Tape Echo - Fulltone VS Original Echoplex
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2025
- In this video I compare the demonstrate a bunch of settings on a Fulltone SS Tape Echo. I also compare it to an Original Echoplex EP2 and a (a much more affordable) Guyatone EM-66. The EP2 is tube driven and the Fulltone is Solid State (SS) so its not a 100% 1:1 comparison that way. I'm playing the tape echos through a Fender Vibrolux Reverb from 1973 with Gibson Les Paul R9.
Fulltone - 01:26
Echoplex 2 - 07:34
Guyatone EM-66 - 08:59
I have/use the Fulltone Tube Tape Echo and it's incredible. I had played with the idea of getting a vintage EP2/EP3 or maybe a Roland Space Echo until I saw Built to Spill play the Electric Factory as a three piece. Doug Martsch had a TTE on a pedestal next to him and played it like an instrument, the sound and vibe was unreal. That sealed the deal for me and it's worth it. The sound of just what the tubes do to your signal chain (outside of the echo) is worth the price of admission, not to mention the vibe from the repeats. It's well built and tape cartridges are available, even rewind services are relatively inexpensive. I invested in a pelican case to tote it around. I keep another delay pedal on my board as a backup in case the tape breaks during a gig, which hasn't happened yet.
Hands down. Best gear demos on TH-cam. Or anywhere else.
Thanks man, that’s great to hear!
Col Hogaaannnn!!!
Youre right
@@jalaskabtu You're.
Some of Johan's demos are great I didn't think this was one of them
i felt like it was back in the LSD Days and Syd Barrett was orchestrating JOHAN 😊
Hahaha! I wouldn’t mind!
You are taking this gear demo thing to a higher level, and I didn't think it could go any higher than what you already bring! Saludos, Johan!
Thanks my friend!
It's great to start to hear in the tone sounds from all those classic albums and guitarists
Thanks Maurice, I’m glad to hear it
I love the feel good nature of your videos and the comment section. No arguments, insults, nothing. Everyone is cultured and respectful....
Patrik Žarković I know right? I thought I was the only who noticed that before. Cheers man!
Yeah, I’m glad about the comment section. I always looking forward to hearing the feedback
Cheers!
Indeed. JS videos are one of a very rare few channels on TH-cam which is virtually troll and advertisement free! I truly appreciate that aspect of his presentations!
I have noticed that most channels that are tech-oriented are relatively troll free and channels that have to do with celebrities, politics and media are usually full of unpleasantness. Tech channels are usually not focused on the individual making the video, so most of the comments will be related to tips, tricks and advice on the gear being displayed.
Great to hear and see the echoplex; I only heard it used during the early Ace Frehley's solo. Thanks Johan.
EVH used it on almost all the early VH songs to overdrive his amp.
Ah.., the old Echoplex. A friend of mine had a few of those (& all kinds of other 'old' FX, amps, guitars) in the late 80's, when they were un-Cool & cheap as dirt. Strange obsession for a teenage Punk at the time, but he grew up to be quite a successful Vintage Gear dealer. Loved the demo Johan, U always play just the right way to bring out the best in whatever you're testing !!
Thanks Byron! Yeah I don’t dare think about what these cost in the 80s
@@JohanSegeborn
Haha! ..I won't even check current Echoplex prices.. ;)
;-)
I got my 71/72 EP-3 for $600 a few years back. In 85 a dude was trying to sell me one for $350-$500 I think so not too bad for inflation!
Another amazing one. Thanks for brightening my Wednesday Johan!!
Thanks Andy! Have great Wednesday
I ordered one after watching this about 100 times!
👍🇺🇸❤EP2 (EP3 I used 4 many years)......these days I use TC ELECTRONICS GMAJOR (Via effects loop) 4 all my delays & some pitch shifting.
I love the EP2, I can get pretty close on my strymon el cap with the right settings.
all of the three tape echoes sound amazing, each for a different shade: the Ep2 is organig and warm, the Sste is clear and detailed, the Guyatone is dark and atmospheric, but honestly is one of the very rare case in which i would skip " the real thing" and go for a digital replication pedal: tape echo units are very fragile and unreliable, they require constant maintainance and when a problem occurs it' s a nightmare to find it and fix it ( i know something about tape devices).But those sounds are the staple of psychedelic ambient atmospheres! Cheers!
Thanks Vincenzo, yeah I always hesitate to bring out the EP2
Some of the best echoplex ever recorded was Andrew Latimer's work with the band Camel. Made it an extension of his strat.
GPH 2 that band is really interesting, never heard of them- thanx. What trucks/albums do you suggest that really show off the Echoplex tone?
Leave it to Johan to use an echo device properly. Nice work, very good video🎩🎩🎩
Thanks Audrey, glad to hear that!
Awesome demo. Only had several Roland Space & Chorus Echos over the years. Korg SE-300 too. And an obscure Melos Echo Chamber (8-track).
But nothing beats the sound of the orig. (tube) Echoplex. Much more direct & in your face. Maybe one day I will find one...
Thanks!
I had a melos ,but theyre designed for microphones so the guitar signal was too hot for it. my dad had a copicat I remember that being great.in Europe you can pick up dnyacord tapeecho/spring reverb units for about 500 pounds ,but ive never played one- I'd love a space echo but theyre expensive
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The Dynacords are quite good (here in Austria & Germany they were pretty cheap) but soundwise not my thing. Prefered the Japanese stuff more. And got a nealy mint Roland RE-501 for 'round 80 Euro at a fleamarket back in '97....these were the days.... hahahaha!
Living the life I fantasize about my friend
Cheers my friend! I’m a lucky bastard indeed
Hi, Johan!
You know, this is the best echo pedal, I ever heard. Souds from my dream.. Remind me Slash's sounds of 84, and Pink Floyd too.. Les Paul working a little more traditional. Such so nice sound... Mmmmm!!!!! Delicious..
Thank you for the video, that was GREAT. Last time you become more and more better!
See you, bro, keep straight!
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Thanks brother! See you!
You coaxed some pretty iconic phases out there Johan. At 3.00 there's your Rolling Stones Brown Sugar right there! 4.40 & 5.24, that's Pink Floyd The Wall album all over the place. But I think the magic lay not with the echo but in the overdrive section (Ritchie Blackmore).
Yeah the preamp makes the tone simply bigger. Love it
Trippy stuff. I like the Echoplex best then the Guyatone. God bless and rock on brother 😎🎸👍
Thanks brother! :-)
Makes me want to hear "the song remains de same" for 3567 time 😁
Hahaha! Can’t get too much of that one!
That light makes you look menacing! Johan's gonna pistol-whip someone if we don't all sit down and shut up and listen to the tape echo.
Hahaha! Damn right!
Only the best things come in tolex with latches
Hi Johan, nice video. Between the Echoplex and the Fulltone I prefer the Guyatone : ) Soundwise Its like a cross between the first two. Sort of a vintage/modern sound to my ears. I should also note that one the sounds of the Fulltone sounded exactly like my Marshall Ecohead ( a true unknown genm ) and that really made my day. Cheers.
Cool, I’m gonna google the Ecohead right now!
@@JohanSegeborn Cool : )
@@JohanSegeborn Try this one, to me its the best review: th-cam.com/video/d9yRs8rboug/w-d-xo.html
Ecco is my favorite effect, 😎
then MXR Phaser
then Reverb,
then wha
then chorus
Some real "50's Sci Fi" audio capabilities going on! Love it!
Cheers ;-)
Try the EP3 too, kind of different sounding. EVH used it. Maybe JP too. The EP boosts are copying that preamp circuit, so not only do you get the tape echo but also a slight boost effect!
They all have lovely sounds!
Thanks Bengan! :-)
These real tape units sound incrediballs. The slapback tones are particularly amazing. You can get something approaching the long delay sounds with digital recreations, not as good, but in the ballpark. But the digital units can't even approach those slapback tones. I wonder why the difference?
Ooh, really shocked on the lack of clarity on the TTE!
@N1974 Yes, the original EP was cleaner and brighter than the Fulltone. Usually this is the opposite case when comparing old v new!
That’s the SSTE, not the TTE
Hate to be that guy, But Yep, my point is still the same.
you had me at 8:38 🤘
So, is there a digital modeling pedal version of these, and how do they compare? ;-)
Yes, and a few are superb like the Strymon El Capistan and Catalinbread Belle Epoch.
The Belle Epoch Deluxe uses the same analog circuitry as an Echoplex- preamp, record and playback amps, mixer- and just replaces the tape with a digital device. It’s the closet available emulation and not sterile or lifeless whatsoever.
@@hoover728 Agreed, and for a more complete package in 1 pedal, the new Strymon Volante.
Tape Echo is what guitarist like Jimi Hendrix used
Yes but it was done in the studio by his sound engineer on mix down of the tracks, not with an echoplex.
Man, they all sound great, but that Guyatone had a high pitched ringing that really hurts.
How is the availability of those 8track cassettes for the guyatone?
I think it’s standard 8track cassettes.
Hey, tape that headstock 😆
Which has best preamp ?
Mic set up? I hear more room in the right of stereo sounds good
Thanks Sean! The close mic is MD421U5 panned a bit left and the room mic is an C414BXLii panned almost hard right
@@JohanSegeborn classy image
Of course the original got THE sound, but the others sound very well
Thanks Elie
Fantastic recording quality! I never played a real tape echo, but I have a Strymon El Capistan, and I must say that for day-to-day usage, it seems like it produces a very similar sound to what I'm hearing here. I heard very good things about some of the other tape echoes (Belle Epoch springs to mind), but honestly unless you're a total pedal freak I think either does a good enough job.
Thanks Jacob!
I will give the Fulltone SS a thumbs down. The digital re-issue of Roland Space Echo sounds almost identical to its original. The SS is not even remotely close to the warmth and charm of a vintage unit. You might as well buy a generic analog delay pedal IMO. The model called Tube Tape Echo from Fulltone was not that bad. The Echoplex sounds fantastic and the Guyatone is very pleasing as well. Strange that not more people are using those units, they really make the sound come alive. But there aren't many people who use the old Electro Voice microphones for guitar either, and those are cheap, sound totally amazing and turns a modern amp totally into vintageland.
I’m a fan of EV mics, I’m using an PL-6 (550) and an RE-10 which are your favorites?
@@JohanSegeborn The "600" series. 650, 674. 664 ect. The ones you mention are great as well. But the 600 mics are known to have a very unique sound to them, 674 is known as the Jim Morrison mic, because he favored it live. And they are much cheaper then the legendary RE series.
Johan, you should give the T-Rex Replicator a try. Great pedal for less $$$.
Will keep it in mind! Cheers
Looks like a fun toy👍
It is :-D
Video is Awesome!!!
Isn't the Echoplex the one that Hank Marvin uses?
@@notmyrealhandle That ain't cheap, is it?
why did they use 0-25 and 0-35??? as time measurements? seems completely arbitrary 🤔
Ok, I'm digging this pedal ALOT. The fact that SS is on the pedal alone is a reason to buy it.
Why?
@@dryad_92 his initials if you look at his name bro
@@dryad_92 I'm, my name is Scott Synar 😎. SS.
@@luckysynar9539 makes sense :)
Cheers Scott! ;-)
Binson echorec2 with extra rec-head mod beats everything.
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Muito bom!
Obrigada!
Youre the guy!!!!! God bless your talent
I like the Echoplex sound the best. But it's too old!
For a poor man’s tape echo - get 3 head cassettedeck where you can monitor your recorded signal. Fixed echo but you get tape goodness for next to nothing.
That’s a good idea for a video!
Johan Segeborn yes please make that video johan, I would like to see how that works and sounds!
Not exactly pedalboard friendly and there are studio racks cheaper, so a bit of a white elephant... Sounds OK though
First after the live chat xd
Hi Manuel!
Hi Mr Segeborn
Space Music ...........
I’m using echoplex myself but the Fulltone sure is a keeper, but it’s quite expensive
Those low delay times/slap back is perfect for that Jimmy Paige sound
Yeah, instant Jimmy!
Page used an Echoplex EP-3, the real deal, that Fulltone sounds like a cheap echo pedal.
@@Johngonefishin okay let's see your version and I'll do a demo on my channel if you send it to me for free 😁