The Jon Stewart Problem with Kara Danksy
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- I chat to Kara Dansky, a feminist fighting for the sex-based rights of women & girls. Also author of the book, The Abolition of Sex.
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There is no such thing as "trans."
Yeah, it's a subjective and metaphysical claim with no basis in physical reality, based entirely on validating sexist gender stereotypes and contending that feelings are more objective/important than material reality.
Jon Stewart's wife is a veterinarian. When Jon retired from the Daily Show he and his wife bought a small farm in New Jersey for rescued domesticated farm animals. So at the very least he's married to someone who has to have a scientific based understanding the biology of mammals.
interesting, thanks
YOU'D THINK.
@@fruitytea Yes, one would think but as we well know even human doctors are buying into this insanity. All so fetish men can be validated and perform their fetish legally in public forcing everyone to participate. But there's no such thing as patriarchy... uh huh.
So, she is a vet but he doesn't know what a dog is.
He's been great about animal rights - so disappointing that he doesn't understand that women are also animals, human ones, and have their rights too!
(I wrote this before listening to the video...Kara is spot on....he knows.)
The thing that I hate about Jon Stewart-as-fake-TRA is that he's obviously not dumb. He knows exactly what he's doing. He knows who women are, and who men are. He knows history, he understands the basic reality of sex. So the only conclusions from here are either a) he h@tes women, and/or b) even as one of the most famous, wealthy, powerful, privileged white men in the west, he is SCARED, is a little baby, because he doesn't wanna lose views (highly doubt, he'd likely gain viewers) and/or get in hot water and lose everything (probably.... But he'd survive and still be rich). Either way, he's a spineless coward. The absolute worst kind, and if he carries on he WILL go down in history as such. A spineless coward.
Meanwhile, regular, ordinary women are risking everything with nary a platform, or funding, or institutional support--- ALL of which trance activism/men's rights HAS in absolute abundance. Women are risking everything because we're ***already*** losing everything, so of course we have to speak truth to power, until these m0ids learn some damn respect for us and our boundaries.
It's pretty stunning how Jon Stewart was able to miss the ENITRE point.
I mean, he didn't even graze the point, he was literally in another county from the point!
I used to like Jon Stewart’s work. He has no obligation to make me happy, but what a disappointment.
#TeamTERF
Foucault and the French intellectuals of his era wanted to abolish age of consent. The thing is, queer theorists would not have any problem with it. Childhood is seen as another category imposed by society to ",oppress" children. Butler also argues that incest is taboo only because adults want to oppress children. The more boundaries you cross or blur, the more taboos you break, the better and more radically queer you are. I read an article "Reckoning with Foucault's alleged ... abuse of boys in Tunisia" or something like that - from Oct of last year.
That article is on the Al Jazeera website and is by Haythem Guesmi.
@@liberality Take a good look at all of the French cognoscenti who signed the letter advocating for the complete canceling of age of consent in '77. This stuff was far more prevalent in Paris than most non-French speakers would know.
@@mikebott6940 I agree. It was only very recently that the Macron government introduced a basic level of legal protection for children. It is still not illegal for a man in France to have a sexual relationship with an adult daughter.
Thank so much for your straight forward and honest approach to the mental health aspects of dealing with this. The back stabbing has been something to behold! Brighton was the first event for me and boy what an induction. so glad to have found your channel 😊
It was the first event for me and what a good one it was!
Yeah it’s ironic how quick they are to berate anyone with a different view, yet they claim to be oh-so accepting and inclusive.
It is hard to know this stuff..and frustrating to be surrounded by people who will not pull their head out of the sand and acknowledge it.
The narrative that it is interchangeable with the lesbian and gay struggle was very successful. People have believed that for years, and believe it's virtuous to believe it. So it takes a while to get people to challenge their own belief .
Talking of the roots of Gender Identity, New Discourses (James Lindsay) is incredible but a couple of shorter vids to watch are Sydney Watson ‘The Most Disturbing Child Experiment You’ve Never Heard Of” and EDIJester “The Secret Alfred Kinsey Kept”. They leave you wondering how the hell anyone can take Queer Theory (Drag) and Gender Ideology seriously
Thanks for promoting EDI Jester. The Sydney Watson video is good too.
New Discourses have their own theory about it but it's not perfect.
@@Kelsea-im8ob Would you care to expand on the weaknesses of James Lindsay's analysis please? Not to do him down, just to create a better understanding.
@@liberality I'd need to listen to him again to really be able to answer that, but from what I remember their explanations are too simple and biased
@@Kelsea-im8ob My take is that Lindsay is not very knowledgeable about the 1960's counterculture, treating it as a monolith - for example, talking about hippies and neo-Marxists as if they were the same. That might suggest a conservative bias, blaming the 1960's for everything. Also, I find Lindsay comes across as rather aggressive and disdainful for someone who aspires to make an intellectual critique. In his favour, he does appear to read the source material and tries to map out the influences on today's politics, which is a major and probably unrewarding task.
Thanks for a lovely discussion, Birdy. Kara is always interesting to listen to, and I've been enjoying the discussions you've been holding. Keep up the good work 😁
Stewart, Oliver and the rest .
They have all been made offers they cannot refuse.
And they know how important it is to show respect.
Look what happens to those who don't.
Thank you ladies SO MUCH for discussing how it all affects you and how you need to take breaks. I realize I have been beating myself up over nothing 💜
trans baptism - you are canonized into trans sainthood by declaring you are trans
#TeamTERF
48:07 I wish normal people DID know what's up - but it's so revealing, the way women on the street demur from answering the "What is a woman?" question. From normal people, women most of all - just goes to show how successful the PR campaign has been by Stonewall et al. But I think it's movies that have done it, honestly. "Boys Don't Cry" with Hilary Swank, and more recently "The Danish Girl" with Eddie Redmayne which won 4 Oscars! And t* characters are in stuff on Netflix like "Heartstopper" which is HUGELY popular among teen girls.
This use of popular entertainment that takes up LOADS of cultural real estate is what makes women falter when asked "What is a woman?" and falter about attempting to even engage with this issue, because the general public has been conditioned to think "Well, anyone who has any issue with t* and the theory underlying it is a bigot, everyone in these films is a bigot who disagrees with it, and I don't want to be seen as a bigot!"
Also significant - the t* people in these media works are ALL either highly sympathetic females ("Boys don't cry"), or depicted as hyper-effeminate hsts. The characters in the films who attack them or disagree are always bigots. What we're NEVER shown is the AGP (except in serial killer shows like 'Mindhunter' on Netflix, which deals with real-world killers who are AGPs lol) and we are of course never shown characters expressing reasonable objections to gender identity theory or someone wanting to t* themselves. So you will never see a lesbian character, for e.g., looking around in bewilderment and asking "Wait...why are all my lesbian friends now identifying as men?" You absolutely will not see any detrans characters, certainly none who are hostile to the ideology - I predict it will take about 10 years until we see one of those, because the public understanding of all this is so far behind. Movies and TV won't touch it with a barge pole. And movies and TV seem like how the general population changes its views on things.
15:44 I feel for Kara as a leftist myself. I’ve either been with the Australian Greens or kind of flirting with the Labour Party. She’s the opposite. But we’ve all been betrayed.
Stewart was infusing the argument with too much drummed-up anger to ever actually shut up and listen to what others had to say. Maybe he is being held hostage by a child or relative who has succumbed to the trans bullshit OR has a stake in Boston Children's and is losing $. The laugh track with the A.G. of Alabama was completely inappropriate. I was horrified by both Oliver and Stewart -- they were both loud and mocking and delusional.
He may have a family member who is trans and he feels the need to go along. Or he’s a jerk.
#TeamTERF.
Thank you for this wonderful conversation.
Count me in as someone who has committed herself not to vote for ANYONE from the Democratic Party as long as they continue betraying women and children. I have informed several Democratic congress people and senators about my position. If you are reading this, and you live in the US, and you haven't already contacted Democrats to let them know what you think about this mess, I urge you to do it soon. They need to know that there is a price to pay for these shenanigans.
I'm never gonna vote for republitards. Sorry, but abortion rights are more important than keeping transvestites out of women's sports.
@@meowy4720 Use your own compass about what you need to do. Actually, however, it is important to point out that more is at stake than women's sports alone.
@@xitlallicommentstoday2169 I agree that more is at stake than women's sports, but the same is true for the other side. Republicans not only want to criminalize abortion, but they want to ban birth control and make it legal for employers, banks and landlords to discriminate on the basis of sex. They think it's "tyranny" to force people to respect women's civil rights, and have been very open about this.
@@meowy4720 You do you. Both the Republicans and the Democrats are about undermining women's rights, each in their own way. You are not going to convince me otherwise if you can't concede how the Democrats are also undermining women's rights.
@@xitlallicommentstoday2169 I literally did concede that, though. Read my comments again.
I thought it was clear that my point is that the Rs are worse, and you didn't provide any logical reason for why losing athletics is worse than losing...every other gain that feminists have won. If you think the two parties are equally as bad, then why are you promoting the Repubs? you're being disingenuous. Just admit you're biased.
I loved this conversation! Also regarding eunuchs, look up gender nullification surgery. Sadly, it's a thing.
Thank you, I’ve heard about it but don’t know if I can cope with ruining my saturday afternoon on something like that! 😂
26:04 Can’t just quietly tolerate Matt Walsh’s attack on feminism, in spite of agreeing with him that women are adult human females.
I always love to hear Kara speak, she's absolutely brilliant. I just discovered your channel and I'm becoming quite fond of you, too. You're a good voice in this fight and I'm glad you two covered Jon because that was appalling but I guess we all knew it was coming. :/
Two of my favourite women talking about a deranged man. No contest.
49:58 I feel exactly the same trying to slog through James Lindsay's podcasts...it's dense. The critical theorists use obfuscation intentionally, so it's by design that it's so hard to get through. Then when you boil it all down, all they're actually saying is "The 'child' is a construction of society, and so adults should be able to ..." etc. 🤮 Jacob Breslow style.
Watching...kiwi-terf So grateful for the work you do xxx
Thank you ladies
Team Terf 🎉😊
This is not a right-left issue. It is a right-wrong issue.
I watched darkhorses take on jon, and I thought Brett's take was too generous. Jon is too intelligent to take this slant on it and he is just creating propaganda.he sold out
Yup. He's just carrying out marching orders. He's good friends with Dave Chappelle, and defends him.
a vegan here and not into TRAs lol just saying
I’m not sure if I made myself clear that I don’t think all vegans are TRAs!!! There’s just a lot of TRAs who are vegan so my personal experience has been that there’s a cross-over of communities. Also my personal experience has been that there’s a lot of vegans who are nice, sane people sooo #NotAllVegans! 🙃
Sadly, John is proof that one doesn't have to "identify" as an "idiot" - to in fact - "be one."
I'm not sure if I agree with Kara. I think it's totally possible that John Stewart is clueless on this topic because nearly all (if not all) of the major liberal institutions of knowledge production have been captured by ideologues who peddle gender ideology. From the short clip I saw from John Stewart's show, it seemed like his primary argument was an appeal to authority. All of the major medical associations, universities, and liberal media outlets have signed off on this. To someone like John Stewart or John Oliver, this seems like a slam dunk that "science" is on their side. Indeed, there are a mountain of "scientific studies" that ostensibly support the gender ideologues' position. I know a lot of liberals like this who are ensconced in an information bubble that they are either not capable or courageous enough to critically think their way out of.
I also think the idea that science and medicine can be captured is too destabilizing for many liberals to accept. Science is one of the primary mechanisms they use to construct their understanding of the world. Take this away and truth suddenly becomes a lot muddier.
And when the supposed 'science' reinforces male privilege, including the right for a man to define what makes a real woman, it's not hard for a man to believe in. No-one is fighting over whether trans men are real men. Some men don't think other men are real men.
Stephan: Our scientific and medical institutions are captured by financial interests and profit. How they handled Covid was a massive eye opener as well. MRNa vaccines and transgender medicine is extremely profitable. It is hard to face how little we (at least in the USA) can rely on these institutions anymore.
Someone compared the cutting off of healthy breasts to the martyrdom of St. Agatha.
Gender identity is the new "progressive" religion, so that makes sense.
Wow! Unbelievable!
This was terrific! Thank you so much!
Bummer. Still watching, but Kara persuasively dashed all hope I had for Jon’s oblivion. He was a staple in my house as well..
That’s true that ordinary people in America don’t know . My boyfriend is from North Carolina and his friends know nothing about it . His friend ( who’s a lesbian ) didn’t even know the word “ woke “ , she had never heard of it . That shocked me .
sacred caste
"I don't know what I am anymore . . ." Welcome to the club. It all comes down to whether you have an understanding of what human beings will tend to do in large groups . . . if you have a realistic understanding of humans, then you have a better chance of figuring out which public policy is the lesser of two evils (and also, you'll have matured sufficiently to deal with the fact that there are no solutions, only trade-offs).
If you really wanna understand what's happening with both Democrat and Republican political parties (or whatever supposedly represents the "Right" or the "Left" in your country), stop assuming that principles motivate either of side. Political parties are just about tribalism and "winning," and they'll both run over Grandma (or a child), stopping to wipe their bloody shoes on her clothing before dashing forward to grab for the prize, every single time. If you wanna truly make sense of where your own opinions on the age-old questions of which policies are more likely to avoid harming the most people, maybe figure out whether your vision of how good the world could be is "constrained" or "unconstrained," by sampling some of Thomas Sowell's analysis. Either read one of his many books, or maybe check out the podcast that's been going over his best points: The Genius of Thomas Sowell podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-genius-of-thomas-sowell/id1581181836 I promise you, you won't look at the world in quite the same way ever again . . .
Yes, he should be a household name.
He has some reasonable takes on soft science issues, but on hard science issues like climate change, he is clueless.
Capture of Institutions: recommended U-tube video from The Court of the EDI Jester (Barry Wall), 'LGBTQI2SA Infiltration - How and When'.
Also, The Big Picture from James Patrick: 'Who is behind the "Trans" Agenda?', by Jennifer Bilek.
Birdy, call yourself 'Independent' like I do. I will give my views on each issue, independent of left or right leanings.
Is Stewart being paid by the cult to say things that are positive about the trans issue? He really comes across as speaking from a script and is very cringey in what he says. He comes across as dishonest. Sad that he has become so ignorant at this time of his life. This issue is of such major importance that taking a political side shows massive silliness and immaturity. Why are there so many intelligent people in positions of power who just seem to ignore or forget the science - because what they are doing is encouraging and supporting evil? I’ve really enjoyed your discussion.
Hi Birdy, thanks for this video. I'd be happy to fill in some background on the academic side to these theories if that would help.
Tough question about the term terf…. My problem is thaw phrase ‘radical feminist’, as it Carrie’s so much negative baggage for many, and I refuse to call our ideas as radical. They are sane, reasonable and intelligent ideas, as are these presenters.
Sane, reasonable and intelligent ideas are radical.
* refuse to call our ideas radical
Radical doesn't mean not sane, reasonable and intelligent... the Latin def of radical is "the root of...." So radical feminism means, the root (original) of feminism.
@@edricawebb1578 thanks for the correction! I think I was trying to refer to the way that that label is perceived.
I think the problem with suing doctors in America is that your attorney must be able to prove the doctor violated standards of care, but with trans medicine, there are no SOC. I’ve heard of a couple of doctors settling, not for very much, and probably just to save time in court and money on attorneys. So when people talk about future lawsuits, they aren’t being realistic. It’s never going to happen. If doctors were scared, they wouldn’t be doing this.
Candace Jackson Bone, a very qualified attorney with govt experience, is taking cases against doctors. Dr. Stephen B. Levine is doing expert testimony and put up a webpage on it. There is no informed consent, as the risks are not told.
Kara is brilliant and well informed, but her refusal to cooperate with conservatives is troubling. Ancient proverb, "You can't save your a** and your face at the same time"
Great conversation! I hope we'll communicate soon, Birdy! Ute Heggen
I think a lot of the Stewart's 'supporters' might be bots.
His Brother is a Big Player on Wallstreet.
Its true that ordinary people would say Ok when it comes to calling dave daisy but they would say no when dave started asking to get undressed in a womans shower.
56:12 I've been vegan for 30 years and am not in the trans-camp. Young trans-camp people are the ones who desire to be against conservative, right-wing people in every way they can. It just so happens that most paleo-beef-eaters and cattle farmers are right-wing, conservative types. Trans has nothing to do with not eating meat. Please don't lump me in with them. Think about the bigger picture and the motivations that trans people have for also not eating meat.
Jon Stewart's schtick was always to string together out-of-context clips and try to make interview guests appear stupid. I loved him back in the Bush years but maybe I was wrong.
I'm trying to stop using sarcasm and irony because people were taking me literally
What is the mermaid thing? I may want to rethink that for a tat?
Great video! Thank you for talking to Kara Dansky. Re interviews, you’re getting better at letting your guests speak. The Dennis Kavanagh wasn’t in the guest’s favour and this one is.
In fairness, me and Dennis are friends, it was a chat, not an interview.
@@thefamousartistbirdyrose sorry to be critical, that one interview frustrated me a bit. Having said that, I love you and your channel.
Jon Stewart is a disappointment.
Hi, Great interview, thanks. Just had it on while I cooked and ate (steak - no vegans here). I'm one of the too few GC gay men. I've been following this since about 2017 and while I never had a profile to lose as such, I've had a fair few rows about it and still feel as though I have to self-censor with some people, although it does seem to be changing. The part where you both discuss how the details of this issue can get under your skin was actually quite moving.
On the background to it - can I suggest with all due respect to James Lyndsay that he might not be the best person to consult on this because he's frankly a terrible communicator. Apart from that he seems to have gone a bit nuts lately but I won't get into that. I would recommend the book he co-wrote with Helen Pluckrose, 'Cynical Theories'. Helen *is* a good communicator and may have rescued Lyndsay from himself in the writing of that book. It's not exactly an easy book, but the topic is tricky and defies any kind of bite-sizing. They do a good job of making it accessible though.
Also, Andrew Doyle gives Foucault a good bit of attention in 'The New Puritans', which is brilliant. Set aside his position on Brexit and being on GB News, he makes explaining this stuff look effortless, and 'Puritans' is a serious contribution to the conversation.
About Foucault. I have to say I think he'd be turning in his grave at being associated with this garbage and if he was still around he'd be the first to smash it into smithereens. The rumour about his paedophilia has been discredited. Yes, he trod on challenging, even dangerous territory, but he was a revolutionary in his own right and aside of the one discredited account, none of this remotely approached active paedophilia. If you're interested, you can read about this (and get a brief insight into what Foucault actually thought) here: savageminds.substack.com/p/was-foucault-a-paedophile
The chief culprit in propagating gender nonsense via queer theory has to be Judith Butler, who used Foucault's method to produce her own impenetrable garbage. The cross-hairs should be on her for this, perhaps above anyone else because she keeps doubling down on it, and forget about what Jon Stewart *has to know* - Butler quite literally wrote the book(s).
Anyway, you have a new subscriber. I'm off for a walk and then I might tackle your interview with Dennis with a cup of tea.
Thanks again.
Best, L.
I’m in dance education at masters level and want to write critically about Foucault and queer theory because there’s so much of it in the syllabi. Thanks for these resources, any more would be welcome.
@@lewreed1871 Thanks for replying. I don't have Twitter though. Any other channel?
@@jamesgattuso9778 Hi again. I'm afraid I don't have any other channel I can make public, sorry. It's not ideal but I guess we could have a shot at it here. I just wanted to clarify a couple of things so whatever I suggest is actually helpful to you rather than missing the mark. Am I right in guessing you're in the US and you're studying for your masters? If so, I think you should be very careful about criticising Foucault and Queer Theory, especially if there's a lot of it in the syllabi. US academe seems wholly ideologically "captured" by this stuff - it's taken on a religious flavour - and you don't want to sabotage yourself by attacking the sacred cow.
Helen Pluckrose fell foul of this at university when she was doing her masters in English literature, focusing on late medieval and early modern religious writing by and for women. She found she was being flunked because he views weren't in alignment with what was basically a political project which her tutors had bought into.
Anyway, that's just to give you fair warning. Apart from 'Cynical Theories' by Lyndsay and Pluckrose (worthwhile in itself and for the references), Pluckrose has written an essay relevant to what you're after here: areomagazine.com/2017/03/27/how-french-intellectuals-ruined-the-west-postmodernism-and-its-impact-explained/
You might find this useful (ignore the introductory stuff if it seems condescending, he gets into the nitty-gritty pretty quick): th-cam.com/video/9045I_p45XU/w-d-xo.html
If you want to read original Foucault, I would recommend 'Discipline and Punish', and 'The History of Sexuality' vols 1&2. There's also 'The Foucault Reader' edited by Paul Rabinow.
The Butler books you might want are 'Gender Trouble' and 'Bodies that Matter' - particularly the latter. GT is a feminist work, BtM elaborates on GT and is a seminal work in queer theory.
NB. I've just searched 'dance education queer theory' and Google gave me this: academic.oup.com/book/5773 this: www.cambridge.org/core/journals/dance-research-journal/article/abs/rehearsing-heterosexuality-unspoken-truths-in-dance-education/45D618D4AE34C9F6469D805682F39860 and this: medium.com/@sophiemarie540/queer-composition-how-the-body-is-represented-in-the-compositional-process-of-lgbtq-dance-artists-cc73a8bcd78b
I've got to be honest and say this is beyond me! It's impossible for me to know if your tutors are aiming towards "queering" dance education or pulling away from it. My interest in this is mostly political - as in the trans issue, its roots in queer theory and its impacts on society (my only encounter with 'queer dance' might have been going to see Matthew Bourne's Swan Lake years ago in London).
Hope you find this helpful, but I feel like I'm reaching around in the dark. Let me know if there's anything else I can come up with (I'm largely free until Monday). It'd be helpful to know what angle you're taking on the subject (when you say you want to write "critically", it could mean you're for it and are looking to bolster the existing scholarship, or you want to take a sledgehammer to it).
Anyway, hope this is a start.
Best, L.
@@lewreed1871 Hi Lew
I really appreciate your long reply. I will certainly follow up on Pluckrose's ideas. I remember Bourne's Swanlake being staged in London in the 90s and it was fantastic and truly daring. What I'm interested in, though, is the genesis of this gender-identity extremism and why so many books on bodies in dance are written from a feminist view-point. Men have bodies, passions and emotions too. I'm sure the argument is far more nuanced than I yet appreciate, but it seems that men = bad and women = oppressed and blameless in much of the writing I read. This seems to have morphed into the censorious, mad, screeching trans-activism we all keep hearing so much about. In London dance schools in the 90s, we had true diversity and very formidable female teachers and directors galore. No-body thought anything of homosexuality or colour: we were all just dancers. Where did all this grievance-seeking come from? Why is Foucault the be-all and end-all of social critique? How have we got to this stage and how can I, as a dance educator redress the balance somewhat? How can I express my opinion that presenting one's pronouns is an act of dishonesty rather than inclusive courage without fear of censure? That's why I'm interested in this issue. Thanks again for your helpful ideas. I really appreciate that you took the trouble to write to me.
Thanks!
48:55 laws! True
1:47 ME TOO!
emphasis on the "used to"
add Trevor Noah and John Oliver and Stephen Colbert to that "used to" pile
What is a man?
no one wants to hear the answer. They have no stomach for it
There is never a reason to be offended by comics. They are performing on a different level than you and are not to be censored regardless of subject matter. This is art, free speech and entertainment, however objectionable to you personally. If you need material for your podcast, there are many other important issues to explore. Try harder.
Interestingly I have never called for anyone to be censored, and I can talk about and post whatever I want. If you think there are more pressing issues to speak about you should make your own TH-cam channel and talk about those issues yourself. No one is stopping you, just like no one is stopping Jon Stewart.
I’m a vegan since 2013 but women first! 💪
I’ve got no issue with vegans! 💪
"Trans"......the new priest class.
more literal than you might know... Gnosticism is their religion..Its all magickal BS...Trans formational floor magick is OLD. Such ritual DOES elevate the believer to preistesshood status... if they so choose that route, and many, esp in Big Cities, DO.
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Shameful, propaganda, hit piece. Same old tropes. Delivered with an irritating smug arrogance. It was to journalism what Herod was to early years child care.
“Did I mention my book?” 😂
I think the same about Jon Stewart.
Julia Hartley-Brewer used the T word in an interview with Kellie-Jay Keen two weeks ago on Talk TV:
th-cam.com/video/vDvv4Vz9up0/w-d-xo.html
Ms. Dansky, if you want to conserve the traditional understanding that humans are male and female, how are you not a conservative?
Who are you trying to appeal to now by disclaiming conservatives?
In partners car Bluetooth- " what's a birdy rose and who is a shit goblin?!" Haha ! Sorry I borrowed your car .
Birdie, with all due respect, you REALLY need to stop talking over your guests. It feels like every time they start talking, you cut them off.
Nope. This is a conversation not an interview. I’ll talk to people the same way I talk to them in a pub or over a cup of tea.
And us men are still here supporting you women, even if some of you will never let go of the whole all men are the evil patriarchy bollocks - Were men, we aint goin nowhere and we will always stand up for real women and kids.
The problem with Jon Stewart from the Daily Show to the present is that he makes barbed and often profanity laced attacks against Republicans and the U.S. in general then retreats when his targets respond. He runs away saying “I’m just a comedian”. I’m glad you have a channel that discusses the problems caused by JS.
I think Birdy meant that John Stewart used to 'take the piss' out of both sides! 😆
No, not really. He was always biased to the left. It just seems like he was more unbiased because things weren't as insane years ago.
I am so angry about this!
Interesting
@ 56:12 "All the Vegans I've ever known are in the trans camp"
Queerism and Transism have one commonality it is male privilege in abnormal sexual behavior
Two commonalities, if you include telling people what they should think and then denouncing them. Always with the denouncing.
@@liberality
The Truth 💯
I've been vegan for 30 years. I am not in the trans camp. It just so happens that people who are in the trans camp like veganism because it goes against the old-boy, conservative affinity for beef and because most paleo-aficianados are conservative or right-wing. Don't come down on people who don''t eat meat. It has nothing to do with trans.
John Stewart, John Oliver…. List all respect.
You do owe people 'basic respect" no matter what they did, because any -ism is about a class, not the individual, and we don't dehumanize criminals, we just punish them. The problem is, thinking a man is a woman doesn't count as basic respect. But it's difficult to determine what is and isn't, when they're constantly crying wolf. But maybe by basic respect they mean something more basic than what you mean. Thanks for the interview.
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When the producers asked her to platform Julia Beck on the show, of course they want to position themselves as not homophobic because they're the good guys. The producer herself probably isn't homophobic at all either.
Do you really think when American politics is overwhelmingly Republican, they'd tolerate lesbian radical feminists? That's naive.
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I don’t think you are right about Foucault . I think it was another male theorist, a sexologist… will check it up.
There was a rumour raised about Foucault, posthumously, by one person who didn't like him very much. It doesn't seem credible to me. Seems like a smear. The sexologist you're thinking of was probably John Money.
@@lewreed1871 yes , thank you
@@lewreed1871 Michel Foucault argued that it is intolerable to assume that a child is incapable of giving meaningful consent to sexual relations.[4] Foucault also believed consent, as a concept, was a "contractual notion", and that it was not a sufficient measure of whether harm was being conducted [3] Foucault, Sartre, and newspapers such as Libération and Le Monde each defended the idea of sexual relationships with minors.[5] He and other thinkers of the day petitioned govt. on this to change the law. pasted from Wiki
@@sofasrus8081 I'm going to assume you read the whole article you copied that from, and therefore that you understand the context in which that petition was signed (along with about 60 other French intellectuals including Sartre), and say that signing a petition, whose primary purpose was to equalise the age of consent for straight and gay people, is a far cry from having sex with children. Foucault's sexual proclivities are pretty well known. Paedophilia wasn't one of them.
@@lewreed1871 You are factually incorrect, although I can't blame you for repeating the claims of Foucault's defenders, attempting to frame him as a gay rights activist. The sex offenders that Foucault argued on behalf of weren't gay for the most part, as they were generally men who targetted girls. I suggest going back to History of Sexuality and Abnormal, and reading the text of that petition and the other letters sent to the French press at the time. Foucault was well aware that the activity he supported in his work was illegal in both Tunisia and France, and was hardly going to jeopardise his career as an academic by admitting to breaking the law himself. Unless you spent a lot of time with him personally, I don't think you or anyone else is in a position to state definitely what he didn't do when not in the lecture theatre. Having created an amoral framework which supports and validates sex offenders is bad enough.
It's foundations are extremely dodgy I'm surprised these notions have got this far. Having said that I came across one trans/sjw site that had over a million subscribers.
binged og Melrose Place last month and Stewart has the same creepy voice as Mancini. like baby talk but condescending as well. I really hate it lol
Dan Rather was mixed up in JFK assassination.
It was definitely off topic but Kara makes sense when she says vegan and also fish.
I also dont do well with dairy and eggs and i feel best when i dont have meat.
Fish made its way into my diet solely because its easier to make sure you've got omegas, b12, calcium, iron and selenium if you have fish every now and again. You can definitely get all that on a strict vegan diet its jusy easier not to think about if you've for fish.
I'd love to know what you think Jon Stewart is misinformed about, but without any facts or direct quotes it's really hard to take anything you said seriously.
You seem to have missed that Jon Stewart is lying about biological sex.
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is he though? Are you a biologist? What did Stewart say about biological sex? Are you sure he wasn't talking about gender?
Can you define biological sex?
@@bengreen171 Hi Ben, everyone knows what biological sex is, hardly anyone has a coherent definition of “gender”. You seem to be here for some sort of faux-debate, you’ve come to the wrong place because I don’t argue with people who are stupid on purpose.
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gender is the psychological expression of characteristics that closely, but not exclusively, correspond with the normative expression of physical sexual characteristics.
There. That was pretty simple.
I don't know why you would consider my intent to be stupid on purpose and I'm not even sure what a faux debate would even look like.
Maybe a faux debate is when somebody declines to address the points made by the other person, and instead resorts to insults and unjustified assertions.
@@bengreen171 You’re essentially claiming that gender is personality types. If that’s the case then why does anyone need to sterilise themselves or amputate their healthy body parts to fit their personality type? This makes no sense.
kara ive downloaded your book to listen to but id like to buy a paperback to gift no one on ebay is selling it can you point me in a non jeff direction please