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- What does legislation say about the transgender athlete debate? | Outside the Lines
As the debate around transgender athletes continues, ESPN's "Outside the Lines" investigates legislation that limits transgender athletes from participating in competitive sports in Part 2 of a three-part series.
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They should not be allowed, I personally support that everyone should be able to play sports but they can do that by making their own leagues.
Lia Thomas is the champ foh
Again, I'm going to say this for the people in the back that's never going to happen. You're blatantly basically or discriminating against them. By doing that y'all see how many people who love to make fun of the women sports allow the WNBA. Do you really think that a sports league that is just based on transgender is anywhere near fair?.
@@flyguy7825my preschooler is trans
@@flyguy7825Lol why wouldn’t it be fair? Trans girls vs trans guys. It’s not fair having trans girls play against biological girls. That’s dumb, and won’t happen. Has nothing to do with discrimination. Has everything to do with using your brain
Or better yet, why not just have people who have transitioned like male to female still be required in male sports?
I see ESPN’s agenda here. They’re such a joke now, they want to be inclusive when they know things are wrong.
Protect women’s sports
So them informing people like us is somehow promoting an agenda. You sound so stupid
ESPN has showed us time and again that they are on the wrong side of history. When we look back… what will women’s history museums say about the institutions that propagated these neo-Marxist/neo-colonial ideas?
Espn should be ashamed for covering this
It’s interesting that no one brings up the flip side where a woman is transitioning. The conversation doesn’t exist because they cannot compete with men a pro level.
There should be a category for everyone. Male, female and other.
They should compete in their own separate league
Yes let's set up a sports team of 1 kid in Utah..... there aren't enough trans athletes to make that tenable half of 1% are trans girls 13-17. Of that it's maybe 20% play sports that like 100 in thr whole of the country. Last I saw there where only 50 trans athletes in collegiate sports and 12 Olympic/professional sports. And that's a combination of trans men and trans women.
Let biological women decide if they want to compete against biological men. If men shouldn't tell women what to do with their bodies in the case of abortion we shouldn't tell them what to do with their sports.
Women would get killed in the NFL 🤣
Shut up
Separate leagues. Let’s not be delusional in the name of “inclusivity”
The question is "Why should men be allowed to compete in women's sports>" And the answer is simple - NO!
SO THEY REALLY WANNA BRING JWANNA MAN TO LIFE. ITS SO WRONG. THEY CAN PLAY AMONG THEMSELVES
Aye bro that’s crazy, woah
Protect women’s sports. Create another gender less category if need be but biological women should only have to compete against biological women.
If y’all notice there are never girl’s transitioning to be men and playing sports. It’s always guys becoming girls then playing sports.
THANK YOU!! People not thinking on the subject. Too many emotions on protecting the super minority
maybe they participated in the sport their whole lives…?
@@daxxleonard2961 okay, where are the girls who played a sport their whole life then decide to be man and take the spot of a biological man on a team? It doesn’t exist because biological men and biological woman are built different and men are just inherently bigger stronger faster making them better at sports.
Seeing videos like this makes me glad for cord cutting & seeing Disney in financial trouble
‘If you were a woman and I was a man’
And I took it seriously - Kris Tyson
There’s nothing that they could do that would make it okay for these men to take away the opportunities that the women have worked hard for their entire lives. The women and the men needed to speak out and let their voices be heard to stop these losers from invading Women’s sports cuz once it’s deemed to be okay, lots of women are going to lose their jobs because of it
I identify as Jeff Bezos should I be entitled to his wealth too?
All women’s athletes should be trans women going forward.
My algebra teacher got arrested for cooking math in PE class today
Meth?
@@TuckerCarlson-wi7xsyou missed the joke
I say let dudes who think they are ladies compete with the real women.
I say let it hapoen in Boxing, MMA & other contact sports.
We need to prove a point.
A point was made.. MMA had a transgender fight a biological women, he cracked her skull. No woman has ever done that to another woman. Swimming in college… have you ever seen the length of a man body compared to a woman. The transgender won every race and broke records.. Nothing fair about it. If biological men are able to compete against biological women.. women’s sport will be over..
Umm that's already been happening
@@josephatkinson5693 - NOT at levels they should be happening at.
Men and women are different, a trans woman is not the same as a woman!
People seem to be more on the side of taking away opportunities for transgender athletes because discrimination against people like us is embedded in our society. People seem to forget that there is such a small sample size of trans women in sports. People seem to overlook the effects of testosterone suppression on them.
Take it from me, I am a trans woman who runs competitively. I perform worse now among girls in my age group than I once did amongst boys, and I never stopped my training. I’ve been on testosterone suppression for a little bit over a year.
Anyone else cringing?
I believe we need to approach how we think about this a little and base it on science instead of emotion. There should be a XX Chromosome league (called a women's leagues now) and an open league (called men's leagues now) where both XY Chromosome people and XX Chromosome people can play (men's NCAA baseball have women playing now because some are better than men and can compete). There are scientifically proven AND well documented advantages of people who have XY chromosomes and that has to do with the height they can grow to (before a possible transition in gender). Those physical advantages before transitioning cannot be changed EVER and are unfair for people who play basketball and volleyball (among other sports). All people can play a sport AND choose to transition BUT they will always fall into 1 of the above categories which remains the same even after transitioning (transitioning doesn't change your genetics of having XX vs XY chromosomes).
We have mens sports and women sports for a reason. If a biological man transition to a women that then women should still compete against other biological men. Its not hard if not then just unify mens and womens sport and let the best athlete win but i guess thst wouldn't be considered fair
you aren’t accounting for hormones
@@daxxleonard2961 I am which is why I don't think a transitioned women should compete against biological females.
@@daxxleonard2961 Why aren't
Trans men fighting to compete against men?
I'm curious, but what do people think "transition" means?
Sometimes, I get the feeling people think trans identified males go through a surgery to remove their male bits, when like 90% of them don't.
I'm fairly certain the males going into women's sports also are intact down there. I doubt they would be able to compete if they had a hole instead of their male gonads hanging in there.
If males go into female sports, then its not female sports. Dont care how they id....
How about just have a transgender league 🤯 people won’t probably watch it but it doesn’t really matter cause that’s what they signed up for
ESPN = boneheaded for keeping comments on 💀💀💀
We all need to support different leagues besides professional men’s. There’s Little league, AAU, College, Womens sports, Disabled sports, XGames, ESports, etc. So hopefully the future will have Trans sports. It’s not about “fitting in” it’s all about acceptance and support. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a trans league possibly even a trans Olympics. These are great ideas and shouldn’t be shunned by the trans community. I don’t think the idea of starting a new league would dismiss the talent these individuals have but rather it would help display their talents in comparison to other leagues. To identify as a trans person means you were born the opposite gender you identify with so in absolute fairness starting trans leagues is the perfect solution.
Less than 1 percent of the population is trans they don’t need their own league, they need Jesus.
That trans league wouldn’t get no money, no support etc etc. it’s a dead end, wym?
@@sirhoopalot1125 it’s like that for every league I mentioned in comparison to men’s major sports. Look at the WNBA it’s a negative business but there’s still support for it. It comes down to media coverage and the attention we give as fans you don’t think a trans league would make the news or get media coverage? I think it would
@@camping2399 wnba gets tons of support, I mean tons
@@sirhoopalot1125Because there are few transpeople who makes loud noise that makes people think they are much larger group. The whole country is bending over backwards because few individuals shout shout a lot
They shouldn’t be allowed. Case closed. Give them their own league or whatever.
This is what happens when you put the democrats like Biden in office so don’t complain if you voted for him
Yes thank you great take this is all so out of control
I identify as a BBQ chicken leg
Mr. Thomas doesn’t think it affects biological women because he’s a biological male who sucked at swimming, then “became a girl” and is now the best swimmer in women’s sports. But I’m sure all these wokies Ignore that fact.
We shouldn't coddle their fetishes and delusions
They should have their own league, like people with disabilities or handicaps
This has gone too far smh
This is nt a topic of discussion........it is dumb to argue abt this........let trans woman go and play in the NFL......nt WNBA......deranged argument.
This is what happens when you put the democrats like Biden in office so don’t complain if you voted for him
Sorry I'm not from the US. But when the video said "transgender", does that mean the 12 year old already have the surgery? Or is he/she just identifying as a woman, but still with his/her manly bits intact?
Yes. Could be either/or.
In the spirit of sportsmanship ONLY, depending on the sport trans women shouldn't be allowed to compete having a natural advantage, this idea ends all discussions to this ongoing debate
So y'all going to let dudes compete with women. transgender or not not fair at all. For an example I weigh 150. My girl is round 150. If we was in a boxing match you think they will be up here fight. I'm all muscle. She not. Also need knowing that I'm stronger and faster. Doesn't mean she can't outsmart me but 1 hit can change everything. If I connect. My opinion is it just not equal even if you're the same weight.
What about protecting Mens sports from being dominated by female to male transgenders?
Make there own league. Simple and fair. Any opposing thoughts?
Biology will always win at the end of the day
The need to play in the Asylum League
Transgender girls can play with their friends, nothing's stopping them. They don't need to join the official teams and take away a girl's spot if all they want to do is enjoy the sport with their friends.
A man's feelings and pride would be damaged to the point of no return from nationalized TV humiliation LOL
By what?
Meditate on it@@45TWBTNP47
If I was 22 years old (I'm 44) I would say I am woman, just to dominate in the WNBA to prove a point.
Ain't no woman beating me at age 22. I coached varsity basketball and the varsity girls would lose every single time by at least 30 points when they played the freshman team.
They played the 8th grade team and lost by 25.
@@danoneall4013i’m absolutely sure you would lmao
@@daxxleonard2961 - Ok buddy
What are your pronouns and did you take your 6th booster yet?
Not watching the video, just came for the comments.
This is just crazy talk 😂😂😂. Dudes who want to be girls wanna play with women...😮.
I’m with Riley Barker and her cause on this topic.
I Don’t see an issue with team sports. I see the issue with competition sports. Like i Don’t see the issue with transgender people playing on a basketball or soccer team with whoever. But it’s not fair to compete like in a swimming competition or weight lifting where it’s two biologically different humans. Our bodies are too different.
Sickening
No.
Humans are equal and deserve equal chance. I guess it is time to creat legally TGM and TGW.
It is complex situation. In sports tough but education class is same.
That’s a man!
Playing with fire right now 🔥🔥🔥
Just stop this nonsense
Ja morants is trans.
😮😮Let’s have two leagues. Biological Women and Other.
Jesus Christ
My Alaskan huskie 🐕 considered it self transgender so what do i do when i try to breed it? Lol 😂 now it wants to take it not give it lol .. it also a sled dog and now wants to be represented as “it” lol
This is the First Time that ESPN is talking about this on there network
It’s slow
And that’s why you don’t live in Missouri lol
Its a shame I was always taught that life is not fair and it's not especially fair in sports I'm sorry to say but Regardless if you're a man or a woman if you're born with fantastic genes that make you over 6 ft.tall and over 200 lb. You've won the genetic lottery if you won the generic lottery that makes you taller and bigger. Regardless of your a male or female in sports chances are you're going to make it as a professional athlete while the rest of us are trying to make it by jumping through multiple hoops to even get an opportunity. I say all that to say it's not going to probably be in my generation but the next generation will be able to figure this out about transgender athletes because this issue is going away. No matter how many people will try cancel them. Try to embarrass them or show clear bigotry towards them.
😂😂😂 are you trolling? 😂😂😂😂😂
@@atlantasveryown1206Does it sound like I am Skippy?
@@flyguy7825 lol I would hope so. I just didn’t think anyone could be that ignorant and misinformed. Have a good day “SKIPPY” lol✌🏽
@@atlantasveryown1206- you're delusional
I'm 6ft1 and 220. Played basketball, baseball and football at the varsity level all 4 years. I wasn't good enough for D1 schools. Being a professional athlete is like less than 1%
Your facts are not legit.
You're arguing that we should do away wth gender specific leagues then. Men shouldn't be able to decide that they can play with other women. Period. End of story. Transwomen are men or at the least NOT BIOLOGICAL WOMEN and therefore should have no say in the matter.
just make a transgender league