Installing non-Supermicro motherboard in Supermicro server chassis | Supermicro Tech Tip
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ต.ค. 2021
- This is a bit of an impromptu video. I was testing out a motherboard for an upcoming project and remembered that I've been wanting to share some tips for those of you building your own server in a Supermicro chassis. Many of the Supermicro server chassis (Specifically the 825, 826, 216, 836, and 846) are built to E-ATX standards and can be used to install E-ATX, ATX, MicroATX, and MiniITX motherboards from other brands. However, the front panel I/O cable in those chassis are a bit unusual and different. In this Supermicro tech tip video, I'll show you what you need to adapt the Supermicro chassis to work with non-Supermicro motherboards.
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Sad though it may be, hearing @Art of Server saying he pulls motherboards out of his ass has been the highlight of my day !! 😂
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Thanks for the info! Super informative, keep up the great work!!!
Thanks! I appreciate the support!
super magical supermicro rainbow cable
You should have worked at Supermicro marketing. That is exactly what they should have named this cable! LOL
Thanks for your time and effort.
My pleasure!
I just found these last night and bought some. Supermicro did good in this aspect of offering this breakout cable.
You showed a 24 pin extension, but for the PDU I have in my chassis it is the 8 pin CPU that is too short.
Thanks for watching!
I was looking at some solutions yesterday and you post a video :D. What are the odds.
Ha ha ha... I would like to say I can read minds... but I just hope this helped you! :-)
Yes it was perfect
Great info thank you
Thanks for the information--I actually go the opposite way--I love Supermicro (X10SRA-F-O )motherboards and use them in standard cases (fractal designs R5 and R6).
Cool. It's usually not too tricky to mount supermicro boards in other cases, except for the occasional mounting point you might have to add. I have some favorite supermicro motherboards I love for workstation and server builds. For the server builds, I just use supermicro chassis, but for the workstation builds I usually have to use a large PC (mid or full tower) case. I'm kind of liking what phanteks is offering these days...
Thanks for showing that.
hope it helps!
I do build a superMarco build 12 A day 8hrs
nice! :-)
The extending wire adapter for the IO cords was a great thing to see: however, I need an adapter that I can use to connect all those connections from a non-server case to a supermicro server motherboard. Will the one you show work for what I need or is there another I need to purchase?
you don't need anything special going from a standard PC case to a supermicro motherboard. just look up the manual and identify which pins are for what and connect accordingly. standard PC case usually has separate individual leads for each front i/o function.
Great video! I am pulling my hair out working with the CSE-846. Instead of swapping out the psu with 'less' loud psu, are the small loud fans in the psu swappable to quieter ones?
Thanks!
There are already very quiet PSU options for this chassis. Look for PWS-920P-SQ in my ebay store. Much easier this way than trying to hack a regular PSU into this chassis.
Thank you so much, this video has helped me with my 846 chasis. My issiue is how do I get PCIE power to my graphics card? I have 2 EPS12V and a molex left to split.
Glad it helped! You probably need to convert the 4-pin molex to PCIe power. The only other way is to get a Supermicro PDB with the PCIe power leads built-in.
How about removing, moveing, and reinstalling the standoffs? I have an 826 I just bought and a previous owner removed one of the standoffs (maybe to fit the dual ssd caddy) but the board i got for it needs that standoff, how can i replace it? Another option is to try and find another smaller board with similar functionality so i can use the dual ssd caddy like i originally wanted to.
What’s the best server rack case that you can diy a build in like this one but what would you say is the best. But gives hot swappable bays in the front? Atleast 10 or more? Trying to make my first server pc already have a 5700g just can’t find the right board to have all the sata plugins.
If you want at least 10 3.5" drive bays, I would say get a Supermicro 826 or 836. For the 826, try to get a more modern one with the 2x2.5" drive bays in the rear. The 826 has 12x3.5" drive bays and the 836 is a 16x3.5" drive bay. In both cases, make sure you get it with a SAS-2 expander backplane or newer. Avoid the older SAS-1 backplanes, and I would avoid the "TQ" or "A" backplanes unless you're on a very small budget. Look up "Supermicro backplanes" on my channel to understand the difference in backplanes.
Thank you 😊 do you know any cases similar to the old SuperMicro 933, with 15-ish vertically arranged 3.5 drives?
Sorry, I do not.
I'm a bit confused by this video. I've asked supermicro support whether X12SDV-4C-SP6F is compatible with my 846BE1C-R1K23B and 826BE1C-R920LPB, and the answer was - "these chassis only support ATX or bigger motherboards, not flexATX or smaller form factor boards."
Anyway, thank you. I love your channel!
I'm not intimately familiar with the FlexATX format. Does it re-use some of the standoff locations of ATX format? Most Supermicro chassis have movable motherboard standoffs.
If you're doing a new server build, I would recommend getting a motherboard with more PCIe slots. Most people inevitably run out of PCIe slots at some point.
Thanks for watching and hope you enjoy the channel! :-)
Do you have a video for best practices around if you want to use a consumer PSU? Mainly powering the backplane properly.
No, sorry. I do not. The server PSUs are usually better suited, and the Supermicro PSUs are usually very high quality and cheaper than consumer PSU.
I made the mistake of jumping to Dell for homelab stuff. While the R720 was cheap and does provide a lot for the price but man it has so many headaches. And GOD I hate IDRAC.
Supermicro is that perfect in the middle sweet spot. Yes its sometimes a bit more. But you can't argue being able to swap out parts without proprietary issues or compatibility problems.
There are pros and cons for each option. I personally started with a Dell PE1900 many years ago and kept using Dell servers until a few years ago and started using Supermicro. Supermicro has it's drawbacks too and I've actually been thinking of going back to Dell. There's no perfect option, you're usually trading one thing for another.
What are the options to extend the 16 pin front pannel cable?
I am planing on swapping out an X9 board for an H11 board in a CSE-836 chassis. On the H11 the 16 pin header is placed as far away from the chassis header as possible, current 16 pin cable will not reach.
You can use the cable mentioned in this video as an extension. But make sure it is long enough to meet your needs.
Thanks, I ended up finding a longer replacement cable. CBL-0071L
Do you know if the CSE-848 also has E-ATX standard standoffs ? I've found a cheap one and I'm thinking of using a X9DR7-LN4F in one ... :)
I doubt it. That chassis was designed for boards like the X9QR7-TF+ which is very non-standard.
@@ArtofServer That was my feeling too but looking at the manual and where the standoffs seemed to be had me hope a little. Thanks :)
I was looking at your videos for this answer but do the supermicro power supplies have dual PCIE 8 pin for powering a GPU or would I have to use a 4pin molex adapter?
Good question. It depends on the PDB you have. If the PDB is from an older chassis, it probably doesn't have 6/8-pin PCIe power. In those cases adapters from 4-pin molex will be necessary.
@@ArtofServerI may be able to do like an A1000 or A2000 to do Plex transcoding. not sure if I really need a 3090 even though it's a 2 slot unit?
Is there an adapter where I can use a Supermicro mainboard in a non supermicro case?
It's not necessary the other way around. Standard ATX case front I/O leads will just plug into the Supermicro board.
What about using a regular consumer motherboard? What do we do with the OH and Power Fail cables so that alarms don't sound? I'm trying to use a consumer LGA 1511 motherboard with the case and have the adapter but unable to figure out what to do with Power Fail and Overheat cables as the motherboard does not have this.
You can just leave them disconnected. It's not going to cause any errors on the chassis. Those wires are just connected to LEDs, so you won't activate those LEDs if they are disconnected.
@@ArtofServer thanks. What about the PF wire coming off the power supply? I believe that is causing the alarm when the server is powered on. Something is, at least. A red light and a loud constant alarm sounds.
You should probably also mention about the power distributor's PMBus cable as most consumer motheboards will not have a connector for it so no way to tell it things.
That's true for consumer boards, but the PMBus is optional and doesn't prevent it from working. Many server boards (non-Supermicro) do have it though...
What about the back plane and a normal atx power supply?
To learn more about Supermicro backplanes, watch this video: th-cam.com/video/ZhF1rU0X4eE/w-d-xo.html
I also have several videos showing how to uninstall/install them on various Supermicro chassis models.
For a Supermicro chassis, it is much better to use their PSU. They are very high quality, and a lot cheaper than a high quality ATX PSU, not to mention they have the dual PSU setup for redundancy.
@@ArtofServer Sorry I meant the mobo backpane not the HDD one.
does any off-brand motherboard support idrac?
Idrac is a Dell specific technology.
Supermicro chassis are great... I seem to have acquired 8 of them now :-)
Yup, me too. Although I make a lot of videos about Dell servers, that's mostly to help people who have asked me questions about them. I personally run 5 supermicro servers and have 4 spares. What are your favorite supermicro chassis?
But can consumer motherboards handle the power draw of those fans?
depends... they are PWM fans, so depending on how the motherboard sets the speed, it may not draw that much power.
I wish there was a adapter to go from Supermicro board to standard ATX case. that was annoying to do
There's usually no need. The wires from a typical ATX chassis can plug right into the headers on a supermicro motherboard. I've used supermicro boards in several of my builds in typical ATX cases.
@@ArtofServer yes true but i am kind of a ADHD/OCD kind of like the idea of having an adapter, that way even if you don't have a manual for the board, it does make it easier. I have a Supermicro H11SSL-i motherboard (first gen Epyc for my NAS) and the manual is a bit of a nightmare especially for the front panel. Being used to how the traditional motherboard manuals give you a + and - for the LED orientation kind of threw me off trying to work out not only the alignment but the polarity. they are not like desktop boards and i had to actually go looking at other resources to determine alignment and polarity. a breakout cable would help remove that sort of confusion
What about getting the PSU detected in BMC? With Gigabyte
Depends if the motherboard has a PMBus header. Server boards often do, consumer boards do not.
@@ArtofServer MZ32-AR0. I don't think gigabytes ipmi/bmc knows the supermicro addresses/device ids
EATX is not a standard. Nice vid btw, thanks for the info! :)
Oh! That's a fun fact! th-cam.com/video/54VJwwLRJBk/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching!
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I wish i could buy motherboard with 2 or 3 PCIe x8 with Intel 1700 socket.
try to find SuperServer SYS-210P-FRDN6T at a reasonable price...
not sure how that's relevant to this video?