Looking At Fedora 40 "KDE" (Should THIS Be The Official Fedora Flavor?)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มิ.ย. 2024
- Fedora 40 was just a released a few days ago, and this time around I decided to not look at the flagship edition of Fedora with GNOME. Instead, I'm looking at Fedora 40 KDE. The reason is because it ships with Plasma 6 and there have been talks about Fedora making KDE their official desktop.
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KDE Connect is a seriously underrated tool.
It is so buggy in my experience. There are so many times where SMS just doesn't work, or remote commands just fail.
I haven't used it for years now.
What can it do aside from the file transferring feature?
@@iamtharunraj I used it just for remote control, for listening music or youtube 😅
Mildly buggy for me, but I use it every day.
You can use your phone as an input device or a second screen@@iamtharunraj
The KDE Spin should be one of the two official versions. I can't think of any argument against that.
I feel like they are already positioning KDE as the second official edition. Silverblue (GNOME) and Kinoite (KDE) are the only two immutable editions with unique names (as opposed to Sway Atomic and Budgie Atomic).
Yes. I've switched from W11 to Fedora KDE. All ok!
Good change. I really disliked W11, and went back to W10 after about 45 minutes of W11 lol.
Nobara (Glorious Eggroll's Fedora spin) uses KDE plasma 6 as default
Your videos, specially "first/quick looks" are relaxing. I like them.
We use this Spin of fedora as well as Zorin and Linux Mint in all my company's devices, I can now proudly say we fer rid of Windows and MacOS completely
What does this company do?
Congrats. I've installed Linux over Windows on 3 of my systems. I'm done with Windows except for dual boot for Game Pass. I never cared for MacOS, it could disappear and nothing of value would be lost.
im using Fedora Gnome and for me it fit perfect for my need as a desktop.
Thank you. I was looking for a new distro and your video actually helped. I really was looking into fedora KDE as a option and you just popped up with my answers.
The Desktop Cube is back in Plasma 6 too. ❤❤
Best feature and undeniable proof that KDE is the desktop of the future
Moved to Fedora KDE from Gnome because of strange input delay/lag in games. Now everything run flawless
Gnome is ok but I could never use it daily. It is missing too many QoL features. KDE Plasma is so smooth and has everything I want and need from a DE.
@@bean420man gnome is more annoying for me because its too macos like with all the hiding things, delay and animations
same reason i hate windows 11 24h2
Small tip regarding upgrading to Plasma 6- if you get a default login screen with a red error message instead of a custom one you chose, it is probably that your login screen is QT 5 instead of 6. Just log in and go to settings and use one of the defaults or click on get a new log in screen and sort by the newest - most of the newer ones are QT 6 and usually mention this in the description.
Nice review! Been helping test Fedora KDE primarily and what a great experience. Great community. Have to say Fedora KDE has been very stable for me.
Fedora is a test bed that is more stable than a lot of distros 😅
Agreed.
Nope, Fedora is one of the most polished and stable Linux distribution.
@@vvgr409 I agree. I was saying it is a test bed referring to what DT said. Fedora and Arch are my favourite i can choose between them. Obviously I like theme for different reasons.
@@gizzmoguy. I see Fedora as the best of both worlds in terms of overarching distributions. It has Debian’s reputation of overall stability, and Arch’s reputation of up-to-date software.
@@SirChristoferus I agree. The only reason I even consider any other distro (in this case Arch) is because of how slow dnf is. Apart from that I don’t think any distro can touch Fedora Linux.
Thx for this excellent video DT!
I've been using Fedora with Gnome desktop for the last 3 years. Smooth as butter and not a single issue when upgrading to the next release. Personally KDE not my favourite, but it works for others.
Same here. Fedora Workstation was my choice when moving from the Microsoft ecosystem to the open-source ecosystem. Out of the box, GNOME really brings out the uniqueness of Linux when compared to something like Windows or macOS.
Been using Fedora 40 Gnome edition and have found 3 big bugs that I am dealing with. Not a show stopper but somewhat concerning how they were missed is beyond me. Hopefully, they get resolved after some updates. This has always been the issue with running Linux in a desktop envrionment are the bugs they have. The kernel is pretty much flawless.
I love the look of gnome 46 but the factional scaling is still sketchy for multiple monitors. KDE gets it perfect. Plasma 6 is beautiful and works.
Gonna give it a try new to the Linux environment. Had Ubuntu on my device but unfortunately getting a bunch of issues especially with my camera not working at all.
@@maccaberry1041 Hopefully, the GNOME 47 development team will add the necessary fixes for that. Fractional scaling on the de facto desktop environment will definitely intrigue newcomers - users and developers alike.
Hi DT, I like your content, I found your channel by searching QTILE videos, you are awesome mate. I just have one question. From what I see you are always using X11, and I wonder what the reason of that is, why not Wayland, and why X11 (especially on QTILE).
Many thanks for all your works.Gnome with or without extensions is super.
not so much... 😅
Hey DT! I know that might seem like an unusual question but I noticed that you use the sugar-dark sddm theme on Arch (Arco) and DTOS. Have you had any issues with it regadring qt-quickcontrols and qt-graphicaleffects? Usually just installing these makes the theme load (I also use a modified version of the same theme) but since the switch to Fedora 40, I've been having issues where it says that the module "Graphicaleffects" is not installed, where the Fedora package for it, qt5-qtgraphicaleffects, has been installed. I even did a reboot (which should not be necessary) and still get the error message. I just wanted to see if its caused by the version bump of this package in Fedora 40 (an update that happened on Arch in mid-March) or something else, Cheers
My personal experience on Fedora has been extremely stable. I usually wait at least a month to upgrade to the latest version. For my use case of gaming, recording, streaming and coding I actually find that being on older software / kernels tends to leave me with more problems than jumping to something newer might give me. I've updated version after version for years without needing to reinstall.
For those who do not want to use Fedora, there's always OpenSUSE Leap. OpenSUSE Leap is supported for 48 months, compared to Fedora, which only has 13 months.
Dt lightin is just beautiful in this video 🙌
I love Plasma 6, but there is one issue that bothers me. When I add a new App Icon to the panel everything is fine, but when I reboot, the added icon isn't in the panel anymore. I'm on EndeavourOS but maybe it is different on Fedora.
I have this installed and I can open more tabs then I can in MX Linux XFCE. It seems that KDE is getting better and better. I know I liked it the best in the KDE 3 days but this is pretty good and runs well.
I tried fedora 40 KDE on my laptop with Nvidia, and the suspend-resume was broken completely. This has been the case with kde since forever now. Gnome works flawless though
Afaik it was an issue that also occured on specific kernel versions for me and many others. Maybe a kernel issue ?
Downgrade nvidia driver to 54X should fix it
How did u get nvidia installed?
@@markawuku1761 from fedora's non free rpm fusion repos.
Since I'm on KDE Neon, might as well give this spin a try. I do like Plasma 6 so far.
Is there a way we can add weather like gnome open weather in KDE?
There is as widget at left.
Fedora update had ~600 updates, meanwhile Ubuntu has had 0 updates in last 8 days, but the LTS release was totally broken compared to 23.10. so much negative feedback for Ubuntu and Kubuntu. Kubuntu has been my favourite distro for a long time. But for now i will stay on CachyOS.
What HARDWARE were you using for your Linux box in this review of Fedora?
We're on Plasma 6 now on Tuxedo OS. The installer was pretty easy to use for the update, but the bottom panel feels a little buggy on boot. It resizes from large to small. BTW my panel was set to behave the same way in Plasma 5.27. Alt-Tab to switch the open programs has improved and also the overview is greatly improved. I honestly wouldn't have minded waiting a few more months to move over to KDE 6. A slight delay in updates isn't the worst thing. We're still on the old Ubuntu LTS. I'm sure there'll be a load of headaches with Ubuntu LTS this summer.
Fedora Rawhide is a rolling release model like Debian Sid
Kde plasma is available in Archlinux, Fedora Rawhide & Opensuse Tumbleweed before Fedora 40
I know DT, you like rolling release distro so i mention this distro for you
And fedora also has online installer like debian known as Fedora everything iso
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I'm dual-booting Windows 11 23H2 and Fedora 40 KDE. And if I ever figure out how to get Fallout New Vegas running _with_ Mod Organizer 2 on Fedora, I'll no longer bother with Windows at all.
Hey DT, would you consider reviewing LXQt 2.0?
You can change wallpapers in system settings in Plasma version 6 now now need to right click the desktop.
Hey DT, one thing else you might like about Fedora 40 is there is now finally a qtile package in the repos.
This reminds me I bought a Python 3.11+ reference manual from O'Reilly. Maybe it's time for me to try Qtile.
Damn. I have attempted to try Fedora in the past but since my main WM is Qtile, I have had problems trying to get it working on Fedora. I still prefer Arch based Distros but I have been wanting to try Fedora. Another problem is I have an 10 series NVIDIA gpu in my laptop so it makes it more difficult especially with the switch to Wayland.
you can sort the programs in htop by memory usage so you can see what's using it
Fedora 40 seems more stable than Ubuntu 24.04 on my machine. Applies to both Gnome and KDE.
can you make a video about wayland compositors, i recently switched to hyprland to test it out. it would be nice to get your opinion on wayland compositors!
I installed the official fedora 40 with gnome. Then I used dnf to install plasma as a secondary desktop. It majorly messed up my gnome theme. I tried to delete a couple of hidden files in the home directory for the gtk theme, but that didn’t fix it either. I had to completely re-install.
yes it should its like windows but really good
Gorgeous distro. Has Fedora fixed that codec issue yet?
Yeah, that's a pretty annoying problem. There should at least be an easier way to fix it.
It still doesn't come with codecs installed by default but a single command in the terminal solves that or else you can use the flatpak version of firefox which includes the codecs for online streaming.
@@leemanwrong And if you don't use Firefox?
@cameronbosch1213 then just install the codecs lol?
@@cameronbosch1213 You can use one of the other browsers available in the flatpak format librewolf, waterfox, brave, chrome, edge, vivaldi, opera etc...
I have Windows 10 and I want to learn Linux, can I install fedora in laptop and use terminal, because doesn't fedora 40 doesn't work in virtual machine
I don't mind seeing some of the provided wallpapers. It's become a sort of hobby of mine to collect and modify images for desktop wallpaper use.
Please make a video on Fedora XFCE spin for gaming on old devices.
Can you get EVERY FONT available in Microsoft Windows, for - Fedora Linux?
Is it possible to use a Linux distro, IE your account WITHOUT a username and password?
I get regular crashes of plasmashell, but at least the recovery of plasma shell works well
Ubuntu is best for Enterprise environments. Fedora is rock solid stable.
What's up with all these flatpak? Installed fedora + nvidia driver and found like 5 giga of flatpak, there's a specific reason? This don't happen with arch or manjaro
Are you unaware that arch is lighter and more DIY version of linux?
@@balsalmalberto8086 Manjaro don't have this "flatpak prob" too, endevour idem not idea about debian because i don't like it, but still
Fedora is too bleeding edge for me. But, I've been a Kubuntu user since my dad gave me a used Dell laptop on it when I was a kid.
Kubuntu is a fine middle ground. Kubuntu will just work and that is a good thing.
It's cool that your dad's also a Linux user. He still use Kubuntu today? 🤔
Bleeding edge means untested packages.
@DistroTube, A Hyprland video from you would be fantastic.
I wouldn't mind it because I don't use Fedora. In terms of KDE Plasma, it's pretty good I suppose, but the lack of tiling is a dealbreaker for me
Just use Super+T and then drag windows using Shift on KDE, the best tiling i ever used, so simple and so practical
@@santobielnrBR I prefer to have tiling by default
I really like the idea of gnome and it's work flow but I gotta say that KDE is better in nearly all ways for me. I would personally say KDE Fedora should be the new work station.
100% agree. KDE should replace GNOME when it comes to that mainstream adoption.
Installed Fedora KDE 2 days ago and this morning Dolphin and System Settings won't open. Off to a great start!
Happened to my, had lots of issues with it, ended up moving to KDE Neon
@CODINGVENTURE Oof, KDE Neon isn't really a daily driver distro though...
They lack a lot of contributors...
@@CODINGVENTURE Um, KDE Neon is not a distro for normal users. They're actively discouraging such use.
If Neon isn't the best daily driver, what would you recommend?
Either Kubuntu LTS, Debian Stable, or Arch Linux-assuming you’re dead-set on KDE.
Issue with Nvidia driver resolved?
Can you do a Solus review?
Now Solus is on v4.5 with a new Solus XFCE Beta option which works really well after installing all updates and restarting 👍
Solus also has a KDE Plasma option.
I'm still on Solus Mate, hope they keep it going since Mate desktop v1.28 was updated in Solus, just that Mate desktop v1.28 hasn't been announced officially.
Solus is very fast and stable with a new round of updates every Friday usually, every 1-2 weeks ✅
Solus is already running Linux kernel v6.8.
The Solus XFCE Beta option runs really well, just had to install Atril PDF reader, from Mate desktop 😅👍
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Stupid question. uname -r is kernel version. But kernel is with a k. Shouldn't it have been uname -k?🤔 Firefox 124. Really? 125.3 is already out. You said Fedora is bleeding edge🤔 I disagree. Dark theme, dark wallpaper.
I wish anything but Gnome was the official flavor of every distro, but I'm hateful like that.
The installer on this one reminds me of the old installer in Suse Linux
The welcome screen's icon would have launched the installer
im surprised kde didnt name the application "NeoKhat"
11:32 Did he really say nautilus 😂
Isn't Arch Linux on the BLEEDING EDGE of updates; Debian is more stable with updates every couple of years perhaps; and Fedora somewhere in between - the Goldilocks update interval?
I have a strange problem with my wifi. After about one hour, the wifi speed is getting very slow. Until that, everything is fine. Anybody else with that problem?
Does Fedora's Dock can be like ubuntu's centered panel? instead of this long ass Windows lookin ugly dock?
Ironically, I found Fedora 40 more stable and responsive than Ubuntu 24.04.
They just need to be like OpenSUSE and give you the option to install other desktops during installation.
They could really learn a lot from opensuse. Like full disk encryption being part of the installer, with snapper configuration and everything by default. I haf to basically go through an arch-like install to get a similar fedora setup (thanks to madhu from sysguides for his guides).
I love it, but Fedora 40 KDE does NOT like multiple monitors.
Honestly I like KDE. However, I feel it is more glitchy such as blips in the code versus GNOME. It is just not as smooth as I want it to be yet. Some diehard KDE users may disagree but I think they're in denial. ;) BTW I'm not that big of a fan of GNOME either.
I love Fedora but it kept breaking on me after a couple of months of use, it just breaks itself for some reason. So I moved to Zorin OS which is the opposite of Fedora, but I like the more stable platform and I don´t feel like I'm missing anything.
Same, Fedora just has issues when I use and I am not a tinkerer. Ironically switching to EndeavorOS(Arch) and now Vanilla Arch just made everything work and I haven't had issues in nearly a year of use.
The installer is terrible. The OS is fantastic. Luckily don't need to use the installer very often, but it is a huge hurdle for new users and might even turn many away from Fedora. They really need to get rid of this installer.
It's not really true that Ubuntu has super tested software and is consequently more stable. Today this is no longer the case and Kubuntu users know it well that they find bugs that have long been fixed upstream, but that the fixes will never arrive on Kubuntu.
The stability of old software is just an urban legend, perhaps true years ago, but not today.
Sway or Wayfire should be the default , after all they are the best linux desktops and they perform fantastic.
How crazy you must be to create a utility like Gnome Software Center , i mean it can't do what it was designed for (installing packages).
Why Gnome Software sucks so much ?
Sad that plasma 6 runs really poorly with nvidia and it doesnt matter if its wayland or Xorg. For some reason I had up to 70% cpu usage when moving a window and the whole thing felt laggy. According to htop caused by plasma-workspace-x11 and kwin. Gnome doesnt have this issue though. Wayland is just a mess with nvidia blobs.
Install-update-upgrade install repositories zero problems since launch.
Reviewing any modern desktop without GPU drivers installed / hardware acceleration enabled in the VM is kind of silly
If you like Fedora and you like KDE
why not just use Nobara?
CLI is the best way to update/upgrade Fedora. Discover sucks.
KDE MILES AHEAD of gnome.
fedora come with too many garbabe out of the box they should give a minimal install option like ubuntu i dont think many people use those games or some apps preinstalled.
The atomic versions come with a very minimal install by default.
Anaconda is being replaced in the next Fedora release but I think they would wait for next April Fedora 42 since Fedora 41 will change the default DNF version to DNF 5.
When are they gonna make themes which are not flat? Flat surfaces and objects are causing ice strain especially for people who have poor vision. Second most people don’t even know where to click anymore. Before things used to be realistic like buttons, you know he had to press or I could press.
Everything needs to be pretty aka destructive
GNOME's LibAdwaita is honestly worse in that regard.
It might be, but many developers have settled on a flat theme because of its cleaner, which is more pleasant looking for people with normal vision. Not to downgrade your take though, light themes have greatly suffered from this.
I like KDE but why change the default? GNOME is an excellent DE as well and is generally a bit more stable overall.
Clearly, KDE > Gnome in so many ways, if it just weren't so hideous to look at.
PS. I also just installed KDE Dolphin on my fresh Fedora 40 Gnome.
watching through this video reminds me of why the average user will never switch to linux on their PC. The reviewer wasn't able to find/install an app from the GUI, and switched to the command line as an alternative.... Fine for techies like us, but not for the average user..... other wise KDE is a pretty looking OS....
Here is my experience: KDE breaks a lot but is a much better approach to what a DE should be like, Gnome is more solid but it is a horrible DE experience unless you are on a laptop. And both of these break with Nvidia+wayland. I am forever stuck on mint+cinnamon. Until Clem also moves to wayland. In which case I can't use my pc with any modern linux distro until I change my GPU in the future.
Perhaps by the time Clem shifts to wayland, Nvidia and Wayland will have figured out how to sit down and talk to each other like adults… 😂
don't search the origin of the everyone knows that/EKT song
Microsoft Browser for other browsers install, Microsoft Windows for Linux download 😂 Microsoft has a good philosophy 😅
I'm not a fan of KDE or Gnome. XFCE all the way.
KDE. Could be. But kde 6 works no good now.
I disagree. I love the Anaconda installer and dislike the ones for Linux Mint and Ubuntu. The anaconda installer is also a billion times more intelligent. It figures out boot stuff perfectly, you can make any partition encrypted and so on.
Hopefully they never change it
Sadly the update nuked my system
workstation edition should remain flagship of fedora.
Couldn't in stall corupt iso finally when I got good iso I failed post boot 6 critically errors don't know what they mean but failed to run live iso no thanks
Fedora is like a gateway drug to arch. Start on Mint, make your way to Fedora, then eventually land on Arch. This is the way
No it isn't, arch doesn't work on my system no issues with fedora. Plus I don't like the installer experience at all
@@Cenot4ph What makes arch different than fedora in terms of running on your system? You on aarch64? If not, sounds like mistakes were made during installation.
Haha, that's exactly my way! I enjoy Arch very much and won't leave it soon. NixOS is definitely the next distro for me though.
@@Cenot4phJust because it doesn't work on your system doesn't mean it's Arch's fault. Sometimes the problem is between the screen and the chair. I am saying this from experience :-D.
My Arch journey ended with key ring problems. Switched to Pop OS.
Fedora Is cursed for me. I3 Is the only spin that lets me boot and gives normal resolution in VM. Otherwise I need to boot with weaker graphics options in Grub and get stuck in lower screen resolution. It's probably Wayland since i3 still uses xorg.
Yeah, I noticed GRUB refreshes the screen kind of slowly, but only on Fedora. On Arch and Ubuntu, it works just fine. And yes, on my all AMD laptop, that's the case. On my Nvidia desktop, GRUB does refresh a bit slowly under Arch, but I am using two 4k screens, so that could be it, and it does work once I boot into the system.
Fedora needs a new installer, good Lord...Its like Debian from the 90s
this comment section might be an awful place to be in about 15mins
You nailed it.
I always enable full telemetry on my KDE installs, because they are not @$.$h00les like Microsoft is.
I hate it with all my guts! I loved Fedora 39 but 40 is crap! Everything is crashing all the time, it reminds me of Ubuntu and how unstable it is. This is a no go for me. I'm switching back to Arch or Debian.
I got so mad at Fedora 40. Firefox and all the packages are Flatpack or Snap and break all the time. When i use a USB it wont mount. So i went backwards to Linux Mind that just dose everything better.