Modifications Every Owner Of An Echo CS-590 Chainsaw Should Do

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  • @brianquigley7336
    @brianquigley7336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Best mod for any saw is a sharp chain.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Indeed. Don't take the video to mean my chain wasn't sharp. I was cutting pressure-treated pine. It is super dense and gummy...

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, captain obvious 👍

    • @brianquigley7336
      @brianquigley7336 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Icutmetal Not so obvious to some. My unmodded saw has outcut many modded saws just because they weren't running what I would consider to be a sharp chain.

    • @matthewbeaver5026
      @matthewbeaver5026 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@brianquigley7336agreed! And a brand new 'fresh' chain ain't that sharp either.

  • @kaboom362
    @kaboom362 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I had absolutely no idea that mod'ing your chainsaw was a thing. I've got a 59cc Tomber Wolf.. Thanks for sharing!

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You bet!

  • @chuckybaby1973
    @chuckybaby1973 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The detail with explaining what you do, demonstrating how to perform the mods and the testing is so well done, I thought I was in a classroom. You could be a small engine instructor, that's how good you are, I'm very serious.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. I have been told this before. I like teaching.

  • @aportilla007
    @aportilla007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Man, that saw went from Timber Wolf to Timber Beast! I have the 590, and I'll be getting the upgrades at some point. Thanks for this.

  • @dentondunn4346
    @dentondunn4346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Just sent my cs590 to Iowa Performance Saws and got a muffler mod done to it and had the limiters removed and had it tuned. It runs way better than it did, I'm impressed. I also put a O-ring inside my air filter to keep anything from getting inside the carb and I'm really satisfied with the good job Tim Baur did to my saw. Very happy! Idk why but it even starts better, took about 4 pulls before the work was done and now it starts in 2 pulls, fires on 1st pull everytime and starts on 2nd pull everytime

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the best air filter seal mod here.... www.ghtuning.com/product/cnc-machined-and-upgraded-chainsaw-parts/

  • @mikebennett5442
    @mikebennett5442 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    If you won't show us how what's the point of watching just saying

  • @reddragon5477
    @reddragon5477 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just ordered the flywheel key and air filter kit. Should be here monday. Cant wait to mod the muffler and install the parts to see how much it wakes the saw up. Thanks for the great video

  • @nathanielbonde7716
    @nathanielbonde7716 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    An awesome mod is swapping the plastic handle for an aluminum one from a 620 echo. Otherwise if you're on a budget you can put on a stihl ms460 handle for about $44

  • @danny-uu8hc
    @danny-uu8hc ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not worth it for me, but I Def don't knock anyone enjoying tuning engines or any hobby for that matter. We need people like this in society.

  • @rydaug79
    @rydaug79 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Was looking to buy my first saw. Was trying to decide between Husq and Stihl. Was about to buy a Husq 450 because thats what they sell at Lowes and that is the closest hardware store to my house so I thought it would make it the most convenient for parts. Went to look at saws there and almost bought one but thought I'd do a little more research before pulling the trigger. Ace Hardware sells Stihls and Lowes sells Huskys so thought what does Home Depot sell? Echos. Looked them up on TH-cam and people rave about them in videos and in the comments. Glad I walked out of Lowes without buying. Bought a 24" 590 later that night and it will be delivered in a few days.

  • @biglouy
    @biglouy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a small world. Saw the gearhead decal and PSA decal and was like damn I probably know this guy. It's THE gearhead Matt. Ran your tunes back in the diesel days. Now I need chainsaw mods and come across this video. Hell yeah man.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome Back.... what saw are you working on?

    • @biglouy
      @biglouy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattr66 CS-590. Just emailed you about some parts 👍

    • @jsmith83400
      @jsmith83400 ปีที่แล้ว

      What are the upgrade numbers. I am at 3000 ft.

    • @jsmith83400
      @jsmith83400 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok here is a question. I’m having issues starting it. I put new gas and mix in. What else should I be doing. I haven’t used a chain saw in 10 years.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jsmith83400 once it is tuned correctly you choke it and pull till it pops once then push the choke in and then keep cranking. Once it fires, it will be on high idle and then blip the throttle after 5 seconds at high idle.

  • @Bigdgay
    @Bigdgay ปีที่แล้ว

    I showed this mod to my boyfriend and he loved it

  • @vlauthenrieth3172
    @vlauthenrieth3172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The video quality is great. Good job on explaining everything..

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

  • @timberandtools
    @timberandtools ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All good stuff! These are great saws with some tweaks

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes they are!

    • @timberandtools
      @timberandtools ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattr66 you got some awesome custom parts brother, I’ll be getting in touch with you soon.

  • @cygnus1965
    @cygnus1965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just got a killer deal on one of these saws brand new. Always been a Husky guy but this was to good a deal to pass up. Since it’s a two stroke I can’t help but want to modify it like I always did my dirt bikes. Think I’ll be buying a couple pieces from you in the near future. Thanks!!!

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      look here for some more improvements for the 590 www.ghtuning.com/product/cnc-machined-and-upgraded-chainsaw-parts/

    • @bluyetiinc7553
      @bluyetiinc7553 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How does it compare to the Husky?

    • @gordonhenderson1965
      @gordonhenderson1965 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bluyetiinc7553 The biggest difference is your wallet is heavier after getting an Echo. 5 year warranty is also awesome.

    • @cygnus1965
      @cygnus1965 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was really liking it but only barely got it broke in when I had a garage fire that took most of my tools the echo along with it. I think it would have been just as good as my old rancher if I would have been able
      To run it more. I have some trees to get down this weekend so I am going to go see if I can find one at the local pawn shops.

  • @lehringer4884
    @lehringer4884 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When you port a Echo Saw they turn into a beast. Red armor is the best oil

  • @andybecker2693
    @andybecker2693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like the old fashioned separate on/off and choke controls. However, I would like to see a momentary kill switch so that the saw always returns to the run position. I can’t tell you how many times I forgot to turn the switch on. I now just immediately flip it back to the run position after stopping it.

    • @springfield03sniper
      @springfield03sniper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I run saws a lot, and I like Echo’s simple controls better than Husqvarna for sure. Stihl is ok.

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm going to try to find a momentary switch so that my 620 has the same manual-of-arms as my little 3510. That little baby has spoiled.

    • @andybecker2693
      @andybecker2693 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattfleming86 You don’t like the 3510? The 50cc and up saws are pretty good all around for a decent price.

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andybecker2693 No I LOVE my 3510. It is a brushing and limbing BEAST. It's my go to ATV saw when I'm on trails I havent been on in a while. I've fell and bucked several trees in the 10-14" range it just gets slow in the bar length stuff. Still chugs along with the right grind. Rightfully so it's a 35cc saw.. For what it is, it absolutely rips and I can brush for HOURS without my arms getting tired. We farm in wooded mountain areas so fences are a big deal. I have to carry saws up a mountain (along with fence tools) to do checks/repairs, it's absolutely worth the cut speed penalty to have a quite powerful little saw that weighs near nothing. Pound per pound it is the best saw I've ever had, and would have ZERO problem suggesting it as the best "little saw" a homeowner could own. That saw is the reason I have a 620p pending delivery. If it's of similar quality to the lil baby, it will be a felling and firewood monster. Im very excited.

    • @andybecker2693
      @andybecker2693 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattfleming86 Awesome.. I have a little 2511t. It is a powerful little limbing saw and around 7lbs fully loaded and ready to go. Echo is way underrated. You’ll love that 620p for the bigger stuff. I settled for the 501p for a bigger saw and don’t regret it.

  • @Billster1955
    @Billster1955 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Matt, thanks for your help today with my CS620P. I'm already a subscriber. Love your channel.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the sub!

  • @jedimaster197
    @jedimaster197 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I do the cs-620p coil, then I would also do the 620p carb as well, it has a bigger center tube/ Venturie area for more power and fuel to air mix...

    • @gordonhenderson1965
      @gordonhenderson1965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just sold my 590 and bought a 620PW. I really can't see any benefit to all the time and money involved since the 620 has all these improvements out of the box with a valid 5 year warranty.

    • @cargotoolshop5319
      @cargotoolshop5319 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same comment was going to say it would be cheaper to sell your saw and buy the 620, my brother has one that's ported and modded, she's loud and proud, it just screams for Mercy

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The bigger carb on a stock port 590 doesn't help much. I actually like the smaller 590 carb on a fully ported saw with a nozzle change because it is more responsive vs the 620 carb.

    • @TornadoCrewStormChasers
      @TornadoCrewStormChasers ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gordonhenderson1965 is the 620 really that much more?

  • @ejsocci2630
    @ejsocci2630 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video as always,thanks

  • @ejsocci2630
    @ejsocci2630 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy your videos,thanks

  • @drhclandefiance465
    @drhclandefiance465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't know that gas lasted two years.. might be worth buying like you said last tank of the season. I run 40:1 in everything.. even my four stroke engines besides my car or truck

  • @matthewbeaver5026
    @matthewbeaver5026 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you buy name brand filters they arent much trouble.
    Its the cheap amazon filters that aren't shaped properly for the intake hole.

  • @bigk3381
    @bigk3381 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I see this was from a year or so ago but I'll take a change... I too have the CS590 and still have the oem chain, definitely need something more aggressive... Suggestion's please.?
    Thank, enjoy life.!

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Husky x cut or full chisel Oregon or even full chisel Stihl

    • @geopolitix7770
      @geopolitix7770 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm running a full chisel Husky on my cs 600 and it was going well until I cooked it! On the bright side, I'm learning more about this awesome value saw

  • @ejsocci2630
    @ejsocci2630 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome review thanks, I like your videos

  • @jasonmcpherson05
    @jasonmcpherson05 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These will work with the 620 as well.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      The muffler mod yes, but not the timing since the 620 coil already has a more advanced curve.

  • @sjl2569
    @sjl2569 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm still trying to figure out if my oil pump Is working or not.

  • @johnbaumgardtiii8568
    @johnbaumgardtiii8568 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a stock Timberwolf and would like to do a couple mods. I’m interested in purchasing a crank key and muffler cover.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      www.ghtuning.com/product/cnc-machined-and-upgraded-chainsaw-parts/

  • @thebubbacontinuum2645
    @thebubbacontinuum2645 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I installed your aluminum deflector and key. I have a 620 carb.
    How fast should I let this saw run? It will do about 14K. I brought it down to 12.5

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like 13k

  • @sjl2569
    @sjl2569 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you do these mods on a 620? You started to take about it cut out. And what's the difference between the two.

  • @johnkeener9200
    @johnkeener9200 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What exactly was done to carb? Somehow missed that

  • @shartne
    @shartne 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    every torque wrench I find only goes up to 200 inch pounds not 220 inch like you said where did you find your torque wrench what brand is that? Is that a 3/8 drive?

  • @josephseibert4662
    @josephseibert4662 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get a full house chisel chain and it cuts really fast

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They come with one now... Oregon EXL

  • @Davids_United-Fam
    @Davids_United-Fam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid bud do you have links to the tools used ?

  • @Joethetreeguy3
    @Joethetreeguy3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just bought a CS 590 and want to do your mods ,,,,, where do I get the carb jet or carb replacement part , and timing piece ?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Walbro makes the nozzle but saw salvage.co actually has a 620 aftermarket carburetor that would solve the problem too.

  • @BillsGarageWorks
    @BillsGarageWorks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stihl pre mix is an alkaline fuel lasts 2 years open and 5 years sealed. Only other fuel like it is aspen. Both won’t ever gum your carb the other in this video will about a year sooner

    • @jorangel87
      @jorangel87 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use echo red armor I think it’s even better and it’s 93 octane

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But we can all agree that ethanol-laden fuel is terrible for storage in small engines right? LOL

  • @robertdouglas3456
    @robertdouglas3456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! 🤩🤩

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! 🤗

  • @nickromaniuk7012
    @nickromaniuk7012 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought and installed all of your mods, What is the starting point for both the high and low jets do you suggest before tuning?

  • @dentondunn4346
    @dentondunn4346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where did you find the muffler mod to go on it where spark reflector is that fits it like that with a bigger opening on it? Man I've got alot to learn. I was going to have a whole complete muffler put on mine in Iowa for $100 and a tune but I have to ship it from Kentucky and still not sure what shipping charges will be

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will be selling them in a few weeks. They are in production currently.

  • @brandoncuozzo6030
    @brandoncuozzo6030 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also I live in aurora North Carolina and I’m trying to find a place to buy a echo 590 from that can also tune it for me. Any ideas where the best place to go would be? Hoping you might be willing to google echo dealers near aurora NC and tell me which place u think would be best to deal with.

  • @AnonymousOtters
    @AnonymousOtters 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rev'n your saw like a donkey at the end of each cut definitely helps

  • @TornadoCrewStormChasers
    @TornadoCrewStormChasers ปีที่แล้ว

    If you buy the 620p do you still need to do the mods or are they already done? Thanks in advance for your response.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just doing the muffler mod with a few extra holes under the modified deflector or better yet, one of my billet deflectors, a 620 will make 85% of the power of a fully ported saw.

  • @brandoncuozzo6030
    @brandoncuozzo6030 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also, I have read several places that the 590s run rich out of the box an need to be tuned soon as you buy them. Is that true to the best of your knowledge?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would wait a few tanks then have the dealer tune it if you are unfamiliar with the process.

  • @georgedavall9449
    @georgedavall9449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! 👍✌🏻🇺🇸

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks 👍

  • @luebkeb
    @luebkeb หลายเดือนก่อน

    You didn't really do anything to the carb, why take it off?
    You only adjusted the high speed jet. You don't have to remove carb for that, so you?
    What did i miss?

  • @NJUSA36
    @NJUSA36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just wondering if you have used little red barn pop up piston on the echo cs590? And if so how well does it perform? Is it worth it?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have but not in a full port job because I already bump the compression by cutting the cylinder. On an otherwise stock saw, you won't notice much.

    • @thunderdome8936
      @thunderdome8936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Funny you mention little red barn. I live 20 min away from him and got to attend a small engine class he teaches at the local college

  • @seapanda-117
    @seapanda-117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    About to pick up a used one of these saws and know nothing. Can anyone recommend a good resource to learn about this saw more?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tune it and run it. Look into muffler and other mods.

  • @npb3871
    @npb3871 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What you recommend this saw over something like the holtzforma copy of a husqvarna 372xp?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely........ this is the best value out there on a 60cc saw.

  • @joeymartin2117
    @joeymartin2117 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cant keep chain tight on my 590

  • @HorseShooter69
    @HorseShooter69 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any plans to make more timing keys? They are sold out on the website…

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Give it 4 days

  • @garymcmullin2292
    @garymcmullin2292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    pretty savvy way to address saw performance. I have to laugh at a notable channel that took after a 590 and put the emphasis on cylinder porting. Oh he changed carbs alright, but went to a bigger 620 and no fix for the jetting that feeds too much fuel. And he tried a 620 coil but near as I can understand that did not amount to an advance on the timing. I don't recall that he made any muffler mods either. Your methods on this saw were right, fix the easily and obvious problems first and don't immediately decide that the porting is all screwed up. Minimalist....and it paid dividends.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      The go even harder ported..... th-cam.com/users/shortste_bjKAxpW8?feature=shares

    • @davemilster
      @davemilster ปีที่แล้ว

      That dude did open a hole in the muffler with the stock diverter plate. But as you said he was all about porting.

  • @jyellowhammer
    @jyellowhammer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 590 Refuses to start. It floods out after two pulls. You can see fuel coming out of the compression plug. Total nightmare. I have owned many echo saws in the past (440 my all time favorite) and every one of them ran like a sewing machine. Not the 590. Bought it brand new used it maybe 6 times and never for more than 20 mins each time.
    I actually broke it down earlier tonight after I get it back from the shop (still wouldn't start). super pissed.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How much are you choking it? Only choke until it pops once then push the choke in and keep cranking.

  • @georgerrumph4989
    @georgerrumph4989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Matt, If I send my chain saw to you to get the mods you suggest. How much would it cost? How do I contact you? Thanks.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      Can be contacted here: www.ghtuning.com/product/cnc-machined-and-upgraded-chainsaw-parts/

  • @rodneykegley6948
    @rodneykegley6948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have your muffler deflectors for sale yet. They are just bolt on correct

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not yet... Still a month out. They are in production sourcing materials now.

  • @mattfarus1
    @mattfarus1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there anything like this for the 450?

  • @N9IWJ
    @N9IWJ ปีที่แล้ว

    I never did see what you did for the carburetor mod did you just change the jet and that's it?
    Jet with no bypass?
    By changing the key on the crankshaft from metal to plastic I don't understand how that changes your timing

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out my other videos for the carburetor modification (changing the jet). On this video it only covers allowing for proper adjustment of the factory carburetor with no hardware changes. The timing key was made with an offset which gives a different timing advance. The factory key is just straight.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/hZbuPtdCLLs/w-d-xo.html shows the actual changing of the nozzle. This is only required on a fully ported saw or at altitude where the factory adjustment doesn't allow the saw to go lean enough.

    • @N9IWJ
      @N9IWJ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattr66 okay thank you very much

  • @ChattanoogaDan
    @ChattanoogaDan ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you know how rich/lean it is? Is there a visual setting or is it by sound?

    • @Deaner3D
      @Deaner3D 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a bit of an old comment but I imagine he has a digital tach and is going by RPM. Leaner will go higher RPM at full throttle. Some old fellas can go by sound but I'd never trust myself with that.

  • @chriswhite1174
    @chriswhite1174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So about how far off of fully closed did you ended up high jet ?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pretty close to 1/8 of a turn open.... That's all!

    • @chriswhite1174
      @chriswhite1174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      One last question did you have to pull the red limiter caps and thanks for the help.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chriswhite1174 yes but I put them back in after adjustment

    • @chriswhite1174
      @chriswhite1174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man I appreciate it!

  • @greenstar32
    @greenstar32 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Matt, can I buy one of those little flywheel keys from you, or would you ever mod the whole saw for me please?

    • @greenstar32
      @greenstar32 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll pay you obviously

  • @BubbaRuss
    @BubbaRuss ปีที่แล้ว

    when is the muffler going to be available for my cs 590 saw . thganks bubba

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      They will be here shortly. Waiting on a shippment. www.sawsalvage.co/search?q=gearhead

  • @timmacon6549
    @timmacon6549 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does just changing a key way change the timing

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ever advance a distributor on a car?

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you don’t understand why, you probably shouldn’t be modifying your saw.

  • @aaronpowell4885
    @aaronpowell4885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice mod list👍 did a base gasket delete on mine, got squish down to .023 and removed the inner deflector + drilled 2 5/16 holes either side of the tube, under the deflector before the second tankfull. definitely helped! Then I built it an Ironhorse style pipe, WOW! Woke it right up! Next I'm gonna either remove the carb plug, braze the hole up and reinstall or clean and use a tiny dab of jb weld. I've been running 100ll avgas with either opti-2 or saber at 45:1 in all my saws but typically use no more than 3-4 gallons of mix a year and have been tempted to just use motomix in everything. Would you not have any qualms about running the 50:1 motomix in a modified saw?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I run motomix or amsoil saber at 50:1. The lubrication properties of the amsoil especially negates the need to mix stronger than 50:1, but the motomix is fine too.

  • @nicksanders9140
    @nicksanders9140 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn't you gut the muffler

    • @geopolitix7770
      @geopolitix7770 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably because it's an absolute cow of a thing. Check out Novice Lumberjack, he cut one apart and it's a horror show inside. I think the Tinman Saws mod (almost bypasses the muffler innards) with this deflector cutout mod would be interesting (and both reversible)

  • @FYMM69
    @FYMM69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff brother. Your 3D keyway sure sounded like it picked the WOT RPMS up but was it my ears or was it stumbling a bit in the cut ?? Helluva improvement over stock tho.. Thank you

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was bumping against the rev limiter under light load I think is what you heard.

    • @monsterenergy87sh
      @monsterenergy87sh ปีที่แล้ว

      Still had a bit of a cough throuout the cut, because it's still a bit rich. If you drilled a hole to equal 70% of the original exhaust hole in the muffler under the director plate it will help you quite a bit, also the transfers in the cylinder can have about 20 thou removed to match the case to help out quite a bit with gains in power.

  • @nathanprather279
    @nathanprather279 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I purchase a couple of those keyways?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      www.sawsalvage.co/search?q=gearhead

  • @semiprofessional8470
    @semiprofessional8470 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just ordered the exhaust deflector for my 4910. I assume I'll need more fuel on top end? Awesome video

  • @brandoncuozzo6030
    @brandoncuozzo6030 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you know how many rpm you are getting out of it?

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      By using a tachometer…

  • @christophergriffith9275
    @christophergriffith9275 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I purchase one of those printed keys from you? Can’t seem to find a similar fit.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes here: www.ghtuning.com/product/cnc-machined-and-upgraded-chainsaw-parts/

  • @adambatchelder4121
    @adambatchelder4121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the crappy sealing air filter?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a fix for that now too.... www.ghtuning.com/product/cnc-machined-and-upgraded-chainsaw-parts/

  • @donniechampeaux506
    @donniechampeaux506 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the key only go in one way?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep, can't mess it up by design

  • @tinytinytimyall
    @tinytinytimyall ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m not going to lie, I absolutely hate my 590 Timberwolf, it’s so touchy that if it doesn’t fire on the first one or two pulls it completely floods and nothing will get it started.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      How are you applying the choke? Choke it till it pops out of the exhaust one time then push the choke in then keep cranking till it fires. Then tap the trigger to get it off of fast idle.

    • @tinytinytimyall
      @tinytinytimyall ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattr66 that’s my procedure. Most of the time I get a cough out of the motor on the first pull, switch choke off one more pull it coughs and about half the time it will run from there but , if it doesn’t start running on that second pull, no amount of pulling, choke, starting fluid will get it going. The only time I’ve gotten it running after that involved taking the plug out and blowing the cylinder dry.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm maybe it is pushing fuel at rest try clearing it with no choke for a couple of pulls before you choke it next time and see if it pops without the choke.

    • @jondor654
      @jondor654 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Try alternate one pull choke on next pull choke off repeat . This might beat the odds .

  • @TheCaryhomesellers
    @TheCaryhomesellers 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do I get one of your 3D printed keys?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are aluminum now. www.Sawsalvage.co has them

  • @richardroda4882
    @richardroda4882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No need to waste money mixing the Amsoil Saber at 50:1. I have been using this product since 1986. Never, ever had an issue with the 100:1 mix and this was running all my 2 stroke equipment in my landscape maint. company. Non ethanol fuel at the pump with Amsoil Saber mixed at 100:1 is the way to go.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is definitely good stuff.... I just keep it at 50:1 because it's good insurance knowing how hard I run my equipment.

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because you’re lucky, it’s the way to go?

  • @matticus6339
    @matticus6339 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maxima Formula K2 at 32:1 is my choice.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      I hear it's good stuff

    • @matticus6339
      @matticus6339 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattr66 Seems to be, I have been happy with it. I am currently trying out Yamalube 2R, same 32:1 ratio.

  • @WreckitRalphie
    @WreckitRalphie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I get the high jet u used with no hole in top?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i stock them most of the time. I'm also going to start offering them installed as a turnaround service eventually. www.amazon.com/Walbro-86-578-1-Nozzle-check-valve/dp/B00TDA2H6I

  • @happydays454
    @happydays454 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHAT NEEDLE DO YOU CHANGE

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both the H and L needles usually need a little tweaking on these saws.....

  • @CrazySchultz17
    @CrazySchultz17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aren’t the coils on the 590’s governed?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, at a little over 13000 rpms(around 13500), but you don't really run the saw there anyway. The HP band (even ported) starts to drop after 10500 RPMs or so.... Just bumping the timing gives you everything the 620 coil does, but without losing the rpm limiter.

  • @kevinhatchett5521
    @kevinhatchett5521 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I get the key way at

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      sawsalvage.co search "gearhead"

  • @oldmanadventuring
    @oldmanadventuring ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Gearhead.
    Will these modifications work for my CS-620PW? I can just feel it in my hands that the 620 wants to put out some more power. If so, I am interested in your 3d printed parts for purchase! Can you post the link here again to order please if different from below?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm all out of 590/620 muffler deflectors but they have been a big hit. Retailers will have some more by the end of January. Just modifying the muffler deflector and adding 4 3/16 inch holes around the main hole on the muffler will really wake your saw up. Just remember to retune the carburetor properly afterwards...... Also the 620 coil doesn't need any timing changes.

    • @oldmanadventuring
      @oldmanadventuring ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattr66
      Thanks for getting back to me. This is good to know. I may try that hold mod first. Glad I don't need to do a timing change :)

  • @ChrisLascari
    @ChrisLascari 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about non ethanol fuel from the pump?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Better for long term storage for sure but I would still use stabilizer. Also saws like 89+ octane typically. Some of the pump gas that is ethanol-free is 87 octane.

    • @stripedbassnut
      @stripedbassnut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's all I use in my small engines. There's a chain of gas stations near me that sell it in 93 octane.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stripedbassnut That's a high quality fuel to be able to be 93 octane without the ethanol. That's high quality stuff.....

    • @43dukedog
      @43dukedog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did this muff mod removed limiter tabs and retuned the 590 rips now much more power thanks its all I need also did this same to my cs 400 with cat removal very strong saw great for limbing and smaller bucking

  • @eurokid83
    @eurokid83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the part number on that high speed nozzle?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Currently looking for a replacement. The ones I normally use are on backorder indefinitely.

    • @eurokid83
      @eurokid83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattr66 I’ll see if I can find the part number for the one I used in my 600P. I replaced it not necessarily because I wanted to increase RPM, but so I had more fine control of the mixture.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eurokid83 you can also hammer the orfice closed in the factory nozzle if you are careful with a punch and hammer and don't push the nozzle in further.

  • @jacobweber9956
    @jacobweber9956 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any way I could get one of your flywheel keys?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes find me on Facebook.... facebook.com/profile.php?id=1272332426

  • @OccultEngineering
    @OccultEngineering 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't lie Brother Matt...
    That was a 7.3 turbo pedestal oring wasn't it...
    FTE Brotherhood 4-EVER 😆 🤣
    - Christof13T

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's been too long.. i don't even remember what size those were.

  • @WreckitRalphie
    @WreckitRalphie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flywheel torque specs?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      See video at 27:00

  • @Gristle111
    @Gristle111 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bet it cuts even faster if you dont drag the dogs down the wood

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      It really wasn't but I'll make sure of that next go around.

  • @w6qd
    @w6qd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm interested in purchasing a key(s) and the muffler deflector. I am not on Facebook, so is there another way to contact you?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.ghtuning.com/product/cnc-machined-and-upgraded-chainsaw-parts/

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.ghtuning.com/product/cnc-machined-and-upgraded-chainsaw-parts/

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.ghtuning.com/product/cnc-machined-and-upgraded-chainsaw-parts/

  • @hilltopper600
    @hilltopper600 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    better not change anything until warranty is over

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Uh oh…it’s the warranty police!

  • @JohnDoeEagle1
    @JohnDoeEagle1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not enough faster to justify voiding the warranty and cutting the service life of your stock saw short by making it run out of the perimeters it was originally designed for.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are those of us that don't care about a warranty when we can make a 400 dollar saw cut like an 800 dollar saw with no loss of reliability and in some cases better reliability than how it left the factory.

    • @JohnDoeEagle1
      @JohnDoeEagle1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattr66
      I can understand that I suppose. However for me it's all about the reliability. Over the years I trashed 2 cheap big box store Poulan junkers before I got wise and started buying Stihl, Echo and Husqvarna equipment. The Poulan and other cheap saws have a service life of approx 50 hours and are disposable junk.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JohnDoeEagle1 I'd rather have a properly adjusted saw with an open exhaust that runs cooler than factory.

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JohnDoeEagle1Then why are you watching the video?

    • @JohnDoeEagle1
      @JohnDoeEagle1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Icutmetal
      Mechanically inclined individuals never stop being curious or learning. Why are you asking me? That is the real question.

  • @garengtutorial8923
    @garengtutorial8923 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍👍👍 bagus

  • @leekelley4160
    @leekelley4160 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shouldn’t be so gd hard to get a chainsaw to start

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ?

  • @nicksanders9140
    @nicksanders9140 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eliminate that decomp they always end up leaking

  • @pierreballou5438
    @pierreballou5438 ปีที่แล้ว

    If this is supposed to be such a great saw why do you need to do all these modifications, doesn't make sense to me.

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว

      The manufacturers are under regulations for noise and other factors. The saws are like any other engine. More air in and out, the more power they will make.

  • @Dogonatree
    @Dogonatree 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put bad gas in my new echo. Tore it up pretty good. Super expensive paper weight

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry to hear that... did you get a scored piston? Did you use old gas or gas with no 2 cycle oil in it?

    • @rickymclain3017
      @rickymclain3017 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, i did too/ expensive lesson, im waiting right now fir the motor, my choice was a 200. Walmart saw or 180. Motor/ i think i made the right decision

  • @dpresley9799
    @dpresley9799 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you cut the piece out of the muffler?

    • @mattr66
      @mattr66  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dremel with a carbide.

  • @sjl2569
    @sjl2569 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you do these mods on a 620? You started to take about it cut out. And what's the difference between the two.