Yep, this is why if I buy the knockoffs, they are going to be types that do not use a screw attachment to the head as the only or main attachment point. I use/will use a knock off of the Three blade Allen 100 grain that looks like a classic Muzzy design.
I am actually waiting for a set of the black 150 grain heads to arrive and am happy to have came across this video. I figured for the price it was worth a try simply because it looks like a knockoff of the old razor heads from bear. Thanks for taking the time to do this test.
Tied on winner is a nock-off Ensis Duo (left one) and 3rd is a nock-off Zwickey Eskimo. No wonder they did good. I use both and the don't seem any better than the nock-offs. Maybe I should buy them on Amazon in the future. Woodie Eskimos especially have some quality control issues. Up to 10 grains in difference.
The "leaf" style are great for turkey. Carbon Express sold a variety of them that were nicer than those with more blade above the ferule. I took a turkey with one that was a hit on the neck and another turkey that was a heart shot and the heart shot penetrated just fine and nicked the heart but the width of the broadhead basically kept it in the turkey for quite a bit and it took a few steps and the arrow basically got caught on the ground and sliced a big rip in the turkey. I cant find them anywhere now though. Similar to the Massai type broadhead.
I started using some 150 gr Amazon heads this year with flawless results. 3 shots 3 pass thru kills. One of which was quartering hard to me shot right thru the shoulder and passed thru
I bought some of the single bevels. They shot quite well, but if you look at them from the profile, the head didn't appear to be mounted straight up and down. They looked to be a but off to one side or the other. However it didn't seem to effect their flight.
Group 4 might be considered Barbed by your state's rules, look up the rules on broadheads for hunting in your state. They are close enough to the edge of a rule in South Dakota where I live that I am not buying them. Also Rules at one point changed to having to use in South Dakota a double bevel, to prevent some types of Native stone mainly being used or some of the pre industrial age heads. Then in spring Turky they used to have a rule about using 3 blade minimum not sure if it is in the rules or not still but until recently the rules for fall Deer/Turkey and other large game were changed to a minimum of two blades with each one at 2/3 inch minim for the 2 main blades as defined being split by the ferule. Problem was before one could use a single blade edge provided it was not a barb as in the rules of a single blade, they had old rules calling a single blade as a one piece constructed broadhead a single blade when it has two edges on either side. South Dakota fixed this rule because a brand made a non mechanical one blade called the Dakota with Mount Rushmore and Crazy Horse as cheesy drawings on the package. I use the 100 Grain Identical knockoff (from EQI) to the Allen silver 100 Grain model 3 blade in a Muzzy style 3 pack with the semi gloss black ferule with a 12 pack EQI in a metallic/semi mirror green as the spares for blades. It is almost as if the Chinese sell the other models in colors to differentiate from the bare metal model Allen has made for them though a few Chinese sellers of the OEM have started to sell the bare metal/a mirror silver spray model as well but most only sell the semi gloss black, the sparkle metallic red ferule and a blue ferule, and the sparkle metallic/semi mirror green ferule and a gold ferule as the main types due to Allen asking for the bare metal ferule version. I figure if the Chinese model 100 grain is an exact copy of the Allen model and is sold as 6 or 12 pack with 6 being not worth it or the 12 pack around $0--$7 more then the Allen 3 pack with only 3 heads, the brand is worth it even if they are a tad less in quality control. Also, as a mistake when handling I know the blades are rather sharp on the green and black models. I have 100 grain small heads for small game that are a non removable blade model that are also just over the 2/3 inch rule at about 3/4 an inch maybe a bit less so if I did use them for smaller big game, I would not feel bad.
I have experimented with those cheap shots before. I really love them for small game, but I wouldn't use them on big game. If one edge contacts a rock in mid flight it just immediately shaves the serrations right off, however even with the serrations shaved off they are still deadly to rabbits and such
I am testing the Ozcut and G3? Chinese knock offs. They are monolithic stainless steel. They are actually quite tough. Stainless steel harder to sharpen than carbon, but I cheat and sharpen the Ozcut on a grinder (grind very lightly). I have shot Ozcut out of crossbow and Super Kodiak. Fly great with proper spine arrow. I shot at a ground hog with G3 and ricocheted off a rock. Dulled one edge and bent the crossbow arrow, but blade did not bend. I shot the Ozcut into a car tire tread. It penetrated one side of the tire. Plan to use them for small and medium size game where broadheads tend to get destroyed in the ground on pass thrus still having a lot of momentum. I sure they will work on deer size game too. May try that as well during doe meat harvest.
You NEVER Buy CHEAP TIRES and You NEVER buy cheap broad heads! Great Video Guys! That 3 piece Takedown Longbow is amazing! FAST and Quiet! Which Model is it?
I've used knock-off magnus buzz cut broadheads. They work, three deer shot, three deer recovered. Two out of the three bent badly on the longitudinal axis. Would not recommend
Yeah, season before last I hunted with vented version of that one broadhead. The feral was green and weight of 100 grains. I killed 4 deer with them out of a 50 pound Turkish bow at 26" draw. I got total pass throughs on 3. 1 was a quartering shot entered about the last rib and poked out the off side shoulder. Super light carbon arrow but that little tiny bow is smoking fast.
I mean the only real difference in these heads from their name brand counterparts like Magnus is the quality of the stainless steel used at best. I really am not a big fan of the aluminum ferrules on Stinger heads.
I just came across this video, I'm guilty of buying cheaper (( knock-off )) broadheads, My thoughts are, if you're gonna use them as a 1and done then yeah they might be worth the expense, but I wouldn't use them regularly ... 😎🏹🦌PS, I Subscribed ... 😎👍
I bet they all did. They wouldn't have put a spear point on an arrow. I'm sure they were very careful to make sure their arrows flew as perfect as possible
"There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and those who consider price alone are that man's lawful prey."
The stick shooters like the 2 blade. They can't penetrate that tiny board with them, the 3 blade would hbe no chance. I shoot the DeePower 100g 3 blades in my compound and they are perfect.
Anyone who has to spend lots of money on a broadhead, is someone who is hoping to spend money to make up for their failure as an archer. I've killed sheep, goats, pigs and deer with the black dragons, I recommend them along side you guys.
@@greatplainsbow most of my shots are 20-30 yards max so even my cheap arrow at 70# draw goes clear through. Besides most people can’t afford to hunt with expensive stuff nowadays
@@henryquackenbush8226 yeah there's no doubt it'll go through the target even with cheap arrows. It's more about arrow flight than penetration when it comes to cheap vs quality
For target or long distance yes good arrow is great . But since I hunt in heavy brush and wet area once an arrow is fired at a deer it’s gone often forever. So a $6 per shot is expectable lose. But some arrows and broadhead applications can literally cost $40 or up per shot. There are literally $65 per broadhead models that just crazy.
If you’re looking for true garbage in archery products you don’t have to look any further than New Archery Products (NAP), the absolute worst for your money. I can’t believe they’re still in business.
There is always a stopping point. So you just spent 500 on your bow, 65 on some arrows, 60 on a target, and then you see some broadheads that look very similar to 60 dollar ones for 20 dollars and you think to yourself heck that's going to do damage, they're just razors on field points.
@@tolt1776 oh thank goodness! We've been trying to reach you to get your opinion on this.....we were just so confused about this video, but now we know. Thank you so much.....we aren't worthy
@@tolt1776 yes indeed. We were wondering if it would be too much trouble for you to send us a manual on what are good broadheads and arrows? We'd be more than happy to feature it on TH-cam. We'd make a special video for it.
Do you hear that? Yeah. That's the sound of your deer running away. 🤣😂
Yep, this is why if I buy the knockoffs, they are going to be types that do not use a screw attachment to the head as the only or main attachment point. I use/will use a knock off of the Three blade Allen 100 grain that looks like a classic Muzzy design.
@caseysmith544 why? Buy broadheads you can actually reuse and sharpen aka VPA
You guys are a hoot! Very entertaining. Thanks for the test. Interesting results.
I am actually waiting for a set of the black 150 grain heads to arrive and am happy to have came across this video. I figured for the price it was worth a try simply because it looks like a knockoff of the old razor heads from bear. Thanks for taking the time to do this test.
if it gets you in the woods enjoying your passion and sharing tradition ,I'm all for it✌
Thanks. I feel much better about my not hitting the center of the target. I also shoot instinctively.
Tied on winner is a nock-off Ensis Duo (left one) and 3rd is a nock-off Zwickey Eskimo. No wonder they did good. I use both and the don't seem any better than the nock-offs. Maybe I should buy them on Amazon in the future. Woodie Eskimos especially have some quality control issues. Up to 10 grains in difference.
The "leaf" style are great for turkey. Carbon Express sold a variety of them that were nicer than those with more blade above the ferule. I took a turkey with one that was a hit on the neck and another turkey that was a heart shot and the heart shot penetrated just fine and nicked the heart but the width of the broadhead basically kept it in the turkey for quite a bit and it took a few steps and the arrow basically got caught on the ground and sliced a big rip in the turkey. I cant find them anywhere now though. Similar to the Massai type broadhead.
I started using some 150 gr Amazon heads this year with flawless results. 3 shots 3 pass thru kills. One of which was quartering hard to me shot right thru the shoulder and passed thru
Awesome test!
I bought some of the single bevels. They shot quite well, but if you look at them from the profile, the head didn't appear to be mounted straight up and down. They looked to be a but off to one side or the other. However it didn't seem to effect their flight.
Were any of them sharpened by you guys before shooting?
Those black 150 grn work good too but they break easily as its a mild steel
Group 4 might be considered Barbed by your state's rules, look up the rules on broadheads for hunting in your state. They are close enough to the edge of a rule in South Dakota where I live that I am not buying them.
Also Rules at one point changed to having to use in South Dakota a double bevel, to prevent some types of Native stone mainly being used or some of the pre industrial age heads. Then in spring Turky they used to have a rule about using 3 blade minimum not sure if it is in the rules or not still but until recently the rules for fall Deer/Turkey and other large game were changed to a minimum of two blades with each one at 2/3 inch minim for the 2 main blades as defined being split by the ferule. Problem was before one could use a single blade edge provided it was not a barb as in the rules of a single blade, they had old rules calling a single blade as a one piece constructed broadhead a single blade when it has two edges on either side. South Dakota fixed this rule because a brand made a non mechanical one blade called the Dakota with Mount Rushmore and Crazy Horse as cheesy drawings on the package.
I use the 100 Grain Identical knockoff (from EQI) to the Allen silver 100 Grain model 3 blade in a Muzzy style 3 pack with the semi gloss black ferule with a 12 pack EQI in a metallic/semi mirror green as the spares for blades. It is almost as if the Chinese sell the other models in colors to differentiate from the bare metal model Allen has made for them though a few Chinese sellers of the OEM have started to sell the bare metal/a mirror silver spray model as well but most only sell the semi gloss black, the sparkle metallic red ferule and a blue ferule, and the sparkle metallic/semi mirror green ferule and a gold ferule as the main types due to Allen asking for the bare metal ferule version. I figure if the Chinese model 100 grain is an exact copy of the Allen model and is sold as 6 or 12 pack with 6 being not worth it or the 12 pack around $0--$7 more then the Allen 3 pack with only 3 heads, the brand is worth it even if they are a tad less in quality control. Also, as a mistake when handling I know the blades are rather sharp on the green and black models.
I have 100 grain small heads for small game that are a non removable blade model that are also just over the 2/3 inch rule at about 3/4 an inch maybe a bit less so if I did use them for smaller big game, I would not feel bad.
That's the same box my Amazon flashlight came in , with the same label
Thats funny 😆
What arrows are you using?
You check out the cold steel cheap shot bone saw broadheads I only have 3, saw some werid ones Rexpid Nuri Rotary Wing Blade Broadheads 125 grams
I have experimented with those cheap shots before. I really love them for small game, but I wouldn't use them on big game. If one edge contacts a rock in mid flight it just immediately shaves the serrations right off, however even with the serrations shaved off they are still deadly to rabbits and such
I am testing the Ozcut and G3? Chinese knock offs. They are monolithic stainless steel. They are actually quite tough. Stainless steel harder to sharpen than carbon, but I cheat and sharpen the Ozcut on a grinder (grind very lightly). I have shot Ozcut out of crossbow and Super Kodiak. Fly great with proper spine arrow. I shot at a ground hog with G3 and ricocheted off a rock. Dulled one edge and bent the crossbow arrow, but blade did not bend. I shot the Ozcut into a car tire tread. It penetrated one side of the tire. Plan to use them for small and medium size game where broadheads tend to get destroyed in the ground on pass thrus still having a lot of momentum. I sure they will work on deer size game too. May try that as well during doe meat harvest.
Thanks! Great info!
You NEVER Buy CHEAP TIRES and You NEVER buy cheap broad heads! Great Video Guys! That 3 piece Takedown Longbow is amazing! FAST and Quiet! Which Model is it?
That's the 3-piece longbow
Yep the black 150s are awesome. Killed 2 with the same head and still shootable. Very little blood tho so shoot low
I've used knock-off magnus buzz cut broadheads. They work, three deer shot, three deer recovered. Two out of the three bent badly on the longitudinal axis. Would not recommend
Yeah, season before last I hunted with vented version of that one broadhead. The feral was green and weight of 100 grains. I killed 4 deer with them out of a 50 pound Turkish bow at 26" draw. I got total pass throughs on 3. 1 was a quartering shot entered about the last rib and poked out the off side shoulder. Super light carbon arrow but that little tiny bow is smoking fast.
I've got the leaf shaped ones in 100gr and get pass through on pigs with a 50 lb bow
@Ethan Amidon glad to hear they are working for you out in the real world! We sure liked the look of them.
Nice test!
what arrows does he use ?
Those are the Easton Carbon Legacy arrows
Cool test mates
Hey cool video thanks for sharing the information
No problem. Thanks for the positive feedback!
Pick up some Deep power 1.5, they are fantastic Broadheads once you sharpen them lol
I mean the only real difference in these heads from their name brand counterparts like Magnus is the quality of the stainless steel used at best. I really am not a big fan of the aluminum ferrules on Stinger heads.
But I only use cheap heads and arrows when hunting in the swamp because once it goes through you will 99% loose that arrow
I agree with your logic.
The way I see it is like this: whatever kills
A will a cheap broadhead kill? Y/N
If Yes, then it's perfectly fine to use
I just came across this video, I'm guilty of buying cheaper (( knock-off )) broadheads, My thoughts are, if you're gonna use them as a 1and done then yeah they might be worth the expense, but I wouldn't use them regularly ... 😎🏹🦌PS, I Subscribed ... 😎👍
Welcome to the channel!
Wonder how many Native Americans weighed they're arrowheads and sorted them.
I bet they all did. They wouldn't have put a spear point on an arrow. I'm sure they were very careful to make sure their arrows flew as perfect as possible
@@greatplainsbow perhaps
"There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and those who consider price alone are that man's lawful prey."
Deepower broadheads on Amazon is where it's at
The stick shooters like the 2 blade. They can't penetrate that tiny board with them, the 3 blade would hbe no chance. I shoot the DeePower 100g 3 blades in my compound and they are perfect.
I just read the truth about amazon... and thought you were writing about the new Rings of Power series haha
@Marshall Strider well the truth about that is there hasn’t been enough bow action in the first two episodes.
@@greatplainsbow That's true for sure ^^
But I think it won't live up to LotR/Legolas!
@Marshall Strider I do not think Legolas action scenes will ever be topped.
@@greatplainsbow That's for sure! Legolas is hard to beat.
Im not so impressed by RoP so far
Anyone who has to spend lots of money on a broadhead, is someone who is hoping to spend money to make up for their failure as an archer. I've killed sheep, goats, pigs and deer with the black dragons, I recommend them along side you guys.
Since most people lose there arrows why spend ton of Money. Even cheap arrows kill deer
There's a huge performance difference between cheap arrows and high quality arrows. It may mean the difference in a great shot or a poor shot
@@greatplainsbow most of my shots are 20-30 yards max so even my cheap arrow at 70# draw goes clear through. Besides most people can’t afford to hunt with expensive stuff nowadays
@@henryquackenbush8226 yeah there's no doubt it'll go through the target even with cheap arrows. It's more about arrow flight than penetration when it comes to cheap vs quality
For target or long distance yes good arrow is great . But since I hunt in heavy brush and wet area once an arrow is fired at a deer it’s gone often forever. So a $6 per shot is expectable lose. But some arrows and broadhead applications can literally cost $40 or up per shot. There are literally $65 per broadhead models that just crazy.
What no Spin Test!
I know you eat everything you shoot but maybe don't eat the MDF...
Too late.....
@@greatplainsbow Ha!!
If you’re looking for true garbage in archery products you don’t have to look any further than New Archery Products (NAP), the absolute worst for your money. I can’t believe they’re still in business.
I'm allways sour on fucking up food in demos/ tests.
Does it make you feel better that we still ate it?
If you cant afford an extra $30 for broadheads maybe skip getting starbucks one or two days.....
Very True. There are some people that are on a pretty tight budget however, and can't afford Starbucks or high dollar broadheads
There is always a stopping point. So you just spent 500 on your bow, 65 on some arrows, 60 on a target, and then you see some broadheads that look very similar to 60 dollar ones for 20 dollars and you think to yourself heck that's going to do damage, they're just razors on field points.
Check out deepower broadheads
D.P. broadheads are actually awesome 👌
This is dumb....VPA or sirius
@@tolt1776 oh thank goodness! We've been trying to reach you to get your opinion on this.....we were just so confused about this video, but now we know. Thank you so much.....we aren't worthy
@greatplainsbow cool you're also a narcissistic gaslighting white liberal lol
@@greatplainsbow must be why you replied so fast on a Sunday morning 😅🤣😂
@@tolt1776 yes indeed. We were wondering if it would be too much trouble for you to send us a manual on what are good broadheads and arrows? We'd be more than happy to feature it on TH-cam. We'd make a special video for it.
@greatplainsbow you should just read the ashby reports and make your own mind up. If you are a visual learner Troy Fowler has good content.