remove crop rotation I found it was less profit but not by a huge amount and I do think I was.quite lucky with my loot in the maps I ran
I saw LilyDS allocate all the 'reduced chance' nodes for Crop Rotation. Not really sure which is better. I've had some great 3000 lifeforce groves but also quite a few 200 ones with all of them picked.
My best was 13k and had a couple I did not bother doing as only 3 plots and no yellows. I wonder the logic behind reducing everything maybe there is something I am missing
Still seems like good returns for low investment, I've never been a big juicer for mapping so it's in my wheelhouse. Lots of upgrades to buy this league with all the bonkers rares!
I have 3 full quad tabs of corpses I need to take the time to sell the damn things.
Same
I can't seem to unload mine at all and I only have one quad tab. Even with 50% of ninja price, no one seems to want to buy them in bulk
@@Taiyri I think u gotta break down and price those things 1 by 1 and hope people buy some of them in bulk. I can see it taking me hours to sell mine and all of them won't sell. I think you will have a hard time selling a full tab of random ones for sure.
@@Taiyri you will never bulk sell tabs as people only want specific corpses. You need to learn over time which ones sell and which don’t and then just pick up ones you can bulk sell. I tend to ignore increased res, ele, mana and attributes along with +1 level and all the 5% change to not consume corpses. I pick up all the rest
@@FuzzyDuckzy increase res is the one I buy lol pick them up for me ign: SkyNecroBlaster
Hey Fuzzy, any tips on how to sustain maps without buying them? I'm stalled on T11s
Using Kirac missions is essential to building out your atlas, you just buy all the incompletes from his shop then doing a mission resets the shop. If you're really struggling, shoot me your ign and I'll give you a bunch of maps 👍🏻
@@blindorize Hey, thanks very much on the info and the offer. I'll hard invest into Kirac and see how i get on.
Like blindorize said kirac is key early on. Take every single kirac node until you have completed your atlas. You get your 2nd tree and 50 points and 3rd tree at 100 pts so your first tree can just be your map sustain tree. Along with kirac take every map node on the tree. I even took all the small nodes for 2% change of a connected map drop
I heard that quantity has diminishing retunrns on harvest. I heard the first 70% has significant impact and then starts to become less and less important and after 200% quant you barely see any difference in life force. And that pack size is linear and always impactful. Does anyone have any knowledge on this?
Qty definitely has diminishing returns. Pack size is the best way to juice as it gives more monsters to plots
why are you not using eater of worlds + quant? do you take quant on searing exarch as well? can you explain
I do explain in the video
@@FuzzyDuckzy okay sorry, missed it!
Ok so harvest it is!
There's probably more profitable things to run but I like how quick and easy it is to sell
@@FuzzyDuckzy for sure There is, but this seems very good for my style of playing and gonna give it a go and gives a steady income , i really enjoy that you cover so many things that inspire in this game 👍
Do you have a data without the Crop Rotation? Wanted to know which is better With or Without in this League. Thanks.
No I have not tried without. I might do a 20 map test to see what the difference is
@@FuzzyDuckzy That would be very helpful to all of us.. Thanks and more power!
crop rotation is good if you do your atlas tree properly for it, you need to go up one plants' node and still spec into the 25% of each colour node to balance it back out so youre not stuck with just 2 colour. You can also use scarab of awakening and take the imbued harvest map device with the chance to not wilt on atlas tree to make the most out of it. I'm making roughly anywhere between 1.5-2div a map in just harvest juice. If you do something else as well as harvest in your maps you can make bank and just sell your harvest juice at the end of a farming session for a big dopamine hit of divines.
Yeah selling harvest life force at the end of your session does feel very satisfying. I used to pair deli with harvest but deli orbs are worthless this league so not sure what to pair with it. I guess necro nodes are my second league mechanic
why is red not blue？
I explain in the video
what did you do to farm 8mod maps?
Cartography corruption scarab
@@FuzzyDuckzy cool what strategy did you pair it with
1st
What is this build?
Lightning strike champion
You sold the gloves for 14 div, not 15. You want me to watch your 22 min vid, but I can't even trust you to count to 15.
Lol no loss to me. Bye karen