I was asked about what size this Helicopter is compared to others, so here is a video to show the size comparisons and the flight comparisons, plus a tail rotor failure on the 470. Thanks kindly and happy flying. Dave
Looks like you had a nice day to test fly them both. Didn't see to much wind. Both of them looked good to me. Liked the bigger one the best..That full size chopper looked like a Robinson R 22. Last Saturday I was in the back yard and a Bell, Boeing V-22 Osprey flew over heading North bound toward Air Venture at Oshkosh.
How do you like 470L vs. Fly barred trex’s? I recently acquired an older trex 500 fly barred with everything, and setting it up and hovering it has been like learning all over again. The modern fbl heli’s are just so locked and nimble.
Well I started flying helis over 50 years ago, and they were all flybarred and no gyros. Later came rate gyros for the tail rotor, but all of them flew stable, as they were heavy and nitro powered. Today's gyros help the beginners, but I don't much care for them as they fight what I learned. But my 470 flies well, and for sure there are less parts to break in a crash. Have you seen any of my 1 bladed heli videos? Here is one, you may enjoy. Thanks and fly easy. th-cam.com/video/HLSgvFsZtk0/w-d-xo.html
Yep, I like them both, but for different reasons. The big one is smooth and nimble and the smaller one like a dragon fly, quick and unpredictable; it's called Protean in the insect world. They're like two helicopters used for special ops, Black Hawk and MH-6 Little Bird. It's great to see you fixed tail rotor failure because an out of control heli is as dangerous as a momma bear with cubs..! SemperFi from Bud
Looks like it was setup to fly "pins forward" that would have the BeastX to correct in the opposite way. Even now before every flight I check the swash plate counters any movement I I induce into it. I miss fly-bars sometimes.
Thanks Merl, but as you saw, I think I finally have this Beast x set up right. I think it had a lot to do with the very low gyro rate needed to get a purple light on it from the TX side. But I don't think at the moment, I want to spend another $200 to add to the price of the 470, since it came with the Microbeast X. Thanks much and I'll keep that in mind next time. Happy Flying.
@@NightFlyyer I use to fly the beast on my birds until I put my first ikno2 micro on my fusion180, it was like I was flying a brand new bird. No glitches , no issues at all. I have five birds with ikon2 so and they are the prime time birds. I just wanted one of my addicted pilot friends like myself to see how nice and rock solid these new flybarless units are.
@@NightFlyyer I only put that ," would like to see an 800 scale Airwolf." , because I know you would get a kick out of flying that beast!, and your tutorial on the tweaks would be very insightful. I hope you did not take that comment wrong, or even worse I phrased it in a manner that was misinterpreted by anyone. If so I apologise.
Man! I just LOVE the sound of that T-Rex! It just says, “I’m fast, I’m powerful, and I’m a badass!” You just know that thing can go really fast in forward flight. So powerful, yet graceful at the same time. The 180 is quick and nimble, but it sounds like a mosquito on steroids! 😂 Both are VERY cool, but my heart is with the T-Rex. Nice flying sir, as always, Semper Fi. 👍
So true. It’s pretty knarly for sure. The tail rotor really makes all that noise with the gyro constantly working it. Thanks much and Semper Fi to you as well.
Fantastic Video! As I am trying to fly this same e180 I would like to ask you: If I were only interested in flying the e180 in a normal "relaxed" mode (certainly not 3d) could I just set up the throttle curve and for example leave the pitch curve @ 0 on all points?
The way the stock tx is set up, the gyro switch in 6g is exactly that. It won’t flip or roll over. I fly only in 3 g. When I put in my own tx and Rx, that gyro switch is the same. The Curves are right for that already. Hope that helps.
@@NightFlyyer Thank You for your reply. I understand but theoretically in flight mode 1 (6g how they call it) there are still some values for pitch curve. Could I set those down to0 for example?
@@ioskaioska5166 You have to have a pitch curve or it will not take off. My pitch curve on this is 7,30, 60, 85,95. Its enough to fly fine, and note it is the same for 3d or 6g. In 6g, if you have never flown, this is your best start. But know, it can fly away fast, so you have to fly it and stay oriented. Good luck.
No brown out. My servos would have been locked in failsafe mode if that happens. If you watch the crash in the slow motion, you will see it piroette like 2 times. Something caused that, and the reason I completely reset the Micro BeastX and the Tail rotor Portion of it. It seems like it is okay now. Thanks
@@NightFlyyer I bought the blade 180 fusion and ,,it flys good but worst helicopter I ever had for servos going wonky,, I reset it alot to get it to stop doing crazy stuff .and all my travels are set to 100....,and I only set it up in the forward programming part of the radio and still have that type of trouble..so don't feel alone..I like my m2 so all I got to do is count blinks on the fbl if I want to change something ..small helicopter that flys like a 450 ,,so I got all I need with omp:)
Hey Dave thought it was cool to see you react to the new direct drive helis. Also see you've got the esky 900 still. I bought one but had to get rid of it because I couldnt get a new gear for it. I was super un-stoked about that 👍
Right on. I can't wait for a bigger one.....you know. Sorry about the gear. I totally understand Un-Stoked! Maybe they can be 3D printed these days, who knows. I do still have the 900 and still have and un-built one in the box. I bought a couple after the fire, just in case. They were only $99, bare bones. Anyway that is still one of my old favs. This little 180 is also my fave and it was a hit this past weekend at the Farmers Fun Fly, with a video coming soon. Thanks much.
Wonderful job on both flights like I said before Dave I'm guessing your going to end up flying your Eachine 180 a lot more then your Trex 470 for the wrest of the summer? Mainly because the 180 is smaller and has very flew moving parts to break in a crash when compared to the 470 IMHO.
Nice If you hade to pick any one for a favorite out of the hanger what would it be modern or old school? Starting up again after 30 years have a new old shuttle zx kit I’m finally going to build and learn all over again . Thanks Dave love watching.
I have many old school helis and I like them too, but are getting expensive to fly. I just spent $55 for 1 gallon of 15% plus shipping, so just for ease and $, I seem to be flying more electrics. They are much snappier fliers too. Have you seen one of my Shuttle videos? I like them too. Here is a link to one, you may enjoy. th-cam.com/video/6NyarzPVncc/w-d-xo.html So good luck and happy flying....again. Thanks much.
I was asked about what size this Helicopter is compared to others, so here is a video to show the size comparisons and the flight comparisons, plus a tail rotor failure on the 470. Thanks kindly and happy flying.
Dave
I've been a subscriber for many years and I want to thank you for sharing your knowledge and great love of this great hobby.
You sure have and I really appreciate you. Thanks so kindly.
Looks like you had a nice day to test fly them both. Didn't see to much wind. Both of them looked good to me. Liked the bigger one the best..That full size chopper looked like a Robinson R 22. Last Saturday I was in the back yard and a Bell, Boeing V-22 Osprey flew over heading North bound toward Air Venture at Oshkosh.
I thought is sounded like an R44, but not sure. Love the V-22. That is a real contraption. Thanks Tom.
How do you like 470L vs. Fly barred trex’s? I recently acquired an older trex 500 fly barred with everything, and setting it up and hovering it has been like learning all over again. The modern fbl heli’s are just so locked and nimble.
Well I started flying helis over 50 years ago, and they were all flybarred and no gyros. Later came rate gyros for the tail rotor, but all of them flew stable, as they were heavy and nitro powered. Today's gyros help the beginners, but I don't much care for them as they fight what I learned. But my 470 flies well, and for sure there are less parts to break in a crash. Have you seen any of my 1 bladed heli videos? Here is one, you may enjoy. Thanks and fly easy. th-cam.com/video/HLSgvFsZtk0/w-d-xo.html
Yep, I like them both, but for different reasons. The big one is smooth and nimble and the smaller one like a dragon fly, quick and unpredictable; it's called Protean in the insect world. They're like two helicopters used for special ops, Black Hawk and MH-6 Little Bird. It's great to see you fixed tail rotor failure because an out of control heli is as dangerous as a momma bear with cubs..! SemperFi from Bud
That is a great analogy, Bud. Thanks much and Semper Fi!
Looks like it was setup to fly "pins forward" that would have the BeastX to correct in the opposite way. Even now before every flight I check the swash plate counters any movement I I induce into it. I miss fly-bars sometimes.
My friend please get an Ikon2 . No more flybarless issues, none .
Thanks Merl, but as you saw, I think I finally have this Beast x set up right. I think it had a lot to do with the very low gyro rate needed to get a purple light on it from the TX side. But I don't think at the moment, I want to spend another $200 to add to the price of the 470, since it came with the Microbeast X. Thanks much and I'll keep that in mind next time. Happy Flying.
@@NightFlyyer I use to fly the beast on my birds until I put my first ikno2 micro on my fusion180, it was like I was flying a brand new bird. No glitches , no issues at all. I have five birds with ikon2 so and they are the prime time birds. I just wanted one of my addicted pilot friends like myself to see how nice and rock solid these new flybarless units are.
Okay, I am ready for some great content!! Let's go!!!
I know this was not great, but not bad for a 75 year old. LOL.
@@NightFlyyer Hey every video you do has a lesson in it . So keep up the great work you are leaving a strong legacy for DIYers.
@@NightFlyyer I only put that ," would like to see an 800 scale Airwolf." , because I know you would get a kick out of flying that beast!, and your tutorial on the tweaks would be very insightful. I hope you did not take that comment wrong, or even worse I phrased it in a manner that was misinterpreted by anyone. If so I apologise.
Haha. Not to worry. I knew what you meant. I’d like the big airwolf too. Thanks man!
@@NightFlyyer Wheeeew glad to hear that !! Keep up the content, and thank you @ any age!!!! lol 👍
I love the trex 470. I have two I take to my flying site
Right on. I have 2 of the 180's. LOL
Man! I just LOVE the sound of that T-Rex! It just says, “I’m fast, I’m powerful, and I’m a badass!” You just know that thing can go really fast in forward flight. So powerful, yet graceful at the same time. The 180 is quick and nimble, but it sounds like a mosquito on steroids! 😂 Both are VERY cool, but my heart is with the T-Rex. Nice flying sir, as always, Semper Fi. 👍
So true. It’s pretty knarly for sure. The tail rotor really makes all that noise with the gyro constantly working it. Thanks much and Semper Fi to you as well.
Fantastic Video! As I am trying to fly this same e180 I would like to ask you: If I were only interested in flying the e180 in a normal "relaxed" mode (certainly not 3d) could I just set up the throttle curve and for example leave the pitch curve @ 0 on all points?
The way the stock tx is set up, the gyro switch in 6g is exactly that. It won’t flip or roll over. I fly only in 3 g. When I put in my own tx and Rx, that gyro switch is the same. The Curves are right for that already. Hope that helps.
@@NightFlyyer Thank You for your reply. I understand but theoretically in flight mode 1 (6g how they call it) there are still some values for pitch curve. Could I set those down to0 for example?
@@ioskaioska5166 You have to have a pitch curve or it will not take off. My pitch curve on this is 7,30, 60, 85,95. Its enough to fly fine, and note it is the same for 3d or 6g. In 6g, if you have never flown, this is your best start. But know, it can fly away fast, so you have to fly it and stay oriented. Good luck.
@@NightFlyyer Fantastic! Thank You
I need to repair some of my helicopters I don't fly like I did ..took the m2 out last night ,,looks like you had a brown out
No brown out. My servos would have been locked in failsafe mode if that happens. If you watch the crash in the slow motion, you will see it piroette like 2 times. Something caused that, and the reason I completely reset the Micro BeastX and the Tail rotor Portion of it. It seems like it is okay now. Thanks
@@NightFlyyer I bought the blade 180 fusion and ,,it flys good but worst helicopter I ever had for servos going wonky,, I reset it alot to get it to stop doing crazy stuff .and all my travels are set to 100....,and I only set it up in the forward programming part of the radio and still have that type of trouble..so don't feel alone..I like my m2 so all I got to do is count blinks on the fbl if I want to change something ..small helicopter that flys like a 450 ,,so I got all I need with omp:)
@@jakelang4387 Great. This 180 is quite a bit bigger. Happy flying.
@@NightFlyyer oh ya I'm sure it sounds amazing pumping the pitch on it
Good job with both! Thanks for sharing, thumbs up video ~John
Thanks so much John. I really appreciate you.
Hey Dave thought it was cool to see you react to the new direct drive helis. Also see you've got the esky 900 still. I bought one but had to get rid of it because I couldnt get a new gear for it. I was super un-stoked about that
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Right on. I can't wait for a bigger one.....you know. Sorry about the gear. I totally understand Un-Stoked! Maybe they can be 3D printed these days, who knows. I do still have the 900 and still have and un-built one in the box. I bought a couple after the fire, just in case. They were only $99, bare bones. Anyway that is still one of my old favs. This little 180 is also my fave and it was a hit this past weekend at the Farmers Fun Fly, with a video coming soon. Thanks much.
Wonderful job on both flights like I said before Dave I'm guessing your going to end up flying your Eachine 180 a lot more then your Trex 470 for the wrest of the summer? Mainly because the 180 is smaller and has very flew moving parts to break in a crash when compared to the 470 IMHO.
Yes, and I have more batteries for it than the 470, so for sure. Thank much!
@@NightFlyyer Anytime Dave BTW what size lipos does that Eachine 180 use again 2s or 3s??
@@3DMOFO2020 Yep, it's 11.1. 700mAh 3s
@@NightFlyyer Great👍😁👍
Nice
If you hade to pick any one for a favorite out of the hanger what would it be modern or old school?
Starting up again after 30 years have a new old shuttle zx kit I’m finally going to build and learn all over again .
Thanks Dave love watching.
I have many old school helis and I like them too, but are getting expensive to fly. I just spent $55 for 1 gallon of 15% plus shipping, so just for ease and $, I seem to be flying more electrics. They are much snappier fliers too. Have you seen one of my Shuttle videos? I like them too. Here is a link to one, you may enjoy. th-cam.com/video/6NyarzPVncc/w-d-xo.html So good luck and happy flying....again. Thanks much.
Rapid unexpected disassembly
Perfect description. Thanks.
@@NightFlyyer No sir… thank you for making great content after all these years!!!
Ilea is pretty daring filming you. Do you ever see Jeff? ?
She does a good job for sure. Very rarely do I see Jeff. He hasn’t flown in years.