Regarding Fedora GNOME Workstation being more polished than the KDE spin, the good news is that Fedora have decided to elevate the KDE version from a spin to Workstation, right alongside GNOME. So starting from the next Fedora version onwards we can expect to see much more polish & attention given to the KDE version on par with the GNOME one.
@@BjørjaBear So, the whole thing is a VERY long story. By the way my name is Steve and I am a member of the KDE Sig at Fedora. Essentially, this whole thing started with a change proposal suggesting that we replace workstation as a default with KDE. Now, mind you -- we knew this wouldn't pass, we just wanted the shock factor for this newer proposal, which is to have KDE sit side-by-side with Gnome on the frontpage. That part has passed. The prior change proposal will be dropped as it's no longer relevant.
@@drakemallard6100 it depends polished how. I will give it to you that, user interface-wise, gnome will win anyday. Heck, stability-wise, kde also has came a long way but still has ways to go. But if you have more features, you are bound to have more bugs. And kde has went an extremely long way in making it's software more stable.
Red Hat haters gonna hate, but Fedora is the most solid linux experience i had so far. It perfectly mixes the stability of fixed distros, by spicing it with newer packages than the other fixed. And they released their immutable. I was reluctant at the beginning but turns out that's the best distro concept I saw in a whole while. Still using the immutable, I had recently my 3rd migration, no problem
Just a headsup, Fedora is not RedHat. Fedora is a project that is sponsored by Redhat yes, and we do have a decent chunk of Redhat employees contributing to Fedora in an official manner, but a great amount of them contribute to Fedora in their spare time. And I would say the majority of Fedora contributors (>95%) are not affiliated with Redhat at all.
Fedora 41 has been very smooth. I, personally, use the KDE as for me, it works better, but the Gnome version is great. I love that both KDE and Gnome will be the flagships moving forward. This will only make things better for the many that prefer KDE Plasma for their workflow.
Adding the repos wasn't really hard in more recent releases anyway because you could do it in the software center but having a setup that asks if you want to add them is really nice.
How do you like the idea of making a video comparing in which cases it is better to install Fedora and in which CachyOS? I feel that these are the two best Linux distributions at the moment
I switched to fedora from windows after 20 years on windows exclusively 2 weeks ago and I am having a wonderful experience for the most part. theres a few small issues here and there but overall its been amazing. I'm sticking with it.
I've replaced my Windows 10 on laptop with Fedora 41 KDE. It was one of the best decisions I could do with my old piece of equipment. The only thing I worry about is battery life. Sometimes I need to work for up to a half of a day without access to the outlet
I tried installing it I have a AMD processor laptop 💻 during the installation of the logout screen my screen went blank and it stayed there! I don’t know if it supposed to be black during the installation or my download of fedora was corrupted
You have correctly identified the RHEL release cycle in the Fedora release cycle. F40 becomes RHEL 10. Fedora 46 will be RHEL 11. Fedora 41-44 will be innovative, 45 and 46 will be polish.
Wait, what, I've been loving Fedora 41 but I'm getting this weird stutters after some time and I'm getting the feeling it has to do with what you mentioned en passant about "disable gsp firmare manually" - I had no idea about this! I'm googling and I'm not finding some easy simple explanation, it would be great if you put out a simple PSA out there about it ;)
I followed one of his previous videos on installing a distro and it had the steps: Edit the /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-gsp.conf to have a new line called "options nvidia NVreg_EnableGpuFirmware=0". Make sure to "sudo dracut -f" then "shutdown now" right after saving
how is the nvk situation on fedora 41? is it enabled by default and if not then after enabling it is it working fine ? here on Arch linux my laptop crashes often after installing mesa and vulkan stuff to enable nvk
Remember, Fedora team --> RedHat pushed to remove support for X11 (mainly for security issues) and only then Nvidia moved their ass correcting many huge issues with wayland to make it viable (features like night mode for example that has been there for years with something about LUMNIT issue if I remember). Again business is business but only because a big actor in addition to the rising of AI stuff made Nvidia put ressources for this.
From a newbies perspective: How to get codecs... How to install google chrome... How to install Steam... It was all well documented for Fedora 40. I assume it's the change to DNF 5 but most of the ways that worked for 40 no longer work. I was unable to install google chrome. (Fedora Cinnamon no app store) And the codec install had several errors and things like mp4 encoded with H.265 wouldn't work. Pushed me to a different distro.
what do u think. should i switch from nobara to ferdora 41 because of nVidia 4070super support? in D2R there are some grafic fragments in some areas. big black squares. testet different wine versions but nothing solved my grafic problems. Running blizzard app in lutris
It's an awesome distro but Fedora 41 just bugged me the hell out becouse I can't use distrobox for hosting other distros. Please guys if you have any idea on how to successfully install and use distrobox to host other distros on Fedora 41, help me out.
I'm curious as to why KDE is better for gaming than Gnome. I use both (Fedora 41 with GNOME and Endeavour OS with KDE) and I haven't noticed any difference so far, but I'm just a noob, so any info is welcome!
@@NekobibuVonBibu kde has more gaming oriented features such as vrr and hdr. If you dont need that, you can game on gnome just fine. I at the very least recommend you try it though. I would not rely on other's opinions to choose a desktop environment
@@fabricio4794 it wildly depends on what you as a user need. I nor anyone else can answer this for you. I recommend you try it and give it a fair shake. We have a huge community in matrix that are great at helping people.
I couldn't get the RPM nvidia driver working on my Alienware x14 r2.I had to install the driver using the .run method. Games would also stutter on my 3050.I switched to PikaOS 4 and it solved the problem.
@@samnwakefield2032 i must not see the bugs or im not doin what causes them to be seen lol, i mainly use kde like a windows desktop, and i don't see any bugs lol, that does not mean they are not there
@@ThePriceIsNeverRightMaybe not. After a fresh install and updating it suddenly rebooted 2 ou 3 times out of nowhere on my machine. Now that's not happening anymore. Don't know why though
@@e002840 what you described I've never seen anyone reporting such thing in The Fedora Discussion Forum, our french friend here did a live stream installing it when F41 came out then tried playing around with and trying to break it and that did not happen! It's a user error on your part
lol... complaining about fedora being modern and innovative, but uses cachyOS... that is arch.... wtf? I don't get it... Isn't arch bleeding edge? Isn't it innovative? If you used a LTS distro I would understand all the negatives you brought up.
Regarding Fedora GNOME Workstation being more polished than the KDE spin, the good news is that Fedora have decided to elevate the KDE version from a spin to Workstation, right alongside GNOME. So starting from the next Fedora version onwards we can expect to see much more polish & attention given to the KDE version on par with the GNOME one.
I thought this was just a proposal?
@@BjørjaBear It was approved.
@@BjørjaBear So, the whole thing is a VERY long story. By the way my name is Steve and I am a member of the KDE Sig at Fedora. Essentially, this whole thing started with a change proposal suggesting that we replace workstation as a default with KDE. Now, mind you -- we knew this wouldn't pass, we just wanted the shock factor for this newer proposal, which is to have KDE sit side-by-side with Gnome on the frontpage. That part has passed. The prior change proposal will be dropped as it's no longer relevant.
Making KDE as polished as Gnome is a looooong way...
@@drakemallard6100 it depends polished how. I will give it to you that, user interface-wise, gnome will win anyday. Heck, stability-wise, kde also has came a long way but still has ways to go.
But if you have more features, you are bound to have more bugs. And kde has went an extremely long way in making it's software more stable.
I'm on Fedora KDE for 2,5 years now. It's rock solid. No issues whatsoever. I love it!
I am running Fedora 41 (with Gnome 47) and it is running superbly. It has been my go-to distro for a long time. Great video!
Red Hat haters gonna hate, but Fedora is the most solid linux experience i had so far. It perfectly mixes the stability of fixed distros, by spicing it with newer packages than the other fixed.
And they released their immutable. I was reluctant at the beginning but turns out that's the best distro concept I saw in a whole while. Still using the immutable, I had recently my 3rd migration, no problem
Just a headsup, Fedora is not RedHat. Fedora is a project that is sponsored by Redhat yes, and we do have a decent chunk of Redhat employees contributing to Fedora in an official manner, but a great amount of them contribute to Fedora in their spare time. And I would say the majority of Fedora contributors (>95%) are not affiliated with Redhat at all.
Thank you for this, Redhat supports Israel, so I didn't really want to install and use Fedora, but I think I may look into it.
@@2ru2pacFan You don't need to bring politics and who cares its just a distro.
Fedora 41 has been very smooth. I, personally, use the KDE as for me, it works better, but the Gnome version is great. I love that both KDE and Gnome will be the flagships moving forward. This will only make things better for the many that prefer KDE Plasma for their workflow.
Adding the repos wasn't really hard in more recent releases anyway because you could do it in the software center but having a setup that asks if you want to add them is really nice.
How do you like the idea of making a video comparing in which cases it is better to install Fedora and in which CachyOS? I feel that these are the two best Linux distributions at the moment
I switched to fedora from windows after 20 years on windows exclusively 2 weeks ago and I am having a wonderful experience for the most part. theres a few small issues here and there but overall its been amazing. I'm sticking with it.
I’m interested to see if anyone out there uses fedora for live-streaming and video editing.
I've replaced my Windows 10 on laptop with Fedora 41 KDE. It was one of the best decisions I could do with my old piece of equipment. The only thing I worry about is battery life. Sometimes I need to work for up to a half of a day without access to the outlet
I tried installing it I have a AMD processor laptop 💻 during the installation of the logout screen my screen went blank and it stayed there! I don’t know if it supposed to be black during the installation or my download of fedora was corrupted
You have correctly identified the RHEL release cycle in the Fedora release cycle. F40 becomes RHEL 10. Fedora 46 will be RHEL 11. Fedora 41-44 will be innovative, 45 and 46 will be polish.
Wait, what, I've been loving Fedora 41 but I'm getting this weird stutters after some time and I'm getting the feeling it has to do with what you mentioned en passant about "disable gsp firmare manually" - I had no idea about this! I'm googling and I'm not finding some easy simple explanation, it would be great if you put out a simple PSA out there about it ;)
You may just look at how to use the testing branch and get newer drivers... I have no issues using the latest nvidia 565.57.01 Driver
I followed one of his previous videos on installing a distro and it had the steps:
Edit the /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-gsp.conf to have a new line called "options nvidia NVreg_EnableGpuFirmware=0". Make sure to "sudo dracut -f" then "shutdown now" right after saving
how is the nvk situation on fedora 41? is it enabled by default and if not then after enabling it is it working fine ? here on Arch linux my laptop crashes often after installing mesa and vulkan stuff to enable nvk
Remember, Fedora team --> RedHat pushed to remove support for X11 (mainly for security issues) and only then Nvidia moved their ass correcting many huge issues with wayland to make it viable (features like night mode for example that has been there for years with something about LUMNIT issue if I remember). Again business is business but only because a big actor in addition to the rising of AI stuff made Nvidia put ressources for this.
Earlier than Fedoras switch to wayland
From a newbies perspective: How to get codecs... How to install google chrome... How to install Steam... It was all well documented for Fedora 40. I assume it's the change to DNF 5 but most of the ways that worked for 40 no longer work. I was unable to install google chrome. (Fedora Cinnamon no app store) And the codec install had several errors and things like mp4 encoded with H.265 wouldn't work. Pushed me to a different distro.
i'm a big fan of fedora and used every single release since 2003
Great video, thanks dude.
Does fedora 41 support VRR and HDR?(gnome)
they removed CEF browser for OBS, not going to switch to 41 until it fixed
Will 'game-performance %command%' work in Fedora with CachyOS kernel from COPR or this thing not about just kernel?
what do u think. should i switch from nobara to ferdora 41 because of nVidia 4070super support?
in D2R there are some grafic fragments in some areas. big black squares. testet different wine versions but nothing solved my grafic problems.
Running blizzard app in lutris
So many distros and it comes down to 4 ubuntu fedora mxlinux manjaro
so are my tech oriented comments being reviewed too? look at my thumbnail. fuck youtube.
Least immaculate spoken english by a french
Omelette au fromage are very good!! 😂
It's an awesome distro but Fedora 41 just bugged me the hell out becouse I can't use distrobox for hosting other distros. Please guys if you have any idea on how to successfully install and use distrobox to host other distros on Fedora 41, help me out.
You should stop adding crap to a distro using distrobox...wanna do that go with bazzite or any atomic versions
I'm curious as to why KDE is better for gaming than Gnome. I use both (Fedora 41 with GNOME and Endeavour OS with KDE) and I haven't noticed any difference so far, but I'm just a noob, so any info is welcome!
There are more features in plasma like tearing support on wayland
Gnome is more stable overall but takes a chunk of system resources...so kde so far...if not a debian based like mx linux
KDE has VRR (Freesync) and HDR Support, Gnome doesnt have this (yet)
@@marcelbromm2625 gnome is most stable overall
@@NekobibuVonBibu kde has more gaming oriented features such as vrr and hdr. If you dont need that, you can game on gnome just fine. I at the very least recommend you try it though. I would not rely on other's opinions to choose a desktop environment
I was waiting for the KDE Spin review 😥
Omelette sans gnome.
Can i use Fedora as Daily Desktop?100% to work without surprises??
@@fabricio4794 it wildly depends on what you as a user need. I nor anyone else can answer this for you. I recommend you try it and give it a fair shake. We have a huge community in matrix that are great at helping people.
I couldn't get the RPM nvidia driver working on my Alienware x14 r2.I had to install the driver using the .run method. Games would also stutter on my 3050.I switched to PikaOS 4 and it solved the problem.
Brazilians cannot use PikaOS, tho 😂
another win for cachyos recent releases they disabled gsp on default we don't have to do that step anymore.
3:29 A1RM4X dont you mean rpm fusion for nvidia drivers only
And steam too. You are right it is not all the repos from RPM Fusion.
I use Fedora KDE, and waiting for Fedora Cosmic next year.
This, so much this :)
I run a 78503XD and a 6800XT - CachyOS is a good match.
PAPA are you psychic im installing right now
I tip my Fedora to you sir
I am not happy with Fedora 41. Thinking of switching to another distro
I've been thinking about trying CachyOS, ZorionOS and maybe Endeveour OS, don't know if it may help but you these are great distros to check out.
U should....mx linux a great debian choice
theres still a problem for fedora, DNF haha.
i'll stick to cachyos if it worked on my PC i'd probably try suse but the net install didn't work for me.
man is the current kde version is not polished i cant wait to see polished cuz this is the best kde experience i have had outside the steamdeck lol
Kde 5.27 was the golden kde...after that all of them are a buggy mess
@@samnwakefield2032 i must not see the bugs or im not doin what causes them to be seen lol, i mainly use kde like a windows desktop, and i don't see any bugs lol, that does not mean they are not there
with fedora 41 i haved too many bugs on a fresh install, sorry, i come back to cachyos
User error
@@ThePriceIsNeverRightMaybe not. After a fresh install and updating it suddenly rebooted 2 ou 3 times out of nowhere on my machine. Now that's not happening anymore. Don't know why though
@@e002840 what you described I've never seen anyone reporting such thing in The Fedora Discussion Forum, our french friend here did a live stream installing it when F41 came out then tried playing around with and trying to break it and that did not happen!
It's a user error on your part
👍!
lol... complaining about fedora being modern and innovative, but uses cachyOS... that is arch.... wtf? I don't get it... Isn't arch bleeding edge? Isn't it innovative? If you used a LTS distro I would understand all the negatives you brought up.
Bisou bisou
Linux uses more ram.
Depends, anything uses more or less ram depending on what you're doing.
You mean the kernel? Compile your own and throw out everything you don’t need. You should be able to get it to under 20 MB of ram.
Just download more RAM
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