@@JoBot__ You're correct. That's because the fifth in 23edo is so flat, that the functions are inversed. A sharp flattens the note and a flat sharpens it. 16edo does it too. This inversion thing is called Mavila temperament after a village in Mosambique. The 135/128 comma is tempered out instead of 81/80 comma. (edited because I made a mistake) If you want more information, look up this site: en.xen.wiki/w/Mavila_temperament It also contains links to listening examples. I also do an ongoing series, called "Mavila Experiments" because I was heavily inspired by Mike Battaglia's "The Mavila Experiments". Here is the playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLLZE7hMjEXRZI50JGo2JwlJe-LEvIkwGj.html
@@FranciumMusic would you ever consider making videos going more in-depth about the division of octaves and how equally dividing an octave more or less affects the musical function? Pretty niche topic, but I think it'd be really cool.
That's a nice idea which I didn't consider for longer than a few seconds. There are some people going in depth about specific EDOs, but the only ones I can recall now are Supahstar Saga going in depth about 19edo and Zhea Erose going in depth about 31edo. Besides of the xenwiki pages and some people talking about specific ideas in specific tunings I don't know anyone really who does videos about microtonal music theory. Also you might consider that it would be much work for a person to do. And I don't know if I can explain stuff well enough.
i think Francium knows that in meatspace, pianos are not tuned to equal temperament. That's so mean. Even the first example sounds out of tune. Care to add an alternative version using a just intonation?
yes, with only 7 equally spaced notes there is no distinction between half and whole steps, meaning no distinction between major or minor or any of the modes (like the mixolydian part). 7edo is a nice system for playing pentatonic music though
If it means anything to you, I don't have perfect pitch, in fact I'm not even a musician; however, deeply out of tune these and particularly this one sound to me too - which I guess they could be said to, relatively to what we're used to; no worries though, I do grasp the idea, and while it's great for illustration to have some music that one knows how it's "supposed to" sound, one might not do these alternative numbers of division of octaves complete justice other than with pieces composed for / in them... FWIW, 23EDO sounds even worse 😅
I have it too, it pains me because it just doesn't feel right, it feels like my mind is skewed and everything I hear is wrong, since I only knew the most common/western tunings and notes.
Wait, what do you mean by this? These two things in one person? If so, then I am one of these people, even if I don't say so often anymore that I have perfect pitch, it isn't as perfect as the name suggests.
@@StockhausenScores If you open the Inspector (either through the View tab on the toolbar or by pressing F8) you can adjust the tuning of each individual note. Also, you can select multiple notes at once by holding Ctrl and clicking the ones you want, rather than manually changing every single pitch-class by the same amount individually.
It's a limited practice though. This is a song specifically written for 12edo. So, tunings like 19 and 31 are hardly different from the original and some others like 23 and 5 stand out more.
@@cubicinfinity2I think the meantones are pretty noticeably different. The softened leading tone, particularly where it gets pushed full on into neutral interval territory in 19, is pretty striking and weird when juxtaposed against 12. It's not *as* weird as a tuning like 27, let alone the really outré ones, but something definitely feels weird about it, particularly with this sharp, bright MIDI piano timbre.
I feel so sorry for you. And I know this feeling way too well. It seems awful at first but your brain can accommodate to it. Then it doesn't seem bad anymore.
OK so legitimately, when listening to this, I did not hear the shift to 31edo at all. It's been so normalised to my ears that it doesn't sound "microtonal" to me at all.
31 is the logical extension of meantone tuning and is a very good fit for most western music, as it makes many of the chords we use sound great. It starts to fall apart with very chromatic music though.
i've always been interested in microtonality! this is a really good video to help me start to grasp it a little! i grew up with western music theory, so my knowledge of tone is severely limited in regards to the endless possibilities. this feels like a good way for me to start removing that limit! subscribed!
That's interesting... Maybe this perception stems from the 17edo version being between the 22edo and 27edo versions, compared to these two 17edo sounds mostly like 12edo. For me, the major thirds are way too sharp for saying that the 17edo sounds like 12edo.
@@curtisadams6048 I think the difference has to do with the ratios, as the differences between notes in 22 edo and 12 edo cycle every half an octave, making it impossible to play thirds and sixths while 17/12 has every other note match.
It is honestly not much further from 12edo than 19edo, it's just going in the sharper direction so you can't call it "meantone", remembering that 12edo is particularly sharp (but not 100% inaccurate) as a meantone tuning.
Quite interesting! Though I wonder - why is it that the 23EDO sounds closer to a minor key? [EDIT - I see this explained in previous comments now. Quite an interesting phenomenon here!]
I had a very strong suspicion that you were Carmen since I've read that 7edo is your favourite. And I was right! Hello and welcome, Carmen! Nice to see you here! 💜👋
Most of them: funky color palette. 5-edo: didn't buy enough paint, had to paint in black and white. 23-edo: evil mode. 7-edo: didn't buy yellow and blue, had to do all the shading with green.
i hear ever different colors for each version of this, ranging from slightly different than the original to absolutely fucked up and it both scares me and fascinates me oh also my head hurts now
@Francium : Bravo! A great tour-de-force using a familiar piece to demonstrate the different moods (ref. Ivor Darreg) of various EDOs. I like the way you ordered the tunings in such a way that for this piece the earlier ones sound more "normal"/"right", and gradually progress to more "weird"/"wrong".
The early meantones sounded slightly off, but close enough that you could probably convince me it was always like that. Superpyths, not so much. By 5, it's still recognisable, but the 0 cent intervals really screw with it. 26 sounds almost superpyth-ish in terms of how off it is, despite being the exact opposite. 23 is just not the can-can, it's like 5 but worse. 7 should be really terrible, but after 5, 26 and 23, it's an improvement.
EDO stands for Equally Divided Octave. Sometimes you see also ed2, that is the same, since the ratio 2/1 is an octave. There are many ways to do microtonal music.
The fifth is so flat in 23 EDO that traditional chord functions are reversed: major becomes minor and minor becomes major. This is called mavila temperament.
as someone whos generally musically illiterate my thought process the whole time i was watching this was "that doesnt sound right, but i dont know enough about music to dispute it"
this just illustrates how most of western music is built around 12 tet. The piece sounded wonky melodically because western music took advantage of 12 tet's whole step (major second) and the fact that it was only 4 cents off and built around that melodically. Not many edos have a good whole step (31tet has -10 cents, 19 tet -14, 7 tet -10)
7edo sounds like beetwen minor and major, but some parts sound more like minor and others more like major, IDK if it's because my brain mixes it with the original piece, or it's the motif and rythm handling that the composer did.
I just opened this video reading microtonal but i was not really sure what was about to rape my ears. As someone with perfect pitch this video made me cringe so much. Let's do it again! EDIT: I listened to it three times and now I have headache xD
In some cases you could see it as bad tuned 12edo because it is very similar in the use in the diatonic scales. Other tuning systems I used here don't support any diatonic scales because you need certain intervals for the diatonic range which don't exist in these. The argumentation of bad tuned 12edo would be more difficult in these cases.
man, things really need to be recomposed towards their tuning. Even think with something like 19, you can tell when it's been re-tooled and when it was naturally written for the tuning.
I used the 5 to 117 EDO Tuning Suite plugin, which is only supported by MuseScore 3. Unfortunately a microtonal plugin for MuseScore 4 doesn't exist yet.
i know so little of music theory that i would assume that someone is leaning on a piano with a cracked frame at various points and i'm hearing various strings trying to pick up on each others harmonics and getting progressively worse.
19, 31, and 26EDO just sounds like slightly out-of-tune 12TET. 23 and 7EDO sound like the piece has been transcribed to the relative minor key, and played on a very badly tuned piano...
well, most common usage of microtonality in the west is in blues music. microtonality offers the ability to be more in tune (the harmonic series; just intonation) and can really affect the emotion of a piece! microtonality is also found in traditional music all around the globe (central african music, gamelan, arab and turkish music, etc.) there is a LOT of tuning systems and theory behind microtonality. you could check out hear between the lines, zhea erose, sevish, xotla, brendan byrnes, and others if this interests you!
23 EDO is the Can't-Can't
Huh, it does sound to be closer to a minor key than a major key. 🤔
@@JoBot__ You're correct. That's because the fifth in 23edo is so flat, that the functions are inversed. A sharp flattens the note and a flat sharpens it. 16edo does it too.
This inversion thing is called Mavila temperament after a village in Mosambique. The 135/128 comma is tempered out instead of 81/80 comma. (edited because I made a mistake)
If you want more information, look up this site: en.xen.wiki/w/Mavila_temperament
It also contains links to listening examples.
I also do an ongoing series, called "Mavila Experiments" because I was heavily inspired by Mike Battaglia's "The Mavila Experiments".
Here is the playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLLZE7hMjEXRZI50JGo2JwlJe-LEvIkwGj.html
@@FranciumMusic would you ever consider making videos going more in-depth about the division of octaves and how equally dividing an octave more or less affects the musical function? Pretty niche topic, but I think it'd be really cool.
That's a nice idea which I didn't consider for longer than a few seconds. There are some people going in depth about specific EDOs, but the only ones I can recall now are Supahstar Saga going in depth about 19edo and Zhea Erose going in depth about 31edo.
Besides of the xenwiki pages and some people talking about specific ideas in specific tunings I don't know anyone really who does videos about microtonal music theory. Also you might consider that it would be much work for a person to do. And I don't know if I can explain stuff well enough.
@@FranciumMusic understandable, that would be quite the undertaking! I appreciate the reply, I'll have to check out these resources.
I can't help but hear it as an out of tune piano, like a well used one at a bar or something.
19, 31, and 26EDO definitely have that feel!
i think Francium knows that in meatspace, pianos are not tuned to equal temperament. That's so mean. Even the first example sounds out of tune. Care to add an alternative version using a just intonation?
@@David_K_Boothstill sounds out of tune bro
And then 23-EDO is just a case of acoustic assault
This honestly just sounds like the Can-Can but it slowly gets more depressed then 7edo hits and its the French Revolution.
Orpheus in the Underworld ↘️ Orpheus on Bastille Day
@@normanclatcherOrpheus in Moscow
The distinction between major and minor seems to be neutralized in 7edo. It's almost unsettling.
It is neutralised in 7edo. Major and minor don't exist in this tuning system.
yes, with only 7 equally spaced notes there is no distinction between half and whole steps, meaning no distinction between major or minor or any of the modes (like the mixolydian part). 7edo is a nice system for playing pentatonic music though
@@havokmusicinc or heptonic music
As someone with perfect pitch, I was reaching for my paper brown bag to try and grasp for life with when we got to 5 EDO
That's understandable. It is complicated, quite impossible for someone with perfect pitch, to hear xenharmonic music if you didn't grow up with it.
If it means anything to you, I don't have perfect pitch, in fact I'm not even a musician; however, deeply out of tune these and particularly this one sound to me too - which I guess they could be said to, relatively to what we're used to; no worries though, I do grasp the idea, and while it's great for illustration to have some music that one knows how it's "supposed to" sound, one might not do these alternative numbers of division of octaves complete justice other than with pieces composed for / in them...
FWIW, 23EDO sounds even worse 😅
same this was a painful experience lol
Shut up
I have it too, it pains me because it just doesn't feel right, it feels like my mind is skewed and everything I hear is wrong, since I only knew the most common/western tunings and notes.
This makes me want to write Fugue and Cantata for A Broken Down Ice Cream Truck
Plot twist: 5 edo is just a normal recording of a school piano that hasn't been tuned in 15 years
what are the chances?
perfect pitch and a fascination with microtonal music has left me cringing and smiling in equal.measure while watching this
Wait, what do you mean by this? These two things in one person?
If so, then I am one of these people, even if I don't say so often anymore that I have perfect pitch, it isn't as perfect as the name suggests.
@@FranciumMusichow did you do this? I can't do that in Musescore!
@@StockhausenScores
If you open the Inspector (either through the View tab on the toolbar or by pressing F8) you can adjust the tuning of each individual note.
Also, you can select multiple notes at once by holding Ctrl and clicking the ones you want, rather than manually changing every single pitch-class by the same amount individually.
Huh, great idea of using a well-known song for comparing the sounds of different tuning systems
Thank you.
It's a limited practice though. This is a song specifically written for 12edo. So, tunings like 19 and 31 are hardly different from the original and some others like 23 and 5 stand out more.
@@cubicinfinity2I think the meantones are pretty noticeably different. The softened leading tone, particularly where it gets pushed full on into neutral interval territory in 19, is pretty striking and weird when juxtaposed against 12. It's not *as* weird as a tuning like 27, let alone the really outré ones, but something definitely feels weird about it, particularly with this sharp, bright MIDI piano timbre.
i have perfect pitch and was raised on soviet classical. i was dying by 22 EDO. this is something i can only watch one time 😭
Heh, nice username. I also like Shostakovich's work.
It's natural 😅
stop getting so emotional
**cries in near-perfect pitch**
Wouldn't that just be a moan?
I feel so sorry for you. And I know this feeling way too well. It seems awful at first but your brain can accommodate to it. Then it doesn't seem bad anymore.
@@_Pike I know a few people like that.
stop getting so emotional
Crying in 24edo pitch, actually. Real perfect pitch should work in any temperament
OK so legitimately, when listening to this, I did not hear the shift to 31edo at all. It's been so normalised to my ears that it doesn't sound "microtonal" to me at all.
I felt it only subtly differently at first, too. Until it shifted key from D to G major. If I were a husky, I'd be howling at this stage!
31 is the logical extension of meantone tuning and is a very good fit for most western music, as it makes many of the chords we use sound great. It starts to fall apart with very chromatic music though.
Well yeah, it has a close approximation of the diatonic scale. I think you could put most 12edo music into 31 and very few people would notice.
7edo sounds like your sad but someone is tickling your neck
This makes me feel like I'm dying... I listened to it twice.
The moment 19edo hit, I got that feeling where "something isn't quite right, but I don't know what it is or how to fix it"
For me, it was "It's wrong, but I like it this way..."
your feelings were irrational
@@Fire_Axus isn't it truly awesome that feelings aren't based on logic?
@@crimsonplanks623 no
@@crimsonplanks623 yes
i've always been interested in microtonality! this is a really good video to help me start to grasp it a little! i grew up with western music theory, so my knowledge of tone is severely limited in regards to the endless possibilities. this feels like a good way for me to start removing that limit! subscribed!
Thank you!
subscribing!? good idea
You know Zhea Erose? She's been writing almost exclusively in nonstandard tuning systems for the past decade or so
is this what the CIA uses to torture people with perfect pitch?
I asked myself too if microtonal music was used for torture. Then years later I was bored and fascinated by it enough to go through it.
I don't even have perfect pitch and that was still one of the most painful things I've ever listened to.
10/10 would torture myself again.
real
Gradual descent into insanity for both performer and listener!
I would be interested in the tunings common in the EDO period of Japan.
I actually got pain in the middle of my forehead listening to this
Congratulations for composing something in 248971642920edo!
Thank you! This is the great thing about tuning comparisons.
the dude with "perfect pitch": THIS SONG IS OUT OF TUNE!!!
chads: MMMM MIKROTONE
Omg i can’t believe how 12edo-like the 17edo one sounded
That's interesting...
Maybe this perception stems from the 17edo version being between the 22edo and 27edo versions, compared to these two 17edo sounds mostly like 12edo.
For me, the major thirds are way too sharp for saying that the 17edo sounds like 12edo.
I was surprised that it changed less in 17 than in 22. I guess it's that the melody is more important than the harmony.
@@curtisadams6048 I think the difference has to do with the ratios, as the differences between notes in 22 edo and 12 edo cycle every half an octave, making it impossible to play thirds and sixths while 17/12 has every other note match.
It is honestly not much further from 12edo than 19edo, it's just going in the sharper direction so you can't call it "meantone", remembering that 12edo is particularly sharp (but not 100% inaccurate) as a meantone tuning.
I CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCES IN THE FOURTHS
Not sure why I was recommended this but I'm very glad I was :)
5edo sounds like when I'm trying to learn a song by ear and I get the key completely wrong
Feels like navigating around every second stuck key on a dilapidated school piano. :D
This is what it’s like to practice on any non-electric piano in a university music building.
i like how the sharper the generator's fifth gets the more it sounds like 5edo
31edo works really nicely lol
The major 3rds are more in tune than 12edo :)
I like how it gets minor by the end
i thought i was paying attention, and then 23edo
Everyone’s grandma has a piano that sounds like this
Next: Can Can in meantone, Pythagorean tuning, and just intonation
31 is basically meantone already
19 is also meantone, but approximately 1/3-comma meantone
It's like listening to the sound of an Ice Cream truck as the acid starts to hit....
Quite interesting! Though I wonder - why is it that the 23EDO sounds closer to a minor key? [EDIT - I see this explained in previous comments now. Quite an interesting phenomenon here!]
When your toy keyboard is running out of battery
This stings, it truly stings. This is perfect pitch abuse
Even as someone with very much not perfect pitch, it still hurts.
It didn't feel like torture, in my case. It was absolutely fascinating 😁. I also wanted to test my own pitch sensitivity 😅...
23edo has a really "soviet rubble" vibe to it
This is genuinely the most fun microtonal music I've heard in a long while. Loved it!
I really liked the 31 EDO version. The 5 EDO one gave horror movie vibes though 😂
I love these 😲❤
The 7edo one is my favorite 😌
-Carmen
I had a very strong suspicion that you were Carmen since I've read that 7edo is your favourite. And I was right!
Hello and welcome, Carmen! Nice to see you here! 💜👋
@@FranciumMusic😀 😊👋
Most of them: funky color palette.
5-edo: didn't buy enough paint, had to paint in black and white.
23-edo: evil mode.
7-edo: didn't buy yellow and blue, had to do all the shading with green.
i hear ever different colors for each version of this, ranging from slightly different than the original to absolutely fucked up and it both scares me and fascinates me
oh also my head hurts now
i would kill for an extended 23EDO version. please im begging
I already did that: th-cam.com/video/t-AwQiGzwO0/w-d-xo.html
23 edo is my fav, it's listenable and sounds like perhaps a tense chase theme across rooftops in Paris
31edo sounded OK to me
@Francium : Bravo! A great tour-de-force using a familiar piece to demonstrate the different moods (ref. Ivor Darreg) of various EDOs. I like the way you ordered the tunings in such a way that for this piece the earlier ones sound more "normal"/"right", and gradually progress to more "weird"/"wrong".
Thank you very much!
The early meantones sounded slightly off, but close enough that you could probably convince me it was always like that. Superpyths, not so much. By 5, it's still recognisable, but the 0 cent intervals really screw with it. 26 sounds almost superpyth-ish in terms of how off it is, despite being the exact opposite. 23 is just not the can-can, it's like 5 but worse. 7 should be really terrible, but after 5, 26 and 23, it's an improvement.
i couldnt actually notice it for abit but now i do 😭😭
Some of these sound fantastic, and some sound like demented music boxes. Super cool.
5:31 Mr. Incredible becoming uncanny 💀
This is awesome.
Last chord sounds like a landline ringing.
Can-can but it gets progressively cursed. *happy Wyschnegradsky noises*
I dunno what ##EDO is, but hearing through all of these, I think I sing in 26EDO.
EDO stands for Equally Divided Octave. Sometimes you see also ed2, that is the same, since the ratio 2/1 is an octave. There are many ways to do microtonal music.
@@FranciumMusicwhat is the difference between tet and edo?
@@gaopinghu7332 It's basically the same. I used to say TET, but EDO has better SEO as that gets used more often around here.
@@gaopinghu7332they're different names for the same thing. they are synonyms
@@gaopinghu7332standardly, TET is only used for 12
7 edo sounds fricking amazing
22edo sounds like the doppler effect forever
7edo sounds like an ice cream truck breaking down.
"...and in the end, should someone die?"
So cool great❤❤
No 53? 😢
How the hell did the 23 EDO switch it to minor??!!!
The fifth is so flat in 23 EDO that traditional chord functions are reversed: major becomes minor and minor becomes major. This is called mavila temperament.
as someone whos generally musically illiterate my thought process the whole time i was watching this was "that doesnt sound right, but i dont know enough about music to dispute it"
5edo sounds like slendro lol, can imagine it on a gamelan
Tbh after hearing this. I think i need to pour bleach into my ears. To the perfect pitch people and other musicians you know what im talking about.
23edo is so dramatic amazing
7edo sounds desperate, like the piano's grasping for air
this just illustrates how most of western music is built around 12 tet. The piece sounded wonky melodically because western music took advantage of 12 tet's whole step (major second) and the fact that it was only 4 cents off and built around that melodically. Not many edos have a good whole step (31tet has -10 cents, 19 tet -14, 7 tet -10)
7edo sounds like beetwen minor and major, but some parts sound more like minor and others more like major, IDK if it's because my brain mixes it with the original piece, or it's the motif and rythm handling that the composer did.
your brain is conditioned to look for minor and major sounds, 7edo is directly between minor and major.
the 5edo reminded me of another microtonal song (Sevish - Fifteen)
then I realized that's in 15 edo so 5edo overlaps that perfectly
indeed
I just opened this video reading microtonal but i was not really sure what was about to rape my ears. As someone with perfect pitch this video made me cringe so much. Let's do it again!
EDIT: I listened to it three times and now I have headache xD
Could Could
Y e s b y 7 sounds t e r r i b l e
you know what nevermind i take that back
Taking a 12edo song and "quantizing" it to other tuning systems as a form of conversion; that's just badly tuned 12edo isn't it?
In some cases you could see it as bad tuned 12edo because it is very similar in the use in the diatonic scales. Other tuning systems I used here don't support any diatonic scales because you need certain intervals for the diatonic range which don't exist in these. The argumentation of bad tuned 12edo would be more difficult in these cases.
@@FranciumMusic Even for tuning systems that don't have enough keys in an octave to support diatonic scales, "converting" a 12edo song to it is equivalent to changing every of the twelve semitones by a specific value, right? I calculated them in Python to illustrate the point:
[19edo]
0: +0 cents
1: +26 cents
2: -11 cents
3: +16 cents
4: -21 cents
5: +5 cents
6: +32 cents
7: -5 cents
8: +21 cents
9: -16 cents
10: +11 cents
11: -26 cents
[31edo]
0: +0 cents
1: +16 cents
2: -6 cents
3: +10 cents
4: -13 cents
5: +3 cents
6: +19 cents
7: -3 cents
8: +13 cents
9: -10 cents
10: +6 cents
11: -16 cents
[22edo]
0: +0 cents
1: +9 cents
2: +18 cents
3: +27 cents
4: -18 cents
5: -9 cents
6: +0 cents
7: +9 cents
8: +18 cents
9: -27 cents
10: -18 cents
11: -9 cents
[17edo]
0: +0 cents
1: -29 cents
2: +12 cents
3: -18 cents
4: +24 cents
5: -6 cents
6: -35 cents
7: +6 cents
8: -24 cents
9: +18 cents
10: -12 cents
11: +29 cents
[27edo]
0: +0 cents
1: -11 cents
2: -22 cents
3: +11 cents
4: +0 cents
5: -11 cents
6: +22 cents
7: +11 cents
8: +0 cents
9: -11 cents
10: -22 cents
11: +11 cents
[5edo]
0: +0 cents
1: -100 cents
2: +40 cents
3: -60 cents
4: +80 cents
5: -20 cents
6: -120 cents
7: +20 cents
8: -80 cents
9: +60 cents
10: -40 cents
11: +100 cents
[26edo]
0: +0 cents
1: -8 cents
2: -15 cents
3: -23 cents
4: +15 cents
5: +8 cents
6: +0 cents
7: -8 cents
8: -15 cents
9: +23 cents
10: +15 cents
11: +8 cents
[23edo]
0: +0 cents
1: +4 cents
2: +9 cents
3: +13 cents
4: +17 cents
5: +22 cents
6: +26 cents
7: -22 cents
8: -17 cents
9: -13 cents
10: -9 cents
11: -4 cents
[7edo]
0: +0 cents
1: +71 cents
2: -29 cents
3: +43 cents
4: -57 cents
5: +14 cents
6: +86 cents
7: -14 cents
8: +57 cents
9: -43 cents
10: +29 cents
11: -71 cents
i like the last one
If you can tell the degree to which everything is off versus your memory of the song by the first iteration does that mean you have perfect pitch
I'm just curious if all of this was made possible using MusesScore 3's note inspector or the Xentuner plugin for MuseScore 4?
It was made with an Plugin for MuseScore 3 called "5 to 117EDO Tuning Suite", for which the support is discontinued in favour of the XenTuner plugin.
Made me feel like my nervous system is collapsing in on itself🤢
This sounds like a rapidly aging Muttzart doll
Reading these comments, I feel weird for having perfect pitch and enjoying this video
7edo was my favorite….
man, things really need to be recomposed towards their tuning. Even think with something like 19, you can tell when it's been re-tooled and when it was naturally written for the tuning.
27 edo literally turns it minor
5 EDO is awesome.
7EDO just sounds cursed
What plugin did you use to get the microtonality?
I used the 5 to 117 EDO Tuning Suite plugin, which is only supported by MuseScore 3. Unfortunately a microtonal plugin for MuseScore 4 doesn't exist yet.
Sounds like a normal day in 6th grade band/strings class.
Oh my god my EARS. 5 EDO is going to be the END of me.
5 edo is so restrictive it's funny
i know so little of music theory that i would assume that someone is leaning on a piano with a cracked frame at various points and i'm hearing various strings trying to pick up on each others harmonics and getting progressively worse.
Do the whole of Focuses "Carnival Fugue" in 7EDO!
Ps. Wait a minute, that would be "Carnival Fugue" on a Cimbalom!
Can I have your permission to use this at 1.5x speed for a video where I throw a paper plane called “Le Croissant”?
Sure. If you write in the description from where you got it, you're good to go!
@@FranciumMusic will do
Me who hears everything the same...
What ya'll talkin about? It's the same sound? I hear no difference
What is this genuinely? I don't understand microtonality is, or how it works. Did you change all note heights except the Ds (Res) ?
Well, I changed the tones except the A4 which is 440 Hz with a plugin. I don't know exactly how it works tho.
19, 31, and 26EDO just sounds like slightly out-of-tune 12TET. 23 and 7EDO sound like the piece has been transcribed to the relative minor key, and played on a very badly tuned piano...
Did I miss the ice cream van? Sounds like he was driving faster than a fire engine.
Me when too much Vibe Pedal
In alternative reality they are all performances in arabic counries. Offenbach never existed.
Never heard of the concept before. What can this be used for in practice?
Idk about practice but.. saloon music sounds real nice when played in an out of tune piano
well, most common usage of microtonality in the west is in blues music. microtonality offers the ability to be more in tune (the harmonic series; just intonation) and can really affect the emotion of a piece!
microtonality is also found in traditional music all around the globe (central african music, gamelan, arab and turkish music, etc.)
there is a LOT of tuning systems and theory behind microtonality. you could check out hear between the lines, zhea erose, sevish, xotla, brendan byrnes, and others if this interests you!
I kinda like 26 and 23 in a weird way; they are kind of mixolydian and minor sounding, respectively.
Worst thing that could happen is you lose your sense of normal 12EDO.
Right?
What was the software you used to write this?