Tilta Hydra Alien Car Mount System Video Tutorial
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- Learn how to assemble the Tilta Hydra Alien Car Mount System.
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The Hydra Alien Car Mounting System was designed from the ground up to work in conjunction with smaller gimbals to allow for a lightweight solution to car-mounted cinematography. The system utilizes a highly customizable combination of suction cups and dovetail-like plates that when interconnected, allow the user to fine-tune the exact placement of their shot.
The system also uses a shock absorbing arm to better stabilize the camera for certain shots as well as a spring-loaded cradle head if the intended shot requires that the gimbal be flipped upside down.
High, low. To the side of the car, mounted on top of it - almost any car mounted shot can be configured using the Hydra Alien Car Mounting System. Let your imagination run wild!
Timecode：
0:00 - Intro and Assembly on the Front Corner of a Car
2:58 - Assembly on the Side Door of a Car
4:53 - Assembly on the Side Door of a Car facing Driver or Passenger
6:55 - Assembly on the Rear Corner of a Car
8:57 - Assembly on the Hood of a Car
10:36 - Assembly on the Back Door of a Van/SUV
13:03 - Closing
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I says on the website that The Remote Control Kit offers full wired or wireless control of the DJI RS2 or RS3 Pro. How is the WIRED control implemented?
The Remote Control is now avaliable? whats the name of it?
Which additional DJI or Tilta componentes do I need to control my RS2?
That really depends on your need and what level of presision you want to have.
1st option is to control the Ronin via the virtual screen controller or force mobil via your phone or tablet
2nd option is to buy the DJI base expansion kit for RS2 and control it via the in this kit included remote handle. That means running a cable into the car but will give you control of zoom and/or focus
3rd option is to mount the DJI Ronin S focus wheel, connect a RC remote receiver to it and control the RS2 via a RC remote from inside the car
4th option will be the RX/TX from Tilta that is shown in the video. Can't say anything about that as the product is not in their shop by now
Waited for this so long. I remember using the X5 with the osmo pro on a carmount. It was extreamly expensive for the quality. Now with the Komodo in out arsenal this will be so crazy good!! Thanks Tilta.
good luck using this setup with komodo 😅
@@gearbox122 thanks it will be great. My old system does a good job now. This system will be much quicker to set up though because its not that clunky.
@@gearbox122 Why would the Hydra Alien be an issue with Komodo?
Can’t wait to try this out !
I can’t wait to get mine!
Okay, now that's something I could use!
Awesome! Can’t wait to get one
Walter, I love your voice.
Wow!? Hire a grip or rigging grip to teach this. You are missing some serious safety measures that could end in catastrophic failure. For example, 1) no safety chains connected to the "dovetails". Camera falls off someone is getting injured. 2) There is a single point of failure (1:07) if that washer fails or comes loose, the entire from the arm across goes down. Again, no redundancies, and not even a safety chain connecting it to something if it does fall. The people watching these videos are going to do exactly how you show them. You might consider refilming this with some additional safety measures. People are going to be indy filming on roads and you will put other drivers at risk by not following some basic steps. Seriously unprofessional Tilta. Overlooked safety precautions is how people get hurt or die on set. Be a part to assist in making sets safer, please.
Man I was really thinking about the single points of failure here, glad to know I'm not nuts.
@@ConnerMainChannel You're not nuts. Thinking of safety is GOOD filmmaking, period. Ironically I saw this video and posted the comment on feb 20th. The anniversary of Sarah Jones death. Thinking in terms of safety is a top priority over "getting the shot". Stupid decisions and unmitigated risk get people hurt or killed. End of story. If someone can't see why this video/product as is is dangerous in this instructional, they have absolutely no business buying this product or any other car rig until they are taught how to use the gear safely. Shame on Tilta.
But the music in this tutorial makes it safe!
As an indy filmmaker, I'm very happy for such a comment. I can't buy this setup right now, but if I could, I would think "Yeah, that's gonna hold without any safety measures." Thank you for your comment!
Just got mine and I’m loving it!
Where did you order yours from?
Dang, I ordered mine from B and H and haven't heard a thing.
Can you upload some footage using the arm? They don't show any samples in this video which is usually a bad sign that their product isn't working absolutely perfect. They drive quite slow and yet you can see a shaky cam
hey @@bachvisuals1717 did u end up ordering this piece of equipment? if so what's your thoughts ? huge fan of your work keep killing it.
Some added security precautions would be nice. I love the machining and anodizing Tilta uses though.
Great video! Question: Any chance there will be suction cups available with big magnets integrated or magnets with rubber to give additional peace of mind?
Would like to know if I'm drifting in my 180SX at high speeds, can you guarantee me the suction caps on the tilta will still be on my car??
Prolly yes
I here it’s able to hit 65 mph
Sooo does this mean we're gonna get those pre-orders from two months ago soon or....
Great video! Can anyone help with issues of shaking caused by mounting onto the hood of the car? Using ronin S3 pro with Tilta!
What are the best settings for Ronin SC for the rig? We aren't getting the best results as the gimbal is maybe too loose.
That was well done.
Is there a way to use it without the gimbal? Like just the camera attached to the base plate?
I wonder why there is a horizontal shaking of the gimbal on 2:51 This is the most common wobble issue with the most attached small/medium gimbals to the car.
Yeah there has to be an issue with it only dampening vertically.
Same problem here. I just saw a few videos there the little wired part has been changed to way smoother ones. Maybe thats the solution.
can you use this system easily without using the RS2? seems like its too high for some shots.
Does this work with older gimbals like the Ronin M or Ronin S?
Nice introduction. How long does the suction cup mounts can hold those Sony alpha with normal road condition and average of 40mph before they get loose and pump the suction cup mounts? Do they need to attach a string like rope or chain to minimize the risk of dropping the entire system due to loosening of suction cup mounts?
It’s hard to calculate as suction cup‘s have a weight load they can carry (for this rig 2x18kg + 32kg = 68kg equal 150lbs) on their direct mount. With more distance you move the weight away from the cup’s as less the load. I’m sure they did their homework and write 7,5 kg is max load on the arm. Suction cups do always need your attention and nanny work as they all loose vacuum over time. Those need to be checked and pumped constantly during use. Security ropes/strings are always a must with all car rigs that should be a no brainer. The belt in the set is not ideal for car rigging, there are better things on the market. I hope people don’t think any rig or arm is a turnkey device even if this video try to show it like that
@@BeeSView thanks for the detailed response
As a owner of this beautiful piece of kit i would love to see a perfectly fitting 5mm specialtool for tightening the red locks instead of a 4mm hexagon key, which damages those nice locks.....other then that, i just need the Tilta Reciever now 😂😂
Is the RS2 plate included or is the one from DJI?
Excelente.👌🇨🇴
Thanks 👍 you
Only bad thing is for frontal shot it's too high... But good tool to have and I see a problem in the Vmount pinch... With vibrations the V mount will dislodge... Hope u guys include bongo ties or zipper ties to reinforce the V mount or for a piece of mind change Ur batteries to anton stud batteries
Man I would like this to work but seeing the examples (shot through the side window and the shot in the tunnel) it seems to be quite some wobbles. #tilta please post some car to car shot or more examples.
I just tested mine out and did not run into this wobble problem when mounted from the door, undersling. Haven't tried the rear mount.
@@RoyGregorio let me know how it goes and I'd love to see your example footage!
will this work with the rs3?
Hello. I don't have a Ronin gimbal. Which are gimbals I can install? I don't know how to check which screws they have from the specs of gimbals. Can you name other types? I have with me: AK2000s and a Zhiyun Weevil 3. Thank you
I have a couple car mount rigs already. Can the spring arm be purchased separately?
Yes! They will be sold separately in the near future!
Could this work with the ronin M?
Hi , I'm French Filmaker . I will be test new suspension system . I Have the ronin m , but I don't know if you know the limit speed for car rolling ? Because I don't know the limit speed to ronin m safe motors .
Thanks buy =)
Are the original baseplate and security attachment bracket to secure the gimbal with compatible with the RS3 pro?
Yes
Now we will show you how to mount the Tilta Hydra Alien mount inside the engine to boost more horsepower. Jk. Great product.
What is the RS2 remote control receiver module? Can’t seem to find any info on it...
will be up to our website shortly.
@@young890410 I guess it’s not really part of the hydra kit eh. Which gimbal mode is best suitable for being on the car mount?
@@young890410 is that part of this hydra kit?
@@KenTVtw no it is not.
Does this work with FeiyuTech Ak4500
hi, The spring arm doesn't seem to stay parallel with the ground. Even with two heavy V mounts and a 8lb camera set up, it keeps moving up. I've tried to use the two different damperners but they don't full solve the issue. Any help will be welcome. You guys don't seem to go over the second dampening knob on the spring arm
Please shoot our support department an email at support@tilta.com and we will try to help you get squared away!
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I’ve got mine but arm does not fall horizontally no matter how I adjust the spring... it seems doing it’s job but once I start driving it fails to stay horizontally unless I set maximum damping. Is there any setup guide? The manual does not cover these infos
Please contact support@tilta.com for help!
Yup. Mine has the problem also. And it’s extremely shaky. Unusable amount of shake.
At 2:44, I see the operator is controlling RS2 focus with the Tilta Nano's wheel. Any video tutorial of How to work Tilta nano's wheel with RS2 motor, please?
There is actually no motor on the lens in that set up! Unfortunately the Nano Hand Unit can only control Nucleus compatible motors!
This is a great product!
Received the arm today and it does already starts with a defective bended and cracked lever on one of the V-Mount plates new out of the box. So unfortunately first thing to learn is how quick Tilta will take care to keep our things rolling.
Yikes! That's the only part of the system I wanted.
hey man, were you able to connect with any tilta supports?
@@young890410 Hey, I did open a ticket with Tilta regarding this case, other than automatic replies that disappeared into the black hole. My local dealt took care and exchanged the faulty part with a working one from another set.
Does this product work with Zhiyun crane 3 aswell?
Yes!
What line do you refer to when pumping suction cup?
I had the same questions... part of the pump is white...the other is black.. you keep pumping until when released the white part of the pump is no longer visible.
Hi, where I can find a tutorial for the Ronin 4D and the Hydra Alien ? Thank you for sharing, great tutorials !
My same comment 😂 I saw Art Now, post a video but can’t find anything on it.
Everything is the same so far. Get your own full length QR plate because the bottom of the 4D baseplate is open for sensors. Also get the top handle from tilts
I just pre-ordered this and was wondering when B&H will get it in stock?
should be 4-5 weeks.
I ordered mine from B&H on November and still haven’t received it.
@@sergiofilmmaker94 Damn...it finally said "new release" on B&H so I pulled the trigger. I hope it doesnt take 3 more months
is there a tow hitch version or attachment you can buy?
Not at the moment!
Could buy a Ray Rig for that and use the expansion system for the ronin
Can I use also the RSC2 on this Car mounting set up?
Yes! This system is compatible with any gimbal that can mount via 1/4″-20 screws and power via P-Tap or internal battery!
We want to see how it looks with the footage!
I have some raw test footage online on my channel and here is one Pomo video done from some US guys:
th-cam.com/video/-DxnHyXRdJQ/w-d-xo.html
I think you get from both vid what you can expect with the System and what not
@@BeeSView How did you get your footage so smooth? Mine looks like complete garbage. I could hold my camera out the window by hand and get less shakes. Please tell me the secret??
My question is how do I mount my DJII Ronin 4D?
does the wireless receiver come with the arm?
no it is not, it will come out to tilta web shortly.
can I attach a tripod head?
For cheap shooting, use a trunk bike carrier.
One major safety redundancy is to make a belt system that runs flush against the car which can be closed into a door or trunk Incase the suction fails. Small, overlooked debris can make this a death trap for others.
This system includes a strap for securing the mount to your vehicle in the event of the suction cups disengaging!
What’s the payload
where i can buy?
will this work for the ronin S 1?
Yes! You will need this mount: tilta.com/shop/power-supply-base-plate-for-ronin-s/
What’s the speed limit with the system attached?
40 -50km
Can this be used with a Ronin M gimble?
This system is compatible with any gimbal that can mount via 1/4″-20 screws and power via P-Tap!
My two smaller suction cups don’t work straight out the box. Only the big suction cup works. I even cleaned it and tried to attach it to multiple flat clean surfaces but nothing. Anyone else experience this?
Very sorry to hear about your issue! Contact our support team if you haven't already! They'll take care of this asap: support@tilta.com
@@TILTA i did yesterday. Hope to hear back soon, thank you
Are any review units available? Would love to see this in the hands of some automotive filmmakers such as myself
lmao
@@sharkylal the game is the game lol
This sounds like something our marketing director might be interested in discussing with you.
If you would like to contact them, please fill out the form with the attached link and select "marketing" from the drop down!
tilta.com/contact/
@@TILTA Just submitted an email. Thank You!!
@@TILTA when is my hydra alien arm coming :(
Take my money now lol
Will it works with Ronin-m?
This will work with any gimbal that can mount via 1/4"-20 and 3/8"-16 threads and that can be powered via P-Tap as long as the total weight is under 7.5kg!
does this work with ronin s
Yes with this adapter!
tilta.com/shop/power-supply-base-plate-for-ronin-s/
issue with suction cUps??????
The issue has been addressed!
Do you still sell the cart?
Not in the US!
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maximum car speed ?
It depends on the weight of your camera system, how you car mount is mounted, quality of the road and type of vehicle!
We generally recommend around 40 mph for best results!
@@TILTA A month ago im shot for BMW HP4 n tested 2 gimbals RS2 & CRANE 3S with same weight. I think the Crane 3S more tough facing wind. Literally shot at 55-65mph. But im still figure out to mount on Arm rig. Any suggestion guys??
whats the exact setup at 8.39?
you could use wire connection in case wireless fails.
@@aboutbattle at 8.39 they show a nice rig for tablet/ phone, with zoomwheel.....looks great and is pretty much how we would love to setup ours
@@Importracing that's a prototype unit! the real thing is in production right now. will be available soon which is nicer looking and more practical.
@@aboutbattle any chance of an email when available? Would like to get one asap....
guys with this system Hydra, can i use RONIN 2 ??
This will work with any gimbal that can mount via 1/4"-20 and 3/8"-16 threads and that can be powered via P-Tap as long as the total weight is under 7.5kg!
Ronin 2 would be on the larger side and would require a smaller camera system to stay within the weight limit so it is not recommended.
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How do I un-suction the suction cups LMAO
You can release them by pulling up on the small horizontal tab near the edge of each cup!
@9:50
Pretty sure I watched this thing blow Jack Black's arm off in '97...
hm.
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No isolation of the roll axis at all. i've mounted the Ronin RS2 onto the rig and the footage is not stable even when lightly nudging the car.
the mount shakes the gimbal to the sides since there is no isolation from the damping plate and no way to adjust it.
Can you post some footage please, that would help. Thank you!🙂
Please share video of this!
@@RoyGregorio nope sorry no footage. it was useless so we didn't even bother recording it.
@@Mik66Rus it wasn't even recorded, there was no point in recording it
@@dooflexible okay, good to know. Which camera did you use by the way?
Well, here we are. I waited over 3 months (2-4 weeks original shipping) finally received 2 days ago. Solid feeling system. Mounted to car followed directions. Went for a nice short drive. Footage is AWFUL. And I mean really really bad. Completely unusable. It almost looks as if I just strapped my camera directly to the car, it shakes so bad!!! It’s useless.
I’m not sure what to do.
I really wanted this to be a solution to shooting running footage of cars. But this isn’t even close to cutting it. Probably going to have to send it back. :(
Have any clips for example? I’m thinking of ordering it but still undecided!
Hey Toby! Very sorry to hear about your issue. There are a lot of variables with this system and it will likely take a few attempts to get the results you are looking for. Please send us some pictures of how this was rigged to support@tilta.com and we will help make sure your system is performing the best that it can!
@@TILTA I appreciate you guys reaching out. I will do that! Thank you.
Does this work with other gimbals as well? Crane 2S for example?
yes it does work with all gimbals.
@@young890410 Dope. Cheers!
Does this work with the Zhiyun Crane 3s?
yes it works with all single-handed gimbal.
@@young890410 thanks.