Thanks for the addition! That is correct, almost all Arai helmets also include exhausts underneath the neck in addition to any other air outlets elsewhere on the helmet. Thanks for the comment! What are your thoughts on the Concept-X?
@@Championhelmets which should affect the ventilation factor significantly therefore increasing the Arais total average score bringing it on the same level.
I might have to pick up a Glamster. I sit behind a windshield so noise isn't a big deal. The weight of an open face makes it pretty appealing. I'll have to give it a fit to see how much worse it is compared to my other Shoeis first though.
We were also surprised by how light the helmet itself was. It's definitely a good idea to compare though, since we did find that there was some difference in terms of how comfortable the helmet was compared to other Shoeis. Did any of the other results from the road test stand out to you?
Is there a reason why these helmets aren't being release in the US? Also I've seen the Arai called the Rapide in other videos. Is this just because it's in a different market? Lastly are there other models that these manufacturers have in the US that you would say are comparable fit wise so I can try those on to see how these would fit?
At the moment, we're not really sure why they're haven't been rolled out in the US yet. Sometimes the grounds for this can be to do with different certification requirements, but sometimes there are other reasons. That's correct, the Neo Rapide is the Concept-X designed for different markets. You may find the Arai Renegade-V / Defiant-X will have a similar fit to the Concept-X if you wanted to try it out, it should be something around an intermediate oval
Though color can play a small role in temperature, we have not found this to be significant during our helmet road tests. We have also tested a number of other black helmet that were much cooler than the Concept-X (such as the Arai Tour X4 or AGV X3000), and we have tested several white helmets that came in hotter than the Glamster (such as the Shoei Hornet ADV). Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the helmets we tested out?
Thanks for the suggestion! Unfortunately we don't currently sell Bell or Origine helmets so we haven't had a chance to road test them. But we are going to compare the AGV X3000 very soon, and the results already look interesting. Which retro helmets are you currently thinking of going for?
Thanks for the suggestion! The V90 is already high up on our list, and we're looking forward to seeing how it will compare to its retro competition. What are your thoughts on the helmets we tested out?
Thanks for the question! The two closest fair comparisons that we've road tested are the Profile-V and the Renegade-V. On our Profile-V road test we found it ventilated as poorly as the Neo Rapide / Concept-X. However, when we road tested the Renegade-V we found it ventilated substantially better (earning 4 stars). What do you think of the Concept-X?
@@Championhelmets Thank you for the reply. I am surprised that profile-v performs about the level of concept-x. I love the style of concept-x, but I am a bit on the fence due to the ventilation. Where I live can be humid and hot.
If you're between the Concept-X and the Profile-V, then the Profile-V would still be the better option. Since the helmets has more vents, it will still offer more options in where you want airflow, and it also performs better in other areas as well such as comfort and noise.
Die Geräuschmessung im Test finde ich klasse. Endlich einmal jemand der diesen wichtigen Punkt berücksichtigt. Könnt ihr sagen welches Helme hierbei am Besten abschneiden? Welche die leisen sind? LG
Danke für den Kommentar! Beide Helme haben unterschiedliche Stärken. Der Glamster ist leiser und leichter, aber der Concept-X ist viel komfortabler. Die besten und leisesten Helme insgesamt finden Sie hier: th-cam.com/video/1uk_m9olOdE/w-d-xo.html
@@Championhelmets Danke für die Antwort. Werde eure Videos weiter verfolgen. Die Geräuschmessung hilft uns Geld zu sparen und den richtigen Helm zu kaufen :)
Thanks for the question! Shoei use one size chart for all their helmets, so it shouldn't be any different with the Glamster. What did you think of the Glamster on our road test?
Hey there! We ended up not including the X3000 too much in this video since we'll be coming out with a retro helmet guide very soon where we discuss all three together. But until then, we do have an AGV X3000 road test here where we discuss the comfort, ventilation, and more: th-cam.com/video/CPxdZxC4PwU/w-d-xo.html Which retro helmets are you considering?
Ideally, the two helmets would be the same color. However, as we've continued testing out helmets we've found that this difference is usually very small since the ventilation usually compensates for this. For example, even when we've tested black helmets like the AGV Sportmodular in the height of summer it still managed a great ventilation result. Given how big the ventilation difference was on the Concept-X, it's main downfall was the lack of ventilation rather than the color. Thanks for the question! What do you think of the two helmets?
@@Championhelmets hmmm... well that's good to know. I think they both look amazing. Arai apparently being track ready is interesting because I'm an aggressive rider, however the weight and price of the glamster just makes it hard to pass up for simple street riding. Any news on when the free visors will become available for the Glamster?
@@Bingomandingo Whatever downfalls in performance the two may have, they definitely both look incredible. According to Shoei, the CPB-1 Glamster visors should be coming out around the end of August. However, depending on how things go, there's a chance they may still come out later
It sure did, and we were astonished with how the Concept-X really did out on the road. While it was more comfortable, we'd really hoped for more from the ventilation and the noise. Did any of the other results from our road test surprise you?
Arai has just released the updated XE 3 years later and yet neither of these helmets are available in the USA yet. I just don’t understand why they let the Bell Bullit have majority share in sales. Shame as I love the look but every review says they are super loud at highway speeds which keeps me from buying one. Sad coming from a great company like Bell they would release such a poor performing helmet.
Took my Glamster out for its first ride yesterday on my naked. Coming from a Shoe RF1200 I can say the Glamster is extremely loud. Wind rushes up just under the ears. For short city rides with my RF1200 I never needed ear plugs but with the Glamster I definitely will. A little disappointed. On the other hand, it’s extremely comfortable. Even more comfy than my 1200.
It's a shame about the noise, though it does make sense considering retro helmets often don't quite perform to the same level as something like a sport-touring helmet. That being said, we had raised our hopes a bit with the Shoei Glamster. Nonetheless, thanks for letting us know how you found the helmet, we appreciate it! How have you found the Glamster for ventilation?
@@Championhelmets Ventilation has been much better than the RF1200, but I assume that's because of the all the wind rushing up into the ears and not necessarily the vents themselves. The other thing I forgot to mention is the visor, it doesn't click into multiple positions like the RF1200. It basically has closed, middle, open. When "closed" but not locked, there is some air that gets in that helps ventilation. All in all, they really could have just used the same system as the CWR-1 but for some strange reason they didnt .
That's a fair assumption. It's a pity that Shoei and even Arai went slightly too retro in their helmet designs in several areas, especially the visor, that would not have affected the overall look very much. Hopefully, next time we'll get a helmet with a bit more of a focus on ease of use since Shoei have already ticked the ventilation box. Thanks for the reply!
Because of the Concept-X's greater noise level (106dB) and weaker ventilation (+7) degrees, it earns 2 stars less than the Shoei in both categories. We were hoping for a stronger showing, but this was what our data was showing. Thanks for the comment! What are your thoughts on the two helmets?
Arai missed an opportunity here ... They stuffed this up by trying to appeal to too many audiences; the retro/cafe thing is all about appearances (basic safety standards are assumed/just expected), and they missed that mark ...
Once of the major areas we'd hoped the Concept-X would have performed better in was either ventilation or noise isolation, since they're usually inversely related. Either way, we still have a ways to go before we get a retro helmet with the features/performance to match the looks
Champion Helmets - I think it would need to be noise isolation ... vents tend to ruin the retro look (for obvious reasons - they didn’t used to have them!!) , imho ... which of course sucks, because one can always wear earplugs, but one does not always want to have one’s visor open 🤦🏻♂️ ... Perhaps impracticality is just inextricably linked with/baked into ‘the authentic retro look’ ... ? 🤷🏻♂️
That does seem to be part of the issue. Though AGV still managed to deal with it fairly well with the X3000, so it is possible to build a retro helmet that ticks at least some of the boxes. Thanks for the comment!
Concept-X all the way!
That 80's, aggressive streetfighter/naked bike look is gorgeous shaping!
Now this is a review!
Thank you for the great test! Appreciate your experience.
Thanks for the feedback, we appreciate it!
What did you think of the helmets?
The Arai also vents from the back of the neck. Not just the two small vents on the shell.
Thanks for the addition! That is correct, almost all Arai helmets also include exhausts underneath the neck in addition to any other air outlets elsewhere on the helmet. Thanks for the comment!
What are your thoughts on the Concept-X?
@@Championhelmets which should affect the ventilation factor significantly therefore increasing the Arais total average score bringing it on the same level.
I might have to pick up a Glamster. I sit behind a windshield so noise isn't a big deal. The weight of an open face makes it pretty appealing. I'll have to give it a fit to see how much worse it is compared to my other Shoeis first though.
We were also surprised by how light the helmet itself was. It's definitely a good idea to compare though, since we did find that there was some difference in terms of how comfortable the helmet was compared to other Shoeis.
Did any of the other results from the road test stand out to you?
Great road test thank you
Thanks for the feedback! In the end, would you go for the Glamster or the Concept-X?
Thanks nice road test i prefer the glamster.
Is there a reason why these helmets aren't being release in the US? Also I've seen the Arai called the Rapide in other videos. Is this just because it's in a different market? Lastly are there other models that these manufacturers have in the US that you would say are comparable fit wise so I can try those on to see how these would fit?
At the moment, we're not really sure why they're haven't been rolled out in the US yet. Sometimes the grounds for this can be to do with different certification requirements, but sometimes there are other reasons. That's correct, the Neo Rapide is the Concept-X designed for different markets. You may find the Arai Renegade-V / Defiant-X will have a similar fit to the Concept-X if you wanted to try it out, it should be something around an intermediate oval
Can you also do a comparison on HJC v10 with these 2? Despite the price range difference. Thanks.
seems like the temperature results could be affected by the arai helmet tested being black in color and the shoei helmet being white
Though color can play a small role in temperature, we have not found this to be significant during our helmet road tests. We have also tested a number of other black helmet that were much cooler than the Concept-X (such as the Arai Tour X4 or AGV X3000), and we have tested several white helmets that came in hotter than the Glamster (such as the Shoei Hornet ADV).
Thanks for the question!
What are your thoughts on the helmets we tested out?
Why wouldn’t you simply test both helmets on the same day?
Along with these can you also compare the BELL Bullitt, the AGV X3000 and the ORIGINE Vega (also known as the TORC T1).
Thanks for the suggestion! Unfortunately we don't currently sell Bell or Origine helmets so we haven't had a chance to road test them. But we are going to compare the AGV X3000 very soon, and the results already look interesting.
Which retro helmets are you currently thinking of going for?
Hey when are you guys going to test the competing hjc v90?
Thanks for the suggestion! The V90 is already high up on our list, and we're looking forward to seeing how it will compare to its retro competition.
What are your thoughts on the helmets we tested out?
How is the ventilation of rapide neo compare to the other arai helmet? it looks like rapide neo has less ventilation channels.
Thanks for the question! The two closest fair comparisons that we've road tested are the Profile-V and the Renegade-V. On our Profile-V road test we found it ventilated as poorly as the Neo Rapide / Concept-X. However, when we road tested the Renegade-V we found it ventilated substantially better (earning 4 stars).
What do you think of the Concept-X?
@@Championhelmets Thank you for the reply. I am surprised that profile-v performs about the level of concept-x. I love the style of concept-x, but I am a bit on the fence due to the ventilation. Where I live can be humid and hot.
If you're between the Concept-X and the Profile-V, then the Profile-V would still be the better option. Since the helmets has more vents, it will still offer more options in where you want airflow, and it also performs better in other areas as well such as comfort and noise.
Die Geräuschmessung im Test finde ich klasse. Endlich einmal jemand der diesen wichtigen Punkt berücksichtigt. Könnt ihr sagen welches Helme hierbei am Besten abschneiden? Welche die leisen sind?
LG
Danke für den Kommentar! Beide Helme haben unterschiedliche Stärken. Der Glamster ist leiser und leichter, aber der Concept-X ist viel komfortabler.
Die besten und leisesten Helme insgesamt finden Sie hier: th-cam.com/video/1uk_m9olOdE/w-d-xo.html
@@Championhelmets Danke für die Antwort. Werde eure Videos weiter verfolgen. Die Geräuschmessung hilft uns Geld zu sparen und den richtigen Helm zu kaufen :)
any size chart for the shoei glamster? thanks!
Thanks for the question! Shoei use one size chart for all their helmets, so it shouldn't be any different with the Glamster. What did you think of the Glamster on our road test?
You put the agv data in the charts. A shame you didn't included too in the comparative discussion.Is it more comfortable? Does ventilate better?
Hey there! We ended up not including the X3000 too much in this video since we'll be coming out with a retro helmet guide very soon where we discuss all three together. But until then, we do have an AGV X3000 road test here where we discuss the comfort, ventilation, and more: th-cam.com/video/CPxdZxC4PwU/w-d-xo.html
Which retro helmets are you considering?
Wait wtf, shouldnt they be the same color? Wouldn't a black helmet and a white helmet cause different results in temperature?
Ideally, the two helmets would be the same color. However, as we've continued testing out helmets we've found that this difference is usually very small since the ventilation usually compensates for this. For example, even when we've tested black helmets like the AGV Sportmodular in the height of summer it still managed a great ventilation result.
Given how big the ventilation difference was on the Concept-X, it's main downfall was the lack of ventilation rather than the color. Thanks for the question!
What do you think of the two helmets?
@@Championhelmets hmmm... well that's good to know. I think they both look amazing. Arai apparently being track ready is interesting because I'm an aggressive rider, however the weight and price of the glamster just makes it hard to pass up for simple street riding.
Any news on when the free visors will become available for the Glamster?
@@Bingomandingo Whatever downfalls in performance the two may have, they definitely both look incredible.
According to Shoei, the CPB-1 Glamster visors should be coming out around the end of August. However, depending on how things go, there's a chance they may still come out later
Does the Arai Concept X come in three different shell sizes? I thought not..
Arai takes a serious hit from Shoei in this category
It sure did, and we were astonished with how the Concept-X really did out on the road. While it was more comfortable, we'd really hoped for more from the ventilation and the noise. Did any of the other results from our road test surprise you?
Champion Helmets so far just Arai, I’ve got a Chaser X and i’m thinking of testing the Shoei GT Air 2 and the HJC Rpha 11
Fair enough, when you get a chance to test the two helmets out we'd love to hear how you found them!
Arai has just released the updated XE 3 years later and yet neither of these helmets are available in the USA yet. I just don’t understand why they let the Bell Bullit have majority share in sales. Shame as I love the look but every review says they are super loud at highway speeds which keeps me from buying one. Sad coming from a great company like Bell they would release such a poor performing helmet.
cool stuff
Took my Glamster out for its first ride yesterday on my naked. Coming from a Shoe RF1200 I can say the Glamster is extremely loud. Wind rushes up just under the ears. For short city rides with my RF1200 I never needed ear plugs but with the Glamster I definitely will. A little disappointed. On the other hand, it’s extremely comfortable. Even more comfy than my 1200.
It's a shame about the noise, though it does make sense considering retro helmets often don't quite perform to the same level as something like a sport-touring helmet. That being said, we had raised our hopes a bit with the Shoei Glamster. Nonetheless, thanks for letting us know how you found the helmet, we appreciate it!
How have you found the Glamster for ventilation?
@@Championhelmets Ventilation has been much better than the RF1200, but I assume that's because of the all the wind rushing up into the ears and not necessarily the vents themselves. The other thing I forgot to mention is the visor, it doesn't click into multiple positions like the RF1200. It basically has closed, middle, open. When "closed" but not locked, there is some air that gets in that helps ventilation. All in all, they really could have just used the same system as the CWR-1 but for some strange reason they didnt .
That's a fair assumption. It's a pity that Shoei and even Arai went slightly too retro in their helmet designs in several areas, especially the visor, that would not have affected the overall look very much. Hopefully, next time we'll get a helmet with a bit more of a focus on ease of use since Shoei have already ticked the ventilation box. Thanks for the reply!
a bit worse, but two stars lower hmmm
Because of the Concept-X's greater noise level (106dB) and weaker ventilation (+7) degrees, it earns 2 stars less than the Shoei in both categories. We were hoping for a stronger showing, but this was what our data was showing.
Thanks for the comment!
What are your thoughts on the two helmets?
Arai missed an opportunity here ... They stuffed this up by trying to appeal to too many audiences; the retro/cafe thing is all about appearances (basic safety standards are assumed/just expected), and they missed that mark ...
Once of the major areas we'd hoped the Concept-X would have performed better in was either ventilation or noise isolation, since they're usually inversely related. Either way, we still have a ways to go before we get a retro helmet with the features/performance to match the looks
Champion Helmets - I think it would need to be noise isolation ... vents tend to ruin the retro look (for obvious reasons - they didn’t used to have them!!) , imho ... which of course sucks, because one can always wear earplugs, but one does not always want to have one’s visor open 🤦🏻♂️ ... Perhaps impracticality is just inextricably linked with/baked into ‘the authentic retro look’ ... ? 🤷🏻♂️
That does seem to be part of the issue. Though AGV still managed to deal with it fairly well with the X3000, so it is possible to build a retro helmet that ticks at least some of the boxes.
Thanks for the comment!
Am i the only one who thinks the arai just looks like a cheap helmet and not that retro?