Test video for kinetic shotguns: th-cam.com/video/PrV9BLKPxYg/w-d-xo.html Time stamps Test 1 - Finding unload time: 01:25 Test 2 - Reload time calculation: 02:18 Test 3 - Destruction time (point blank): 02:40 Test 4 - Destruction time (100m): 03:47 Live server energy shogun hangar gameplay: 06:32 Test server energy shotgun hangar gameplay: 14:48
Great video and comparison with a honest opinion. All that silver spent only to see thrown away, it’s sad that they( pixonic) can turn around at anytime and obliterate weaponry and robots.
I had 4 shot gun mk1 max but I fell this is good..because shotgun wepins are op and it need to nerf,everyone running onely shotgun wepons because of its its high damage..
@@randeep3470 Shotguns may have needed NERF But could have been done long ago. And we all could have upgraded something else instead. Anyway instead of the Nerf turning shotguns into a shotguns they will Nerf it into the ground turning it into rubbish. In an attempt to try and make people buy the new weapons.
This is a MAJOR game changer. Looks like the energy shotguns weren't hit as hard as the kinetic ones though. This might actually help the Phantom and Loki though because they have a stick n move type gameplay....jump and and blink out.
This is no rebalance. It's a Total NERF. Pixonic took the best weapons in the game and turned them into garbage. If this comes to the live server it destroys a whole class of weapons. Very Sad.
@@bloogibloo9901 I agree those weapons are way over used, with this rebalance it will give the other weapons a chance like scourge, Igniter, when do you ever see those weapons, Hardley
Really Hope Pixonic sees this video. I agree with your suggestion. The energy shotguns need a slight rebalance and it should come in the form of limiting effectiveness of its range.
The nerf basically changes the shotguns from damage potential optimized weapons into burst damage optimized weapons and almost halves their dpm. If this nerf gets through, shotguns will be outperformed by lightning and flame weapons at short range, when they are supposed to be unmatched at close distance. I bought shotguns for their damage potential so I can get the most out of playing well. This change forces players to change their playstyle if they want to keep using their ony weapons. A different approach of changing shotguns would be to increase their bullet spread by 5%, maybe decrease their maximum range to 400m and decrease the effect of the sharpshooter skill to 15%. Those nerfs would be still significant, but would not put shotguns into their grave.
Pixonic I hope you are listening; Here is the fix for the shotgun nerf: Leave the unload/reload mechanics the same. Leave the damage the same. Adjust the shot dispersion such that the weapon is only viable at less then or equal to 100m. Adjust the Effect Accumulation such that above 100m the effect accumulation is negligible. For reference: In real life shotguns loaded with any type of pellet cannot hit a target with any consistently past 50m. Players could still use shotgun weapons to brawl and get inside to do good damage but they sacrifice a great deal of range to fight in this niche. They also would not be able to lock you down practically at all from range but it would work fine under 100m. What this would do is allow players that wish to play this way still have an option but it would be harder to be successful at range or use this strategy on long maps thus it would be balanced. It would give players with weapons that have more range an advantage to counter the meta shotgun builds. Also shotguns “could” still be used to counter Titans but one would have to brave the Arthur & Kid AoE attacks so again there is an element of risk/reward... This would even give older weapons like orkans an edge over shotguns beyond 100m if one plays the range game effectively.
After seeing this it’s not just a nerf, they will become extinct, how can Pixonic believe these constant buffs and nerfs are good for the game, their revenue will be solely from advertising soon as the community will give up and stop spending money, all they need to do is reduce the range from 500 to say 300 or even less and tone down the damage. Tarans will be more effective, that’s providing no one sold them after the nerf. Thanks for the comparison great work!
Hey man, thank you so much for all the effort you put into creating this. I really like your videos. Two things however: 1) can you make a target something that people still run? Gareth is totally obsolete. 2) I think you really need to make the videos so that they take repair into account. Just about everyone is using the pilot repair skills. So in an example like this where it's taking 50 seconds to kill a bot, in the real world that bought would be healing while you were trying to kill it. That totally throws off the numbers.
Full one year i upgraded all shotguns four on leech four on blitz four on ares,playing day and night ,i was 62 kg in weight now i am 54 kg.I worked so hard and now its totally nerfed.Pixonic should know the pain.
I don't know if I shall quit this game or work on new weapons or just stick around with existing weapons as nothing happened 😐 seriously seriously.. 😫😫😫😫
Sorry Aygir if I am getting super annoying but you are my most reliable source. I know it is out of topic but is avenger getting nerfed? Ps the video is awesome. Been watching you for a year and you never dissapoint
Hey my man can you make ma vid about halo and shredder? I want to know which is better yes ik about the nerf on shotguns but I want to know on both weapons and in which scenarios it will shine
Yeah. This is old but they should of maybe reduced clipnsize, not reduced clipmsoze and make the reload onterval horrible. Nowaays i think they should get a clip size buff, only halo and corona. They should have 8 shots before reloading, noy 5 or 6.
This is just not a nerf ,but this is an end to all shotguns i only have all shotguns built,so its like my hanger is dead now..which we prepared tho and half years and still its not mk2
Let's be honest: This change is necessary for the game in this very moment. You don't see anything except energy shotguns. There isn't a weapon class in the game that deserves to be by far the most powerful in the whole game. I will feel more relieved, if the shotguns are garbage instead of they are OP, even if I use many of them.
What they want to change is the run in your face and blast mechs with physcal or energy shotguns. Awful change for the current meta maybe, but balances the game for the other mechs imo.
Its Greedy Pix making more money again, soon another super OP weapon to drain our pockets, it was the orkins and Tarans at one point, then it became Halo and coronas, now its dominance for Cryos....But ppl who run snipers builds and Tank Builds are Laughing their ass off!
Good! RELEASE THIS FIX ASAP! The current meta of leeches and phantoms running kamikaze from one bot to another needs to end! It's time for shotgun users to think strategically for a change.
If they are going to rape the shotguns this bad at least let new weapons be available right away so we can buy them. Glad I changed a leech over to cryo already.
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Test video for kinetic shotguns: th-cam.com/video/PrV9BLKPxYg/w-d-xo.html
Time stamps
Test 1 - Finding unload time: 01:25
Test 2 - Reload time calculation: 02:18
Test 3 - Destruction time (point blank): 02:40
Test 4 - Destruction time (100m): 03:47
Live server energy shogun hangar gameplay: 06:32
Test server energy shotgun hangar gameplay: 14:48
OOOOF
THAT'S GOING TO HURT MY HANGAR
4:42 painful to watch... that delay / tanky brawling bots will have to readjust if they stick with shotguns. Thanks for the footage
What the frick they do to Corona and Halo? Almost twice the time to kill a weak target?
Keep the good work fam 👌
Great video and comparison with a honest opinion. All that silver spent only to see thrown away, it’s sad that they( pixonic) can turn around at anytime and obliterate weaponry and robots.
This is not rebalance .is it nerf...
This is not a nerf, this is a shotgun obliteration.
Now the weapons that I have most in my hangar will soon be useless so many resources, time and effort for nothing :(
I feel your pain.😭
My shotguns 😭😭😭
I had 4 shot gun mk1 max but I fell this is good..because shotgun wepins are op and it need to nerf,everyone running onely shotgun wepons because of its its high damage..
@@randeep3470
Shotguns may have needed NERF But could have been done long ago. And we all could have upgraded something else instead. Anyway instead of the Nerf turning shotguns into a shotguns they will Nerf it into the ground turning it into rubbish. In an attempt to try and make people buy the new weapons.
This is a MAJOR game changer. Looks like the energy shotguns weren't hit as hard as the kinetic ones though.
This might actually help the Phantom and Loki though because they have a stick n move type gameplay....jump and and blink out.
They would only be good on these bots
These bots are some of the only bots in the game that can walk up to you, blast you with the burst and run away
This is no rebalance. It's a Total NERF. Pixonic took the best weapons in the game and turned them into garbage. If this comes to the live server it destroys a whole class of weapons. Very Sad.
About time they got balanced
They’re making them garbage because, they’re gonna add a new set of weapons so people can buy it and use it instead of the ones that were nerfed.
@@huey2261 And then they will nerf those wepons for the next batch.
Honestly im not complaining
Shotgun leeches shotgun phantoms shotgun ares shot gun fenrir ive had enough of getting 3 shotted its rly annoying
@@bloogibloo9901 I agree those weapons are way over used, with this rebalance it will give the other weapons a chance like scourge, Igniter, when do you ever see those weapons, Hardley
Really Hope Pixonic sees this video. I agree with your suggestion. The energy shotguns need a slight rebalance and it should come in the form of limiting effectiveness of its range.
The nerf basically changes the shotguns from damage potential optimized weapons into burst damage optimized weapons and almost halves their dpm.
If this nerf gets through, shotguns will be outperformed by lightning and flame weapons at short range, when they are supposed to be unmatched at close distance.
I bought shotguns for their damage potential so I can get the most out of playing well. This change forces players to change their playstyle if they want to keep using their ony weapons.
A different approach of changing shotguns would be to increase their bullet spread by 5%, maybe decrease their maximum range to 400m and decrease the effect of the sharpshooter skill to 15%. Those nerfs would be still significant, but would not put shotguns into their grave.
Don't merf sharp shooter just increase bullet spread by 15
06:22 background soundtrack goes well with the scene
Thanks for the very informative video. Now I'll go to cry with my brawling hangar 😭😭😭
Pixonic I hope you are listening; Here is the fix for the shotgun nerf:
Leave the unload/reload mechanics the same. Leave the damage the same. Adjust the shot dispersion such that the weapon is only viable at less then or equal to 100m. Adjust the Effect Accumulation such that above 100m the effect accumulation is negligible.
For reference:
In real life shotguns loaded with any type of pellet cannot hit a target with any consistently past 50m.
Players could still use shotgun weapons to brawl and get inside to do good damage but they sacrifice a great deal of range to fight in this niche. They also would not be able to lock you down practically at all from range but it would work fine under 100m.
What this would do is allow players that wish to play this way still have an option but it would be harder to be successful at range or use this strategy on long maps thus it would be balanced. It would give players with weapons that have more range an advantage to counter the meta shotgun builds. Also shotguns “could” still be used to counter Titans but one would have to brave the Arthur & Kid AoE attacks so again there is an element of risk/reward...
This would even give older weapons like orkans an edge over shotguns beyond 100m if one plays the range game effectively.
So the Halo and Corona are basically cr*p now
@@benitocamelastoda2074 i promise i see u everywhere xD
@@benitocamelastoda2074 Yo también te veo en todos lados XD
Time to start upgrading sparks, scourges and flamethrowers to replace my coronas...
After seeing this it’s not just a nerf, they will become extinct, how can Pixonic believe these constant buffs and nerfs are good for the game, their revenue will be solely from advertising soon as the community will give up and stop spending money, all they need to do is reduce the range from 500 to say 300 or even less and tone down the damage. Tarans will be more effective, that’s providing no one sold them after the nerf. Thanks for the comparison great work!
Shooting these at 500 is like trying to shoot a weapon while looking the other way
Glory Ao Jun is honestly my favorite lockdown build. With the yang lee pilot you’re basically an Ao Jun Hunter.
Hey man, thank you so much for all the effort you put into creating this. I really like your videos. Two things however: 1) can you make a target something that people still run? Gareth is totally obsolete. 2) I think you really need to make the videos so that they take repair into account. Just about everyone is using the pilot repair skills. So in an example like this where it's taking 50 seconds to kill a bot, in the real world that bought would be healing while you were trying to kill it. That totally throws off the numbers.
Greetings good video
Exactly my thinking at 6:23 😅😅
Full one year i upgraded all shotguns four on leech four on blitz four on ares,playing day and night ,i was 62 kg in weight now i am 54 kg.I worked so hard and now its totally nerfed.Pixonic should know the pain.
chimon swargiary I fee your pain. Me too. Pixonic is so messed up. They mess with people game but it messes with their lives too.
I don't know if I shall quit this game or work on new weapons or just stick around with existing weapons as nothing happened 😐 seriously seriously.. 😫😫😫😫
That's called real rebalance. Thanks Pixonic, love you.❤
Sorry Aygir if I am getting super annoying but you are my most reliable source. I know it is out of topic but is avenger getting nerfed? Ps the video is awesome. Been watching you for a year and you never dissapoint
Yes
Avenger too? Time to get Ember in my TFalcon, since they will do this to Glory.
Damn
@@moyza_ good luck bro
@@moyza_ no go for viper or reedemer.
storm vs corona,halo vs Gusta, Glory vs tunder
How abou a retest with Mechanic for the sake of curiosity?
Hey my man can you make ma vid about halo and shredder? I want to know which is better yes ik about the nerf on shotguns but I want to know on both weapons and in which scenarios it will shine
Question: are people going to use thunder, storm, and gust from now on?
And Avenger too, is fatality this weapon.
I think halos and coronas should bd reconsidered
Yeah. This is old but they should of maybe reduced clipnsize, not reduced clipmsoze and make the reload onterval horrible. Nowaays i think they should get a clip size buff, only halo and corona. They should have 8 shots before reloading, noy 5 or 6.
The way they nerf shotguns but not aujon and leech and phantom
Please do a rebalanced halo vs shredder because i cant pick what ill use on loki
And also whats the best weapon for t falcon now?
Avenger, followed close by Ember.
Shredder, viper or avenger or reedemer.
in my opinion the medium shotguns did need this nerf but for the light shotguns its a bit overkill
And im thinking of putting them on my leach what a waste..... 💭💭😐😐
thank you
16:56 what music?
Honestly...
I’m liking tarans
So what know we can't kill energy as fast but also we do not lockdown them fast to no that is just not cool
This is just not a nerf ,but this is an end to all shotguns i only have all shotguns built,so its like my hanger is dead now..which we prepared tho and half years and still its not mk2
Is the storm still good?
Should the Feniri equip storm or cornar?
I run storms with Avenger on mine right now but will have to switch. I may give Scourges and Calamity or Tarans and Redeemer.
Another great video. Kind of leaves no doubt how bad this is.
Man you were dealing close to no dmg with halo corona on your phantom to that spectre vortex towards the end of the video.
Let's be honest:
This change is necessary for the game in this very moment. You don't see anything except energy shotguns. There isn't a weapon class in the game that deserves to be by far the most powerful in the whole game. I will feel more relieved, if the shotguns are garbage instead of they are OP, even if I use many of them.
rip shotguns player
What they want to change is the run in your face and blast mechs with physcal or energy shotguns. Awful change for the current meta maybe, but balances the game for the other mechs imo.
Nice comparison by the way dude. These shotgun are fairly powerful though. At least at close range brawler.
so glad i sold my old weapons/bots so i could upgrade shotguns and compete against those SUPER Bots. Face palm
This is insane. All of the resources that went into those weapons and they are now garbage. This is very discouraging.
Wow, pixonic need to learn the part of the word rebalancing is balancing.
My shotguns 😭😭😭
Its Greedy Pix making more money again, soon another super OP weapon to drain our pockets, it was the orkins and Tarans at one point, then it became Halo and coronas, now its dominance for Cryos....But ppl who run snipers builds and Tank Builds are Laughing their ass off!
İt's fcukin big nerf 😡
I hate Pixonic
Good! RELEASE THIS FIX ASAP! The current meta of leeches and phantoms running kamikaze from one bot to another needs to end! It's time for shotgun users to think strategically for a change.
If only we can nerf the creators pf Pix's personal cars make them 50% slower and claim it's for the environment....
This Mechanik might be better, because leeches just walk right into your face. More power at close range would be jmba as f..k.
Like 999999
It s really sad to watch
Это капец😭
Finally🤣
Cucolds
На тесте оружие слабее
Так было всегда
If they are going to rape the shotguns this bad at least let new weapons be available right away so we can buy them. Glad I changed a leech over to cryo already.
For trash at test server
Yeah pretty obvious that the nerfed guns suck. Very fn lame pix
Is the storm still good?
This is insane. All of the resources that went into those weapons and they are now garbage. This is very discouraging.